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2013-05-07 12:27:13 PM  

R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.

i.imgur.com


You do realize that could have come out of Milosevic's mouth about the Bosnian Muslims, right? That you're advocating ethnic cleansing. Is that really what you want to advocate?

 
2013-05-07 12:27:18 PM  

Somacandra: mootmah: Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say that this didn't actually happen. No other news source has this story and JP isn't exactly reliable.

It seems they basing this off of a single tweet by a BBC Persian reporter who is not identified or linked to. That last part could be for his/her protection though. I don't think a single tweet by a journalist is news. It might be Fark, though.


Or CNN.
 
2013-05-07 12:27:22 PM  

BgJonson79: FarkedOver: studs up: Wonder why that is?

Because all Palestinians are terrorists in the eyes of the Israeli government.

Their government is, anyway.  By most countries' definitions.


As is the American (and Israeli) government. By most countries' definitions.

www.humanrightsfirst.org
 
2013-05-07 12:28:02 PM  
The IAF is good, but are they good enough to fly all the way to Tehran, hit the holy of holies of sites and egress without being detected, triggering an "infidel pig-dogs will pay" rant/plea to the international community from leadership ?
 
2013-05-07 12:28:03 PM  

FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.

After their land was taken and their homes bulldozed to make way for illegal settlements.  Yeah fark them.  They should just get on with their life.


you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.
 
2013-05-07 12:28:38 PM  

Stone Meadow: FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: I love Israel more and more every day.

For having an apartheid like government?  That's nice.

[www.sabinabecker.com image 500x446]


Yea, because supporting governments like this has never bit America in the ass.  The situations of the Palestinians definitely should be ignored, I mean, we've always knee-jerk supported Israel on everything else.  Including when they attacked a US Navy Vessel.  Why ever stop?
 
2013-05-07 12:28:41 PM  

namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.


Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?
 
2013-05-07 12:28:51 PM  

namatad: FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.

After their land was taken and their homes bulldozed to make way for illegal settlements.  Yeah fark them.  They should just get on with their life.

you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.


Tsk, tsk, we won it fair and square.
 
2013-05-07 12:29:19 PM  

FarkedOver: studs up: Wonder why that is?

Because all  enough Palestinians are terrorists in the eyes of the Israeli government.


ftfy

Maybe if they quit blowing shiat up, things will open up a bit. It's not like they couldn't use the money being poured into there to do something a little less murderous, like say, a falafel franchise or something.
 
2013-05-07 12:29:32 PM  

FarkedOver: studs up: Wonder why that is?

Because all Palestinians are terrorists in the eyes of the Israeli government.


They do have a reputation for being terrorists.  It goes with the territory that if you're going to blow up everybody around you that they're going to call you terrorists.
 
2013-05-07 12:29:35 PM  

Somacandra: R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.
[i.imgur.com image 468x647]
You do realize that could have come out of Milosevic's mouth about the Bosnian Muslims, right? That you're advocating ethnic cleansing. Is that really what you want to advocate?


You're comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians, which admittedly could be MUCH better, to ethnic cleansing?

Care to elaborate, please?
 
2013-05-07 12:29:39 PM  

BgJonson79: Iranians are Aryan...


Wait.  Quiet.  Zarathrusta's about to speak.
 
2013-05-07 12:30:43 PM  

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: studs up: Wonder why that is?

Because all Palestinians are terrorists in the eyes of the Israeli government.

Their government is, anyway.  By most countries' definitions.

As is the American (and Israeli) government. By most countries' definitions.

[www.humanrightsfirst.org image 250x150]


If you can show me the list where >= 100 countries have officially recognized the USA gov't as a terrorist organization, I'll cede the point.
 
2013-05-07 12:31:19 PM  

namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.


I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.
 
2013-05-07 12:31:40 PM  

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: studs up: Wonder why that is?

Because all Palestinians are terrorists in the eyes of the Israeli government.

Their government is, anyway.  By most countries' definitions.

As is the American (and Israeli) government. By most countries' definitions.

[www.humanrightsfirst.org image 250x150]


See, most Americans are entirely incapable of seeing things from any perspective that might question the total moral superiority of their country and that it is always on the right side of history.  American's just dont understand the significance of something like that.
 
2013-05-07 12:31:51 PM  

FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.

After their land was taken and their homes bulldozed to make way for illegal settlements.  Yeah fark them.  They should just get on with their life.


According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey.  The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST.  The other people have no standing.
 
2013-05-07 12:31:57 PM  

BgJonson79: If you can show me the list where >= 100 countries have officially recognized the USA gov't as a terrorist organization, I'll cede the point.


