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(The New York Times)   NY Times' metalhead readers demand precision: "An obituary on Saturday about the guitarist Jeff Hanneman, a founder of the band Slayer, misspelled the name of one of the bands with which Slayer has toured. It is Megadeth, not Megadeath"   (nytimes.com) divider line 194
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2013-05-07 03:11:00 PM

genepool lifeboat: Carn: genepool lifeboat: Carn: Municipal Waste - The Art of Partying

I love that these guys get recognized often.  Their drummer is an old friend of mine and one of the coolest guys on the planet.

First song I heard was "Thrashin of the Christ" and I knew I was gonna like them.  I keep wanting to see them live but we always end up missing the shows they are in.  They're based in Richmond aren't they?  They're up this way fairly often in NoVA.

Yep, they're from Richmond (Dave was originally from Red Bank, NJ)  I met him when he was still playing in Human Remains and they'd play in all our basements (do they still have basement shows?) up here in WNY.
MW is godly.


viewaskew.com
 
2013-05-07 03:13:36 PM

genepool lifeboat: Carn: genepool lifeboat: Carn: Municipal Waste - The Art of Partying

I love that these guys get recognized often.  Their drummer is an old friend of mine and one of the coolest guys on the planet.

First song I heard was "Thrashin of the Christ" and I knew I was gonna like them.  I keep wanting to see them live but we always end up missing the shows they are in.  They're based in Richmond aren't they?  They're up this way fairly often in NoVA.

Yep, they're from Richmond (Dave was originally from Red Bank, NJ)  I met him when he was still playing in Human Remains and they'd play in all our basements (do they still have basement shows?) up here in WNY.
MW is godly.


I dunno but if they do that would be awesome.  I hear Richmond has a way more awesome metal scene than we do up here.
 
2013-05-07 03:16:11 PM

Carn: ChewbaccaJones: Good stuff.  I would add:

Opeth - Blackwater Park
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Opeth - Watershed
Devin Townsend - Deconstruction
Devin Townsend - Addicted
Amon Amarth - Versus the World
Cynic - Traced In Air
Meshuggah - Obzen
The Faceless - Planetary Duality
Avenged Sevenfold - Nightmare
Cynic - Traced In Air
Gojira - L'Enfant Sauvage
Septic Flesh - The Great Mass

I can't believe I forgot Amon Amarth!!  Fate of Norns - Pursuit of Vikings.  I don't know if there's a category but best viking metal song ever.  Never heard much Opeth, need to check some out.


Opeth is my absolute favorite.  Those three I listed (in order) are three of the best metal albums I have heard in the past 20 years.  On my playlist constantly.
 
2013-05-07 03:23:23 PM

4NTLRZ: Marquis de Sod: Megadeath is the most overrated band since the Beetles

Who the hell are the Beetles?


They were the inspiration for the Monkeys
 
2013-05-07 03:23:27 PM

ChewbaccaJones: Carn: jbtilley: For a while in the mid to late 90s I thought metal had died.  It seems like metal has been partially resurrected here lately with Death Magnetic, World Painted Blood, and Unto the Locust.  I didn't like Metallica and Slayer's albums leading up to their latest releases but their most recent albums made me feel like things might be getting back on track.

I'm sure there are several albums I missed out on while I thought metal was done.  Any suggestions of albums worth checking out?  Like in the 1999 - 2009 range.  I'll have to check out the newer Exodus albums, the 80s Exodus never really resonated with me.  I've listened to Megadeth's 13 and The System Has Failed.  I do not get the praise for those albums. At. All.

