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2013-05-06 09:51:54 PM  

Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.


The only ones obfuscating the truth are the GOP.
 
2013-05-06 09:51:59 PM  

Biological Ali: Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.

So, you think that this is somehow worse than Watergate, and will result in Obama being impeached and resigning from office?

I just want to get a sense of the full extent of the crazy before deciding how hard to laugh.


Well, it has certainly damaged any chance of me voting for him for President in the future.
 
2013-05-06 09:52:05 PM  

Asa Phelps: dookdookdook: Frozboz: Hannity on his radio show this afternoon apparently had on someone who claimed to be the drone operator from the night of the consulate attacks giving his side of the story. I thought it was a parody bit when I turned it on, seriously. The guy was parroting every right-wing talking point, even going to the point of saying "we knew RIGHT THEN it wasn't a normal demonstration!" when asked if he thought it was a cover-up. The guy talked about breaking a NDA and getting in trouble by talking on air. I seriously thought I'd hear "BABABOOEY!" any minute.. but sadly, didn't.

Apparently Fox has some alleged anonymous insider whistleblower source who's just been recycling previously-known-and-debunked bullshiat from months ago as if it's bombshell breaking news.  Dunno if it's the same guy, but probably the same propaganda technique.

mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/02/foreign-policy-magazine-casts-more-d o ubt-on-fox/193876

(cut & paste b/c fark hates mediamatters links)

he's probably a self-hating male prostitute who runs his own news website that nobody has ever heard of.


Wonder if Fox is just making it up and they know they're just a propaganda mill or someone is farking with them and Fox just doesn't care enough to verify the person's credentials.
 
2013-05-06 09:52:51 PM  

Whodat: The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.


This is exactly what you guys said about Obama's birth certificate.
 
2013-05-06 09:53:01 PM  
The GOP had fallen so far. This BS "scandal" didn't keep Obama from being reelected, but they think it'll stop Hillary in '16? How low on ideas are these morons?
 
2013-05-06 09:53:06 PM  

Biological Ali: So, you think that this is somehow worse than Watergate, and will result in Obama being impeached and resigning from office?


The argument is that nobody died during Watergate, and therefore I'm going to make a delicious apple pie with these oranges.
 
2013-05-06 09:53:10 PM  

dr_blasto: Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.

Point to actual obfuscation and the actual cover up.


Every press event where this was brought up to Jay Carney is a start. Susan Rice's appearances, Hillary Clinton's "testimony" etc. If you think there have been real answers on this issue, you have not been paying attention or you are a willing dupe.
 
2013-05-06 09:53:36 PM  

Waldo Pepper: I find it funny that people on here are saying "well this side did this before or that side did something like it before" as this making doing the same thing okay.

Whether this is a scandal or not has nothing to do with anything either the right or left has gotten away with in the past.

I have no clue if or if not anything could have been done before, during or after the attack, What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.  

This was a bald face lie and being right before the election, this is an issue.


Find a quote that supports this.
 
2013-05-06 09:53:49 PM  

Waldo Pepper: What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.


And what difference does it make, ffs?
 
2013-05-06 09:54:09 PM  

Waldo Pepper: I have no clue if or if not anything could have been done before, during or after the attack, What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.


Don't you ever feel bad about lying/trolling on the internet?  I mean really, is that all you have going in your life?
 
2013-05-06 09:55:09 PM  

NewportBarGuy: 4 Special Operators? They already killed two ex-SEALs. Did you want a higher body count?

Jesus. And the reason they couldn't get a team from Europe was time. It was over before they could even write the OPORD. They don't just throw people into the fire. They need at least SOME time to prep before they get dropped.


Wrong.
Don't you think they are trained to go into situations without a lot of notice?
You watch too many movies.
 
2013-05-06 09:55:22 PM  

Whodat: dr_blasto: Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.

Point to actual obfuscation and the actual cover up.

Every press event where this was brought up to Jay Carney is a start. Susan Rice's appearances, Hillary Clinton's "testimony" etc. If you think there have been real answers on this issue, you have not been paying attention or you are a willing dupe.


