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(Slate)   There's a reason you don't offer to feed your coworker's cats unless you know for certain that she doesn't live in squalor with four cats and four rats who treat the apartment like a giant litterbox   (slate.com) divider line 66
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2013-05-07 08:23:48 AM
Well, what's the reason? Are you going to tell me?
 
2013-05-07 08:26:57 AM
Something something St. Ives.
 
2013-05-07 08:27:18 AM

untaken_name: Well, what's the reason? Are you going to tell me?


What's in the box?!

What's in the litterboooxxxxxx?!
 
2013-05-07 08:27:26 AM
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2013-05-07 08:29:12 AM
When I was in college, an excruciatingly hot girl lived down the hall from me.  One night I went back to her room, where she had a cat and its vast clowder of kittens.  The room smelled like rotting wet cat food and brimming cat box.  It was then that I remembered a paper that I had to finish.
 
2013-05-07 08:29:27 AM
Prudie thinks you can just tell Animal Control that you don't want THESE animals euthanized, and that somehow makes some kind of a difference. Hysterical. I can tell she's never stepped her entitled ass into a municipal shelter.
 
2013-05-07 08:30:52 AM
Four cats and four rats. Feeding should be taken care of at least for a while.
 
2013-05-07 08:34:49 AM
Rats... as in pet rats?  That's a bit different than a rat infestation, isn't it?  The writer and Prudie both  seem like they're being a bit overly dramatic here.
 
2013-05-07 08:35:26 AM

Harry Freakstorm: Four cats and four rats. Feeding should be taken care of at least for a while.


Well, rats are pretty good at hiding, and very fast at breeding. It's even money who chows down on who in the long run.
 
2013-05-07 08:41:37 AM
I had to clean out this hot lady's cubicle after they fired her. Awesome dresser. Nice short skirts, heels and seriously hawt. The workstation was pushed up against the cube wall so I was surprised it was still running. There were half eaten meals in the bottom drawer and Victoria Secret catalogs soaking up the mess. She had a couple of pairs of shoes in another drawer and they smelled as rancid as the food in the other drawer. I opened the drawer and "Whoa! More food? No. Shoes." After I dumped both of those drawers, I took them outside and washed them down.

She was a customer service rep who twisted her ankle walking in to work one morning. The company sent her to the hospital where they told her to take a pee test. She refused and they fired her.

The saddest part was that she didn't store any photos of herself on the computer. I know this was pre-cell phone camera days but there were some ladies who were pioneers in the "stand in front of a mirror and take a picture of themselves in their underwear." God bless 'em.
 
2013-05-07 08:44:12 AM

BunkyBrewman: Rats... as in pet rats? That's a bit different than a rat infestation, isn't it?


For people like that, no.  Sure, a reasonably sane person would keep their pet rat in a cage.
My aunt, for example, decided it wasn't fair for her rat to be in a cage while the other dozen or so animals had free reign of the house.  Pretty soon she had multiple pet rats...
 
2013-05-07 08:46:01 AM

Harry Freakstorm: She was a customer service rep who twisted her ankle walking in to work one morning. The company sent her to the hospital where they told her to take a pee test. She refused and they fired her.


Wat

Was this in old East Germany or something?
 
2013-05-07 08:49:29 AM

spentmiles: I would've cleaned the place thoroughly, bathed the pets, and restocked the place with nutritious food for both owner and animal.  When the woman came home, I would've been there with a therapist to talk her through her problems.  Then I would've checked up on her every few days, as a friend, and tried to encourage her toward healthy choices.  If I saw the apartment falling into disarray again, I'd help her clean it and reinforce that I was there for her.  Then, if she still couldn't maintain the place, I'd tie her to a kitchen chair and force her to watch me shove one of the cats, feet first, into the garbage disposal.  If that didn't get through to her, I'd throw Mr. Jingles in the microwave for thirty minutes.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd take a meat tenderizer to the rats, leaving their heads in tact so they could stare at her as she hung upside down in the living room.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd burn the place down around her after finishing off the rest of the cats with a weed whacker.  I don't understand why people don't see problems as an opportunity to help.  I guess they are too self-centered to think outside themselves.


