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(Omaha World Herald)   Two teachers spun a web of lies and deceit in order to cover up a terrifying mistake: letting a student with a peanut allergy eat peanut butter   (omaha.com) divider line 91
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2013-05-07 09:29:10 AM
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MR. MURDERER more like it
 
2013-05-07 09:45:40 AM
Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying
 
2013-05-07 10:18:36 AM
Letting or forcing. There's a nuance.
 
2013-05-07 10:19:15 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying


It's interesting to me that, consistently, the phrase "Just saying" follows something mind numbingly stupid.
 
2013-05-07 10:20:32 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying


^^THIS^^

The more we coddle these people, the more we weaken our gene pool by allowing substandard traits to be passed on.
 
2013-05-07 10:24:50 AM

TommyJReed: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

^^THIS^^

The more we coddle these people, the more we weaken our gene pool by allowing substandard traits to be passed on.


Yeah, the weak should be culled from the herd. Finally, someone else understands my solution.
 
2013-05-07 10:26:04 AM
Obviously, teachers need paid more.
 
2013-05-07 10:26:20 AM
Why hasn't someone tried to hold a major city hostage by threatening to release peanut dust all over the city?
 
2013-05-07 10:26:26 AM

MightyPez: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

It's interesting to me that, consistently, the phrase "Just saying" follows something mind numbingly stupid.


It's amazing to me that common sense solutions to manufactured/artificially perpetuated problems are consistently mocked as nonsensical.
 
2013-05-07 10:26:44 AM
Uck. I can see both sides of this. I have a food issue I don't want to get into, but there's stuff I absolutely can't have. On the other side, dealing with fad diets and people who think they have allergies is a pain in the ass. They make things worse for those of us who legit can not ingest things because they can "cheat," and they often don't have a clue how to do it right. It's like a "vegetarian" who eats chicken, only worse.

Also, a lot of people are dumb. A lot of people in the food/service industries are dumb. Some teachers/paras are dumb. I'm a teacher, btw.

There are countless times food servers, chefs, well-meaning hosts etc. have offered me alternatives to what I can't have, that still contain that same thing. If you don't know what you're serving, get out of the food industry, please. If you know what you're serving but think someone can have a little because it won't "kill them" or because you think allergies are stupid, it should be a crime.
 
2013-05-07 10:26:59 AM

TommyJReed: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

^^THIS^^

The more we coddle these people, the more we weaken our gene pool by allowing substandard traits to be passed on.


You do realize that not all positive traits go together in the same individuals right?  Someone with food allergies may survive the next big flu epidemic, while others don't.  What is really sad is that we each so much crap food and everything is processed to the nine that it's so hard to find processed foods without HFCS or peanuts.

Eat real food.  Fruits, veggies, meats, nuts (peanuts being a legume do not count).
 
2013-05-07 10:28:49 AM
Now, do you see how it's done, republicans?

Find your proof of the nut, first, then Benghazi!
 
2013-05-07 10:28:58 AM
Wow. Terrifying mistake? The kid didn't die, he had an allergic reaction. BFD. And yes, I know it's more drastic for some folks, but still...

Back when we were kids, it was our responsibility not to do shiat that would get us sick. When did it become policy that everybody else had to be responsible for making sure one kid doesn't get near anything with a peanut in it or whatever the hell else?
 
2013-05-07 10:29:29 AM

FullMetalPanda: Why hasn't someone tried to hold a major city hostage by threatening to release peanut dust all over the city?


Because the people who weren't allergic would smile and kick their balls up between their ears.
 
2013-05-07 10:31:23 AM

Carn: TommyJReed: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

^^THIS^^

The more we coddle these people, the more we weaken our gene pool by allowing substandard traits to be passed on.

You do realize that not all positive traits go together in the same individuals right?  Someone with food allergies may survive the next big flu epidemic, while others don't.  What is really sad is that we each so much crap food and everything is processed to the nine that it's so hard to find processed foods without HFCS or peanuts.

Eat real food.  Fruits, veggies, meats, nuts (peanuts being a legume do not count).


Peanuts: they're un-real!
 
2013-05-07 10:31:43 AM

Hermione_Granger: Wow. Terrifying mistake? The kid didn't die, he had an allergic reaction. BFD. And yes, I know it's more drastic for some folks, but still...

Back when we were kids, it was our responsibility not to do shiat that would get us sick. When did it become policy that everybody else had to be responsible for making sure one kid doesn't get near anything with a peanut in it or whatever the hell else?