Thrash:
God Hates us All by Slayer (2001)?  Bad ass.
Machinehead - The Blackening.  Also bad ass.
Megadeth - Endgame was way better than the ones you mentioned and their best recent one imo.
Iced Earth - Something Wicked This Way Comes.  I have a lot of their stuff and don't love all of it but this album is badass.   Disciples of the Lie !!!
Death Angel - Relentless Retribution, Killing Season, Art of Dying.   I Choose the Sky
A Perfect Murder - Strength Through Vengeance
Speed Kill Hate - Acts of Insanity
Dew Scented - Issue VI, Invocation
Evile - Infected Naions, Five Serpents Teeth
Kreator - Enemy of God, Hordes of Chaos.   Destroy What Destroys You
Austrian Death Machine - Total Brutal.  Joke album.  Hilarious and awesome.
Municipal Waste - The Art of Partying

Thrash/death/extreme/other:
Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn, Ashes of the Wake, Sacrament.  They  are more death/extreme but awesome if you're into that.
Symphony X - Paradise Lost.  Prog not thrash but I love this album.
Kataklysm - Poetry of War, Serenity in Fire, In the Arms of Devastation.  It's extreme thrash death so if you're new to it start with Serenity in Fire... As I Slither
DevilDriver - self titled
Grimfist - Ten Steps to Hell, Ghouls of Grandeur.  You wanna hear ...


More Thrash:
Gama Bomb - Citizen Brain (ok, all their albums but that one's the best)
Evile - Enter the Grave (ok, I see their other stuff listed above, but that one's my favorite)
Bonded by Blood - Feed the Beast (remake of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme song, just sayin')
 
2013-05-07 03:32:02 PM
Tankard - Freibier is all kinds of fun, and I don't even speak German
 
kab
2013-05-07 04:30:11 PM

RockofAges: Just passed on an Opeth / Katatonia show in my city. Feel bad about that, but too many factors came up. I did manage to catch Children of Bodom at the same venue last summer and that was WILD. Opeth is a great band, but I was honestly a bit more intrigued to see Katatonia.


They just played near me last week, along with the Steve Wilson for the evening.   Katatonia has sounded better IMO (poor mix and the singer wasn't particularly great that night), and Opeth played a really short set (especially as they were the headliners), but did a great acoustic version of DotF.   Wilson simply schooled everyone though... his band is absurdly good.
 
2013-05-07 04:55:26 PM
Dang it, what happened to this thread? It was just getting going, then puked out... :(

// Imagining the noise that the Millenium Falcon makes when it's hyperdrive is disabled...
 
2013-05-07 06:01:58 PM

optimus_grime: i hope the westboro baptist church pickets hanneman's funeral soooooooooo much.

it be just beautiful to see metalheads stomping on them... it's what everyone wants but is too scared to do... the world would love us forever :)


Assuming that WBC actually bothers to show up instead of just 'shopping themselves in, do you really think Megadeth fans will do what Dio's fans didn't?
 
2013-05-07 06:03:39 PM

here to help: durbnpoisn: No way was I implying that Dave should join. That would be a disaster. For one thing, Mustaine must ALWAYS be in control, and he won't get that with Slayer. I was just pointing out that Kerry played with Megadeth. So getting their name mispelled in an article about Slayer (where they really shouldn't have been mentioned anyway, probably pissed Kerry off...

Slayer already has it in the works for at least a touring guitarist anyway. Hannamen hasn't been able to play due to that spider bite for like 3 years. And they are still touring...

Yeah, wasn't sure what you meant. I'd like to hear some of the King Megadeth stuff though. Seems to me he could add the early grit to the more technical stuff. That was one problem with Friedman. He was great but he was TOO clean. Early MD was a very gritty band and that's what made them so appealing to so many.

It's also why Slayer is so awesome. It's complex but nasty. No fancy froos could pull that sh*t off.

\m/


We will never hear of the King/Megadeth thing unless someone has a bootleg from like '84.  He wasn't with them for very long.  But yeah, despite how fast those dudes can play (and I know, because I've covered music from both bands at one time or other), it's a different style of playing.

For the record I like both.  Freedman is a GREAT lead player.  Very clean, and rather flawless - plus, he holds the pick upside down, which I can relate to.  King on the other hand is just a shredder.  And he loves the hell out of that tremlo!!