I hope the goblins that run your head never actually get out.
 
2013-05-07 08:50:20 AM
I had a hot 20-something coworker who once asked me to feed her cats while she was gone for a week.

Yes, I looked at her underwear when I was there.
 
2013-05-07 08:50:36 AM

spentmiles: I would've cleaned the place thoroughly, bathed the pets, and restocked the place with nutritious food for both owner and animal.  When the woman came home, I would've been there with a therapist to talk her through her problems.  Then I would've checked up on her every few days, as a friend, and tried to encourage her toward healthy choices.  If I saw the apartment falling into disarray again, I'd help her clean it and reinforce that I was there for her.  Then, if she still couldn't maintain the place, I'd tie her to a kitchen chair and force her to watch me shove one of the cats, feet first, into the garbage disposal.  If that didn't get through to her, I'd throw Mr. Jingles in the microwave for thirty minutes.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd take a meat tenderizer to the rats, leaving their heads in tact so they could stare at her as she hung upside down in the living room.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd burn the place down around her after finishing off the rest of the cats with a weed whacker.  I don't understand why people don't see problems as an opportunity to help.  I guess they are too self-centered to think outside themselves.


sounds good to me.
 
2013-05-07 08:51:32 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Harry Freakstorm: She was a customer service rep who twisted her ankle walking in to work one morning. The company sent her to the hospital where they told her to take a pee test. She refused and they fired her.

Wat

Was this in old East Germany or something?


Refusing a drug test after an onsite accident is a firing offense pretty much everywhere.
 
2013-05-07 08:53:53 AM

Billy Bathsalt: When I was in college, an excruciatingly hot girl lived down the hall from me.  One night I went back to her room, where she had a cat and its vast clowder of kittens.  The room smelled like rotting wet cat food and brimming cat box.  It was then that I remembered a paper that I had to finish.


Point of hair-splitting entymology:

While 'clowder' is the appropriate word for a bunch of cats, it usually implies that they are adults.
'Litter' is the word describing the juvenile offspring.
'Crazy cat lady-in-training' or possibly 'incipient crazy cat lady' describes the status of excruciatingly hot girl.


/ Lives with a 4-cat clowder who have been prevented from littering.
 
2013-05-07 08:54:19 AM

Billy Bathsalt: When I was in college, an excruciatingly hot girl lived down the hall from me.  One night I went back to her room, where she had a cat and its vast clowder of kittens.  The room smelled like rotting wet cat food and brimming cat box.  It was then that I remembered a paper that I had to finish.


Was this the girl?

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/Friends reference trifecta in play
 
2013-05-07 09:04:41 AM
Tastes like chicken
 
2013-05-07 09:06:19 AM
I take it the rats are pets, otherwise it's time for a serious conversation with the cats about what exactly it is you do here.
 
2013-05-07 09:08:19 AM

BunkyBrewman: Rats... as in pet rats?  That's a bit different than a rat infestation, isn't it?  The writer and Prudie both  seem like they're being a bit overly dramatic here.


If this was a privately owned house, you might have a point....however, this is an APARTMENT!  You have no sympathy for the neighbors?  Or the landlord who is going to have to eventually clean this mess up?  Or the next tenant who is going to wonder why the place smells like pee every time it rains?  Forget animal control, just call the landlord.
 
