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2013-05-07 10:36:53 AM
Actually, I probably would have edited it to make myself look worse.

If everyone thinks you are a bunch of bumbling fools who can't do anything, that makes it a bit easier for you if you are at all competent.
 
2013-05-07 10:55:52 AM
Kathryn Bigelow's Osama bin Laden revenge-porn flick Zero Dark Thirty was the biggest publicity coup for the CIA this century outside of the actual killing of Osama bin Laden.

What a load of horsefeathers. "Revenge-porn" is hyperbolic trash writing. The CIA didn't exactly come off as all that great, either. When they weren't torturing the fark out of people, they were dragging their feet on actually getting bin Laden. The only people who came out looking great in that film were the members of SEAL Team Six who took part in the actual raid.
 
2013-05-07 10:56:22 AM
Should have used the 'Fail' tag.

/dumbass movie
 
2013-05-07 11:02:29 AM
Reality has been edited by the CIA to make themselves look better.  There is no escape.
 
2013-05-07 11:09:00 AM

JerseyTim: Kathryn Bigelow's Osama bin Laden revenge-porn flick Zero Dark Thirty was the biggest publicity coup for the CIA this century outside of the actual killing of Osama bin Laden.

What a load of horsefeathers. "Revenge-porn" is hyperbolic trash writing. The CIA didn't exactly come off as all that great, either. When they weren't torturing the fark out of people, they were dragging their feet on actually getting bin Laden. The only people who came out looking great in that film were the members of SEAL Team Six who took part in the actual raid.


No it's not. Watch HBO's Manhunt and you'll realize how much of Zero Dark Thirty was just the director jerking off into a giant pile of money.
 
2013-05-07 11:14:32 AM

JerseyTim: Kathryn Bigelow's Osama bin Laden revenge-porn flick Zero Dark Thirty was the biggest publicity coup for the CIA this century outside of the actual killing of Osama bin Laden.

What a load of horsefeathers. "Revenge-porn" is hyperbolic trash writing. The CIA didn't exactly come off as all that great, either. When they weren't torturing the fark out of people, they were dragging their feet on actually getting bin Laden. The only people who came out looking great in that film were the members of SEAL Team Six who took part in the actual raid.


The whole article is a POS.  All of the things that the CIA requested they remove were things that didn't actually happen:

The much-discussed opening scene of Zero Dark Thirty features the main character Maya, played by Jessica Chastain, observing a detainee at a CIA black site as he is water-boarded and shoved into a tiny box during an interrogation. It appears that an early version had Maya participating in the torture. But during their conference calls, the CIA told Boal that this was not true to life.

The CIA also took issue with an interrogation scene that featured a dog intimidating a detainee. Boal took it out: "We raised an objection that such tactics would not be used by the Agency," the memo reads


"One scene early in the film that was objected to was a rooftop party in Islamabad where an officer, after drinking fires a celebratory burst of AK-47 gunfire into the air. We insisted mixing drinking and firearms is a major violation and actions like this do not happen in real life. We requested this be taken out of the film. Boal confirmed he took this out of the film."
To be fair, drunken firearms abuse was more a  Blackwater thing.


I could go on but the moron author tipped his hand in the first setence.
 
2013-05-07 11:17:14 AM

JerseyTim: The CIA didn't exactly come off as all that great, either. When they weren't torturing the fark out of people, they were dragging their feet on actually getting bin Laden.


Or waving established entry control procedures to let a sketchy source onto an American base without being searched, allowing a suicide bomber to take out an entire CIA team.
 
2013-05-07 11:31:47 AM

dittybopper: Actually, I probably would have edited it to make myself look worse.

If everyone thinks you are a bunch of bumbling fools who can't do anything, that makes it a bit easier for you if you are at all competent.

 
2013-05-07 11:38:10 AM
l.yimg.com
 
2013-05-07 11:53:46 AM
Article is much ado about nothing. The changes the CIA requested are minor.

CIA: Um, the heroine watched the torture but didn't participate.
KB: Oh. OK.
CIA: Yeah, the drinkin' and shootin' was actually Blackwater.
KB: Oh, yeah. Sorry. Forgot about that.

BFD.

Zero Dark Thirty was a good movie and it focused more on the characters involved, particularly Maya, and the politics surrounding the hunt rather than the "revenge-porn" aspect.

Two things that stood out to me: Maya writing the number of days since they found bin Laden on her boss's office window and the CIA director asking her why she was recruited and her responding "I don't think I'm allowed to tell you."

When we see her at the end on the cargo plane, you have to wonder, what's next for her. She accomplished the one thing she set out to do in her professional life (with a drive and passion that we don't know the motivation for), but where does she go now?
 
2013-05-07 12:04:35 PM

LandOfChocolate: The whole article is a POS. All of the things that the CIA requested they remove were things that didn't actually happen


Yeah, I'm what some of you Farkers might call a libby-lib-lib and I still failed to find any outrage. I kept waiting to get to the "good stuff" and found out there was no good stuff.