Really? That's your argument?
 
2013-05-07 12:32:52 PM  

Somacandra: namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.

Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?


Did they place it in a city or did the city grow up around it?
 
2013-05-07 12:33:27 PM  

FarkedOver: R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.

After their land was taken and their homes bulldozed to make way for illegal settlements.  Yeah fark them.  They should just get on with their life.


There was a war, they lost. There was another war, the Israelis won. That guy in the pic was most likely not even borne when that happened, but keep complaining. Maybe strap on a bomb and walk into the town square. That seems like the common answer. Praise your blown up heroes, praise your heroes of 911, praise Allah.
 
2013-05-07 12:33:51 PM  

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: If you can show me the list where >= 100 countries have officially recognized the USA gov't as a terrorist organization, I'll cede the point.

Really? That's your argument?


Yes.  I'm taking the statement I'm responding to literally.  Sophistry works for Sheldon Cooper; it should work for me!
 
2013-05-07 12:34:14 PM  

FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.


Good Luck with that.
 
2013-05-07 12:34:27 PM  

BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.


Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.
 
2013-05-07 12:34:49 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: They do have a reputation for being terrorists. It goes with the territory that if you're going to blow up everybody around you that they're going to call you terrorists


Is this why we say White Males in the USA  have a reputation for being "serial killers",  or  is this that whole crypto-racist "collective punishment" of Brown People in refugee camps thing again?
 
2013-05-07 12:35:22 PM  

Somacandra: R.A.Danny: Yet they obviously think Palestine is too crappy for them. No one is keeping them locked up in Israel, they're not wanted, and yet they stay. I think the right to complain has been waived.
[i.imgur.com image 468x647]
You do realize that could have come out of Milosevic's mouth about the Bosnian Muslims, right? That you're advocating ethnic cleansing. Is that really what you want to advocate?


They're killing more of themselves than anyone else is.
 
2013-05-07 12:35:36 PM  

FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.


Things like that comment are what make people laugh at you.
 
2013-05-07 12:35:41 PM  

studs up: FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.

Good Luck with that.


Thanks.
 
2013-05-07 12:35:48 PM  

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.

Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.


So, stealing is ok?
 
2013-05-07 12:35:55 PM  

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.

Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.


Because Marxist revolutions always go so well and all.
 
2013-05-07 12:35:56 PM  

Somacandra: namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.

Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?


nah, but military targets are military targets no matter how many people live next door.
You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.
 
2013-05-07 12:36:32 PM  

BgJonson79: FarkedOver: BgJonson79: According to a class I took in college, about 85% of the land wasn't owned by Palestinians but absentee landlords in Turkey. The 15% that own land should have it returned, WITH INTEREST. The other people have no standing.

Too bad the land was given away before the Palestinian people had a chance to mount a Marxist revolution against the capitalist land owners.

So, stealing is ok?


If a bunch of Marxists do it, yes.
 
2013-05-07 12:37:09 PM  

FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.


So how are we to separate the people who want to live under different laws from others?
 
2013-05-07 12:37:19 PM  
Well, this mess of a thread escalated quickly and efficiently into another 'Israel sucks/rocks' thread.
 
2013-05-07 12:37:27 PM  

BgJonson79: You're comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians, which admittedly could be MUCH better, to ethnic cleansing?


No, I'm comparing the quote I cited to Slobodan Milosevic's views. I'm asking how this Farker's view is somehow different than Milosevic's view. That was pretty clear.
 
2013-05-07 12:38:15 PM  

BgJonson79: Somacandra: namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.

Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?

Did they place it in a city or did the city grow up around it?


It's Oklahoma City, for god's sake!  And, it's an air force base!

Which do you think came first?  The city or the base?

You have a brain, man.  Clearly.  I mean, you can type out words, so you MUST be able to think and make a deductive leap, right?
 
2013-05-07 12:38:35 PM  

Somacandra: Smeggy Smurf: They do have a reputation for being terrorists. It goes with the territory that if you're going to blow up everybody around you that they're going to call you terrorists

Is this why we say White Males in the USA  have a reputation for being "serial killers",  or  is this that whole crypto-racist "collective punishment" of Brown People in refugee camps thing again?


Didn't one of the most celebrated presidents in the history of the USA do just that?  Why aren't you crapping on FDR?
 
2013-05-07 12:39:18 PM  

BgJonson79: FarkedOver: namatad: you mean like EVERY country in the world?
Let me know when the white people have all left the US/Americas and given it back to the natives. Until then, all countries are theft.