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/09/12/us/politics/libya-stat em ents.html?_r=0
 
2013-05-06 09:55:25 PM  

Frozboz: firefly212: the right is upset that the investigation wasn't complete 48 hours after the attack

Hannity on his radio show this afternoon apparently had on someone who claimed to be the drone operator from the night of the consulate attacks giving his side of the story.  I thought it was a parody bit when I turned it on, seriously.  The guy was parroting every right-wing talking point, even going to the point of saying "we knew RIGHT THEN it wasn't a normal demonstration!" when asked if he thought it was a cover-up.  The guy talked about breaking a NDA and getting in trouble by talking on air.  I seriously thought I'd hear "BABABOOEY!" any minute.. but sadly, didn't.


lol, the worst part is that there are people who believe that moron...here's a hint... the NDA covers not telling people you were the frakkin drone operator on duty and over any given situation

The people who buy into this are just too farking stupid for me to wrap around, they have this tenuous grasp on logic that leads them to simply accept whatever fits their preconception, no matter how illogical it is.
 
2013-05-06 09:57:13 PM  

Waldo Pepper: What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video


When?  Where? When he called it an "Act of Terror" ? And what paycheck? And why is the President obliged to tell you a goddamn thing about ongoing operations at all, ever? I wouldn't have expected Bush to brief us on Fallujah while it was unfolding, nor should he have.
 
2013-05-06 09:58:20 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Waldo Pepper: I have no clue if or if not anything could have been done before, during or after the attack, What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.

Don't you ever feel bad about lying/trolling on the internet?  I mean really, is that all you have going in your life?


what do you care
 
2013-05-06 09:59:23 PM  

Waldo Pepper: I find it funny that people on here are saying "well this side did this before or that side did something like it before" as this making doing the same thing okay.

Whether this is a scandal or not has nothing to do with anything either the right or left has gotten away with in the past.

I have no clue if or if not anything could have been done before, during or after the attack, What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.
This was a bald face lie and being right before the election, this is an issue.


What was his motivation for blaming it on a video? Why would that in any way mitigate any of the facts on the ground? All the video does is shift the blame from Muslims being angry at the US BEFORE he was president to being pissed off at the US for something that happened WHILE he was president. Changing the motives of the attackers is irrelevant to the handling of the incident itself.

Motive, means, and opportunity are critical when reconstructing the crime scene. Motive is required to determine Mens Rea. No motive, and you're stuck in front of a jury with a dick in your hand - and not necessarily your own. So until someone comes up with a plausible, SPECIFIC way in which the lie helps him, it's just a bunch of hogwash.
 
2013-05-06 10:00:57 PM  
 
2013-05-06 10:00:59 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: NewportBarGuy: 4 Special Operators? They already killed two ex-SEALs. Did you want a higher body count?

Jesus. And the reason they couldn't get a team from Europe was time. It was over before they could even write the OPORD. They don't just throw people into the fire. They need at least SOME time to prep before they get dropped.

Wrong.
Don't you think they are trained to go into situations without a lot of notice?
You watch too many movies.


Except, by the time they could of actually gotten them on the ground, it was too late to do anything. Yes, they do need time to prepare for the mission. Do you think they can just drop in without knowing anything?
 
2013-05-06 10:01:30 PM  

BSABSVR: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Somacandra: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ineptitude seems to be a common thread. Let's go with that. More is coming.

How is this "ineptitude" ? Lay it all out for me. Right here. That's an invitation.

Be patient.

"I'm not smart enough to really understand, so once I'm out of talking points, I'll just get mysterious.  Youtube. Act of terror.  Susan Rice. It's not the crime it's the cover-up".

After seeing some of you winners in this thread i was surprised that this wasn't main paged.


fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net
 
2013-05-06 10:01:45 PM  

vygramul: dr_blasto: Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.

Point to actual obfuscation and the actual cover up.

