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(The New York Times)   NY Times' metalhead readers demand precision: "An obituary on Saturday about the guitarist Jeff Hanneman, a founder of the band Slayer, misspelled the name of one of the bands with which Slayer has toured. It is Megadeth, not Megadeath"   (nytimes.com) divider line 26
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2013-05-07 11:50:32 AM
3 votes:
Megadeth was awesome until Dave Mustaine went all Ted Nugent.
2013-05-07 12:54:58 PM
2 votes:

Monster Island: I get your point, but Marty was not the original guitarist. Chris Poland (and a couple others briefly) would like to have a word with you. They had been around for about 8 years and multiple albums before Marty joined up.


Yeah, it's why Rust in Peace is ridiculously more technical than their previous work. Also Dave had just gotten sober and hadn't quite found Jebus yet. RiP is one of my favorite albums of all time... but I'm a guitar nerd. Most folks like the earlier stuff. Countdown on isn't really Megadeth anymore. Some good tunes but it just isn't the same.
2013-05-07 10:50:24 AM
2 votes:
Dude, they were a heavy metal hair band. Like they knew how to spell their name.
2013-05-07 06:46:19 PM
1 votes:

Pocket Ninja: Dude, they were a heavy metal hair band. Like they knew how to spell their name.


snocone: Somebody call a cop, I am being persecuted for obscurity and lack of relevance.



Were? Obscure?

I just saw them live last year (with Lacuna Coil opening), with ridiculously-talented Chris Broderick on lead for their 13th album, appropriately titled Th1rt3en - y'know, the album with the song Sudden Death, which was written specifically by Dave Mustaine to serve as a third of the triple-Megadeth-song ending of the Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock game (the other two being Holy Wars and This Day We Fight, both awesome songs too).  While I prefer to play a real guitar instead of Guitar Hero, apparently the Megadeth ending was very appreciated by gamers: "Megadeth's contributions were in particular well received, with "Sudden Death" being described as one of the hardest songs in the franchise's history."  I do know it's a biatch to play IRL and I can't quite get about half of the solo yet (need moar practice, less job).

Th1rt3en hit #11 on the Billboard Top 200.  Original bassist Dave Ellefson, who was the only constant member apart from Dave Mustaine himself until 2002, and whose opening bass line for Peace Sells is the famous riff used by MTV News all those years, rejoined the band for Th1rteen.  Also, Broderick is even a better guitarist than Marty Friedman IMO (sorry khyberkitsune), so he was great to see live.

It was an epic show at the Orlando Hard Rock Live, except for not getting Tornado of Souls into the setlist.

Megadeth's 14th studio album, Super Collider, is slated for release this year.

/yeah, slightly a fan
//more of a Testament & Trivium fan yet still
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2013-05-07 06:19:41 PM
1 votes:

Bloody William: Megadeth was awesome until Dave Mustaine went all Ted Nugent.


That's not completely true. Dave Mustaine may have gone all Ted Nugent but Megadeth still puts out bad ass metal.
2013-05-07 02:29:49 PM
1 votes:
What a Megadeth may look like.

static.guim.co.uk

/hot link!
2013-05-07 02:24:32 PM
1 votes:

RockofAges: Klom Dark: jbtilley: I'm sure there are several albums I missed out on while I thought metal was done.  Any suggestions of albums worth checking out?  Like in the 1999 - 2009 range.  I'll have to check out the newer Exodus

Have you checked out Nevermore?  (They existed from 1992 to 2011) Very good metal, and no vomit-rock singer either.

Good suggestion. However, the voice is an instrument, and metal has the heaviest distortion of instruments in general. It's not good to be so closed minded, particularly when speaking of extremely aggressive music in which violent delivery is a large portion of the point.

/leave the pig squeals at home, though, please ;)


I've always been more attracted to metal with the duality of violent music overlaid with a powerful, but not vomiting, singer. I have heard way too much excellent metal made unlistenable by a dumass with only one sound in his repertoire which sounds like someone trying to hawk up a loogie.

