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2013-05-06 03:02:45 PM  

Zimmy: But why isn't an HDMI slot a default?


But why isn't an _______ slot a default?

HDMI

USB

SD

etc>
 
2013-05-06 03:07:32 PM  

LasersHurt: dickfreckle: How would a "fanboy" explain Apple's infinite wisdom in not including the same slot every other manufacturer does?

I don't know, but I bet insulting them in the question is a good way to get a thorough and calmly explained answer.


I'd probably guess it is because Apple, under Steve Jobs, placed design above flexibility/utility. That led to devices that felt good in the hand, looked pleasing to the eye, and were even enjoyable to use. But the tradeoff is that sometimes the things felt unnecessarily handicapped too.

If I'm going to be cynical, I'd also think they comforted themselves (in regards to the product handicapping) by knowing they sold more expensive models or associated dongles at significant profit. Piles of cash help people feel all better about such things.
 
2013-05-06 03:11:47 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: I have yet to find a tablet I like.


That's what you get for not Supporting the WebOS tablet !

Seriously though, I own every iPad version, 3 Androids including the Latest Transformer, and both the Surface RT and PRo.

The Surface Pro is largely exactly what I have been wanting from a tablet since my Fujitsu Lifebook P showed me what was possible, (but not available) over a decade ago. The Surface Pro can run all my normal programs, plus some tablet friendly apps, I have a keyboard and touchpad, and Touchscreen, and stylus, and I can use whichever I feel like.

It ain't perfect, but it's as close to meeting ALL of my needs as any of the options out there today. The RT has the same app-only limitations as the iPad and the Android tablets, though it at least has (mostly) Office.

The Surface is the only tablet I use every day at home and work. The iPad I still use for a few games I'm partial to.
 
2013-05-06 03:13:38 PM  
He's got a point.  The Surface hardly frustrates anybody.

/Because hardly anybody is buying them
 
2013-05-06 03:16:20 PM  
 
2013-05-06 03:16:53 PM  

dickfreckle: How would a "fanboy" explain Apple's infinite wisdom in not including the same slot every other manufacturer does?


iOS doesn't have an easily accessible file system. What use is an SD card with files if you can't access it?
 
2013-05-06 03:19:00 PM  
Surface is just the next Kin/Zune. Microsoft never learns.
 
2013-05-06 03:19:48 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: They suck less than the rest, but for flash, they suck more. Don't tell me what I need. That's the Apple disease: convincing us we don't need something we use.


Flash video does suck, though. And, unfortunately, the whole point of an HTML5 video standard seems to have been lost.
 
2013-05-06 03:19:49 PM  
The Surface tablet just looks so exhausting in the commercials.  I don't want to be clicking and snapping and break dancing....I just want to watch cat videos on YouTube.
 
2013-05-06 03:21:22 PM  
ipads are terrible devices mostly because of the iOS security model and lack of uniform data sharing options. Oh, and the terrible software keyboard. The only good thing I can say about my ipad is that if I don't touch it for eight or ten weeks it will still have a decent charge on its battery the next time I do want it for something.

I own a Surface Pro and it's just exactly like every other Windows 8 notebook I own. It's by far the fastest-booting Windows computer I've ever seen, but even at that it still takes ~4 seconds to get to a login prompt and another three or four to load my user profile (that's slightly faster than I've seen from a Samsung 840 or a desktop with a REVOdrive). That's kind of a failure for a tablet device. On the other hand, it handles printing and all the oddball devices that exist in the Windows ecosystem like a dream. Unfortunately, Metro is about 1/3 finished and lacks basic tools like a filesystem browser, and many tasks are deeply obnoxious on a 10" touchscreen or from the cover-keyboard-thing.

My biggest ongoing frustration with Android is the fact that OEMs frequently replace Google's apps, which means that calendar/email/address book sorts of apps rarely work the same from one device to another, and it's very difficult to provide unified support because of those very minor differences. I love the fact that almost everything about Android can be customized, but I'd rather that be left in the hands of users rather than the device manufacturers.
 
2013-05-06 03:21:38 PM  

Lucky LaRue: CheatCommando: Lucky LaRue: I'd like it better if it had MS Office. Or expandable memory. Or an HDMI port. Or any port, really..

You probably also want a radiator on your watch.

I know some people are happy with what Apple tells them they want, but I prefer a device that offers me choices.