More importantly, point to the motive. Nixon's campaign staff committed a crime, and Nixon covered it up. Obama's, I mean, someone committed a crime, and, well, Obama, er, well, you see... IT'S A SCANDAL, DAMMIT! WHY WON'T YOU PEOPLE LISTEN TO ME!?! CAN'T YOU SEE HOW BLACK HE IS!?!


The motive is the cover up or dismissal of a failure to protect the embassy. I don't think that anyone other than some nutters are attempting to say that they allowed the embassy to be overrun for a nefarious intent.
Also, do you know why Nixon's staff were bugging the Dem's office? Hint: It wasn't to get campaign strategy.
BTW Weak-assed attempt to play the race card. I guess when all you have is a hammer (or in this case the tattered remains of the race card) everything looks like a nail.
 
2013-05-06 10:02:33 PM  

vpb: impaler: The only scandal is how Republican scum are trying to make it a scandal.

Yes, but it might work.  There are plenty of BS artificial scandals that have.


It won't work because everyone has moved on except the conspiracy theory nuts.  At this point it's beating a dead horse over and over and over and over...
 
2013-05-06 10:03:15 PM  

vygramul: Waldo Pepper: I find it funny that people on here are saying "well this side did this before or that side did something like it before" as this making doing the same thing okay.

Whether this is a scandal or not has nothing to do with anything either the right or left has gotten away with in the past.

I have no clue if or if not anything could have been done before, during or after the attack, What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.
This was a bald face lie and being right before the election, this is an issue.

What was his motivation for blaming it on a video? Why would that in any way mitigate any of the facts on the ground? All the video does is shift the blame from Muslims being angry at the US BEFORE he was president to being pissed off at the US for something that happened WHILE he was president. Changing the motives of the attackers is irrelevant to the handling of the incident itself.

Motive, means, and opportunity are critical when reconstructing the crime scene. Motive is required to determine Mens Rea. No motive, and you're stuck in front of a jury with a dick in your hand - and not necessarily your own. So until someone comes up with a plausible, SPECIFIC way in which the lie helps him, it's just a bunch of hogwash.


The lie shifts the blame to some video producer away from the administration's foreign policy failures and their inability to protect and rescue an embassy in a highly charged area on the anniversary of 9/11.
 
2013-05-06 10:04:04 PM  

Waldo Pepper: I find it funny that people on here are saying "well this side did this before or that side did something like it before" as this making doing the same thing okay.

Whether this is a scandal or not has nothing to do with anything either the right or left has gotten away with in the past.

I have no clue if or if not anything could have been done before, during or after the attack, What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.

This was a bald face lie and being right before the election, this is an issue.


Except that what you said right there is a complete bald faced lie.  If I post the exact transcript of what Obama said within 48 hours will you admit you either have absolutely no idea what you are talking about or you're just lying yourself?
 
2013-05-06 10:04:07 PM  

Somacandra: Waldo Pepper: What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video

When?  Where? When he called it an "Act of Terror" ? And what paycheck? And why is the President obliged to tell you a goddamn thing about ongoing operations at all, ever? I wouldn't have expected Bush to brief us on Fallujah while it was unfolding, nor should he have.


okay well before you get your panties in a bunch. I would have been fine had he came out and said something to the effect. "we don't have enough information to know what caused these attacks but we will find out" or even "for security reasons we can't talk about the details of the attack." 

either one I would respect.
 
2013-05-06 10:04:31 PM  

vygramul: Changing the motives of the attackers is irrelevant to the handling of the incident itself.



Changing the motives of the attackers is irrelevant to the handling of the incident itself.

Changing the motives of the attackers is irrelevant to the handling of the incident itself.

THIS.
It makes no difference whether there was a single mob protesting a video or a protesting mob with an Al-Qaeda planted unit. Like Whether United Airlines or American Airlines or Southwest Airlines were the highjacked jets on 9/11 is irrelevant to the handling of the incident itself.
 
2013-05-06 10:04:36 PM  

Whodat: vygramul: dr_blasto: Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.

Point to actual obfuscation and the actual cover up.

