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(Wired)   So, how long would it take an AT-AT to fall? Well, here's the physics (and the math)   (wired.com) divider line 64
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2013-05-07 08:02:46 AM  
Longer than it would have taken Luke to grab his lightsaber and slice the ankle joint?

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2013-05-07 09:39:04 AM  
Conclusion: the "video evidence" doesn't match the time it would take for an 18m AT-AT to collapse at free fall speed. Therefore, we can conclude that the "video evidence" was probably just fabricated by the Rebels (probably using CGI) as a false flag attack to get the justification to attack the second Death Star.

Wake up, sheeple.
 
2013-05-07 09:48:33 AM  
www.mediabistro.com
 
2013-05-07 09:49:36 AM  

cfletch13: Conclusion: the "video evidence" doesn't match the time it would take for an 18m AT-AT to collapse at free fall speed. Therefore, we can conclude that the "video evidence" was probably just fabricated by the Rebels (probably using CGI) as a false flag attack to get the justification to attack the second Death Star.

Wake up, sheeple.


I agree.  The three movies were definitely rebel-inspired propaganda films to further an agenda.  They focus on the leaders of the Empire, not even being that bad, compared to what others have done.  Sure, they destroyed a peaceful planet, but what government hasn't had collateral damage when fighting a foe.

Overall, I think we should take a more invasive look at what the Empire accomplished that was good.  Such as adding a police presence to a "hive of villainy and scum", reducing smuggling operations, etc.
 
2013-05-07 09:50:23 AM  

But Wait There's More: Longer than it would have taken Luke to grab his lightsaber and slice the ankle joint?

[i.imgur.com image 439x262]


but but tow cables

/yeah, the robot camels looked awesome but were so farking stupid.
 
2013-05-07 09:54:25 AM  
FTFA:
The center of mass of the AT-AT is not where you think it is. This could be the case if the legs were super massive. Why would they be so massive?

Actually, if the legs are mostly solid, and the body is mostly hollow, you could get a weight distribution like that, especially if you did that on purpose.

Consider this:  Height is an advantage, in that it lets you look and shoot over obstacles, but it's also an Achilles heel in that a very top-heavy AT-AT is going to be relatively easy to tip over, especially given the relatively narrow track of the legs.   Actually, it would be harder to *INITIATE* a tip-over due to inertia, but once it started, it would be much harder to stop with what I assume is the limited side-to-side mobility of the legs.

Making it more bottom-heavy, or at least moving the center of gravity as low as practical, would help in that regard.

That means the AT-ATs would be largely hollow and light-weight up top, as befits what is essentially a sauropodian armored personnel carrier.
 
2013-05-07 10:00:33 AM  

frepnog: But Wait There's More: Longer than it would have taken Luke to grab his lightsaber and slice the ankle joint?

[i.imgur.com image 439x262]

but but tow cables

/yeah, the robot camels looked awesome but were so farking stupid.


They were alright. They worked about as well as tanks. It was that lack of infantry bubble-wrap that did for them though.
 
2013-05-07 10:02:15 AM  
tdyak:
I agree.  The three movies were definitely rebel-inspired propaganda films to further an agenda.  They focus on the leaders of the Empire, not even being that bad, compared to what others have done.  Sure, they destroyed a peaceful planet, but what government hasn't had collateral damage when fighting a foe.

Like hell they destroyed a peaceful planet. They destroyed Alderaan, a system known for openly providing high level leaders, troops, ships, and material support to the Rebels. The only reason some of Alderaan's leaders weren't killed is because they were off-world at the time engaged in espionage and attempting to blackmail the Empire's veterans into joining their cause. Alderaan is guiltier than anyone.
 
2013-05-07 10:03:39 AM  

dittybopper: FTFA:
The center of mass of the AT-AT is not where you think it is. This could be the case if the legs were super massive. Why would they be so massive?

Actually, if the legs are mostly solid, and the body is mostly hollow, you could get a weight distribution like that, especially if you did that on purpose.

Consider this:  Height is an advantage, in that it lets you look and shoot over obstacles, but it's also an Achilles heel in that a very top-heavy AT-AT is going to be relatively easy to tip over, especially given the relatively narrow track of the legs.   Actually, it would be harder to *INITIATE* a tip-over due to inertia, but once it started, it would be much harder to stop with what I assume is the limited side-to-side mobility of the legs.

Making it more bottom-heavy, or at least moving the center of gravity as low as practical, would help in that regard.