Special Ed. The kids are expected to be mouth-breathing droolers, and the teachers are expected to keep track of shiat like "so and so is allergic to peanuts" or "the directions on the bathroom wall need to say "remove pants, then poop."" and so on.

It's a lot more individual work for the teacher. The upshot is the student:teacher ratio is usually only like 10:1, and they get extra classroom aides.
 
2013-05-07 10:33:02 AM

jshine: Carn: TommyJReed: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

^^THIS^^

The more we coddle these people, the more we weaken our gene pool by allowing substandard traits to be passed on.

You do realize that not all positive traits go together in the same individuals right?  Someone with food allergies may survive the next big flu epidemic, while others don't.  What is really sad is that we each so much crap food and everything is processed to the nine that it's so hard to find processed foods without HFCS or peanuts.

Eat real food.  Fruits, veggies, meats, nuts (peanuts being a legume do not count).

Peanuts: they're un-real!


I think undead would be even more fun.
 
2013-05-07 10:33:07 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-07 10:33:23 AM

mediaseth: Uck. I can see both sides of this. I have a food issue I don't want to get into, but there's stuff I absolutely can't have. On the other side, dealing with fad diets and people who think they have allergies is a pain in the ass. They make things worse for those of us who legit can not ingest things because they can "cheat," and they often don't have a clue how to do it right. It's like a "vegetarian" who eats chicken, only worse.

Also, a lot of people are dumb. A lot of people in the food/service industries are dumb. Some teachers/paras are dumb. I'm a teacher, btw.

There are countless times food servers, chefs, well-meaning hosts etc. have offered me alternatives to what I can't have, that still contain that same thing. If you don't know what you're serving, get out of the food industry, please. If you know what you're serving but think someone can have a little because it won't "kill them" or because you think allergies are stupid, it should be a crime.


Or you can be responsible for your own damn self and stop trying to place your burdens on others.
 
2013-05-07 10:34:17 AM

God-is-a-Taco: [i.imgur.com image 630x441]


Another example proving that those cartoons have literally never been funny.
 
2013-05-07 10:35:39 AM

God-is-a-Taco: [i.imgur.com image 630x441]


Why does everyone in that comic have a tumor growing out of each of their joints?
 
2013-05-07 10:36:28 AM

Hermione_Granger: Wow. Terrifying mistake? The kid didn't die, he had an allergic reaction. BFD. And yes, I know it's more drastic for some folks, but still...

Back when we were kids, it was our responsibility not to do shiat that would get us sick. When did it become policy that everybody else had to be responsible for making sure one kid doesn't get near anything with a peanut in it or whatever the hell else?


The kid was a special education student. I don't think this particular student had the wherewithal to refuse peanut butter.

I'm going to be pissed if I missed that he was in a special ed. class because he had ADD or something. If that's the case, the kid knew better.
 
2013-05-07 10:36:44 AM

StrangeQ: God-is-a-Taco: [i.imgur.com image 630x441]

Why does everyone in that comic have a tumor growing out of each of their joints?


Also: why is Mr. Peanut wearing high heels?
 
2013-05-07 10:36:58 AM
normally Id be all.. meh and pissed the FIVE people lost their jobs over this... then I notice the fact that THEY ARE SPECIAL NEEDS workers... and I think.. what farkin assholes. they should have been punished by get something that starts with PE stuffed in their mouths unwillingly and see how much they like it
 
Ant
2013-05-07 10:36:58 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying


Yes, let's do that with everything that requires special attention. Glasses? Darwin. Diabetes? Darwin. Deafness? Darwin. etc.

Natural selection is not a moral code
 
Ant
2013-05-07 10:37:45 AM

TommyJReed: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

^^THIS^^

The more we coddle these people, the more we weaken our gene pool by allowing substandard traits to be passed on.


OK, Adolf. Thanks for your input.
 
2013-05-07 10:37:48 AM

StrangeQ: mediaseth: Uck. I can see both sides of this. I have a food issue I don't want to get into, but there's stuff I absolutely can't have. On the other side, dealing with fad diets and people who think they have allergies is a pain in the ass. They make things worse for those of us who legit can not ingest things because they can "cheat," and they often don't have a clue how to do it right. It's like a "vegetarian" who eats chicken, only worse.

Also, a lot of people are dumb. A lot of people in the food/service industries are dumb. Some teachers/paras are dumb. I'm a teacher, btw.

There are countless times food servers, chefs, well-meaning hosts etc. have offered me alternatives to what I can't have, that still contain that same thing. If you don't know what you're serving, get out of the food industry, please. If you know what you're serving but think someone can have a little because it won't "kill them" or because you think allergies are stupid, it should be a crime.

