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(Washington Post)   Special Ops were told not to respond to Benghazi attacks. It might actually be a scandal now   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 681
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2013-05-07 01:33:21 AM  

log_jammin: there's so much derp in this thread that I don't know where to start.


Begin at the beginning, and go on until you get to the end. Then stop.
 
2013-05-07 01:33:28 AM  

I Said: Let's say the GOP and their tinfoil brigade is correct: what was the motive again? Is it still that Obama is a muslim usurper?

What motive would the president have to, seemingly according to the right, withhold protection and drag their feet and laugh maniacally while the embassy was attacked?


The same as the conspiracy of Judas Priest encouraging their fans to kill themselves (instead of, as Rob Halford suggests BUYING MORE JUDAS PRIEST MERCH) they're just plain evil and they do it for Satan and badness and because they're just plain BAD!
 
2013-05-07 01:35:36 AM  

MyRandomName: cman: When you go on witch hunts you leave not until you find your witch.

TBH, this really aint shiat. This is what is called "reaching".

It is not reaching. Actual documents show reports of al queda links were scrubbed from reports clinton told congress there were no terrorist links until sept 23. She was on a memo for al queda links on sept 11. She lied. Why do liberals ignore this. The administration lied publicly, arrested tbe movie maker, for what? Election year politics.


So they didn't immediately release all the details of an investigation still in progress, trying perhaps, maybe, just possibly, not giving away to the bad guys exactly what they knew? Wow -- what a scandal!! You're so f*cking dense you could probably stop a .50 caliber slug with your thick skull. Oh, and have you actually seen these "actual documents?"
 
2013-05-07 01:37:31 AM  

Gyrfalcon: log_jammin: there's so much derp in this thread that I don't know where to start.

Begin at the beginning, and go on until you get to the end. Then stop.


wait a minute. let me write this down...
 
2013-05-07 01:37:35 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: NewportBarGuy: DamnYankees: I Said: What motive would the president have to, seemingly according to the right, withhold protection and drag their feet and laugh maniacally while the embassy was attacked?

Democrats are cowards who are afraid to use military force.

You're gonna get a lot of hits with that. Nice.

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Reminds me of a dad of a friend I went to school with.  He'd say, "There's never been a democrat in office who hasn't gotten us into war."  My how times change.


So, did he think Pearl Harbor was a plot orchestrated by FDR to fabricate an excuse for war, or did he think that was not a sufficient reason to go to war?  It's gotta be one of the two.
 
2013-05-07 01:39:22 AM  

RevMercutio: log_jammin: there's so much derp in this thread that I don't know where to start.

Start by not financially supporting the site until they finally do something about the farking trolls.


"Ignore posts from unignored users that mention users on your ignore list(Exact match of bolded names)"

check.
 
2013-05-07 01:39:32 AM  

Gyrfalcon: log_jammin: there's so much derp in this thread that I don't know where to start.

Begin at the beginning, and go on until you get to the end. Then stop.


i.imgur.com

Go that way...real fast. If something gets in your way, turn.
 
2013-05-07 01:39:40 AM  

randomjsa: It was a scandal before unless you think it's a-ok for Obama to tell bald faced lies in order to cover his rear before the election.

Which most liberals do. They would rather have Obama, whose incompetence led to Benghazi, and who tried to cover it up and lie about it than face the possibility of him not getting reelected. Everything is justified so long as liberals keep the White House.

This from the people who constantly prattle on about how Republicans put 'party before country'. As always you will know liberals by what they accuse others of.


So the Republicans, who voted in favor of cutting security at embassies before the attacks, are blameless then? Tell me another tale of your courageous, patriot heroes!

Then tell me the one about President Obama ordering SEAL Team-6 to stand down to try and spare Bin Laden's life!
 
2013-05-07 01:44:38 AM  

Empty Matchbook: I Said: Let's say the GOP and their tinfoil brigade is correct: what was the motive again? Is it still that Obama is a muslim usurper?