2013-05-07 09:11:04 AM

spentmiles: I would've cleaned the place thoroughly, bathed the pets, and restocked the place with nutritious food for both owner and animal.  When the woman came home, I would've been there with a therapist to talk her through her problems.  Then I would've checked up on her every few days, as a friend, and tried to encourage her toward healthy choices.  If I saw the apartment falling into disarray again, I'd help her clean it and reinforce that I was there for her.  Then, if she still couldn't maintain the place, I'd tie her to a kitchen chair and force her to watch me shove one of the cats, feet first, into the garbage disposal.  If that didn't get through to her, I'd throw Mr. Jingles in the microwave for thirty minutes.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd take a meat tenderizer to the rats, leaving their heads in tact so they could stare at her as she hung upside down in the living room.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd burn the place down around her after finishing off the rest of the cats with a weed whacker.  I don't understand why people don't see problems as an opportunity to help.  I guess they are too self-centered to think outside themselves.


That's beautiful, man.
 
2013-05-07 09:15:42 AM

serial_crusher: BunkyBrewman: Rats... as in pet rats? That's a bit different than a rat infestation, isn't it?

For people like that, no.  Sure, a reasonably sane person would keep their pet rat in a cage.
My aunt, for example, decided it wasn't fair for her rat to be in a cage while the other dozen or so animals had free reign of the house.  Pretty soon she had multiple pet rats...


My sister decided she wanted pet rats and made the executive decision not to run this by our mother before getting them.
She found an old metal breadbox to use as a cage and fixed it up with a water bottle and a wheel for them to run on. The 'cage' was scrubbed out and those poor rats got bathed EVERY DAY so there'd be no smell. She'd gotten both sexes...'so they won't get lonely'.
Ended up with about 12 rats in 3 generations before she gave up the venture and took them to the pet store. Some of the 3rd generation babies were stillborn- brother/sister matings frequently don't make for viable offspring. Think this is what caused her to give up the rats...the stillborn babies really upset her.

It was kind of interesting watching the birth process of the first litter. Mama Rat had been handled so much that she was pretty well socialized and didn't freak out about having an audience.
Newborn rats look like puppies- tiny, pink, hairless, blind puppies.
 
2013-05-07 09:16:08 AM
crzybtch:If this was a privately owned house, you might have a point....however, this is an APARTMENT!  You have no sympathy for the neighbors?  Or the landlord who is going to have to eventually clean this mess up?  Or the next tenant who is going to wonder why the place smells like pee every time it rains?  Forget animal control, just call the landlord.

Presumably she owns the apartment or the landlord just doesn't care how many pets she has. What you need to do is tell the neighbors. They really don't want rats and roaches. They'll take care of the problem and you can go on being a good coworker.
 
2013-05-07 09:16:58 AM
To The Escape Zeppelin!

HotWingConspiracy: Harry Freakstorm
: She was a customer service rep who twisted her ankle walking in to work one morning. The company sent her to the hospital where they told her to take a pee test. She refused and they fired her.

Wat

Was this in old East Germany or something?

Refusing a drug test after an onsite accident is a firing offense pretty much everywhere.


Especially with companies that do manufacturing. This place had a lot of workers doing dangerous work. It was pretty well known that if you get hurt on the job, HR would call a cab, send you to their doctor and you had to drop clean.

This lady was walking in to work. You go through a gate where the guard checks your ID and then you walk in to the office building. Supposedly, she was going in to the building and stepped wrong. Since she was hot, the guard at the gate came over and helped her. Then, the HR person arrived for work, saw what was happening and took control.

Next thing I know, I'm dumping watery tuna salad in to a garbage can and muttering "There had better be at least a hand bra photo on that damn hard drive." There wasn't.
 
2013-05-07 09:22:41 AM
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2013-05-07 09:24:42 AM

To The Escape Zeppelin!: HotWingConspiracy: Harry Freakstorm: She was a customer service rep who twisted her ankle walking in to work one morning. The company sent her to the hospital where they told her to take a pee test. She refused and they fired her.

Wat

Was this in old East Germany or something?

Refusing a drug test after an onsite accident is a firing offense pretty much everywhere.


Damn. Not where I work. Oddly, I work for a company based in Germany.
 
2013-05-07 09:28:33 AM

syzygy whizz: serial_crusher: BunkyBrewman: Rats... as in pet rats? That's a bit different than a rat infestation, isn't it?