The essence of good design is not knowing what to add, but what to remove. Win 8 / Android are great examples of what happens when you let pointy-headed geeks like myself play designer.

A spec sheet is not a design any more than a list of ingredients is a recipe.
 
2013-05-06 03:22:59 PM  

Shaggy_C: Jackpot777: It has to be one of the strangest ad campaigns I've ever seen. The Windows Phone ad shows what their two competitors do well (sharing for Samsung, Siri for Apple) and all they show their phone doing is them scrolling the screen (wow). But that doesn't compare to the tablet ads.

I think they took the Apple idea with iPad (don't tell people how to use it; just give them a product and let them figure out its purpose) way too far.  "Hey, it's a tablet, that's all you need to know! Catchy music! Dancing! Won't someone please pay attention to this commercial!!!! Microsoft!!!!"


www.mobileapples.com
Worked for the competition...
 
2013-05-06 03:24:15 PM  
I have an HP Touchpad (from the fire sale) and would have loved it if they didn't stop updates for it.

No apps, no updates for existing apps equals a movies, email and internet tablet.
 
2013-05-06 03:24:18 PM  

Deadguy2322: Zimmy: RexTalionis: There is a Lightning to HDMI adapter out there.

But why isn't an HDMI slot a default?

Because an HDMI port would double the thickness of the iPad and not everyone would use it, so it cuts costs and preserves the desired size.


There are phone with mini HDMI outs
 
2013-05-06 03:24:56 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: That's the Apple disease: convincing us we don't need something we use.


www.giantmike.com
 
2013-05-06 03:24:57 PM  

dickfreckle: Lucky LaRue: Or expandable memory.

This has always been a beef with me. Every Android device I've owned had a microSD slot so I didn't have to constantly shuffle my media and other data to avoid running out of space. It's such a simple farking way to let the consumer have a little more freedom with their device. How would a "fanboy" explain Apple's infinite wisdom in not including the same slot every other manufacturer does?


The UI paradigm on iOS doesn't present files or storage space to the user at the system level.  An application *can* show you documents and stuff that it manages internally but that's it.   Beyond that, the user never sees/smells files or folders.  So a bit more further thought on the subject and you'd arrive at the conclusion that you have no way to know what portions of your data are on the removable medium or not.  Simply removing the storage could render applications missing or inoperable, etc.  If you know apple, you know user experience is paramount to them so allowing users to get into such an ugly situation is something they tend to avoid and design out of the situation.

In short it would require a slew of new UI to handle management of this and potentially confusing some users that didn't have to care about that at all.   Or you could just buy the next one up with more space and not worry about it.  Admittedly they charge you a lot for just "extra memory" but that's because they expect most to buy the lower end ones and want to make up some cash on the folks willing to spend more on the higher end.  It's a choice they made do disproportionally spread the money they expect to make across their models.
 
2013-05-06 03:25:51 PM  

likefunbutnot: I love the fact that almost everything about Android can be customized, but I'd rather that be left in the hands of users rather than the device manufacturers.


That's what finally pissed me off about Android. Sure, it's all customizable... if you go to the trouble to root the device because the maker/carrier locked it down hard. The great parts of the platform were almost entirely overridden somewhere up the retail chain from the end user. It can be overcome, but if I'm buying a device, I don't necessarily feel like I should have to put forth effort and void the warranty just to set things back to the way they were before they dicked around with things.
 
2013-05-06 03:26:57 PM  

akula: mayIFark: RexTalionis: Lucky LaRue: I'd like it better if it had MS Office. Or expandable memory. Or an HDMI port. Or any port, really..

[cdn.imore.com image 850x472]
There is a Lightning to HDMI adapter out there.

Interesting, but given its apple related product, how much does it cost? $59.99?

The adapters aren't cheap (depending on the adapter, anywhere from $30-60ish, IIRC), but they help slim down the packaging of the device. You can get off brand ones but those have iffy experiences. I have the VGA and the HDMI cables for my iOS stuff. Makes it really easy to pop a movie onto a larger screen if I like. They also make presentations from a tablet a breeze- don't need a full size computer, just connect to the display, load the presentation app, and away you go.


You can also connect wireless to an AppleTV to do presentations.  Using AirPlay.
 
2013-05-06 03:28:08 PM  

mctwin2kman: akula: mayIFark: RexTalionis: Lucky LaRue: I'd like it better if it had MS Office. Or expandable memory. Or an HDMI port. Or any port, really..