Or you can be responsible for your own damn self and stop trying to place your burdens on others.


Actually, if you're at a restaurant, asking is about all you could do - unless by 'be responsible' you were implying he go back into their kitchen and cook his own dinner (which the staff would probably object to).

...and if a person is in the food-service industry, asking them about their food doesn't really seem out of line.
 
2013-05-07 10:37:48 AM

jwest13: MightyPez: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

It's interesting to me that, consistently, the phrase "Just saying" follows something mind numbingly stupid.

It's amazing to me that common sense solutions to manufactured/artificially perpetuated problems are consistently mocked as nonsensical.


Yes, de facto eugenics is very common sense.

/And what's the deal with smallpox? If you're too weak to survive it, you shouldn't be around...
 
2013-05-07 10:38:48 AM

Coolfusis: TommyJReed: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

^^THIS^^

The more we coddle these people, the more we weaken our gene pool by allowing substandard traits to be passed on.

Yeah, the weak should be culled from the herd. Finally, someone else understands my solution.


And the strong shall colonize Mars! Yay species!
 
2013-05-07 10:38:52 AM

StrangeQ: God-is-a-Taco: [i.imgur.com image 630x441]

Why does everyone in that comic have a tumor growing out of each of their joints?


To demonstrate how cancerous they are.
 
2013-05-07 10:39:00 AM
Maybe, just MAYYYBE the FIFTH grader should have known his allergies and been responsible for himself.
 
2013-05-07 10:40:11 AM
Someone, somewhere has to be allergic to people who have allergies.
 
2013-05-07 10:40:23 AM
Slowly give them peanut products, very slowly, over time. The body can learn to tolerate it.
 
Ant
2013-05-07 10:40:25 AM

jwest13: MightyPez: IdBeCrazyIf: Maybe if we just turned out heads for a little while that whole food allergy thing will Darwin itself out of existence.

Just saying

It's interesting to me that, consistently, the phrase "Just saying" follows something mind numbingly stupid.

It's amazing to me that common sense final solutions to manufactured/artificially perpetuated problems are consistently mocked as nonsensical.


Artificially perpetuated? You mean like near nearsightedness?
 
2013-05-07 10:40:39 AM

StrangeQ: Or you can be responsible for your own damn self and stop trying to place your burdens on others.


I usually am. But given that I like to visit folks, join friends for dinner, etc., live in the modern world, and through my work in a second job attend a lot of catered events and situations where it's considered rude not to eat what's offered, I can't always get around that. You try living in a city and sometimes traveling without ever eating in a restaurant.

I always ask politely. Sometimes, I apologize for being difficult. Sometimes, a place will have a special menu to offer. But sometimes, a place will have a special menu and it will be wrong and I'll get sick, or the chef will get "creative" or there's bad communication amongst the staff.

It's one thing to claim you can't feed me. I can respect that. It's quite another to say that you can, and you fail. It's the latter situation that's frustrating and dangerous.
 
2013-05-07 10:41:30 AM
If he tasted a peanut butter sandwich and nothing happened to him, he had no more than a mild allergy in the first place.

I on the other hand am allergic as fark to peanuts and tree nuts and would be wheezing and gasping for breath through my swollen bleeding lips after a nibble of peanut butter.  I deal with this by avoiding nuts and not being a farking primadonna about it.

But do I ever get moddlycoddled for it?  Heck no!  In fact, when I was 4 and the allergy first appeared, my loving parents  assumedI was  faking the hideous agony, difficulty breathing, and whatnot.  So what did they do?  They  constructed a strawberry out of marzipan!  So in my trusting 4 year old way I said "Thank you dear mother and father for this treat you have given to me to show that you love me," or words to that effect, and ate part of it.  Only part of it since my lips immediately began to swell up, I stopped breathing a minute later, and a while after that I woke up in hospital with an oxygen mask on and a LIFELONG DISTRUST OF THOSE CHILD POISONERS WHO CALL THEMSELVES MY PARENTS.
 
2013-05-07 10:42:29 AM
Back when we were kids, it was our responsibility not to do shiat that would get us sick. When did it become policy that everybody else had to be responsible for making sure one kid doesn't get near anything with a peanut in it or whatever the hell else?

This was a special needs class (did you miss the paraprofessionals part?).  Kid may not have been capable of self-monitoring.
 