That means the AT-ATs would be largely hollow and light-weight up top, as befits what is essentially a sauropodian armored personnel carrier.


Alternately, in order to make up for the issues with ground-pressure and balance, and so on, they used some sort of suspensor or anti-gravity system to make sure that they didn't lose traction, slip, or otherwise sink into the ground. It's not like the Empire lacked technology of that sort.
 
2013-05-07 10:08:21 AM  

Nurglitch: Alternately, in order to make up for the issues with ground-pressure and balance, and so on, they used some sort of suspensor or anti-gravity system to make sure that they didn't lose traction, slip, or otherwise sink into the ground. It's not like the Empire lacked technology of that sort.


This and Luke using the Force to slow himself for the fall are the "wizard did it" of SW movies. Can't it just be bad screenwriting/editing? Lack of research? Or perhaps the filmmakers really didn't need for us to see the full length of the fall, or your estimates are way off?
 
2013-05-07 10:11:05 AM  

But Wait There's More: Longer than it would have taken Luke to grab his lightsaber and slice the ankle joint?

[i.imgur.com image 439x262]


I kind of feel like the ability of lightsabers to cut through anything is something they only added into the prequels.  I remember in one of his lightsaber duals he swipes the blade right into Vader's shoulder and it just bounces off making a minor cut.
 
2013-05-07 10:16:00 AM  

frepnog: But Wait There's More: Longer than it would have taken Luke to grab his lightsaber and slice the ankle joint?

[i.imgur.com image 439x262]

but but tow cables

/yeah, the robot camels looked awesome but were so farking stupid.


It was one of the fun things in one of the EU books that some smart Imperial commander had been banished to some backwater for getting his AT-ATs to crouch down when attacked because of the legs being a potential weak spot and his superiors "blaming the messenger" for pointing out the vehicles obvious flaws - not to mention they presumably had a turning radius of about 50 miles, could only defend/attack in a very small arc, and seemed to pointlessly combine two functions (APC and Heavy Assault vehicle) to the detriment of it's efficiency in both roles.
 
2013-05-07 10:18:41 AM  
Someone has way too much free time. The answer is: Who the hell cares?
 
2013-05-07 10:22:14 AM  
I want seven hearings a week times fifty weeks!
 
2013-05-07 10:22:29 AM  
African or European?
 
2013-05-07 10:22:35 AM  

Dissociater: But Wait There's More: Longer than it would have taken Luke to grab his lightsaber and slice the ankle joint?

[i.imgur.com image 439x262]

I kind of feel like the ability of lightsabers to cut through anything is something they only added into the prequels.  I remember in one of his lightsaber duals he swipes the blade right into Vader's shoulder and it just bounces off making a minor cut.


That was explained in-universe.  There is a piece of ore that is lightsaber resistant so it is not surprising that Vader's armor would be coated or made of the stuff.  I mean, since the suit is what allows him to live, he or the Emperor would take every precaution affordable to do it.  To the common public to see his armor be nearly impenetrable by a lightsaber, a device known throughout the galaxy to be a very powerful tool indeed, would add another fear factor to Vader.

The suit is still subject to physical damage (heavy falls, impacts, etc), but since a lightsaber sears flesh upon contact, it makes sense to be made of something that can stop it.
 
2013-05-07 10:24:32 AM  
And you may ask, why didn't the Empire make EVERYTHING out of this ore?  It's the same reason we don't make everything out of gold.  It's cost prohibitive to mine, smelt and manufacture plus it's extremely rare.
 
2013-05-07 10:30:50 AM  

But Wait There's More: Longer than it would have taken Luke to grab his lightsaber and slice the ankle joint?


If he bothers you, I'll take care of him. What you've got to do is cut the hamstring on the back of his leg right at the bottom. He'll never attack a Rebel base again, because his weight displacement goes back, all his weight is on his right foot, and he'll push everything off to the right. He'll never come through on anything. He'll quit the game.
 
2013-05-07 10:31:45 AM  
People quibble over the design of these things, but it's pretty simple.  The rebels were freezing their asses off on a giant ice-ball, and seeing huge camels made them think of the desert and all the warmth they were missing by taking up their foolish cause.

I don't know how the camel design would help elsewhere in the galaxy, but the Empire psych department was really top notch for that particular attack.
 