More importantly, point to the motive. Nixon's campaign staff committed a crime, and Nixon covered it up. Obama's, I mean, someone committed a crime, and, well, Obama, er, well, you see... IT'S A SCANDAL, DAMMIT! WHY WON'T YOU PEOPLE LISTEN TO ME!?! CAN'T YOU SEE HOW BLACK HE IS!?!

The motive is the cover up or dismissal of a failure to protect the embassy. I don't think that anyone other than some nutters are attempting to say that they allowed the embassy to be overrun for a nefarious intent.
Also, do you know why Nixon's staff were bugging the Dem's office? Hint: It wasn't to get campaign strategy.
BTW Weak-assed attempt to play the race card. I guess when all you have is a hammer (or in this case the tattered remains of the race card) everything looks like a nail.


Failure that the GOP caused by withholding funds to the embassy security.
 
2013-05-06 10:05:30 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net


You are somehow accusing the current President of not hugging some solidiers on a plane? Is that the scandal?
 
2013-05-06 10:05:31 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: BSABSVR: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Somacandra: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ineptitude seems to be a common thread. Let's go with that. More is coming.

How is this "ineptitude" ? Lay it all out for me. Right here. That's an invitation.

Be patient.

"I'm not smart enough to really understand, so once I'm out of talking points, I'll just get mysterious.  Youtube. Act of terror.  Susan Rice. It's not the crime it's the cover-up".

After seeing some of you winners in this thread i was surprised that this wasn't main paged.

[fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net image 480x360]


Man the trolls are getting lazier.
 
2013-05-06 10:06:02 PM  
You know what I think is a scandal? All these farkin' cat links in the politics tab! I mean, wtf?
 
2013-05-06 10:06:25 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: BSABSVR: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Somacandra: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ineptitude seems to be a common thread. Let's go with that. More is coming.

How is this "ineptitude" ? Lay it all out for me. Right here. That's an invitation.

Be patient.

"I'm not smart enough to really understand, so once I'm out of talking points, I'll just get mysterious.  Youtube. Act of terror.  Susan Rice. It's not the crime it's the cover-up".

After seeing some of you winners in this thread i was surprised that this wasn't main paged.


The stupidity of the derp brigade is unending. A quick GIS for "Obama hugging soldier" returns lots of images of Obama hugging soldiers.
 
2013-05-06 10:06:37 PM  

Somacandra: You are somehow accusing the current President of not hugging some solidiers on a plane? Is that the scandal?


It's even worse than the snakes.
 
2013-05-06 10:06:41 PM  
img.timeinc.net
 
2013-05-06 10:06:45 PM  

fritton: Waldo Pepper: I find it funny that people on here are saying "well this side did this before or that side did something like it before" as this making doing the same thing okay.

Whether this is a scandal or not has nothing to do with anything either the right or left has gotten away with in the past.

I have no clue if or if not anything could have been done before, during or after the attack, What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.

This was a bald face lie and being right before the election, this is an issue.

Except that what you said right there is a complete bald faced lie.  If I post the exact transcript of what Obama said within 48 hours will you admit you either have absolutely no idea what you are talking about or you're just lying yourself?


no. I know what I saw on TV. Is it possible to take away the wrong message, sure but I'm willing to assume the majority of people watching that news conference came away with the same message that it was the video.
 
2013-05-06 10:06:45 PM  
So the big scandal is that hours after the attack someone requested the deployment of four special operations soldiers.

So, everyone was already dead, and the big plan was to send four more people in to fight an unknown quantity of ... whoever.
What kind of commander would even send his men into on a mission where they had a great danger of being killed and no possibility of completing the mission?
 
2013-05-06 10:07:07 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: BSABSVR: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Somacandra: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ineptitude seems to be a common thread. Let's go with that. More is coming.

How is this "ineptitude" ? Lay it all out for me. Right here. That's an invitation.

Be patient.

"I'm not smart enough to really understand, so once I'm out of talking points, I'll just get mysterious.  Youtube. Act of terror.  Susan Rice. It's not the crime it's the cover-up".