Ant
2013-05-07 10:44:06 AM

Hermione_Granger: When did it become policy that special ed teachers should do their farking job, and not try to cover up mistakes everybody else had to be responsible for making sure one kid doesn't get near anything with a peanut in it or whatever the hell else?


FTFY
 
2013-05-07 10:44:14 AM
So, WTF is a "paraprofessional"?
 
2013-05-07 10:46:03 AM

AngryDragon: So, WTF is a "paraprofessional"?


People who wear suits when parachuting obviously
 
2013-05-07 10:46:42 AM

AngryDragon: So, WTF is a "paraprofessional"?


Someone who is not a certified teacher but assists one in a classroom.
 
2013-05-07 10:47:32 AM

StrangeQ: StrangeQ: God-is-a-Taco: [i.imgur.com image 630x441]

Why does everyone in that comic have a tumor growing out of each of their joints?

Also: why is Mr. Peanut wearing high heels?


The peanut industry is part of the homosexual agenda to indoctrinate your children into liking the taste of greasy brown stuff that can be smeared on anything.
 
2013-05-07 10:47:43 AM

mediaseth: There are countless times food servers, chefs, well-meaning hosts etc. have offered me alternatives to what I can't have, that still contain that same thing. If you don't know what you're serving, get out of the food industry, please. If you know what you're serving but think someone can have a little because it won't "kill them" or because you think allergies are stupid, it should be a crime.


Actually I'm fairly certain that once someone tells the server about their food allergy, attempting to feed it to them anyway counts as assault or attempted murder. Since...it becomes a weapon you know is harmful to them at that point.
 
Ant
2013-05-07 10:48:00 AM

stuhayes2010: Maybe, just MAYYYBE the FIFTH grader should have known his allergies and been responsible for himself.


Maybe, just maybe you should read the article a little more closely. Maybe, just maybe you would've known that this was a special ed class.
 
2013-05-07 10:49:05 AM

AngryDragon: So, WTF is a "paraprofessional"?


a professional with dual personalities?
 
Ant
2013-05-07 10:49:19 AM

Thunderpipes: Slowly give them peanut products, very slowly, over time. The body can learn to tolerate it.


I'm not sure it works that way. You may be thinking of iocane powder.
 
2013-05-07 10:49:49 AM

OnlyM3: Obviously, teachers need paid more.


Generally, yes, teachers should be paid more. Your English teacher would be the exception.
 
2013-05-07 10:50:55 AM

Dalrint: mediaseth: There are countless times food servers, chefs, well-meaning hosts etc. have offered me alternatives to what I can't have, that still contain that same thing. If you don't know what you're serving, get out of the food industry, please. If you know what you're serving but think someone can have a little because it won't "kill them" or because you think allergies are stupid, it should be a crime.

Actually I'm fairly certain that once someone tells the server about their food allergy, attempting to feed it to them anyway counts as assault or attempted murder. Since...it becomes a weapon you know is harmful to them at that point.


What about when they don't know ingredients or don't even know that flour comes from wheat? You have no idea how many say to me, "Oh, you can't have wheat? How about a wrap?" That's always a facepalm moment and a big clue that I should just turn around and walk about of a place. But, sometimes I can't, because of particular circumstances...
 
2013-05-07 10:52:10 AM
It was a cover-up that led to the hasty departure of two special education teachers from Millard Public Schools' Walt Disney Elementary School last year.

They didn't want that Mickey Mouse job anyway.
 
Ant
2013-05-07 10:52:55 AM

abu ponster: If he tasted a peanut butter sandwich and nothing happened to him, he had no more than a mild allergy in the first place.

I on the other hand am allergic as fark to peanuts and tree nuts and would be wheezing and gasping for breath through my swollen bleeding lips after a nibble of peanut butter.  I deal with this by avoiding nuts and not being a farking primadonna about it.

But do I ever get moddlycoddled for it?  Heck no!  In fact, when I was 4 and the allergy first appeared, my loving parents  assumedI was  faking the hideous agony, difficulty breathing, and whatnot.  So what did they do?  They  constructed a strawberry out of marzipan!  So in my trusting 4 year old way I said "Thank you dear mother and father for this treat you have given to me to show that you love me," or words to that effect, and ate part of it.  Only part of it since my lips immediately began to swell up, I stopped breathing a minute later, and a while after that I woke up in hospital with an oxygen mask on and a LIFELONG DISTRUST OF THOSE CHILD POISONERS WHO CALL THEMSELVES MY PARENTS.


What do you make of the people who suggest that you should give yourself small amounts over time to force your body to get used to it? I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way, but I could be wrong.
 
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