2013-05-07 10:34:55 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Nurglitch: Alternately, in order to make up for the issues with ground-pressure and balance, and so on, they used some sort of suspensor or anti-gravity system to make sure that they didn't lose traction, slip, or otherwise sink into the ground. It's not like the Empire lacked technology of that sort.

This and Luke using the Force to slow himself for the fall are the "wizard did it" of SW movies. Can't it just be bad screenwriting/editing? Lack of research? Or perhaps the filmmakers really didn't need for us to see the full length of the fall, or your estimates are way off?


Of course it can be bad screenwriting/editing, or 'bad' model-work, or simply not giving a fark about versimiltude. However, if you want to have this conversation you have to assume otherwise and move on. So pointing out that the technologies and physics involved may not be easily hand-waved away isn't saying "A wizard did it," it's saying "Hey, maybe we should think a little more about the universe under consideration before assuming a spherical cow."

So, back to in-universe considerations:

Luke couldn't use the Force to slow his fall. Because he hadn't learned how to use it yet. He goes to learn that after escaping Hoth. It's kind of a plot-point that he doesn't have much control even after training with Yoda.
 
2013-05-07 10:35:20 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: tdyak:
I agree.  The three movies were definitely rebel-inspired propaganda films to further an agenda.  They focus on the leaders of the Empire, not even being that bad, compared to what others have done.  Sure, they destroyed a peaceful planet, but what government hasn't had collateral damage when fighting a foe.

Like hell they destroyed a peaceful planet. They destroyed Alderaan, a system known for openly providing high level leaders, troops, ships, and material support to the Rebels. The only reason some of Alderaan's leaders weren't killed is because they were off-world at the time engaged in espionage and attempting to blackmail the Empire's veterans into joining their cause. Alderaan is guiltier than anyone.


Let's not forget that the Death Star supposedly destroyed Alderaan with a single hyperlaser blast

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OK, do you have any idea how much energy it would require to make a planet that size EXPLODE?

I would understand if the hyperlaser bored a hole into Alderaan's planetary core, and caused a breakup of the planet.  That's plausible.

But to hit the planet with a single beam weapon strike powerful enough to make it instantaneously explode?

No way.

This was an inside job.  A false flag to gain sympathy for the Rebel cause.

I've conducted some experiments of my own.

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i18.photobucket.com

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Conclusion: the Death Star could not have caused the destruction of Alderaan, according to the official story.  IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
 
2013-05-07 10:39:19 AM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: tdyak:
I agree.  The three movies were definitely rebel-inspired propaganda films to further an agenda.  They focus on the leaders of the Empire, not even being that bad, compared to what others have done.  Sure, they destroyed a peaceful planet, but what government hasn't had collateral damage when fighting a foe.

Like hell they destroyed a peaceful planet. They destroyed Alderaan, a system known for openly providing high level leaders, troops, ships, and material support to the Rebels. The only reason some of Alderaan's leaders weren't killed is because they were off-world at the time engaged in espionage and attempting to blackmail the Empire's veterans into joining their cause. Alderaan is guiltier than anyone.


This. They were like the Kandahar province of the Star Wars universe.
 
2013-05-07 10:40:16 AM  

Nurglitch: Luke couldn't use the Force to slow his fall. Because he hadn't learned how to use it yet. He goes to learn that after escaping Hoth. It's kind of a plot-point that he doesn't have much control even after training with Yoda.


How'd he telekinetically pull his lightsaber to his hand in the Wampa's cave, then?
 
2013-05-07 10:43:26 AM  
dittybopper:

Making it more bottom-heavy, or at least moving the center of gravity as low as practical, would help in that regard.

That means the AT-ATs would be largely hollow and light-weight up top, as befits what is essentially a sauropodian armored personnel carrier.


Came here for this. You've done the New Republic a great service today.
 
2013-05-07 10:44:01 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Nurglitch: Luke couldn't use the Force to slow his fall. Because he hadn't learned how to use it yet. He goes to learn that after escaping Hoth. It's kind of a plot-point that he doesn't have much control even after training with Yoda.

How'd he telekinetically pull his lightsaber to his hand in the Wampa's cave, then?


Also, doesn't he Force-touch a be-Tauntauned Han to come get him after he escapes the Wampa's cave?

// I thought they smelled bad
//
//
//
//
//
// on the outside
 
2013-05-07 10:46:20 AM  
The real problem as I see it is that the Empire keeps spending its money on idiotic military equipment.  The first death star was destroyed and what do they do?  Build a second one.