For people like that, no.  Sure, a reasonably sane person would keep their pet rat in a cage.
My aunt, for example, decided it wasn't fair for her rat to be in a cage while the other dozen or so animals had free reign of the house.  Pretty soon she had multiple pet rats...

My sister decided she wanted pet rats and made the executive decision not to run this by our mother before getting them.
She found an old metal breadbox to use as a cage and fixed it up with a water bottle and a wheel for them to run on. The 'cage' was scrubbed out and those poor rats got bathed EVERY DAY so there'd be no smell. She'd gotten both sexes...'so they won't get lonely'.
Ended up with about 12 rats in 3 generations before she gave up the venture and took them to the pet store. Some of the 3rd generation babies were stillborn- brother/sister matings frequently don't make for viable offspring. Think this is what caused her to give up the rats...the stillborn babies really upset her.

It was kind of interesting watching the birth process of the first litter. Mama Rat had been handled so much that she was pretty well socialized and didn't freak out about having an audience.
Newborn rats look like puppies- tiny, pink, hairless, blind puppies.


Always, always determine your rat's sex (it's not hard: rat sacks are HUGE) before getting them, and keep them apart so they don't breed. Spay the females if they were living in a mixed setting before (ratbortion?). Pretty important step of owning pet rats.

spentmiles: I would've cleaned the place thoroughly, bathed the pets, and restocked the place with nutritious food for both owner and animal.  When the woman came home, I would've been there with a therapist to talk her through her problems.  Then I would've checked up on her every few days, as a friend, and tried to encourage her toward healthy choices.  If I saw the apartment falling into disarray again, I'd help her clean it and reinforce that I was there for her.  Then, if she still couldn't maintain the place, I'd tie her to a kitchen chair and force her to watch me shove one of the cats, feet first, into the garbage disposal.  If that didn't get through to her, I'd throw Mr. Jingles in the microwave for thirty minutes.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd take a meat tenderizer to the rats, leaving their heads in tact so they could stare at her as she hung upside down in the living room.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd burn the place down around her after finishing off the rest of the cats with a weed whacker.  I don't understand why people don't see problems as an opportunity to help.  I guess they are too self-centered to think outside themselves.


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2013-05-07 09:29:41 AM
"The reason?"; you ask; I'll tell you mine!
There's not one, but TEN! Believe it or not!
four cats, four rats, and the squalor makes nine...
The tenth, of course, is that she's not hot.
 
2013-05-07 09:31:39 AM

Billy Bathsalt: When I was in college, an excruciatingly hot girl lived down the hall from me.  One night I went back to her room, where she had a cat and its vast clowder of kittens.  The room smelled like rotting wet cat food and brimming cat box.  It was then that I remembered a paper that I had to finish.


CLOWDER!!

HOOO-aaahh!

Good word!
 
2013-05-07 09:35:41 AM

spentmiles: I would've cleaned the place thoroughly, bathed the pets, and restocked the place with nutritious food for both owner and animal.  When the woman came home, I would've been there with a therapist to talk her through her problems.  Then I would've checked up on her every few days, as a friend, and tried to encourage her toward healthy choices.  If I saw the apartment falling into disarray again, I'd help her clean it and reinforce that I was there for her.  Then, if she still couldn't maintain the place, I'd tie her to a kitchen chair and force her to watch me shove one of the cats, feet first, into the garbage disposal.  If that didn't get through to her, I'd throw Mr. Jingles in the microwave for thirty minutes.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd take a meat tenderizer to the rats, leaving their heads in tact so they could stare at her as she hung upside down in the living room.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd burn the place down around her after finishing off the rest of the cats with a weed whacker.  I don't understand why people don't see problems as an opportunity to help.  I guess they are too self-centered to think outside themselves.


Going kind of soft on them aren't you?  Must be a liberal.
 