Oddly enough, Hannamen was actually a cleaner player than King, though very similar, but somehow seemed to take a slight backseat because King is more theatrical.

In terms of really excellent players out there today, you gotta look at Revocation.  Even if all of their stuff isn't stellar, David Davidson can kill it with leads, and rhythms both - old school and new school.
There are actually a lot of guys out there like that nowadays.  I just think he's the most impressive.  Plus, he has the greatest name and facial expressions of all time.
 
2013-05-07 06:19:41 PM

Bloody William: Megadeth was awesome until Dave Mustaine went all Ted Nugent.


That's not completely true. Dave Mustaine may have gone all Ted Nugent but Megadeth still puts out bad ass metal.
 
2013-05-07 06:21:47 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: optimus_grime: i hope the westboro baptist church pickets hanneman's funeral soooooooooo much.

it be just beautiful to see metalheads stomping on them... it's what everyone wants but is too scared to do... the world would love us forever :)

Assuming that WBC actually bothers to show up instead of just 'shopping themselves in, do you really think Megadeth Slayer fans will do what Dio's fans didn't?


Yes.

Megadeth fans and Slayer fans are different animals.  Anyone who was on the field at Big4 at Yankee stadium can attest to that.
 
2013-05-07 06:23:52 PM

khyberkitsune: kab: And why Dave insists on having second guitarists that can play circles around him, yet still insist on doing such a large portion of the solo work, is beyond me. Oh that's right, it's because of his ego.

And you just proved you know jack about music, let alone the band you're trying to cut down.

Originally, Marty did all the solo work with Dave playing harmonizing backup, excepting a few songs.

No other guitarist in Megadeth since can even get CLOSE to Friedman, so Dave has to do all the work.


Chris Drover is pretty damn good. I've seen them live with him 3-4 times and he is awesome. Friedman was the man though. And even though Mustaine isn't the lead guitarist I think it's cool that he plays a few here and there anyways. So many songs with dueling solos, bad ass.
 
2013-05-07 06:25:06 PM

Carn: Austrian Death Machine - Total Brutal.  Joke album.  Hilarious and awesome.




GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
 
2013-05-07 06:31:50 PM

fuzzy dunlop: Megadeth fans and Slayer fans are different animals. Anyone who was on the field at Big4 at Yankee stadium can attest to that.


"Those guys should be careful this time, the Gays Soldiers Marines Dio fans Slayer fans Megadeth fans won't put up with their shiat." Yep, this'll be the crowd that will curb stomp them. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
2013-05-07 06:46:19 PM

Pocket Ninja: Dude, they were a heavy metal hair band. Like they knew how to spell their name.


snocone: Somebody call a cop, I am being persecuted for obscurity and lack of relevance.



Were? Obscure?

I just saw them live last year (with Lacuna Coil opening), with ridiculously-talented Chris Broderick on lead for their 13th album, appropriately titled Th1rt3en - y'know, the album with the song Sudden Death, which was written specifically by Dave Mustaine to serve as a third of the triple-Megadeth-song ending of the Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock game (the other two being Holy Wars and This Day We Fight, both awesome songs too).  While I prefer to play a real guitar instead of Guitar Hero, apparently the Megadeth ending was very appreciated by gamers: "Megadeth's contributions were in particular well received, with "Sudden Death" being described as one of the hardest songs in the franchise's history."  I do know it's a biatch to play IRL and I can't quite get about half of the solo yet (need moar practice, less job).

Th1rt3en hit #11 on the Billboard Top 200.  Original bassist Dave Ellefson, who was the only constant member apart from Dave Mustaine himself until 2002, and whose opening bass line for Peace Sells is the famous riff used by MTV News all those years, rejoined the band for Th1rteen.  Also, Broderick is even a better guitarist than Marty Friedman IMO (sorry khyberkitsune), so he was great to see live.