Don't get me wrong: accenting strong musical parts with some guttural vocal distortion is fine, just gotta apply it where it makes sense and not every word in the song. Otherwise it's the same as how you wouldn't be impressed with a guitar player who used the same effect, all the time.
2013-05-07 02:07:45 PM
1 votes:

jbtilley: I'm sure there are several albums I missed out on while I thought metal was done.  Any suggestions of albums worth checking out?  Like in the 1999 - 2009 range.  I'll have to check out the newer Exodus


Have you checked out Nevermore?  (They existed from 1992 to 2011) Very good metal, and no vomit-rock singer either.
2013-05-07 02:04:33 PM
1 votes:

jbtilley: For a while in the mid to late 90s I thought metal had died.  It seems like metal has been partially resurrected here lately with Death Magnetic, World Painted Blood, and Unto the Locust.  I didn't like Metallica and Slayer's albums leading up to their latest releases but their most recent albums made me feel like things might be getting back on track.

I'm sure there are several albums I missed out on while I thought metal was done.  Any suggestions of albums worth checking out?  Like in the 1999 - 2009 range.  I'll have to check out the newer Exodus albums, the 80s Exodus never really resonated with me.  I've listened to Megadeth's 13 and The System Has Failed.  I do not get the praise for those albums. At. All.


Thrash metal /= metal, that's why you may have been thinking metal had died. It basically split into nu metal and the extreme metal during that time period, with thrash sort of still chugging along but falling back from the pack. Metal has never been more vibrant, IMO, than in the last 10 years. Some amazing shiat is being put out there in the metal community, it's just heavier.

Like I said though, if you want to stick to thrash, try Testament's last two or three albums. They are still amazing.

If you want to move into heavier territory, check the bands I listed earlier in my post.
kab
2013-05-07 01:28:41 PM
1 votes:

HighZoolander: Don't forget Overkill.

/that band has never gotten enough credit


This.   I'd actually put them on the "big random number" list ahead of Exodus.
2013-05-07 12:27:11 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Carn: skullkrusher: kab: Marquis de Sod: Megadeath is the most overrated band since the Beetles

I can't argue this.    I don't see what the appeal is with this band... while they're not quite the blatant sellouts that Metallica became, they seem to be adored by folks for writing pretty... average metal material, with the very occasional 'really good' song here and there.

And why Dave insists on having second guitarists that can play circles around him, yet still insist on doing such a large portion of the solo work, is beyond me.   Oh that's right, it's because of his ego.

I will give him (and everyone else that pulls it off) credit for playing and singing.  That shiat isn't easy.

Megadeth is definitely my least favorite of the Big Five (I include Testament, dammit) but they wrote some pretty kickass stuff back in the day. It's just been almost entirely crap since Rust in Peace

Big 6!  Why does Exodus get no love?  yes I like the remake better than the original.  New Testament is awesome too, rifftastic as shiat.

hehe ok, I'll let Exodus in as well.

Slayer, Metallica, Testament, Exodus, Anthrax, Megadeth in that order

Metallica should be #1 but well... ya know

/I blame Lars as a person and James' sobriety


Don't forget Overkill.

/that band has never gotten enough credit
2013-05-07 12:23:49 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Carn: skullkrusher: kab: Marquis de Sod: Megadeath is the most overrated band since the Beetles

I can't argue this.    I don't see what the appeal is with this band... while they're not quite the blatant sellouts that Metallica became, they seem to be adored by folks for writing pretty... average metal material, with the very occasional 'really good' song here and there.

And why Dave insists on having second guitarists that can play circles around him, yet still insist on doing such a large portion of the solo work, is beyond me.   Oh that's right, it's because of his ego.

I will give him (and everyone else that pulls it off) credit for playing and singing.  That shiat isn't easy.

Megadeth is definitely my least favorite of the Big Five (I include Testament, dammit) but they wrote some pretty kickass stuff back in the day. It's just been almost entirely crap since Rust in Peace

Big 6!  Why does Exodus get no love?  yes I like the remake better than the original.  New Testament is awesome too, rifftastic as shiat.

hehe ok, I'll let Exodus in as well.