On the other hand if it turns out that the CIA is lying about some of these events and issued these memos to try to cover their asses, well, that's another matter...
 
2013-05-07 12:05:34 PM
In other news: the CIA has a public affairs department.
 
2013-05-07 12:13:03 PM
Next up, they'll be accused of creating BOB's Birth Certificate...


/what, like no one's thought of that possibility?
 
2013-05-07 12:16:46 PM
I don't get the hoopla over that film, positive or negative. As a movie based on true events it was better than a CBS Movie of the Week, and had its moments but it wasn't some amazing bio of Important Events that some made it out to be. Nor was it an advertisement for torture, as its detractors implied. On its own it was a decent movie that I think was at its weakest when it tried to deal with the personal dramas of its cast. Which is just the opposite of  The Hurt Locker, which I thought was a much better movie.
 
2013-05-07 12:20:31 PM

rdu_voyager: When we see her at the end on the cargo plane, you have to wonder, what's next for her. She accomplished the one thing she set out to do in her professional life (with a drive and passion that we don't know the motivation for), but where does she go now?


Well I know Darth Vader's really got you annoyed
but if you kill him now, you'll be unemployed....
 
2013-05-07 12:20:46 PM
Finally saw it this weekend via Amazon.
Decent flick.
Plus I would not mind her dropping the F bomb numerous times while I penetrated her fortress.
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2013-05-07 12:28:33 PM

dittybopper: rdu_voyager: When we see her at the end on the cargo plane, you have to wonder, what's next for her. She accomplished the one thing she set out to do in her professional life (with a drive and passion that we don't know the motivation for), but where does she go now?

Well I know Darth Vader's really got you annoyed
but if you kill him now, you'll be unemployed....


I haven't heard that song in a while. My favorite by Al right now is "Party in the CIA". I could tell ya why, but then I'd have to kill ya.
 
2013-05-07 12:30:54 PM

Bith Set Me Up: [l.yimg.com image 450x334]


Is that Rick Romero?

/Coming up: bee stings sting
 
2013-05-07 01:15:39 PM

rdu_voyager: dittybopper: rdu_voyager: When we see her at the end on the cargo plane, you have to wonder, what's next for her. She accomplished the one thing she set out to do in her professional life (with a drive and passion that we don't know the motivation for), but where does she go now?

Well I know Darth Vader's really got you annoyed
but if you kill him now, you'll be unemployed....

I haven't heard that song in a while. My favorite by Al right now is "Party in the CIA". I could tell ya why, but then I'd have to kill ya.


Actually, you *COULD* tell me (google the term 'ditty bopper')
 
2013-05-07 02:50:35 PM
I liked the movie fine but thought it weird it had this almost-apologetic, conflicted tone at the end five minutes like it was unfortunate we had to take out this dude and "O God what have wrought." Sometimes a dude just has to get got.
 
2013-05-07 04:55:55 PM

SoupJohnB: Bith Set Me Up: [l.yimg.com image 450x334]

Is that Rick Romero?

/Coming up: bee stings sting


No, that's Nicolas Cage!
 
2013-05-07 04:59:06 PM

dittybopper: rdu_voyager: dittybopper: rdu_voyager: When we see her at the end on the cargo plane, you have to wonder, what's next for her. She accomplished the one thing she set out to do in her professional life (with a drive and passion that we don't know the motivation for), but where does she go now?

Well I know Darth Vader's really got you annoyed
but if you kill him now, you'll be unemployed....

I haven't heard that song in a while. My favorite by Al right now is "Party in the CIA". I could tell ya why, but then I'd have to kill ya.

Actually, you *COULD* tell me (google the term 'ditty bopper')


Could is different than should.
 
2013-05-07 05:53:33 PM

LandOfChocolate: The whole article is a POS.  All of the things that the CIA requested they remove were things that didn't actually happen


The videotapes of interrogation they made (and then later destroyed) have been pretty well documented.

No charges for destroying CIA interrogation videos

2005 CIA interrogation tapes destruction
 
2013-05-07 07:10:53 PM
I'm surprised about all the stuff they permitted.  The torture scenes were not carried out by a  CIA agent but by an American military officer.  And some CIA guys in the film verbally object to the practice because it is unreliable.  There are many layers to this, I guess.

And yeah, it's not like the CIA actually controlled the production.  America is a free country and the government doesn't own Hollywood.  Buttloads of anti-government movies come out of there every year.
 
2013-05-07 10:06:39 PM

dittybopper: rdu_voyager: When we see her at the end on the cargo plane, you have to wonder, what's next for her. She accomplished the one thing she set out to do in her professional life (with a drive and passion that we don't know the motivation for), but where does she go now?

Well I know Darth Vader's really got you annoyed
but if you kill him now, you'll be unemployed....


Dammit. Now I have that song stuck in my head.

Like a giant carbonated sooooda...
 
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