It was an epic show at the Orlando Hard Rock Live, except for not getting Tornado of Souls into the setlist.

Megadeth's 14th studio album, Super Collider, is slated for release this year.

/yeah, slightly a fan
//more of a Testament & Trivium fan yet still
cyberarmyforums.megadeth.com
 
2013-05-07 06:54:41 PM
At first glace I read that as "NY Times'  meathead readers..."

/Still works
 
2013-05-07 06:55:04 PM

What the hell was that: khyberkitsune: kab: And why Dave insists on having second guitarists that can play circles around him, yet still insist on doing such a large portion of the solo work, is beyond me. Oh that's right, it's because of his ego.

And you just proved you know jack about music, let alone the band you're trying to cut down.

Originally, Marty did all the solo work with Dave playing harmonizing backup, excepting a few songs.

No other guitarist in Megadeth since can even get CLOSE to Friedman, so Dave has to do all the work.

Chris Drover Broderick is pretty damn good. I've seen them live with him 3-4 times and he is awesome. Friedman was the man though. And even though Mustaine isn't the lead guitarist I think it's cool that he plays a few here and there anyways. So many songs with dueling solos, bad ass.


/You know who I meant
 
2013-05-07 07:04:41 PM
They've only been around for 30 years. Anyone could have made that mistake, right?
 
2013-05-07 08:17:27 PM

RockofAges: Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate clean vocals, but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point.


Cookie monster vocals all sound the same.  Even old ST stuff at auctioneer speed you could eventually make out the lyrics with a lyric sheet.
 
2013-05-07 08:26:48 PM

Cyclonic Cooking Action: RockofAges: Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate clean vocals, but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point.

Cookie monster vocals all sound the same.  Even old ST stuff at auctioneer speed you could eventually make out the lyrics with a lyric sheet.


You get used to harsh vocals after a while, and for many of them (Death, for example) you don't really need a lyric sheet. Of course, some you can't make out even with a lyric sheet, and there is a famous story of a singer who lost his lyric sheet, and couldn't remember or make out the lyrics from the recording, so the band could no longer perform the song live in case any of the fans had been able to make out any of the words from the recorded version of the song.

But what I'm saying is that they don't all sound the same.
 
2013-05-07 08:59:01 PM

RockofAges: but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point. I'm sure that the early thrash screams sounded like nails on a chalkboard to those who preferred The Beatles or Elvis Presley, too.


Those thrash screams are nails on a chalkboard to me too.  And yodeling, gangster rapping, thick country drawls, and throat singing.
 
KIA
2013-05-07 09:23:58 PM

12349876: Those thrash screams are nails on a chalkboard to me too. And yodeling, gangster rapping, thick country drawls, and throat singing.


On the other hand, last weekend's M3 Concert was staggeringly cool.  Been waiting years to see W.A.S.P. live in the US along with Jackyl, Kix, Korrupt, Loudness, etc.
 
2013-05-07 09:24:11 PM

RockofAges: Cyclonic Cooking Action: RockofAges: Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate clean vocals, but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point.

Cookie monster vocals all sound the same.  Even old ST stuff at auctioneer speed you could eventually make out the lyrics with a lyric sheet.

A brush far too broad.


There are screamed vocals done right (New Testament, for example) and then there's Cradle of Filth.
 
2013-05-07 09:30:00 PM

12349876: RockofAges: but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point. I'm sure that the early thrash screams sounded like nails on a chalkboard to those who preferred The Beatles or Elvis Presley, too.

Those thrash screams are nails on a chalkboard to me too.  And yodeling, gangster rapping, thick country drawls, and throat singing.


So you don't like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdxKFsJB6E

/one of my favorite albums from the 80s
//it's pretty screamy
 
2013-05-07 09:34:58 PM
and more on topic, I'd be remiss not to mention my favorite thrash screamer of all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcTaQoaaJ7E

/Antichrist
//to each their own
 
2013-05-07 10:12:03 PM

HighZoolander: 12349876: RockofAges: but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point. I'm sure that the early thrash screams sounded like nails on a chalkboard to those who preferred The Beatles or Elvis Presley, too.