2013-05-07 09:52:52 AM

spentmiles: I would've cleaned the place thoroughly, bathed the pets, and restocked the place with nutritious food for both owner and animal.  When the woman came home, I would've been there with a therapist to talk her through her problems.  Then I would've checked up on her every few days, as a friend, and tried to encourage her toward healthy choices.  If I saw the apartment falling into disarray again, I'd help her clean it and reinforce that I was there for her.  Then, if she still couldn't maintain the place, I'd tie her to a kitchen chair and force her to watch me shove one of the cats, feet first, into the garbage disposal.  If that didn't get through to her, I'd throw Mr. Jingles in the microwave for thirty minutes.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd take a meat tenderizer to the rats, leaving their heads in tact so they could stare at her as she hung upside down in the living room.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd burn the place down around her after finishing off the rest of the cats with a weed whacker.  I don't understand why people don't see problems as an opportunity to help.  I guess they are too self-centered to think outside themselves.


I came to post a rant about these self entitled women and their reaction to finding a couple who are living in poverty....but I have lost the words after reading this post.
 
2013-05-07 10:08:11 AM

DubtodaIll: spentmiles: I would've cleaned the place thoroughly, bathed the pets, and restocked the place with nutritious food for both owner and animal.  When the woman came home, I would've been there with a therapist to talk her through her problems.  Then I would've checked up on her every few days, as a friend, and tried to encourage her toward healthy choices.  If I saw the apartment falling into disarray again, I'd help her clean it and reinforce that I was there for her.  Then, if she still couldn't maintain the place, I'd tie her to a kitchen chair and force her to watch me shove one of the cats, feet first, into the garbage disposal.  If that didn't get through to her, I'd throw Mr. Jingles in the microwave for thirty minutes.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd take a meat tenderizer to the rats, leaving their heads in tact so they could stare at her as she hung upside down in the living room.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd burn the place down around her after finishing off the rest of the cats with a weed whacker.  I don't understand why people don't see problems as an opportunity to help.  I guess they are too self-centered to think outside themselves.

I hope the goblins that run your head never actually get out.


I hope your hope is in vain.
 
2013-05-07 10:13:34 AM
I treat your mom like a giant litterbox, but that's what she pays me for.
 
2013-05-07 10:14:04 AM
What bothered me about this is Prudence's assumption that the rats are running around loose and perhaps the owner is "looking to re-establish bubonic plague." Four rats in cages are not what Prudence referred to as "a terrifying rat infestation." There is no evidence at all that the rats are anywhere other than in their proper rat cages, and the fact that there are also cats in the place makes it highly likely that the rats are in cages. I'm pretty sure Prudence wouldn't have had the same reaction if the pet owner had four hamsters rather than rats.

I'm not sure what I would do if someone agreed to care for my pets for me while I was away, and then had them killed instead (which IS what will happen if the LW calls animal control) but I'm pretty sure it would negate any further needs I would have for owning pets, or commenting on Fark for that matter. Aside from the fundamental cruelty involved, the breach of trust that would entail would be staggering.

We also have only the LW's word that the place is squalid. She does say the cats are healthy. "Smelled like urine" could simply be an uncleaned litter box (and who knows what she actually found on the wall, or where). People's definitions of "squalid" differ greatly. Take my mother: I'm not sure anyone, anywhere, meets her standards. You could not only eat off her kitchen floor, you could perform aseptic surgery there. And yet, from my earliest childhood, she has always said her house was "filthy". I wouldn't trust her opinion of anyone else's place. For all we know, the LW could be someone with similar issues.

It looks to me like Prudence has a rather extreme aversion to rats and just triggered on them, hence the "rat infestation" comments, etc., without even considering that many people keep rats for pets and, honestly, there's no fundamental difference between a pet rat and a pet hamster except that the rat is smarter and doesn't bite you at random times. It's probable that the pet owner didn't mention the rats because they were in their cages with full water bottles and a sufficient supply of food for the duration, and wouldn't need any attention from the pet-sitter.