[cdn.imore.com image 850x472]
There is a Lightning to HDMI adapter out there.

Interesting, but given its apple related product, how much does it cost? $59.99?

The adapters aren't cheap (depending on the adapter, anywhere from $30-60ish, IIRC), but they help slim down the packaging of the device. You can get off brand ones but those have iffy experiences. I have the VGA and the HDMI cables for my iOS stuff. Makes it really easy to pop a movie onto a larger screen if I like. They also make presentations from a tablet a breeze- don't need a full size computer, just connect to the display, load the presentation app, and away you go.

You can also connect wireless to an AppleTV to do presentations.  Using AirPlay.


True, but that requires an AppleTV (maybe some other devices can do it too). Easier to haul around a dongle and a cable than an AppleTV.
 
2013-05-06 03:29:33 PM  

Slam Dunkz: In short it would require a slew of new UI to handle management of this and potentially confusing some users that didn't have to care about that at all.   Or you could just buy the next one up with more space and not worry about it.


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Not to mention...

Yes, it's more expensive than an SD card, and yes, it won't help if you don't have an Internet connection, but as you note, it's a tradeoff that will piss off .01% of people (who probably wouldn't be Apple customers  anyway) in exchange for a better user experience for the remainder.
 
2013-05-06 03:31:52 PM  

Theaetetus: Shaggy_C: Jackpot777: It has to be one of the strangest ad campaigns I've ever seen. The Windows Phone ad shows what their two competitors do well (sharing for Samsung, Siri for Apple) and all they show their phone doing is them scrolling the screen (wow). But that doesn't compare to the tablet ads.

I think they took the Apple idea with iPad (don't tell people how to use it; just give them a product and let them figure out its purpose) way too far.  "Hey, it's a tablet, that's all you need to know! Catchy music! Dancing! Won't someone please pay attention to this commercial!!!! Microsoft!!!!"

[www.mobileapples.com image 176x220]
Worked for the competition...


iPod != iPad. Music players have hyped up the "you can hear your danceable music, and dance to it" aspect since the Walkman. Even the newer ones.
 
2013-05-06 03:33:00 PM  

Theaetetus: Shaggy_C: Jackpot777: It has to be one of the strangest ad campaigns I've ever seen. The Windows Phone ad shows what their two competitors do well (sharing for Samsung, Siri for Apple) and all they show their phone doing is them scrolling the screen (wow). But that doesn't compare to the tablet ads.

I think they took the Apple idea with iPad (don't tell people how to use it; just give them a product and let them figure out its purpose) way too far.  "Hey, it's a tablet, that's all you need to know! Catchy music! Dancing! Won't someone please pay attention to this commercial!!!! Microsoft!!!!"

[www.mobileapples.com image 176x220]
Worked for the competition...


Unbelievable that someone would use catchy music and dancing to advertise a MUSIC PLAYER.
 
2013-05-06 03:34:37 PM  

Theaetetus: Shaggy_C: Jackpot777: It has to be one of the strangest ad campaigns I've ever seen. The Windows Phone ad shows what their two competitors do well (sharing for Samsung, Siri for Apple) and all they show their phone doing is them scrolling the screen (wow). But that doesn't compare to the tablet ads.

I think they took the Apple idea with iPad (don't tell people how to use it; just give them a product and let them figure out its purpose) way too far.  "Hey, it's a tablet, that's all you need to know! Catchy music! Dancing! Won't someone please pay attention to this commercial!!!! Microsoft!!!!"

[www.mobileapples.com image 176x220]
Worked for the competition...


Uh, yeah, when they were selling a *portable music player.*
 
2013-05-06 03:34:44 PM  
CheatCommando:

The essence of good design is not knowing what to add, but what to remove. Win 8 / Android are great examples of what happens when you let pointy-headed geeks like myself play designer.

A spec sheet is not a design any more than a list of ingredients is a recipe.


This sounds an awful lot like "form over function".  My tablet isn't artwork - it's supposed to do the job I ask it to do.
 
2013-05-06 03:35:09 PM  

mayIFark: Jon iz teh kewl: PC LOAD LETTER: MS channels you into poor UI. Apple channels you into annoying UI. Android doesn't channel you, but it's still annoying.

I have yet to find a tablet I like.

i don't see a problem with iPad at ALL.  maybe your drinking something? bad???
 like turpentine??