Slayer, Metallica, Testament, Exodus, Anthrax, Megadeth in that order

Metallica should be #1 but well... ya know

/I blame Lars as a person and James' sobriety


Personally I'd knock Metallica down to four or maybe even lower due to their absolute lack of production in the last 20+ years.  Death Magnetic was the sixth studio album, and while good, doesn't hold a candle to the music Exodus has put out in the last 9 years or so.  Everything else Metallica has put out in the interim including St Anger is utter shiat imo.  Yeah, first five were amazing, but all the other bands we're talking about have put out really good music since then.  I agree with Lars and James and I'll add in loss of Cliff Burton.  I don't think they ever could replace what he brought to the band musically.
2013-05-07 12:05:44 PM
1 votes:
Slayer has some good songs and so does Megadeth.
I listen to them, but they certainly aren't the best bands out there. They are average.
2013-05-07 12:04:31 PM
1 votes:

kab: Marquis de Sod: Megadeath is the most overrated band since the Beetles

I can't argue this.    I don't see what the appeal is with this band... while they're not quite the blatant sellouts that Metallica became, they seem to be adored by folks for writing pretty... average metal material, with the very occasional 'really good' song here and there.

And why Dave insists on having second guitarists that can play circles around him, yet still insist on doing such a large portion of the solo work, is beyond me.   Oh that's right, it's because of his ego.

I will give him (and everyone else that pulls it off) credit for playing and singing.  That shiat isn't easy.


Megadeth is definitely my least favorite of the Big Five (I include Testament, dammit) but they wrote some pretty kickass stuff back in the day. It's just been almost entirely crap since Rust in Peace
2013-05-07 12:03:37 PM
1 votes:
Funny thing about that: there once was a band named Megadeath. They sued Megadeth over the name--they got there first, and had the rejection letters to prove it!

Megadeth paid them to go away. So no Megadeath v. Megadeth trial saga.
2013-05-07 11:49:11 AM
1 votes:
I'm rather surprised at the attention this is getting. I even overheard a couple of the 50-something year olds in my office going, "DId you hear the guitarist from Slayer died?" I remember when Layne Staley died there was barely a peep, and he was the frontman of a band that was probably as popular if not more so overall.
2013-05-07 11:45:54 AM
1 votes:
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2013-05-07 11:45:20 AM
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: I'm a huge heavy metal fan and have been since I was a kid but I could just never get into Slayer. The riffs were awesome, but god how I hate the vocals. It's just like they say words in an angry fashion, it just never did it for me.

/I know I'm that guy


it varies from album to album. Reign in Blood was very raw but also gave birth to one of the greatest metal riffs of all time in Raining Blood. So good, in fact, that they just slowed it down and made it the riff for South of Heaven as well.

SoH and Seasons in the Abyss are a lot more accessible I think. If you haven't tried either of those, I highly recommend them.
Build up the Slayer tolerance and then try the earlier stuff and the heavier later stuff. Just avoid Divine Intervention cuz that album sucks
2013-05-07 11:34:31 AM
1 votes:
I'm a huge heavy metal fan and have been since I was a kid but I could just never get into Slayer. The riffs were awesome, but god how I hate the vocals. It's just like they say words in an angry fashion, it just never did it for me.

/I know I'm that guy
2013-05-07 11:26:14 AM
1 votes:
I am sorry but Hanneman was not special in any way, shape or form. To his family yeah, but even to metalheads, he was just a serviceable guy with marginal talent.
2013-05-07 11:24:42 AM
1 votes:

bungle_jr: Nabb1: moothemagiccow: that's a pretty big oversight

Yeah, I have to agree with that.  I saw a triple-bill of Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer with Alice and Chains opening years ago.  My ears rang for days after the Slayer set.  Great night, though.


so 4 bands = triple bill?


Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer shared top billing equally.  They listed Alice in Chains as a "special guest."  Alice in Chains played for just over half an hour, everyone else played at least an hour.
2013-05-07 11:23:21 AM
1 votes:
At least they spelled Hanneman's name properly. The National Post front page had his name as "Hannerman". If you are going to do a story about someone, especially the last story about them, get their farking name right.
2013-05-07 11:23:11 AM
1 votes:

snocone: Somebody call a cop, I am being persecuted for obscurity and lack of relevance.


50,000,000 records sold with 6 consecutive albums going at least platinum = "obscurity"
2013-05-07 11:16:43 AM
1 votes:
Megaderp.
2013-05-07 10:53:24 AM
1 votes:

moothemagiccow: that's a pretty big oversight


Yeah, I have to agree with that.  I saw a triple-bill of Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer with Alice and Chains opening years ago.  My ears rang for days after the Slayer set.  Great night, though.
2013-05-07 10:27:57 AM
1 votes:
that's a pretty big oversight
 
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