What motive would the president have to, seemingly according to the right, withhold protection and drag their feet and laugh maniacally while the embassy was attacked?

The same as the conspiracy of Judas Priest encouraging their fans to kill themselves (instead of, as Rob Halford suggests BUYING MORE JUDAS PRIEST MERCH) they're just plain evil and they do it for Satan and badness and because they're just plain BAD!



The other day, I was talking to someone about Jeff Hanneman. My friend asked "Remember when people were screaming about Slayer putting in Satanic backwards messages? Was any of that true?"
I had to respond "Does it matter? Their forward messages seemed to get the point across."

By the way, what's up with the full troll press in this thread? Is this some kind of Fark Independent Hunger Games where the winner gets a glass of Glenn Beck's pee or something?
 
2013-05-07 01:45:17 AM  
It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.
 
2013-05-07 01:46:12 AM  

zenobia: dr_blasto:Are the Republicans covering up for their refusal to fund security for the State Dept?

The definitive questions. I still haven't heard any definitive answers to them.


=

I don't actually blame the House for cutting back on State Dept. funding in itself. There aren't unlimited funds and prioritization does need to happen. That's why I thought Iraq was a bad idea---it became this huge suck for military and civilian government resources that meant everyone else had to go lean to compensate. What bothers me is that they voted to cut security funding for the State Dept. and now refuse to accept responsibility for the security failures in the name of fiscal conservatism. I could at least respect a "hindsight is 20/20" argument like the State Department's self-critical report said.
 
2013-05-07 01:46:14 AM  
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2013-05-07 01:48:17 AM  

OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.


Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.
 
2013-05-07 01:49:11 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.


He explains the scandal in the last sentence.
 
2013-05-07 01:50:04 AM  

OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.


"B-b-b-but Bush!"
 
2013-05-07 01:51:55 AM  

OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.


clearly both sides are bad
 
2013-05-07 01:53:50 AM  
I, for one, LOVE Benghazi.  It is the greatest.  It somehow gets the derpiest Republican 30% of the country all worked up in a lather and hyperventilating, while the other 70% totally tunes it out.  It gives Fox News and talk radio something to circle jerk about all day without them causing any real damage.  As a Democrat, you couldn't craft a better diversion if you tried.
 
2013-05-07 01:54:50 AM  

log_jammin: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

clearly both sides are bad


So vote for Pat Buchanan?
 
2013-05-07 01:55:30 AM  

OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.


Making up a bullshiat story that leads to Congress voting to go to an unnecessary war, resulting in the deaths of thousands of American men and women is scandalous.

What's the scandal with Benghazi? Not sending in the SEALs hours after everyone at the Benghazi consulate was dead? The State Department giving too much creedence that it may have been a protest over an anti-muslim video on a day when the Middle East saw several protests over an anti-muslim video? Not yelling "ZUURMIGERDDD TERRRRRURR!!!!!!" like Chicken Little within 5 minutes of hearing of the attack? Having one of his liberal plants leave the cameras rolling as Little Lord Mittleroy struggled to contain his glee over dead Americans?

Please point out the specific scandal.
 
2013-05-07 01:55:59 AM  

OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.


Let's see, Bush started a war because of some lies about WMD, Bush tanked the economy, Bush ignored memos that had told him that terrorists wanted to attack the US Bush captured and tortured people and put them in legal limbo by calling them "enemy combatants".

Obama did what, exactly?
 
2013-05-07 01:56:37 AM  

OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.


i.imgur.com

Not really. Its just that starting a major war under Doug Feith's false pretences that led to the simultaneous death of tens of thousands of American soliders, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civlians and then mocking the very stated reason for going to war in the first place was pretty much enough to overshadow everything else that happened, not to mention the war profiteering that led to the personal enrichment of the Vice President's former corporate friends and the deliberate sabotage of CIA covert operations in order to humiliate those who challenged the official narrative and the confirmed loss of over $9 Billion dollars in mismanaged funds in Iraq....that was a serious lot of entangled nasty shiat, you'd have to admit.
 