Don't use one right now, so I might be a bit back dated in my criticism (meaning some of them might have been fixed), but here were my problems with ipad:

1) No flash on the camera - would add about $0.05 extra cost to them. why leave it out? Why bother with a camera if you don't want to bother with a flash?
2) No port of any kind.
3) No expandable memory slot
4) Too damn expensive
5) No flash support
6) No firefox (if I remember correctly, there is no 'find' function on safari)
7) No way to turn off components to save battery
8) And the usual complains about all apple products like too restrictive, treating users like idiots, iTunes and so on




Maddox did a piece about the camera on an iPad.

And it's why having a flash on an iPad is like having an ashtray on a motorcycle.

www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net
 
2013-05-06 03:36:49 PM  

Jackpot777: Theaetetus: Shaggy_C: Jackpot777: It has to be one of the strangest ad campaigns I've ever seen. The Windows Phone ad shows what their two competitors do well (sharing for Samsung, Siri for Apple) and all they show their phone doing is them scrolling the screen (wow). But that doesn't compare to the tablet ads.

I think they took the Apple idea with iPad (don't tell people how to use it; just give them a product and let them figure out its purpose) way too far.  "Hey, it's a tablet, that's all you need to know! Catchy music! Dancing! Won't someone please pay attention to this commercial!!!! Microsoft!!!!"

[www.mobileapples.com image 176x220]
Worked for the competition...

iPod != iPad.


24.media.tumblr.com
Wait, seriously? Tell me more.
 
2013-05-06 03:37:42 PM  

Lucky LaRue: I'd like it better if it had MS Office.


You don't get what an iPad is for. It's not just a smaller portable computer.
 
2013-05-06 03:38:08 PM  

Theaetetus: Slam Dunkz: In short it would require a slew of new UI to handle management of this and potentially confusing some users that didn't have to care about that at all.   Or you could just buy the next one up with more space and not worry about it.

[cdn-static.cnet.co.uk image 620x411]
Not to mention...

Yes, it's more expensive than an SD card, and yes, it won't help if you don't have an Internet connection, but as you note, it's a tradeoff that will piss off .01% of people (who probably wouldn't be Apple customers  anyway) in exchange for a better user experience for the remainder.


I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with iCloud. Okay, so it has my contacts and stuff in there. That's fine. It's also supposed to have my pictures up there, too. Great. Why can't I seem to access my photos via the web interface for iCloud? What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?
 
2013-05-06 03:38:54 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: PC LOAD LETTER: MS channels you into poor UI. Apple channels you into annoying UI. Android doesn't channel you, but it's still annoying.

I have yet to find a tablet I like.

i don't see a problem with iPad at ALL.   maybe you're drinking something? bad???
 like turpentine??


Android Kool-Aid. There is no significant difference between Android's UI and iOS's UI.
 
2013-05-06 03:40:16 PM  
In other words "Apple is slaughtering our new product."
 
2013-05-06 03:40:25 PM  

RexTalionis: What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?


Open up iPhoto on your primary machine - your iPhone pics appear there in Photo Stream.
 
2013-05-06 03:41:22 PM  

Theaetetus: RexTalionis: What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?

Open up iPhoto on your primary machine - your iPhone pics appear there in Photo Stream.


I don't have a Mac!
 
2013-05-06 03:41:28 PM  
I found most people's complaint with iPads run a long the line of "An iPad is not a computer". Yes, it's not. It's not supposed to be one.

I also find it funny that when the iPad came out the Google and MS fans all said it was stupid and why would anyone want a tablet and then a couple of years later when there is Android and MS ones they all think they are fine now.
 
2013-05-06 03:42:14 PM  

RexTalionis: Theaetetus: RexTalionis: What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?

Open up iPhoto on your primary machine - your iPhone pics appear there in Photo Stream.

I don't have a Mac!


Well, then a Mac-based multi-device online synchronization and backup utility ain't gonna be much use for you. Get Carbonite. :)
 
2013-05-06 03:42:34 PM  

Theaetetus: Jackpot777: Theaetetus: Shaggy_C: Jackpot777: It has to be one of the strangest ad campaigns I've ever seen. The Windows Phone ad shows what their two competitors do well (sharing for Samsung, Siri for Apple) and all they show their phone doing is them scrolling the screen (wow). But that doesn't compare to the tablet ads.