These AT-ATs are cumbersome beasts that are easy targets and the empire uses them regardless of less expensive more practical options available.  Don't even get me started on the TIE fighters.  They should be renamed Die fighters.
 
2013-05-07 10:47:30 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Nurglitch: Luke couldn't use the Force to slow his fall. Because he hadn't learned how to use it yet. He goes to learn that after escaping Hoth. It's kind of a plot-point that he doesn't have much control even after training with Yoda.

How'd he telekinetically pull his lightsaber to his hand in the Wampa's cave, then?


Actually that's a great point. Given a second thought or three I would have also said: How come Luke didn't break any bones during that fall? Good evidence that he was able to use the force to cushion his fall.
 
2013-05-07 10:52:30 AM  

Kristoph57: dittybopper:

Making it more bottom-heavy, or at least moving the center of gravity as low as practical, would help in that regard.

That means the AT-ATs would be largely hollow and light-weight up top, as befits what is essentially a sauropodian armored personnel carrier.

Came here for this. You've done the New Republic a great service today.


Not to mention air resistance, which the author completely ignores.
 
2013-05-07 10:54:57 AM  
Parthenogenetic:

I never thought about that before.  The truth of Alderaan comes out.

Even less sympathy for the rebellion now.

The story of a wholesome farm boy who dreams of leaving for the academy.  He gives up his dreams of school to join a rebellion against the government.  Tricked into studying an ancient religion that favors peace above violence by giving out one of the most effective and destructive tools of all, the same religion that destroyed his father, by the same man who taught his father.  Ignoring basic safety precautions (no face shields or life support systems in the ships), he flies manned fighters against a government installation bent on keeping peace between the planets.  He is the sole destroyer of said government installation, ignoring the cost or burden to taxpayers.  Twice.

We shall ignore the question of the innocence of the contractors working on the second, they knew the risk.
 
2013-05-07 11:00:57 AM  

Nurglitch: Parthenogenetic: Nurglitch: Luke couldn't use the Force to slow his fall. Because he hadn't learned how to use it yet. He goes to learn that after escaping Hoth. It's kind of a plot-point that he doesn't have much control even after training with Yoda.

How'd he telekinetically pull his lightsaber to his hand in the Wampa's cave, then?

Actually that's a great point. Given a second thought or three I would have also said: How come Luke didn't break any bones during that fall? Good evidence that he was able to use the force to cushion his fall.


I always attributed that to his falling on snow, which can have a great cushioning effect.
 
2013-05-07 11:26:44 AM  

dittybopper: Nurglitch: Parthenogenetic: Nurglitch: Luke couldn't use the Force to slow his fall. Because he hadn't learned how to use it yet. He goes to learn that after escaping Hoth. It's kind of a plot-point that he doesn't have much control even after training with Yoda.

How'd he telekinetically pull his lightsaber to his hand in the Wampa's cave, then?

Actually that's a great point. Given a second thought or three I would have also said: How come Luke didn't break any bones during that fall? Good evidence that he was able to use the force to cushion his fall.

I always attributed that to his falling on snow, which can have a great cushioning effect.


If the snow was so soft and cushiony, why didn't the AT-AT's legs sink into it?

The weight of the AT-AT would be concentrated into the relatively small contact area of its feet.  That's a tremendous amount of pressure, yet the feet remained on the surface of the ground --- indicating that it was a hard, frozen mass.


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And here is the very AT-AT that Luke Skywalker destroyed, mere seconds before he dropped down from its underbelly.  I don't see any drifts or great mass of cushiony snow under the AT-AT, do you?

i2.listal.com

WAKE UP, BANTHEEPLE!
 
2013-05-07 11:39:35 AM  
One shot in just the right place underneath it's head

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Only problem is that as you destroy each one, they keep coming on faster and faster until it's impossible to destroy them fast enough before they get close enough to destroy the generators.  And then you die.
 
2013-05-07 11:41:24 AM  
What's the level of gravity on that planet? It wouldn't have to fall at the earths gravity acceleration.

Besides, has anybody realized what the fi part of sci-fi stands for? It's not exactly a documentary.
 
2013-05-07 11:45:42 AM  
Wasn't it generally accepted that most of the Empire's equipment was designed principally to install fear in whoever opposed them with only a nod towards practicality?