2013-05-07 01:57:48 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Bigdogdaddy: Reminds me of a dad of a friend I went to school with. He'd say, "There's never been a democrat in office who hasn't gotten us into war." My how times change.

Johnson was the worst...  At least Kennedy intended to get us out of Vietnam.  Johnson just went full retard on it.


I totally agree, I just forgot to pust his picture, until I was done, then my point was made.
 
2013-05-07 02:00:09 AM  

stoli n coke: What's the scandal with Benghazi? Not sending in the SEALs hours after everyone at the Benghazi consulate was dead? The State Department giving too much creedence that it may have been a protest over an anti-muslim video on a day when the Middle East saw several protests over an anti-muslim video?


content9.flixster.com
"Good news, sir!"
 
2013-05-07 02:01:03 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.


So you wish to claim abject stupidity, instead?  Got it.
 
2013-05-07 02:01:18 AM  

balloot: I, for one, LOVE Benghazi.  It is the greatest... It gives Fox News and talk radio something to circle jerk about all day without them causing any real damage.  As a Democrat, you couldn't craft a better diversion if you tried.


jinkchak.files.wordpress.com

That's what bothers me. The signal to noise ratio is so bad that legitimate criticism of the Administration over real issues that really matter is drowned out with sheer stupidity. When you're pissed off about mustard, arugula and birth certificates, that sucks all the energy out of the room.
 
2013-05-07 02:01:30 AM  
Benghazi: Not even once.
 
2013-05-07 02:01:36 AM  
400+ posts.  Surely with a response like this we won't see more Benghazi threads for months to come.

Mods, can I request the next one be a link to Sarah Palin talking about how if she were the VP her and McCain would have come through for the troops?

/smells a greenlight!
 
2013-05-07 02:02:39 AM  

Somacandra: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.

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Not really. Its just that starting a major war under Doug Feith's false pretences that led to the simultaneous death of tens of thousands of American soliders, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civlians and then mocking the very stated reason for going to war in the first place was pretty much enough to overshadow everything else that happened, not to mention the war profiteering that led to the personal enrichment of the Vice President's former corporate friends and the deliberate sabotage of CIA covert operations in order to humiliate those who challenged the official narrative and the confirmed loss of over $9 Billion dollars in mismanaged funds in Iraq....that was a serious lot of entangled nasty shiat, you'd have to admit.


Yes.  I get it.  "But Bush!"
 
2013-05-07 02:04:02 AM  

OgreMagi: But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.


If you can calmly and systematically lay out why and how this is a "scandal," I'd be interested in hearing it. Please proceed. And I mean that in the best way.
 
2013-05-07 02:04:38 AM  

OgreMagi: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.

So you wish to claim abject stupidity, instead?  Got it.


Oh look!  Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is __________"
 
2013-05-07 02:06:39 AM  

OgreMagi: Somacandra: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.

[i.imgur.com image 203x152]

Not really. Its just that starting a major war under Doug Feith's false pretences that led to the simultaneous death of tens of thousands of American soliders, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civlians and then mocking the very stated reason for going to war in the first place was pretty much enough to overshadow everything else that happened, not to mention the war profiteering that led to the personal enrichment of the Vice President's former corporate friends and the deliberate sabotage of CIA covert operations in order to humiliate those who challenged the official narrative and the confirmed loss of over $9 Billion dollars in mismanaged funds in Iraq....that was a serious lot of entangled nasty shiat, you'd have to admit.

Yes.  I get it.  "But Bush!"


So, it is a scandal because everyone blames Bush?

They blame him for actual scandals and not made up bullshiat like Benghazi.
 
2013-05-07 02:07:09 AM  

Somacandra: balloot: I, for one, LOVE Benghazi.  It is the greatest... It gives Fox News and talk radio something to circle jerk about all day without them causing any real damage.  As a Democrat, you couldn't craft a better diversion if you tried.