All in all, an unusually bad response on Prudence's part. If there's some way to contact her about it that doesn't require one to be a registered user of Facebook and announce one's opinions on pets to the world at large, I can't find it.
 
2013-05-07 10:19:23 AM
I would never allow this for myself or my family but, unless she's renting, who cares?

Isn't this that whole "freedom" thing we used to believe in?  Doesn't seem to be hurting anyone.

Plus, squalor to one isn't necessarily squalor to another.  Perhaps this coworker waited several days before visiting the place (she did say it was a huge inconvenience) and she only mentions visiting once.

Who's to say, too, that the place was fine until the animals were left unattended for so long?

Either way, nosy biatch.
 
2013-05-07 10:23:08 AM
should have worn her underwear, not looked at them.
 
2013-05-07 10:27:01 AM

Worldwalker: What bothered me about this is Prudence's assumption that the rats are running around loose and perhaps the owner is "looking to re-establish bubonic plague." Four rats in cages are not what Prudence referred to as "a terrifying rat infestation." There is no evidence at all that the rats are anywhere other than in their proper rat cages, and the fact that there are also cats in the place makes it highly likely that the rats are in cages. I'm pretty sure Prudence wouldn't have had the same reaction if the pet owner had four hamsters rather than rats.


My money's on the side of the person not keeping 8 pets in a 1 room apartment.
 
2013-05-07 10:28:04 AM
There are those hot girls who grow up with hotness entitlement such that any form of labor is beneath them, including cleaning up after themselves. Their houses can be terrifying if they don't have someone to nag into cleaning up after them.
 
2013-05-07 10:28:09 AM

orclover: spentmiles: I would've cleaned the place thoroughly, bathed the pets, and restocked the place with nutritious food for both owner and animal.  When the woman came home, I would've been there with a therapist to talk her through her problems.  Then I would've checked up on her every few days, as a friend, and tried to encourage her toward healthy choices.  If I saw the apartment falling into disarray again, I'd help her clean it and reinforce that I was there for her.  Then, if she still couldn't maintain the place, I'd tie her to a kitchen chair and force her to watch me shove one of the cats, feet first, into the garbage disposal.  If that didn't get through to her, I'd throw Mr. Jingles in the microwave for thirty minutes.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd take a meat tenderizer to the rats, leaving their heads in tact so they could stare at her as she hung upside down in the living room.  And if that wasn't enough, I'd burn the place down around her after finishing off the rest of the cats with a weed whacker.  I don't understand why people don't see problems as an opportunity to help.  I guess they are too self-centered to think outside themselves.

I came to post a rant about these self entitled women and their reaction to finding a couple who are living in poverty....but I have lost the words after reading this post.


It's not just poverty. Plenty of poor people know how to clean, and plenty of well-off people are slobs. As far as I know, cleaning out the litterbox is a no-cost endeavor and poverty should not affect one's ability to do it.
 
2013-05-07 10:48:51 AM
You have two choices: One is to call animal control now. The other is to wait until your friend comes back and speak to her first. You have to weigh your relationship with this colleague and how blowing the whistle would affect your work life.


This is farking horrible advice. I hate a snitch. But I REALLY hate a snitch who tells without giving you a chance to address them issue. I bet Prudence is the kind of co-worker who would see you dozing at your desk and run to tell a supervisor instead of giving you a little nudge and telling you to go get some coffee. For all this woman knows, the cats could have farked the house up when the co-worker left. Maybe she's about to move or renovate. Don't call the farking authorities and get her caught up in an uneccessary shiat storm before you allow her to address the situation.
 
2013-05-07 10:50:24 AM

lizyrd: As far as I know, cleaning out the litterbox is a no-cost endeavor and poverty should not affect one's ability to do it.


Isn't that why she had the LW taking care of her cats while she was away?
 
2013-05-07 11:31:46 AM

Worldwalker: lizyrd: As far as I know, cleaning out the litterbox is a no-cost endeavor and poverty should not affect one's ability to do it.