Those thrash screams are nails on a chalkboard to me too.  And yodeling, gangster rapping, thick country drawls, and throat singing.

So you don't like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdxKFsJB6E

/one of my favorite albums from the 80s
//it's pretty screamy


Both of your examples are a bit on the light side when it comes to screaming.  Not much at all during the verses.  I give those a tolerable rating.  Maybe in a "fark it all" mood I'd really get into it.

Here was something random I found from an anthology site that I use to browse mostly progressive and symphonic metal that I tend to think in the direction of when it comes to modern thrash metal.

Sodom - Splitting the Atom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uq_nTUqEcg

And I can take some of the harsher vocals in very limited doses, especially when saved for true moments of aggression and not 45 minutes straight.  I can tolerate the heavy Dream Theater stuff and think the moments of not quite clean in Nightwish's Imaginaerum are spot on perfect.
 
2013-05-07 10:36:42 PM

12349876: RockofAges: but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point. I'm sure that the early thrash screams sounded like nails on a chalkboard to those who preferred The Beatles or Elvis Presley, too.

Those thrash screams are nails on a chalkboard to me too.  And yodeling, gangster rapping, thick country drawls, and throat singing.


Truth. Preach it. In Am. Give me all the thrash, but random screaming, growling etc in death/black is farking dumb.
 
2013-05-07 10:48:22 PM
Hell yes this a bookmark.
 
2013-05-07 10:48:29 PM
Carn:
Dew Scented - Issue VI, Invocation

"Bitter Conflict" is my favorite song of theirs, off of Inwards. Makes me want to break everything
 
2013-05-07 11:01:10 PM

12349876: HighZoolander: 12349876: RockofAges: but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point. I'm sure that the early thrash screams sounded like nails on a chalkboard to those who preferred The Beatles or Elvis Presley, too.

Those thrash screams are nails on a chalkboard to me too.  And yodeling, gangster rapping, thick country drawls, and throat singing.

So you don't like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdxKFsJB6E

/one of my favorite albums from the 80s
//it's pretty screamy

Both of your examples are a bit on the light side when it comes to screaming.  Not much at all during the verses.  I give those a tolerable rating.  Maybe in a "fark it all" mood I'd really get into it.

Here was something random I found from an anthology site that I use to browse mostly progressive and symphonic metal that I tend to think in the direction of when it comes to modern thrash metal.

Sodom - Splitting the Atom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uq_nTUqEcg

And I can take some of the harsher vocals in very limited doses, especially when saved for true moments of aggression and not 45 minutes straight.  I can tolerate the heavy Dream Theater stuff and think the moments of not quite clean in Nightwish's Imaginaerum are spot on perfect.


Ah, I see where you're coming from. I interpret screaming to be the high-pitched stuff, like wanna-be King Diamond-high. That kind of mid-pitched black metal rasp in the Sodom song is pretty popular these days in blackened thrash bands - you may or may not like these?

Desaster-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsvRMRD9_X0

Mongrel's Cross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G8byTyHR5w
 
2013-05-07 11:17:55 PM

Bobo D Monkey: 12349876: RockofAges: but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point. I'm sure that the early thrash screams sounded like nails on a chalkboard to those who preferred The Beatles or Elvis Presley, too.

Those thrash screams are nails on a chalkboard to me too.  And yodeling, gangster rapping, thick country drawls, and throat singing.

Truth. Preach it. In Am. Give me all the thrash, but random screaming, growling etc in death/black is farking dumb.


screaming has its place. We talked earlier about the greatness that was Overkill earlier in the thread. Bobby Blitz was pretty well known for his awesome metal screams. They just weren't constant and that's what made it good.
 