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That's what bothers me. The signal to noise ratio is so bad that legitimate criticism of the Administration over real issues that really matter is drowned out with sheer stupidity. When you're pissed off about mustard, arugula and birth certificates, that sucks all the energy out of the room.


That's probably because the things that really deserve criticism (drone strikes, the TSA, the treatment of Bradley Manning, etc...) are generally areas in which both of the major parties are in agreement.
 
2013-05-07 02:07:51 AM  

log_jammin: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

clearly both sides are bad


If you think about it, it's really Obama's fault for acting in such a way that there's no legitimate "scandal" argument to be made. If only he'd bungled things to the point where he was actually as bad as Bush - then people could go around smugly hating both sides (or claiming to, anyway) without looking like idiots. But no... he insists on being a clearly superior President, thus bitterly dividing the nation.
 
2013-05-07 02:08:33 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.

So you wish to claim abject stupidity, instead?  Got it.

Oh look!  Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is __________"


He does not know. Every time you ask, they come up with some excuse or just hate on Obama.
 
2013-05-07 02:09:22 AM  

Biological Ali: log_jammin: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

clearly both sides are bad

If you think about it, it's really Obama's fault for acting in such a way that there's no legitimate "scandal" argument to be made. If only he'd bungled things to the point where he was actually as bad as Bush - then people could go around smugly hating both sides (or claiming to, anyway) without looking like idiots. But no... he insists on being a clearly superior President, thus bitterly dividing the nation.


Damn uppity President!!
 
2013-05-07 02:09:26 AM  
Glad I slowed down commenting on Fark threads - there's a buttload of stupid going on here.
 
2013-05-07 02:10:59 AM  

OgreMagi: Yes.  I get it.  "But Bush!"


Is there a good reason why, given the absolutely fallible nature of government, we should look at each failing in a vacuum and not in the context of what other things the government has failed at?

Is there a reason why, when looking at said context, we should also be unable to point out the extreme biases of others and subsequently question their devotion to one issue vs. another?

Anyone who gives a fark about the 4 people killed in Benghazi should give thousands more farks about Iraq and Afghanistan and be devoting the majority of their effort to revealing what failures led us into them and how we can prevent them in the future.  They should NOT be spending a year talking about Benghazi.


But of course, I also think we should worry more about the fertilizer factories and the million other ways mass deaths occur than still listening to crap about tsarnaev, and I seem to be in a minority on that one too.


I don't think there is anything partisan, in and of itself, about saying X is bad but Y is much worse, and why don't we distribute our outrage accordingly.
 
2013-05-07 02:11:43 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.

So you wish to claim abject stupidity, instead?  Got it.

Oh look!  Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is __________"



SOSHULIZMS! Is it Soshulizms? I guessed Soshulizms.
 
2013-05-07 02:12:36 AM  

OgreMagi: I get it. "But Bush!"


You suggested that people blamed the previous President too much. I suggested that it wasn't the volume, but rather the serious magnitude of actual, documented problems with the Iraq War that overshadowed a lot of the otherwise productive work.....say in African health policy (PEPFAR) and political resolution (Sudan). Or the establishment of the largest national monument in American history preserving untold wealth in marine biological culture and diversity. I don't mind giving credit where its due, but the Iraq War pretty much overshadows all of that, as his own Presidential Library even makes clear.
 
2013-05-07 02:12:48 AM  

Biological Ali: If you think about it, it's really Obama's fault for acting in such a way that there's no legitimate "scandal" argument to be made. If only he'd bungled things to the point where he was actually as bad as Bush - then people could go around smugly hating both sides (or claiming to, anyway) without looking like idiots. But no... he insists on being a clearly superior President, thus bitterly dividing the nation.


he's a devious man
 
2013-05-07 02:12:53 AM  

stoli n coke: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.

So you wish to claim abject stupidity, instead?  Got it.

Oh look!  Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is __________"


SOSHULIZMS! Is it Soshulizms? I guessed Soshulizms.


Freedoms! Gun Grabbing!!  ACORN! I guess ACORN.
 
2013-05-07 02:12:59 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.