Isn't that why she had the LW taking care of her cats while she was away?


You're taking my comment in an unintended direction. I was responding to a comment that suggests the ladies are being judgemental biatches because of poverty; my point being that poverty is no excuse since many of the basics of keeping a clean house are low-cost/no-cost activities.

However, since you mention it, if I were asked to look after a coworker's cats and on the first day the place smells like cat piss, there's shiat on the walls, and so on, I wouldn't plan on cleaning it up.
 
2013-05-07 11:34:26 AM
Q:
My coworker lives in filth and has 4 cats and 4 rats she wants me to take care of.  What do?

A:
Call an animal shelter and make sure nothing bad happens to those poor, sweet kitties.

[Emphasis mine]
But, "You can explain to your co-worker that when you came into her place there was a terrifying rat infestation which left you unable to enter the premises to take care of the cats."
The home owner needs to, "...explain she's not looking to re-establish bubonic plague..."
Also, "If you've given someone the keys to your rat-filled household without establishing the rats are guests, you leave yourself open to having the exterminator come calling."

The coworker is a potential, bio-warfare terrorist?  Considering everything in quote marks is an actual quote, this is NOT a person you should be taking advice from.
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2013-05-07 11:53:24 AM
Harry Freakstorm:  Four cats and four rats. Feeding should be taken care of at least for a while.

Not necessarily. From my experience cats don't like to mess with anything that can fight back: mice and chipmunks yes, rats and possums no.

That's why there are terriers, pit bulls, and random mutts with a killer instinct like the ex's 10 month old puppy who'll probably never be allowed near her ferrets (but for some reason the cat registered right away as "buddy!" so she won't leave him alone).

We also had a couple of ferrets who seemed to keep mice as pets, letting them come in the cage, eat and leave unbothered. And my dog, a 12# pomeranian who's about to have his 8th birthday, doesn't have a predatory or aggressive bone in his body: from tiny puppyhood he's been safe and friendly with cats, little kids and ferrets, and once when I was trying to chase a mouse outside with a broom he ran to the cornered mouse and stood over him facing me with a shocked and offended expression. ("HEY! You MEANY! Leave the little guy ALONE!")

And some predators just don't prey. For example a congenial coed would be safe around me, regardless of how she dressed or didn't: I just can't be bothered. Groping and grabbing are too much like work, and even her begging wouldn't move me (if such a thing could ever happen). I'm a retired creepy pervert, dammit.


 lizyrd: ...Plenty of poor people know how to clean, and plenty of well-off people are slobs.

I know how to clean, I supported myself doing that for a couple years long ago, and till going on psych meds in the '90s my place had to be kept as tidy and sanitary as possible so the crawlies wouldn't get me (cf. the movie Bug). But for these past few years of being on the maximum dose of two $4 generics while avoiding anything to do with real live people (except the ex who keeps my dog) I've become content to live in squalor: I avoid attracting roaches but clutter never gets cleared away till there's no room to add any more. If  this apartment complex allowed cats I'd have at least one and keep the litter box scrupulously clean, but I'd be stepping over bottles and kicking aside shoes and dirty laundry to get there and back.

Of course if a congenial coed were to bring me her homework to assist her with (and a fifth of Old Grand-Dad as proper compensation) I'd at least gather up the empties and clear a table off, but if she attempted personal liberties I'd straight away march her directly to her car. If Old Grand-Dad mattered that much I'd break down and pay for it instead of the cheap stuff I've been guzzling lately. (But when offering intellectual guidance to real live people I'd be duty-bound to be sober at the time, in case it makes any difference.)
 
2013-05-07 12:00:13 PM
"If you've given someone the keys to your rat-filled household without establishing the rats are guests, you leave yourself open to having the exterminator come calling."

Yeah, that one got to me too.

