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(The Big Story) NewsFlash US Senate passes Internet Sales Tax Bill. Why? Because fark you, that's why   (bigstory.ap.org) divider line 34
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2013-05-06 09:46:31 PM
7 votes:
Also, I uhhhh.... I live in Texas. Yeah, Texas.

My name is Judy and I was just giving an example and definitely didn't just admit to tax evasion.
2013-05-06 10:10:06 PM
4 votes:
Does TF cost $5.30 now?
2013-05-06 10:31:01 PM
3 votes:
This is where the people who think everyone needs to pay their fair share figure out they'd rather not pay their fair share.
2013-05-06 10:21:24 PM
3 votes:

Vodka Zombie: basemetal: I thought you guys liked taxes....

I like society and civilization and all the wonderful trappings that come along with it.

Like roads and bridges and, yes, parks.


I'm with  Vodka Zombie on the roads and bridges, but I also like the thought of all the Fark Independents™, tax protestors, and self-made millionaires (what with their bootstraps and nobody never giving them nothin') having to pay taxes like good little citizens.

And when I say enjoy, I mean "aroused by." Yeah, that's right, let me hear you scream, you middle-class biatches. Get ready to take all eleven marginal percent right up your tight little tax hole.
2013-05-06 10:21:50 PM
2 votes:
Remember, They aren't tracking YOUR dildo.

Just A dildo.
2013-05-06 10:14:51 PM
2 votes:
We need to pass a bill that requires brick and mortar retailers to hold onto a product for two days (i.e. shipping time) before a customer can pick up their item in order to create equality between retailers & etailers.

/equality my ass
2013-05-06 09:11:20 PM
2 votes:
You already have to pay tax on the items you buy from out of state vendors that do not collect sales tax if those items would be taxable in your state. Use tax, not sales tax is what it is called. I file my return and pay the tax quarterly as required by my state of residence, Florida.

If you live in Deleware, Montana or Oregon you have no state sales or use tax. All others should be paying their use tax as the law requires unless the vendor collects it.

This will not raise your tax burden one cent. It will however create an accounting nightmare for the sellers and many smaller sellers will simply close. Those that remain open will have higher tax compliance costs and will pass those costs along to the consumer.

If you people had paid your taxes all along like you're supposed to you wouldn't be facing this problem. Quill v. North Dakota was not litigated to save you from paying the tax you rightfully owe, it was litigated so Quill and retailers similarly situated wouldn't be required to comply with tax laws in jurisdictions in which they have no nexus.

TLDR version - you already owe these taxes, you don't pay them. Now they want businesses to collect them because you won't pay voluntarily and prices will go up. Pay your taxes deadbeats.
2013-05-07 04:30:58 AM
1 votes:
Speaking as a bleeding heart liberal from Washington State (The state with the most regressive tax code in the nation. Ha! Eat it Mississippi!), I say fark this. An initiative here tried to get a state income tax going instead of the insane 9.8% sales tax and it was rejected because the ads basically said, "If rich people have to pay taxes, they'll come for you next!" and all the idiots fell for it because, you know, "taxes," "job creators," "tree of liberty," and all that. Sales taxes hurt the poor and middle class. I have to say, on this one, I'm totally rooting for... HOUSE REPUBLICANS?!? *etthhiicckkkkaaaaadhhfffhdggghhhhhhh* Sorry, almost swallowed my tongue there for a second.
2013-05-07 01:00:11 AM
1 votes:
hey you guys are all ignorant and retarded. FROM A TOTAL FARK TROLL THATS A COMPLIMENT

GOT AN IDEA? TAX THE RICH.
can't tax them?

BEAT THEM TO DEATH WITH LACROSSE EQUIPMENT
2013-05-07 12:49:37 AM
1 votes:

pedrop357: dumbobruni: pedrop357: Hopefully amazon.com starts putting more of those lockers and similar delivery receptacles in states like Montana, Oregon, New Hampshire, etc.

I'll plan my big purchases and have them waiting for me.  I'll visit Oregon once to twice a year to pick up expensive things.  Even if it doesn't quite work out money wise, the spite/fark you factor to my state will make it worth it to me.

in order to avoid paying more sales tax to your state, you will just pay more gas tax to your state.

makes perfect sense.

Only a little.  I have a diesel car ('12 Passat TDI) and could do a Las Vegas-Oregon trip on one tank if I keep a reasonable speed.

Even the extra fuel tax for two fillups wouldn't come close to what I would pay in sales tax of my 3 largest purchases this year (and those weren't much in the scheme of things.)


don't biatch and complain when your state's services suffer.

/who am I kidding? you are probably the first to complain about it.
2013-05-06 11:23:53 PM
1 votes:

davidphogan: tallguywithglasseson: Supporters say the bill makes it relatively easy for Internet retailers to comply. States must provide free computer software to help retailers calculate sales taxes, based on where shoppers live. States must also establish a single entity to receive Internet sales tax revenue, so retailers don't have to send it to individual counties or cities.