So you wish to claim abject stupidity, instead?  Got it.

Oh look!  Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is __________"


He also thinks that Fast and Furious is a huge scandal, and essentially told me to "study it out" yesterday.

But of course, he just  "likes arguing the unpopular view" to shake things up since we are all such libby libs around here.  He's really doing god's work, you know.
 
2013-05-07 02:14:10 AM  

OgreMagi: Yes. I get it. "But Bush!"


You do realize that you're the one who brought Bush up in the first place, right?
 
2013-05-07 02:14:30 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.

So you wish to claim abject stupidity, instead?  Got it.

Oh look!  Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is __________"

He does not know. Every time you ask, they come up with some excuse or just hate on Obama.


That's all this is.  More than 500 fkn posts and not one Real American can just  complete this sentence: "The scandal is __________"  Add those to the eleventy billion other threads in which they dodged the simple question.

In the time they take to tell everyone how gullible we are, or we don't dare criticize our Obamessiah, not one of these farkers has taken a few minutes to write a sentence or two plainly telling us that "the scandal is ________."

Truly fkn pathetic.
 
2013-05-07 02:16:47 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: BSABSVR: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Somacandra: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ineptitude seems to be a common thread. Let's go with that. More is coming.

How is this "ineptitude" ? Lay it all out for me. Right here. That's an invitation.

Be patient.

"I'm not smart enough to really understand, so once I'm out of talking points, I'll just get mysterious.  Youtube. Act of terror.  Susan Rice. It's not the crime it's the cover-up".

After seeing some of you winners in this thread i was surprised that this wasn't main paged.

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Whispering in that guy's ear: "Y'all be sure and find them weapons of mass destruction, boy. I decided to go after Saddam for what he was gonna do to my daddy. I just got Rummy and Cheyney to come up with some reasons. But it's up to you boys to find that evidence."
 
2013-05-07 02:18:30 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Oh look! Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is _THAT HE COLLECTS CONAN COMICS AND RIDES A BIKE WITH MOM JEANS ON_________"


4.bp.blogspot.com

FTFY.
 
2013-05-07 02:19:07 AM  

Somacandra: Lionel Mandrake: Oh look! Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is _THAT HE COLLECTS CONAN COMICS AND RIDES A BIKE WITH MOM JEANS ON_________"

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 533x385]

FTFY.


Impeach!!
 
2013-05-07 02:21:28 AM  

Smackledorfer: He also thinks that Fast and Furious is a huge scandal, and essentially told me to "study it out" yesterday.


To be fair, from a taste perspective the movie franchise is more or less the nadir of Western Civilization. Its more or less just one step away from "The Human Centipede."
 
2013-05-07 02:22:11 AM  
OgreMagi:

It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal. But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what. It's always black or white.

Great googly moogly... How butthurt does one have to be?

So do tell, Mr. Wolfowitz... Should we have bombed them on day one?
/ starting to lose track of what is important to US interests and what is horrible terroristic stuff.
 
2013-05-07 02:30:40 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Zeppelininthesky: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: Lionel Mandrake: OgreMagi: It seems everything that Bush did was a scandal.  But there's a large fark faction that will defend Obama to the death, not matter what.  It's always black or white.

Defend him against what?  I still don't know what the scandal is.

So you wish to claim abject stupidity, instead?  Got it.

Oh look!  Another outraged FARKer who won't just come right out and say "The scandal is __________"

He does not know. Every time you ask, they come up with some excuse or just hate on Obama.

That's all this is.  More than 500 fkn posts and not one Real American can just  complete this sentence: "The scandal is __________"  Add those to the eleventy billion other threads in which they dodged the simple question.

In the time they take to tell everyone how gullible we are, or we don't dare criticize our Obamessiah, not one of these farkers has taken a few minutes to write a sentence or two plainly telling us that "the scandal is ________."

Truly fkn pathetic.


------------------------

The scandal is Republicans reeeeeaaaaaaallly don't want Hillary to become president and need to damage her.
 
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