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(Outside Online)   When men were men: 50th anniversary of the first American expedition to summit Everest, which reached the top by not one but two routes, a climber lost all his toes but lived, and the whole thing was sponsored by Camel and Rainier beer   (outsideonline.com) divider line 24
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2013-05-06 01:01:57 PM
Nooooo  mooooooor toooooooes Beeeeeeeer
 
2013-05-06 01:03:35 PM
so he finally had a use for the wads of paper in new shoes?
 
2013-05-06 01:07:23 PM
strayoutdoors.com
 
2013-05-06 01:47:47 PM

cretinbob: [strayoutdoors.com image 560x299]


glad to see a python reference so early on. now, on to both peaks of kilimanjaro.
 
2013-05-06 01:50:18 PM
pssst: a kiwi and a sherpa did it ten years prior to that. just sayin'
 
2013-05-06 02:28:08 PM

FlashHarry: pssst: a kiwi and a sherpa did it ten years prior to that. just sayin'


True...but the Americans who climbed the west ridge route did their route first, then walked down the south col route for the first-ever traverse of the mountain. The west ridge still has a failure rate of more than 100%: more people die trying it than reach the summit. Not too shabby.
 
2013-05-06 02:41:00 PM

wiredroach: FlashHarry: pssst: a kiwi and a sherpa did it ten years prior to that. just sayin'

True...but the Americans who climbed the west ridge route did their route first, then walked down the south col route for the first-ever traverse of the mountain. The west ridge still has a failure rate of more than 100%: more people die trying it than reach the summit. Not too shabby.


a fair point, to be sure. i still think that messner doing it solo and without oxygen is the most amazing summit of all.
 
2013-05-06 02:42:15 PM

wiredroach: FlashHarry: pssst: a kiwi and a sherpa did it ten years prior to that. just sayin'

True...but the Americans who climbed the west ridge route did their route first, then walked down the south col route for the first-ever traverse of the mountain. The west ridge still has a failure rate of more than 100%: more people die trying it than reach the summit. Not too shabby.


PERCENTAGES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY
 
2013-05-06 02:44:28 PM

FlashHarry: wiredroach: FlashHarry: pssst: a kiwi and a sherpa did it ten years prior to that. just sayin'

True...but the Americans who climbed the west ridge route did their route first, then walked down the south col route for the first-ever traverse of the mountain. The west ridge still has a failure rate of more than 100%: more people die trying it than reach the summit. Not too shabby.

a fair point, to be sure. i still think that messner doing it solo and without oxygen is the most amazing summit of all.


Have you read his unauthorized autobiography?
 
2013-05-06 02:45:15 PM
Dave "Super Dave" Hahn has summitted Everest 14 times, more than any other non-Sherpa.
He's about to try for #15.
http://www.rmiguides.com/blog/category/1/everest
 
2013-05-06 02:45:48 PM

astro716: Have you read his unauthorized autobiography?


i haven't.
 
2013-05-06 02:46:53 PM

astro716: ave you read his unauthorized autobiography?


aww, goddamnitsomuch.
 
2013-05-06 02:48:15 PM

astro716: PERCENTAGES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY


150% of experts disagree.
 
2013-05-06 05:37:01 PM

astro716: wiredroach: FlashHarry: pssst: a kiwi and a sherpa did it ten years prior to that. just sayin'

True...but the Americans who climbed the west ridge route did their route first, then walked down the south col route for the first-ever traverse of the mountain. The west ridge still has a failure rate of more than 100%: more people die trying it than reach the summit. Not too shabby.

PERCENTAGES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY


60% of the time it works all the time.
 
2013-05-06 05:54:06 PM
That was also back when their outfitter, Eddie Bauer, was a real expedition outfitter and not a clothier to yuppie scum females.
 
2013-05-06 05:55:47 PM
"After losing all his toes on Everest, Barry Bishop became a National Geographic vice president and gatekeeper for the society's expedition funding. In the 1970s, the CIA recruited him to lead a program that used climbers to place nuclear-powered devices on mountains that overlooked China. He died in a car accident, at 62, in 1994."

WTFBBQ?
 
2013-05-06 06:31:27 PM
I moved from Seattle to Tampa last summer (not my choice, it was for work.) I have actually found myself missing Rainier.
 
2013-05-06 06:34:41 PM

dryknife: used climbers to place nuclear-powered devices on mountains that overlooked China.


I would guess radioisotope thermoelectric generator powered listening devices that would run for many years without needing to be maintained.

A quick Google shows that the RTG itself could weigh about 125 pounds, perhaps less in something not designed for space travel. Not something I'd want to backpack up the mountain but if you're getting a check from some CIA shell company with a lot of digits before the decimal point it would probably be worth it.
 
2013-05-06 07:22:36 PM

slykens1: dryknife: used climbers to place nuclear-powered devices on mountains that overlooked China.

I would guess radioisotope thermoelectric generator powered listening devices that would run for many years without needing to be maintained.

A quick Google shows that the RTG itself could weigh about 125 pounds, perhaps less in something not designed for space travel. Not something I'd want to backpack up the mountain but if you're getting a check from some CIA shell company with a lot of digits before the decimal point it would probably be worth it.


You'd certainly get the temperature gradient you want in the Himalayas
 
2013-05-06 08:09:51 PM
Willi Unsoeld was a real badass. It's a shame more people aren't familiar with him.
 
2013-05-06 08:19:40 PM

FlashHarry: cretinbob: [strayoutdoors.com image 560x299]

glad to see a python reference so early on. now, on to both peaks of kilimanjaro.


Then onto the North Face of the Uxbridge Road ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U0tDU37q2M
 
2013-05-06 08:54:34 PM

llevrok: That was also back when their outfitter, Eddie Bauer, was a real expedition outfitter and not a clothier to yuppie scum females.


Isn't that the truth.
But, Eddie Bauer's First Ascent line (pointing out their outfitting of the first American ascent up Everest) shows that they are desperate to get back in to the real expedition game. They even fully equiped a big expedition to Everest a couple years ago that featured badass Ed Veisters and maybe even a Whittaker, and their website currently has a pretty large writeup about their Everest history and gear.
 
2013-05-06 09:20:02 PM
My best friend from high school is trying to climb Everest.  Crazy bastard is doing it without oxygen.
 
2013-05-07 10:19:42 AM

Hollie Maea: My best friend from high school is trying to climb Everest.  Crazy bastard is doing it without oxygen.


it ain't easy, but it's doable. they don't call it the "death zone" for nothing.
 
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