After seeing some of you winners in this thread i was surprised that this wasn't main paged.

[fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net image 480x360]


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-06 10:07:50 PM  
cdn.theguardian.tv
 
2013-05-06 10:08:18 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: [img.timeinc.net image 611x404]


Are they on a plane?  Well nice try smartypants.
 
2013-05-06 10:08:32 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: BSABSVR: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Somacandra: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ineptitude seems to be a common thread. Let's go with that. More is coming.

How is this "ineptitude" ? Lay it all out for me. Right here. That's an invitation.

Be patient.

"I'm not smart enough to really understand, so once I'm out of talking points, I'll just get mysterious.  Youtube. Act of terror.  Susan Rice. It's not the crime it's the cover-up".

After seeing some of you winners in this thread i was surprised that this wasn't main paged.

[fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net image 480x360]


Sock Ruh Tease: [img.timeinc.net image 611x404]


dr_blasto: Lt. Cheese Weasel: BSABSVR: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Somacandra: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Ineptitude seems to be a common thread. Let's go with that. More is coming.

How is this "ineptitude" ? Lay it all out for me. Right here. That's an invitation.

Be patient.

"I'm not smart enough to really understand, so once I'm out of talking points, I'll just get mysterious.  Youtube. Act of terror.  Susan Rice. It's not the crime it's the cover-up".

After seeing some of you winners in this thread i was surprised that this wasn't main paged.

[fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net image 480x360]

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x263]


Lt Cheese Weasel Status: farking TOLD.
 
2013-05-06 10:08:36 PM  

Waldo Pepper: I would have been fine had he came out and said something to the effect. "we don't have enough information to know what caused these attacks but we will find out" or even "for security reasons we can't talk about the details of the attack."


i.imgur.com

Why is your personal taste in style of press releases supposed to matter to anyone else at all, much less constitute a scandal about U.S. national security?
 
2013-05-06 10:08:44 PM  

Whodat: dr_blasto: Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.

Point to actual obfuscation and the actual cover up.

Every press event where this was brought up to Jay Carney is a start. Susan Rice's appearances, Hillary Clinton's "testimony" etc. If you think there have been real answers on this issue, you have not been paying attention or you are a willing dupe.


So your answer to "show me a specific lie" is "look everywhere and at everything ever"?

This was much more interesting  when everyone was coming up with their theories of what Obama was really doing instead of saving Ambassador Stevens.

"Rather than answer the call for help, was he incesting his daughters in some sort of a perverted homage to the Muslim call to prayer?  As disturbing as such a thought is, it's increasingly likely that that may have been the case."

Now it's just barf up a sound bite.
 
2013-05-06 10:08:46 PM  

Somacandra: Waldo Pepper: What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video

When?  Where?


Did you see his appearance on Letterman that he did about 4-5 days after the attack?
 
2013-05-06 10:09:06 PM  

Zeppelininthesky: tenpoundsofcheese: NewportBarGuy: 4 Special Operators? They already killed two ex-SEALs. Did you want a higher body count?

Jesus. And the reason they couldn't get a team from Europe was time. It was over before they could even write the OPORD. They don't just throw people into the fire. They need at least SOME time to prep before they get dropped.

Wrong.
Don't you think they are trained to go into situations without a lot of notice?
You watch too many movies.

Except, by the time they could of actually gotten them on the ground, it was too late to do anything. Yes, they do need time to prepare for the mission. Do you think they can just drop in without knowing anything?


There are people who believe militaries are infallible supermen. Seriously. I've heard people (who don't know thing 1 about the military) state that the Greenville simply have to have known the Japanese fishing boat was there before performing the emergency surface because our submarines are so advanced. They think there really IS such a thing as "alert-5" and it means a plane can take off in 5 minutes.
 
2013-05-06 10:09:14 PM  
"If we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced, I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the [CIA] annex in the morning, because I believe the Libyans would have split," Hicks said. "They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them."