Weird, that's right in TFA.

Free software and a single place to mail the check still doesn't cover the cost of cutting each of those checks, the extra time the accountant spends making sure those checks are sent for the right amount to the right place, the integration of said software into the existing payment system, or any number of other costs that businesses will now be incurred, even if they operate out of a location that doesn't have any local sales tax.  Hell, I can go into Washington State and show my Oregon ID and not pay sales tax there, either, cause they're nice like that.

I personally am not an internet retailer, and I still won't pay sales tax even after this goes into effect, but I have a few friends that have internet based businesses who will be effected by this.  Since I do IT consulting for one of them, and she was talking to me about the costs if this goes into effect that she'll have to account for, I guess I do have an opinion about this.

It's gonna make me some money, and that is good.  But it's at the expense of my friend so that other states can make her collect their money for them, which I don't like so much.


stdext::hash_map<const std::string&, double> StateToHowMuchCheddarWeOweEm;

void AddMuddafugginTaxes (const std::string& StateAbbr, double TaxOnThisPurchase)
{
StateToHowMuchCheddarWeOweEm[StateAbbr].second += TaxOnThisPurchase ;
}

run a report at the end of the month. Cut the check. Send to the states.
2013-05-06 11:19:47 PM
1 votes:
Man, this is really going to drive up the prices on my Silk Road purchases.
2013-05-06 11:17:19 PM
1 votes:
It's good that a business won't get taxed below one million dollars in sales, but will they take into account the overhead? Equipment, employees, materials... Not everyone is selling cheap crap. And this isn't the 60's.

thinkingscifi.files.wordpress.com
2013-05-06 11:06:28 PM
1 votes:

Gonz: And, if you want to play that out, this will be... less regressive. It'll still be according-to-Hoyle regressive, of course. But it's not like the urban poor have been making out like bandits by avoiding online sales tax. It shifts a slight bit of tax burden to middle and upper-middle class, primarily suburban, consumers. It's not really going to bother the 1%, it's not going to really be an issue for the bottom 20%. For the rest of us- we get to pitch in and pay our share for civilization. Fair enough.


i.imgur.com
2013-05-06 10:56:37 PM
1 votes:
- Benghazi
- Dijon Mustard
- ACORN
- Internet Sales Tax

Just adding another item to the list of reasons Taxbongo should be impeached.  Don't mind me.

Just like liberals don't mind showering.  LOL!!!  Get owned, stupid libs.  Get owned.
2013-05-06 10:45:54 PM
1 votes:
We live in 'Because F U times'.
2013-05-06 10:43:15 PM
1 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com
2013-05-06 10:39:01 PM
1 votes:
homeschooled:
Raise your hand if you answered $0 when your state tax return asked the dollar amount of out of state or online purchases that you owed taxes on

What the hell is a state income tax return?
www.united-states-flag.com

Very concerned about not getting Texas Sales Tax Exemption Certificate not honored by some web seller in East B*ttFark. What an excellent bureacracy the Senate wants to create.

Since Congress told the airports to spend wildly until they run out this summer, that's their one bill this year. They should quit while they're ahead.
2013-05-06 10:34:31 PM
1 votes:
"States lost a total of $23 billion last year because they couldn't collect taxes on out-of-state sales, according to a study done for the National Conference of State Legislatures."

Yes some study. Multiplying Internet sales by ten percent. The study probably cost 8 million dollars.
2013-05-06 10:32:48 PM
1 votes:

clancifer: Good.


www.charlock.org
2013-05-06 10:28:00 PM
1 votes:

Nuclear Monk: It's entitled to the tax because you live there, use its roads, its schools, its police force, its fire departments, its state parks, and countless other services


that's a lot of dildoes
2013-05-06 10:27:59 PM
1 votes:
www.charlock.org
2013-05-06 10:25:05 PM
1 votes:
Nobody worry.  I just got an email stating that Bill Gates (and you know he's got a mountain of money) will pay the sales tax on my Internet purchases for the next 20 years if I forward the email to 10 of my friends.  Apparently Microsoft has some new email tracking system, and when I just tested it out, guess what?  No sales taxes on my purchase.  So send me an email (my username @ gmail) with photos of your genitals and I'll forward the email from Bill Gates to you.
2013-05-06 10:21:38 PM
1 votes:
YEAs ---69

Alexander (R-TN)
Baldwin (D-WI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Cowan (D-MA)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thune (R-SD)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)


NAYs ---27

Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Coburn (R-OK)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Flake (R-AZ)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kirk (R-IL)
Lee (R-UT)
McConnell (R-KY)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Paul (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wyden (D-OR)


Not Voting - 4

Begich (D-AK)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Moran (R-KS)
2013-05-06 10:15:37 PM
1 votes:

Funk Brothers: It will never pass the House just calm down everyone. There won't be an internet sales tax imposed in most states in the near future.


fark YES I HATE REVENUE WHO NEEDS IT ANYWAY WE'RE GODDAMN FLUSH SOMEBODY START FIXING BRIDGES
2013-05-06 10:15:35 PM
1 votes:

feckingmorons: You already have to pay tax on the items you buy from out of state vendors that do not collect sales tax if those items would be taxable in your state. Use tax, not sales tax is what it is called. I file my return and pay the tax quarterly as required by my state of residence, Florida.