2013-05-07 11:52:21 PM

Bloody William: Megadeth was awesome until Dave Mustaine went all Ted Nugent.


Maybe it was a deliberate misspelling rather than a typo considering that Dave has turned into something like a cross between Ted Nugent and Ned Flanders. It would be a sign of respect to avoid associating Slayer with a musician who endorsed Rick Santorum last year.
 
2013-05-07 11:52:48 PM

HighZoolander: Desaster-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsvRMRD9_X0

Mongrel's Cross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G8byTyHR5w


Those would be right out.

I mainly stick to stuff that's compelling and intricate, epic and challenging, heavy and soft, not afraid to throw in some curveballs, so mainly modern classical and depending on who you ask progressive rock/metal.  I wouldn't consider myself a headbanger but I'm not afraid of the heavy and really like it in limited doses without losing melody and traditional singing.  Here's an example of just about as heavy as you can get at times with djent but great atmospheric and jazz influences and really strong sense of melody and high register clean vocals that I really like. http://aviations.bandcamp.com/
 
2013-05-08 12:08:04 AM
If only Megadeth were still good and relevant.
 
2013-05-08 12:35:08 AM

12349876: HighZoolander: Desaster-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsvRMRD9_X0

Mongrel's Cross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G8byTyHR5w

Those would be right out.

I mainly stick to stuff that's compelling and intricate, epic and challenging, heavy and soft, not afraid to throw in some curveballs, so mainly modern classical and depending on who you ask progressive rock/metal.  I wouldn't consider myself a headbanger but I'm not afraid of the heavy and really like it in limited doses without losing melody and traditional singing.  Here's an example of just about as heavy as you can get at times with djent but great atmospheric and jazz influences and really strong sense of melody and high register clean vocals that I really like. http://aviations.bandcamp.com/


not bad. not my favorite, but this style of music can be hit or miss for me.

a few of my recent favorite non-harsh vocals are:
Diablo Swing Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UIJmJB0GEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcRtdrsRQ5o

Hammers of Misfortune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0NaVmYpteg

progressive but with vocals on the guttural side:
Cormorant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n_xpxKLeas

I don't know if you'll like this last one, the vocals are growly, though clean in places,  but the music might win you over:
Aquilus - Nihil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYpLcfcCVnI
 
2013-05-08 01:02:24 AM
farm4.staticflickr.com

Still, dying of necrotizing fasciitis is pretty metal.

/Ha, ha, you read that in his voice
 
2013-05-08 01:46:57 AM

HighZoolander: Diablo Swing Orchestra


Love Diablo Swing.  The 2nd and 4th were okay on first listen, though probably a little bland for me.  I've got a a fair amount of classical music training, and I love that influence and other ethnic influences which Diablo Swing absolutely masters.  I also love rhythmic challenges and barring those things, some super catchy non-derivative riffs or an epic movie soundtrack quality.

Here's one of my favorite songs that puts it all together, Haken's "Visions"  You probably don't want to listen to all 22 minutes so go to 15:00-17:30+ for 20 seconds of  traditional ballad followed by 1:30 of one of the craziest proggiest things out there (listen for all 4 simultaneous vocals lines at 16:30) followed by 30 seconds of heavy groove followed by orchestral influenced movie epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJUDk6a4GsI
 
2013-05-08 02:33:24 AM

12349876: HighZoolander: Diablo Swing Orchestra

Love Diablo Swing.  The 2nd and 4th were okay on first listen, though probably a little bland for me.  I've got a a fair amount of classical music training, and I love that influence and other ethnic influences which Diablo Swing absolutely masters.  I also love rhythmic challenges and barring those things, some super catchy non-derivative riffs or an epic movie soundtrack quality.