I think borders are criminal. I think calling people "illegal" is farked up.  I'm not that big into nations and countries.

So how are we to separate the people who want to live under different laws from others?


Easy, people who like to live in countries are bad, and we wall them off and put them in ghettos, or just kill them.
 
2013-05-07 12:39:19 PM  

Vodka Zombie: BgJonson79: Somacandra: namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.

Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?

Did they place it in a city or did the city grow up around it?

It's Oklahoma City, for god's sake!  And, it's an air force base!

Which do you think came first?  The city or the base?

You have a brain, man.  Clearly.  I mean, you can type out words, so you MUST be able to think and make a deductive leap, right?


I know nothing about OKC or its history, which is why I asked ;-)
 
2013-05-07 12:39:31 PM  

namatad: Somacandra: namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.

Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?

nah, but military targets are military targets no matter how many people live next door.
You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.


That very statement means you agree with Islam's war on the US, yet you don't think we should be blaming Islam for killing Americans and shouldn't be retaliating.
 
2013-05-07 12:40:28 PM  

Somacandra: BgJonson79: You're comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians, which admittedly could be MUCH better, to ethnic cleansing?

No, I'm comparing the quote I cited to Slobodan Milosevic's views. I'm asking how this Farker's view is somehow different than Milosevic's view. That was pretty clear.


Except... Bibi hasn't been invited to The Hague...
 
2013-05-07 12:40:36 PM  

Vodka Zombie: It's Oklahoma City, for god's sake!  And, it's an air force base!

Which do you think came first?  The city or the base?


farking sim city
you KNOW that that air field was probably a mile out of town when it was first built back in the 1200s.
cities have always grown larger than any planning
 
2013-05-07 12:40:47 PM  

namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.


We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."
 
2013-05-07 12:41:26 PM  

R.A.Danny: namatad: Somacandra: namatad: This is why Iran stores/builds their missiles in a big city. HUMAN SHIELDS are AWESOME SHIELDS.

Is that why Tinker Air Force base is located in the middle of Oklahoma City, or is this selectively criticizing Brown People again?

nah, but military targets are military targets no matter how many people live next door.
You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

That very statement means you agree with Islam's war on the US, yet you don't think we should be blaming Islam for killing Americans and shouldn't be retaliating.


Depends on if the "Islamists" target legit military targets or explicitly target civilians.
 
2013-05-07 12:42:13 PM  

BgJonson79: Depends on if the "Islamists" target legit military targets or explicitly target civilians.


Were the passengers on flight 93 legit military targets?
 
2013-05-07 12:42:27 PM  
Iranians dying make Jew happy.

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www.mediaite.com

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2013-05-07 12:42:38 PM  
Wow, this thread is just....just...f*ck, I don't know.

Is this "Everyone go off your meds week" and I didn't get the memo or something?
 
2013-05-07 12:43:03 PM  

Vodka Zombie: It's Oklahoma City, for god's sake! And, it's an air force base! Which do you think came first? The city or the base?


Urban planning and government policy is rarely that unidirectional, in the USA or elsewhere. Usually these things happen in a dialectical manner.
 
2013-05-07 12:43:23 PM  

R.A.Danny: BgJonson79: Depends on if the "Islamists" target legit military targets or explicitly target civilians.

Were the passengers on flight 93 legit military targets?


I think it's safe to argue "nope" on that one.  But one is terrorism, and one is war.
 
2013-05-07 12:43:27 PM  

Somacandra: namatad: You would THINK that people living in OKC were pretty aware that back in the cold war, they had a giant target on their heads.

We all knew it. But its not like we could do anything about it. And people needed jobs when the oil boom busted in the 80's. Missile and research complexes are built where they are for a variety of reasons, including access to infrastructure and labor delivery. One can't say that just because its next to a city means the govenrment intends to use humans as "shields."


As long as we're calling people out, remember that the US dropped nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
 
2013-05-07 12:43:31 PM  

R.A.Danny: That very statement means you agree with Islam's war on the US, yet you don't think we should be blaming Islam for killing Americans and shouldn't be retaliating.


wait what?
war on the US? sure. Is every city a military target? no ...
can people at war do whatever they want? sure. geneva conventions were written to try to civilize war and have never worked. and to punish the losers after the fact.

on the other hand, 9/11 was a bunch of saudis, led by a saudi, ATTACK IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN!!!

/asymmetric warfare is not pretty
 
2013-05-07 12:43:43 PM  
It appears Operation Jewish Lightning was a success.


/ i keed, I keed
 
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