If you live in Deleware, Montana or Oregon you have no state sales or use tax. All others should be paying their use tax as the law requires unless the vendor collects it.

This will not raise your tax burden one cent. It will however create an accounting nightmare for the sellers and many smaller sellers will simply close. Those that remain open will have higher tax compliance costs and will pass those costs along to the consumer.

If you people had paid your taxes all along like you're supposed to you wouldn't be facing this problem. Quill v. North Dakota was not litigated to save you from paying the tax you rightfully owe, it was litigated so Quill and retailers similarly situated wouldn't be required to comply with tax laws in jurisdictions in which they have no nexus.

TLDR version - you already owe these taxes, you don't pay them. Now they want businesses to collect them because you won't pay voluntarily and prices will go up. Pay your taxes deadbeats.


Damn right.  Personally I buy all my stuff from Best Buy, anyway, because it has far less stuff than amazon does at twice the price, and I get to take it home right then.  Amazon should have to pay tax on top of the shipping costs because it isn't fair.
2013-05-06 10:11:37 PM
1 votes:
Democrats passed it.  Because paying more for everything is a great idea.
2013-05-06 09:56:19 PM
1 votes:
So does this mean they're gonna start going after other tax evasion? Or is it like the airport thing where it's still more important to not inconvenience the upper class?
2013-05-06 09:51:28 PM
1 votes:

basemetal: I thought you guys liked taxes....


That was when the $250k and up were paying them.  This here tax affects everybody who buys stuff on the internet.
2013-05-06 09:49:28 PM
1 votes:
I thought you guys liked taxes....
2013-05-06 09:49:05 PM
1 votes:

feckingmorons: You already have to pay tax on the items you buy from out of state vendors that do not collect sales tax if those items would be taxable in your state. Use tax, not sales tax is what it is called. I file my return and pay the tax quarterly as required by my state of residence, Florida.

If you live in Deleware, Montana or Oregon you have no state sales or use tax. All others should be paying their use tax as the law requires unless the vendor collects it.

This will not raise your tax burden one cent. It will however create an accounting nightmare for the sellers and many smaller sellers will simply close. Those that remain open will have higher tax compliance costs and will pass those costs along to the consumer.

If you people had paid your taxes all along like you're supposed to you wouldn't be facing this problem. Quill v. North Dakota was not litigated to save you from paying the tax you rightfully owe, it was litigated so Quill and retailers similarly situated wouldn't be required to comply with tax laws in jurisdictions in which they have no nexus.

TLDR version - you already owe these taxes, you don't pay them. Now they want businesses to collect them because you won't pay voluntarily and prices will go up. Pay your taxes deadbeats.


Catalog sales have traditionally been excluded from the state and local sales taxes. (with the exception that the sale company has a physical store in your state). (and I should say most states as some paper catalogs add taxes to certain states).

It seems this law is redefining what a 'physical store' is..meaning a internet store that takes over the internet is subject.

My question would be does the company that collects such state taxes on internet sells actually give those to the state and what gaggle of oversight to look at those sales would be in place. If I order a item and pay 20 cents in state tax---is that state tax actually going to the state each year? Would this also conflict with interstate commerce----would your hammocks you purchased in Mexico be subject to federal tax? After you reach the duty free limit? Or do you ignore that and just go on through customs?


It would be intresting to see if called up the store on the phone instead of using 'internet' which law would apply?
2013-05-06 09:44:51 PM
1 votes:
Raise your hand if you answered $0 when your state tax return asked the dollar amount of out of state or online purchases that you owed taxes on.

*raises hand*

Now, how many of you were willing to pay those taxes, but just had no f*cking clue how to go about figuring out exactly what you need to pay, therefore you broke the law and evaded the taxes because you know you'll never get caught?

*raises hand*

This is why I'm OK with business collecting them. Because if you leave it up to me, sh*t isn't going to get done. I'm lazy and unorganized. But I am willing to pay it if it doesn't involve another step in filing my tax returns, and possibly getting audited.
2013-05-06 09:12:50 PM
1 votes:
Good.
2013-05-06 08:59:46 PM
1 votes:
This is another example of why we are farked.
Politicians do not do what constituents want.
They do what big money wants, or they do something that will allow them to take in more of our cash so they can spend it on shiat constituents don't want.
 
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