I think they took the Apple idea with iPad (don't tell people how to use it; just give them a product and let them figure out its purpose) way too far.  "Hey, it's a tablet, that's all you need to know! Catchy music! Dancing! Won't someone please pay attention to this commercial!!!! Microsoft!!!!"

[www.mobileapples.com image 176x220]
Worked for the competition...

iPod != iPad.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 250x307]
Wait, seriously? Tell me more.


Two of us have pointed out to you that the iPod is designed to be a portable music player. I even included links showing this line of advertising (you can dance! To your music! And nobody hears your music like you're hearing it right now!) spanning back from the 1980s.

Are you suggesting that the Surface Pro's advertising is because it's primarily a portable music player?
 
2013-05-06 03:43:38 PM  

RexTalionis: Theaetetus: RexTalionis: What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?

Open up iPhoto on your primary machine - your iPhone pics appear there in Photo Stream.

I don't have a Mac!


*facepalm*

What is the point of the internet if I don't have my computer hooked up to the internet?

Yes the cloud stuff doesn't work if the only thing you have that works with it is one device. But that's not a limitation of it. That's because you only have one device that works with it.
 
2013-05-06 03:44:44 PM  

Theaetetus: RexTalionis: Theaetetus: RexTalionis: What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?

Open up iPhoto on your primary machine - your iPhone pics appear there in Photo Stream.

I don't have a Mac!

Well, then a Mac-based multi-device online synchronization and backup utility ain't gonna be much use for you. Get Carbonite. :)


That's dumb - if it's Mac-only, then they shouldn't have made such a big deal of it when I got iOS5 and 6. Also, I do have Carbonite.
 
2013-05-06 03:46:13 PM  

Shaggy_C: Can't you just use Google Docs on the iPad?


I haven't had great experiences w/Google docs so far in general.
 
2013-05-06 03:46:52 PM  

RexTalionis: Theaetetus: RexTalionis: Theaetetus: RexTalionis: What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?

Open up iPhoto on your primary machine - your iPhone pics appear there in Photo Stream.

I don't have a Mac!

Well, then a Mac-based multi-device online synchronization and backup utility ain't gonna be much use for you. Get Carbonite. :)

That's dumb - if it's Mac-only, then they shouldn't have made such a big deal of it when I got iOS5 and 6. Also, I do have Carbonite.


So your griping that they didn't hook it into 3rd party apps on windows?
 
2013-05-06 03:48:04 PM  

pisceandreamer: Shaggy_C: Can't you just use Google Docs on the iPad?

I haven't had great experiences w/Google docs so far in general.


Me too I wish Google would work on making things work better more than adding more features. But That's probably my big complaint against them them about most things.
 
2013-05-06 03:48:22 PM  
Two of us have pointed out  

Make that three people (me, servlet, and Fireproof).
 
2013-05-06 03:48:41 PM  

Jackpot777: Theaetetus: Jackpot777: Theaetetus: Shaggy_C: Jackpot777: It has to be one of the strangest ad campaigns I've ever seen. The Windows Phone ad shows what their two competitors do well (sharing for Samsung, Siri for Apple) and all they show their phone doing is them scrolling the screen (wow). But that doesn't compare to the tablet ads.

I think they took the Apple idea with iPad (don't tell people how to use it; just give them a product and let them figure out its purpose) way too far.  "Hey, it's a tablet, that's all you need to know! Catchy music! Dancing! Won't someone please pay attention to this commercial!!!! Microsoft!!!!"

[www.mobileapples.com image 176x220]
Worked for the competition...

iPod != iPad.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 250x307]
Wait, seriously? Tell me more.

Two of us have pointed out to you that the iPod is designed to be a portable music player. I even included links showing this line of advertising (you can dance! To your music! And nobody hears your music like you're hearing it right now!) spanning back from the 1980s.

Are you suggesting that the Surface Pro's advertising is because it's primarily a portable music player?


Yes, that's clearly what I'm suggesting.
media.tumblr.com

I'm suggesting that the person who said "I think they took [Apple's idea] way too far"was right, and compared this particular MS fail to an advertising campaign by Apple that was similar, but more successful, due to a better underlying message than "look at us! Dancing! Catchy music! Microsoft! Please pay attention!"
 
2013-05-06 03:48:58 PM  

Corvus: RexTalionis: Theaetetus: RexTalionis: What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?

Open up iPhoto on your primary machine - your iPhone pics appear there in Photo Stream.

I don't have a Mac!