The Death Star similarly makes very little sense when you could build another fleet of 'reasonably priced' Star Destroyers for the same mineral costs.  Same with the Executioner and other super SD's... it's really scary to see it heading towards you... but it's not super effective at anything else.

I figured the AT-AT's were in the same category.
 
2013-05-07 11:46:36 AM  

Parthenogenetic: If the snow was so soft and cushiony, why didn't the AT-AT's legs sink into it?

The weight of the AT-AT would be concentrated into the relatively small contact area of its feet.  That's a tremendous amount of pressure, yet the feet remained on the surface of the ground --- indicating that it was a hard, frozen mass.

And here is the very AT-AT that Luke Skywalker destroyed, mere seconds before he dropped down from its underbelly.  I don't see any drifts or great mass of cushiony snow under the AT-AT, do you?

WAKE UP, BANTHEEPLE!


No man, you're not looking deep enough. Other than one Rebel propaganda film do we have any evidence that the battle took place at all? Are we really supposed to believe that snowspeeders held off an Imperial assault and an entire fleet in orbit couldn't stop some transports? Seriously, the small inconsistencies, a dude supposedly takes out an AT-AT all by himself, I mean Jesus, the whole thing looks like it was filmed on a sound stage. North Korea's propaganda is more believable than this crap.
 
2013-05-07 11:47:12 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Nurglitch: Luke couldn't use the Force to slow his fall. Because he hadn't learned how to use it yet. He goes to learn that after escaping Hoth. It's kind of a plot-point that he doesn't have much control even after training with Yoda.

How'd he telekinetically pull his lightsaber to his hand in the Wampa's cave, then?


Look at the effort it required just to do that.  He barely managed it, and I would think that would have been a much easier task than attempting to stop his own fall from a much greater height.
 
2013-05-07 11:49:06 AM  

Vaneshi: Wasn't it generally accepted that most of the Empire's equipment was designed principally to install fear in whoever opposed them with only a nod towards practicality?

The Death Star similarly makes very little sense when you could build another fleet of 'reasonably priced' Star Destroyers for the same mineral costs.  Same with the Executioner and other super SD's... it's really scary to see it heading towards you... but it's not super effective at anything else.

I figured the AT-AT's were in the same category.


That's what I would say.  There was no military force in the known galaxy capable of standing against the Empire.  They had long since switched into peacekeeping-through-fear mode.
 
2013-05-07 11:55:26 AM  

Parthenogenetic: dittybopper: Nurglitch: Parthenogenetic: Nurglitch: Luke couldn't use the Force to slow his fall. Because he hadn't learned how to use it yet. He goes to learn that after escaping Hoth. It's kind of a plot-point that he doesn't have much control even after training with Yoda.

How'd he telekinetically pull his lightsaber to his hand in the Wampa's cave, then?

Actually that's a great point. Given a second thought or three I would have also said: How come Luke didn't break any bones during that fall? Good evidence that he was able to use the force to cushion his fall.

I always attributed that to his falling on snow, which can have a great cushioning effect.

If the snow was so soft and cushiony, why didn't the AT-AT's legs sink into it?

The weight of the AT-AT would be concentrated into the relatively small contact area of its feet.  That's a tremendous amount of pressure, yet the feet remained on the surface of the ground --- indicating that it was a hard, frozen mass.


[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x480]

And here is the very AT-AT that Luke Skywalker destroyed, mere seconds before he dropped down from its underbelly.  I don't see any drifts or great mass of cushiony snow under the AT-AT, do you?

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WAKE UP, BANTHEEPLE!


It's an issue of scale:  There could be a cushion of 2 feet of snow, but because the AT-ATs are so large, you just don't notice how far they sink, and that might be enough to break the fall.

We actually don't know much about the snow on Hoth.  Perhaps it's non-Newtownian.  We only *ASSUME* it's like Earth snow.
 
2013-05-07 12:03:17 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Parthenogenetic: If the snow was so soft and cushiony, why didn't the AT-AT's legs sink into it?

The weight of the AT-AT would be concentrated into the relatively small contact area of its feet.  That's a tremendous amount of pressure, yet the feet remained on the surface of the ground --- indicating that it was a hard, frozen mass.

And here is the very AT-AT that Luke Skywalker destroyed, mere seconds before he dropped down from its underbelly.  I don't see any drifts or great mass of cushiony snow under the AT-AT, do you?

WAKE UP, BANTHEEPLE!