Here's one of my favorite songs that puts it all together, Haken's "Visions"  You probably don't want to listen to all 22 minutes so go to 15:00-17:30+ for 20 seconds of  traditional ballad followed by 1:30 of one of the craziest proggiest things out there (listen for all 4 simultaneous vocals lines at 16:30) followed by 30 seconds of heavy groove followed by orchestral influenced movie epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJUDk6a4GsI


That was pretty interesting. I've been listening to a bit more, and I like this song more than the title track, particularly the vocal line at the beginning, though I prefer the heavy/bassy parts to the synthy parts in the rest of the song -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q97gsNppY7g

These days when I'm in the mood for clean vocals I usually go for doom or occult rock, though the occasional progressive album catches my interest. This might be one of them - I'll have to listen to it more - I suspect it needs a few listens to really appreciate.

I don't know if you like occult rock at all, but this song amazed me this year -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hgWxb1bXkE

/The thing that really impresses me about Diablo Swing Orchestra is that as much as I loved their early albums, they've still seemed to just keep getting better; this last album I just could not (and cannot) stop listening to.
 
2013-05-08 08:56:23 AM

Oakenhelm: Carn:
Dew Scented - Issue VI, Invocation

"Bitter Conflict" is my favorite song of theirs, off of Inwards. Makes me want to break everything


Revel in Contempt is mine off Invocation.
 
2013-05-08 09:23:28 AM
Nabb1: moothemagiccow: that's a pretty big oversight

Yeah, I have to agree with that.  I saw a triple-bill of Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer with Alice and Chains opening years ago.  My ears rang for days after the Slayer set.  Great night, though.


I never did see the Alice in Chains set.  I don't think it was much of a loss, personally.

I guess Slayer is basically done.
 
2013-05-08 01:54:58 PM

HighZoolander: I don't know if you like occult rock at all, but this song amazed me this year -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hgWxb1bXkE


Definitely a pleasing listen.  Not sure if would have long term appeal yet, but they've actually got a great female singer which is a bit of a rarity.  I think it's because a lot of them are just brought in when the guys think "I want a girl" and they never really meld with the band or are never really judged on how they sing with heavy music versus whatever classical or karaoke training they've had previously.

Two of the Haken members are in a band called To-Mera with a terrific female singer who is actually one of the founding members and the music goes way beyond your average symphonic metal band.  Compared to Haken, I'd say they're a bit less tied to traditional progressive rock, and more heavy at times and almost manic with its transitions from heavy to soft.   And I'll give you the song with 15 seconds of harsh male vocal (the only time on the album) at 5:05.  I love the piano motif that's carried through despite all the changes in style and tempo.

To-Mera - "The Descent"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JARH8N1y9aY
 
2013-05-08 01:59:17 PM

RockofAges: Cyclonic Cooking Action: RockofAges: Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate clean vocals, but I find it almost cliche how many metalheads reject death / black vocal delivery at this point.

Cookie monster vocals all sound the same.  Even old ST stuff at auctioneer speed you could eventually make out the lyrics with a lyric sheet.

A brush far too broad.


Possibly, but I bet if we isolated the vocal tracks from songs and switched them around, nobody would know.  I guess it depends on what someone thinks is cookie monster.  I'd say eyehategod is about my limit until it turns to mush.  I'm sure there are exceptions.
 
2013-05-09 12:42:09 AM

jbtilley: For a while in the mid to late 90s I thought metal had died.  It seems like metal has been partially resurrected here lately with Death Magnetic, World Painted Blood, and Unto the Locust.  I didn't like Metallica and Slayer's albums leading up to their latest releases but their most recent albums made me feel like things might be getting back on track.

I'm sure there are several albums I missed out on while I thought metal was done.  Any suggestions of albums worth checking out?  Like in the 1999 - 2009 range.  I'll have to check out the newer Exodus albums, the 80s Exodus never really resonated with me.  I've listened to Megadeth's 13 and The System Has Failed.  I do not get the praise for those albums. At. All.


Try Behemoth on for size, Evangelion is the best thing I've heard in a long time.
 
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