*facepalm*

What is the point of the internet if I don't have my computer hooked up to the internet?

Yes the cloud stuff doesn't work if the only thing you have that works with it is one device. But that's not a limitation of it. That's because you only have one device that works with it.


The promise of the cloud is that it is platform agnostic and accessible always. If I want to access my Carbonite, Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive, I can access all of them through my Windows 8 ultrabook, Windows 8 laptop, Windows 7 desktop, Linux desktop, Android miniPC, Android tablet, other Android tablet, the Android Gingerbread tablet, or my iPhone.

If the cloud is locked down to one classification of devices, it's a pretty useless cloud.
 
2013-05-06 03:50:56 PM  

RexTalionis: The promise of the cloud is that it is platform agnostic and accessible always. If I want to access my Carbonite, Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive, I can access all of them through my Windows 8 ultrabook, Windows 8 laptop, Windows 7 desktop, Linux desktop, Android miniPC, Android tablet, other Android tablet, the Android Gingerbread tablet, or my iPhone.

If the cloud is locked down to one classification of devices, it's a pretty useless cloud.


Also add my other iPhone and my Nexus phone.
 
2013-05-06 03:51:12 PM  

Jackpot777: Two of us have pointed out  

Make that three people (me, servlet, and Fireproof).


It's true. Three of you look at an amusing dancing GIF and a post poking fun at MS and immediately jump to an unreasonable conclusion that I believe Microsoft Surface is first and foremost a music player. It's weird, because the full moon isn't for three more weeks.
 
2013-05-06 03:51:37 PM  

Theaetetus: I'm suggesting that the person who said "I think they took [Apple's idea] way too far"was right, and compared this particular MS fail to an advertising campaign by Apple that was similar, but more successful, due to a better underlying message than "look at us! Dancing! Catchy music! Microsoft! Please pay attention!"


So you bested me by comparing the current MS campaign for tablets to a much older but similar ad campaign for a totally different category of product.  Epic burn, I guess?
 
2013-05-06 03:53:09 PM  

RexTalionis: Corvus: RexTalionis: Theaetetus: RexTalionis: What's the point of backing up my pictures to the cloud if the only device I can access it on is my iPhone?

Open up iPhoto on your primary machine - your iPhone pics appear there in Photo Stream.

I don't have a Mac!

*facepalm*

What is the point of the internet if I don't have my computer hooked up to the internet?

Yes the cloud stuff doesn't work if the only thing you have that works with it is one device. But that's not a limitation of it. That's because you only have one device that works with it.

The promise of the cloud is that it is platform agnostic and accessible always. If I want to access my Carbonite, Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive, I can access all of them through my Windows 8 ultrabook, Windows 8 laptop, Windows 7 desktop, Linux desktop, Android miniPC, Android tablet, other Android tablet, the Android Gingerbread tablet, or my iPhone.

If the cloud is locked down to one classification of devices, it's a pretty useless cloud.


actually here is PC setup here:

http://www.apple.com/icloud/setup/pc.html

So tell me what "cloud" can I access using my commodore 64 with no internet connection?
So all are useless right because according to you if I can't access it with EVERY device it's 100% useless.
 
2013-05-06 03:53:44 PM  
www.hu.mtu.edu

People have been using tablets for a lot longer than keyboards.

tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com

The thing we're really missing are angle and pressure sensitive stylus. I'd like to have a Cintiq merged into a standalone tablet.
 
2013-05-06 03:53:48 PM  

Corvus: Lucky LaRue: I'd like it better if it had MS Office.

You don't get what an iPad is for. It's not just a smaller portable computer.


I get it - iPad isn't a small, portable computer.  The Surface is, and with all the functionality of the iPad.
 
2013-05-06 03:54:57 PM  

RexTalionis: The promise of the platform-agnosticcloud is that it is platform agnostic and accessible always. If I want to access my Carbonite, Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive, I can access all of them through my Windows 8 ultrabook, Windows 8 laptop, Windows 7 desktop, Linux desktop, Android miniPC, Android tablet, other Android tablet, the Android Gingerbread tablet, or my iPhone.


The promise of the platform-specific cloud, on the other hand, is that it's better integrated with that particular platform. I don't think Apple was ever promising that their system would be platform agnostic, and without them doing things like rushing to sell OSX for Compaqs and Dells, it's a bit unreasonable to feel like they've let you down in that regard.
 
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