No man, you're not looking deep enough. Other than one Rebel propaganda film do we have any evidence that the battle took place at all? Are we really supposed to believe that snowspeeders held off an Imperial assault and an entire fleet in orbit couldn't stop some transports? Seriously, the small inconsistencies, a dude supposedly takes out an AT-AT all by himself, I mean Jesus, the whole thing looks like it was filmed on a sound stage. North Korea's propaganda is more believable than this crap.


It goes deeper than that, friend.

Have you noticed that there's MULTIPLE VERSIONS of these propaganda films? The explosions in later ones are obviously boosted. It's like they decided they weren't convincing enough. I'd be surprised if any of that stuff ever existed, it's all models. They just whip the people into a fervor so we forget that they're taking our money, pouring it into the military-industrial complex, and trying to get us not just content, but HAPPY that they replaced an elected government with a religious extremist junta.
 
2013-05-07 12:04:04 PM  
Also, he went to Yoda to learn control over his Force powers, not to create them. When falling, it's likely he cushioned his landing with a 'panic burst'.

This was plainly obvious to me as a child, y'all.
 
2013-05-07 12:08:16 PM  
So, just to be clear: we've completely given up on even bothering to try and cure cancer, right?
 
2013-05-07 12:13:37 PM  
I wish i could remember the Farker's name who made this- it's been at least five years ...

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2013-05-07 12:19:54 PM  

drake113: So, just to be clear: we've completely given up on even bothering to try and cure cancer, right?


Cancer can't be cured, just like heresy.

/can only be purged... WITH FIRE
 
2013-05-07 12:27:07 PM  
I wish I had this kind of free time in my life. *sigh*
 
2013-05-07 12:32:48 PM  
This is why math education in our country sucks.  The teacher thinks they are being clever and turns every lesson into a ridiculous word problem like this to try and make the lesson memorable and easier to learn.  When instead it is the exact opposite.  The teacher stumbles through tangent after tangent, as they indulge themselves in nerdy circling the initial problem, when the student has already answered it, not in numbers, but with a resounding, " I don't care."
 
2013-05-07 12:43:37 PM  
In other news...how have I never encountered the page they linked!?!

http://www.merzo.net

/there goes my lunch hour
 
2013-05-07 01:00:00 PM  
All I think when I watch that scene is that the AT-ATs had real estate on the hull for some Anti Aircraft lasers.   That would have been really helpful if you were to send em against a base on a planet which you can guarantee has some kind of aircraft in it.
 
2013-05-07 01:01:38 PM  

Gergesa: The real problem as I see it is that the Empire keeps spending its money on idiotic military equipment.  The first death star was destroyed and what do they do?  Build a second one.

These AT-ATs are cumbersome beasts that are easy targets and the empire uses them regardless of less expensive more practical options available.  Don't even get me started on the TIE fighters.  They should be renamed Die fighters.


The second Death Star eliminated the weaknesses of the first and expanded on its strengths. If it had been finished it would have been invincible, which is why the Rebels had to destroy it while it was under construction. Which was Palpatine's entire plan, give the Rebels something that they HAD to deal with in order to draw them out and crush them. And afterwards the Empire has an invincible battle station to waltz around the galaxy and murder planets with.
 
2013-05-07 01:20:23 PM  

SithLord: Dissociater: But Wait There's More: Longer than it would have taken Luke to grab his lightsaber and slice the ankle joint?

[i.imgur.com image 439x262]

I kind of feel like the ability of lightsabers to cut through anything is something they only added into the prequels.  I remember in one of his lightsaber duals he swipes the blade right into Vader's shoulder and it just bounces off making a minor cut.

That was explained in-universe.  There is a piece of ore that is lightsaber resistant so it is not surprising that Vader's armor would be coated or made of the stuff.  I mean, since the suit is what allows him to live, he or the Emperor would take every precaution affordable to do it.  To the common public to see his armor be nearly impenetrable by a lightsaber, a device known throughout the galaxy to be a very powerful tool indeed, would add another fear factor to Vader.

The suit is still subject to physical damage (heavy falls, impacts, etc), but since a lightsaber sears flesh upon contact, it makes sense to be made of something that can stop it.


Cortosis Ore - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cortosis
 
2013-05-07 01:58:06 PM  
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Why didn't I include this when I first wrote this?  I have no idea.  Here is further evidence to support my claim that the AT-AT is much shorter than they claim.  This plot shows the angle vs. time data from the actual movie along with the times for three different length numerical models.
 
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