"Achmed?  Didn't that plane have US Air Force marking?"
"You know, Abdul, I do believe it did!  Why didn't he shoot at us?"
"I guess it's because Americans are pussies?  DURKA DURKA!  CHHHHAARRRGGEEE!"
 
2013-05-06 10:09:37 PM  

fritton: Waldo Pepper: I find it funny that people on here are saying "well this side did this before or that side did something like it before" as this making doing the same thing okay.

Whether this is a scandal or not has nothing to do with anything either the right or left has gotten away with in the past.

I have no clue if or if not anything could have been done before, during or after the attack, What I do know is I watched Obama lay all the blame on some video and I would bet my paycheck that he knew the video had nothing to do with it.

This was a bald face lie and being right before the election, this is an issue.

Except that what you said right there is a complete bald faced lie.  If I post the exact transcript of what Obama said within 48 hours will you admit you either have absolutely no idea what you are talking about or you're just lying yourself?


I gave the farker a link to what everyone said. He can't be bothered to face the facts, you'd be wasting you time to try most likely.
 
2013-05-06 10:11:04 PM  
neoavatara.com
 
2013-05-06 10:11:27 PM  

Whodat: vygramul: dr_blasto: Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.

Point to actual obfuscation and the actual cover up.

More importantly, point to the motive. Nixon's campaign staff committed a crime, and Nixon covered it up. Obama's, I mean, someone committed a crime, and, well, Obama, er, well, you see... IT'S A SCANDAL, DAMMIT! WHY WON'T YOU PEOPLE LISTEN TO ME!?! CAN'T YOU SEE HOW BLACK HE IS!?!

The motive is the cover up or dismissal of a failure to protect the embassy. I don't think that anyone other than some nutters are attempting to say that they allowed the embassy to be overrun for a nefarious intent.
Also, do you know why Nixon's staff were bugging the Dem's office? Hint: It wasn't to get campaign strategy.
BTW Weak-assed attempt to play the race card. I guess when all you have is a hammer (or in this case the tattered remains of the race card) everything looks like a nail.


The cover up or dismissal of a failure to protect the embassy.

Do tell how changing the motive of the attackers accomplishes that.

Seriously, I'm all ears.

And the race card was because this is so goddamned retarded, it's the only explanation.
 
2013-05-06 10:11:37 PM  

Fart_Machine: Somacandra: You are somehow accusing the current President of not hugging some solidiers on a plane? Is that the scandal?

It's even worse than the snakes.


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2013-05-06 10:11:44 PM  
Obama supporters really are incapable of admitting their guy farks up once in a while, aren't they?
 
2013-05-06 10:11:57 PM  
This little piece from the WaPo sums it up nicely.

"What's a shame is that while there may not be any real massive conspiracies and cover-ups, there very well may be real instances of administration errors and worse throughout the government. There always are! But uncovering them requires hard work, and might only turn up low-level malfeasance in agencies that most Fox News viewers have never heard of and don't care about. So House Republicans, who have the position to investigate real wrongdoing, don't bother. Finding out that some low-level appointee did something real but relatively minor might result in better government, but it's not guaranteed to get mentioned by all the conservative talk radio hosts. So: Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, and never mind whether the government is actually functioning properly or not. "
 
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2013-05-06 10:12:38 PM  

Biological Ali: Whodat: I think that this will pan out like Watergate. It wasn't the actual event that was the problem but rather the obfuscation and cover up that will be the real issue. Obvious difference being that nobody died in Watergate.

The administration has had a long time to get out in front of this issue and they have done nothing but fuel the flames.

So, you think that this is somehow worse than Watergate, and will result in Obama being impeached and resigning from office?

I just want to get a sense of the full extent of the crazy before deciding how hard to laugh.



this totally original idea of his has been all the rage on right-wing AM rant radio in the past several weeks. every time it is brought up as if it some mind-blowing comparison that will make Behghazi a thing.

every time either a caller or a host (several these days) brings it up... they act like they just thought of the idea and its flawless brilliance.

it'd be funny if it wasn't so tiresome and repetitive.
 
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