Proodle is apparently seriously recommending that the LW have her co-worker's pets killed -- calling an exterminator for pet rats in cages. The hell? And anyone who thinks four pet rats amounts to a "rat-filled household" has never seen a rat-filled anything.

lizyrd: However, since you mention it, if I were asked to look after a coworker's cats and on the first day the place smells like cat piss, there's shiat on the walls, and so on, I wouldn't plan on cleaning it up.


I didn't get the impression from the article that this was the first day. If it had been several days, and the litter box needed tending, yeah, she might have smelled something. Whether it was a saturation stink in the whole place or a faint odor from a litter box that needed cleaning is open to question, however. As for the shiat on the walls, if the place was as much of a mess as she described, how could she tell if it was in fact shiat or, I dunno, splashed spaghetti sauce? Seriously, did she get down and sniff it to find out? (and in which case, she doesn't just have issues; she has whole volumes, maybe entire print runs) Or did she just assume "this place isn't as sterile as mine, so this stuff must be shiat"?

In any event, when someone asks you to take care of their pets for them, having their pets killed in their absence shouldn't even be on the table.
 
2013-05-07 12:00:40 PM

crzybtch: BunkyBrewman: Rats... as in pet rats?  That's a bit different than a rat infestation, isn't it?  The writer and Prudie both  seem like they're being a bit overly dramatic here.

If this was a privately owned house, you might have a point....however, this is an APARTMENT!  You have no sympathy for the neighbors?  Or the landlord who is going to have to eventually clean this mess up?  Or the next tenant who is going to wonder why the place smells like pee every time it rains?  Forget animal control, just call the landlord.


I missed the part where the neighbors or the landlord complained.  In reality, the cat(s) were probably pissed (literally and figuratively) that their owners left them.  Perhaps they showed their stress by pissing.  But hell... what do I know except not to come to idiotic conclusions based on some farking letter to Dear Prudence.

/can't believe I actually responded to such an idiotic post
 
2013-05-07 12:02:49 PM
latimesblogs.latimes.com

Methinks Prudie watches Hoarders.
 
2013-05-07 12:27:56 PM
Worldwalker:

All in all, an unusually bad response on Prudence's part. If there's some way to contact her about it that doesn't require one to be a registered user of Facebook and announce one's opinions on pets to the world at large, I can't find it.

AHEM. I have only 20 FB "Friends," including two Famous Authors (who each have about 500 FB "Friends," which might explain how I slipped by). Announcing opinions to the world at large is what Fark comments are for: these modadmins even let one criticize Israel, or perhaps I should say they let one risk generating complaints to them by criticizing Israel, and I only got slapped once for posting a too-graphic photo of a deformed dead baby. (A.k.a. LUNCH!!!)

As for Dear Prudence (which was a Beatles song first), in TFA right before the question in question I found a a little sentence reading "Send questions to Prudence at pru­d­en­ce­[nospam-﹫-backwards]e­tal­s­*com." If you intend a more-or-less private communication she'll presumably receive those there as well. If you don't want to risk appearing to stalk her, the first sentence of those introductory italics reads "Emily Yoffe, aka Dear Prudence, is on Washingtonpost.com weekly to chat live with readers."

For that matter, if you did "join the human race" on Facebook you could send her a private Message thereby via www.facebook.com/EmilyYoffe and the clickable "Message" button thereon.

But concerning the critique implicit here, consider that this will probably be my only intelligent contribution to Humanity this week. If that.


/So where's that coed bearing bourbon?!? Summer session must be near.
 
2013-05-07 12:35:50 PM
From the description it sounds like they are just poor. News flash: if you keep four cats in one room the room will smell of piss. No matter how much you scoop that litter it's going to be unavoidable. And yeah, a little poop on the wall is a gross but it doesn't sound that bad. Since she "found it later" I'm going to assume it was pretty minor. If the cats are healthy, there's no problem here that I can see. Sure it's a little weird and certainly not how I would choose to live, but different strokes fer different folks.
 
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