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(Nature World News)   Fishermen who have no interests in this themselves want the Humpback Whale to be taken off the endangered species list   (natureworldnews.com) divider line 37
    More: Unlikely, Lists of IUCN Red List endangered species, Hawaii, Center for Biological Diversity  
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2013-05-06 08:40:54 AM  
Gracie is pregnant
 
2013-05-06 08:42:31 AM  
For as much crap as Japan takes about whaling, you know who the real bad guy actually was?

The Soviet Union.

They illegally took tens of thousands of humpbacks, and actively lied about it.
 
2013-05-06 08:42:41 AM  
Moby' what?
 
2013-05-06 08:44:15 AM  
If the population is large enough to support delisting them, they should be delisted, otherwise you water down the meaning of "endangered species", and then you encourage people to ignore the classification.
 
2013-05-06 08:44:51 AM  
Well, a double-dumbass on you!
 
2013-05-06 08:45:35 AM  
They like you very much, but they are not the hell your whales..
 
2013-05-06 08:46:09 AM  

black_knight: Well, a double-dumbass on you!


I hate you
and I berate you
and I eschew you
and I say "Screw you"!
 
2013-05-06 08:48:06 AM  
Large mushroom and pepperoni pizza with extra onions and a glass of Michelob.
 
2013-05-06 08:48:21 AM  

dittybopper: For as much crap as Japan takes about whaling, you know who the real bad guy actually was?

The Soviet Union.

They illegally took tens of thousands of humpbacks, and actively lied about it.


yeah, but with Japan, we already told 'em.

twice.

/ Hiroshima, Nagasaki
 
2013-05-06 08:48:56 AM  
Came for the Star Trek references, can go home happy by slingshotting around the sun.
 
2013-05-06 08:51:06 AM  
Ok, but they have to be hunted using only wooden weapons and 5 person row boats.
 
2013-05-06 08:51:58 AM  
Sixty thousand whales in the entire world does not exactly seem like a thriving and robust population. This group seems to be making the argument "well we hunted them until they were poised on the thin edge of extinction, but now there are more of them than there were then, so they must be out of danger."
 
2013-05-06 08:52:49 AM  

edip1976: Large mushroom and pepperoni pizza with extra onions and a glass of Michelob.


It's dark out, and we're wearing sunglasses.

/Hit it.
 
2013-05-06 08:53:07 AM  
Is there even any real reason to still kill whales? Is anyone still using their blubber for their lamps on a large scale? Ddoes anyone eat any part of them? Is still mainly just for that swee,t sweet ambergris?
 
2013-05-06 08:55:36 AM  
Whales are not fish.

Whalers are not fishermen.
 
2013-05-06 08:55:45 AM  

jaybeezey: Is there even any real reason to still kill whales? Is anyone still using their blubber for their lamps on a large scale? Ddoes anyone eat any part of them? Is still mainly just for that swee,t sweet ambergris


Japan eats them. *shrug*
 
2013-05-06 08:57:06 AM  
Fishermen only care about fish, subby.  Whales are mammals.   We should be watching the mammalmen.

Dumbass.
 
2013-05-06 08:58:55 AM  
Globally there are more than 60,000 humpback whales, with about one third of them falling into the North Pacific classification. The region had about 1,400 in the mid-1960s, according to the AP report.

That is really awesome. I don't see any reason to start hunting them again though. I'm sure the fisherman are just worried they'll eat whatever fish are left after massive overfishing by humans. I am inclined to tell them to f**k off.
 
2013-05-06 08:59:15 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Ok, but they have to be hunted using only wooden weapons and 5 person row boats.


Typical harpoons and lances were steel bladed, with relatively soft iron socketed shafts, and only the throwing handle itself was wood.
 
2013-05-06 09:02:55 AM  

Gwendolyn: jaybeezey: Is there even any real reason to still kill whales? Is anyone still using their blubber for their lamps on a large scale? Ddoes anyone eat any part of them? Is still mainly just for that swee,t sweet ambergris

Japan eats them. *shrug*


The sad part is, even the Japanese don't eat whale meat anymore, it has to be thrown into school lunches. The "scientific whaling" program is more about trying to save face by not admitting whaling was/is bad.

The Hawaiian fishermen's group doesn't want to hunt these whales, but they clearly want the restrictions on their fishing gear lifted. One of the primary causes of whale mortality is entanglement with fishing lines.
 
2013-05-06 09:10:08 AM  

jaybeezey: Is there even any real reason to still kill whales? Is anyone still using their blubber for their lamps on a large scale? Ddoes anyone eat any part of them? Is still mainly just for that swee,t sweet ambergris?


For the Alaskan Inuit population, yes whale hunting and consumption is very important.  For 99% of the rest of the world no.
 
2013-05-06 09:12:00 AM  

Feel_the_velvet: Fishermen only care about fish, subby.  Whales are mammals.   We should be watching the mammalmen.


Hmm...something tells me I shouldn't GIS that...
 
2013-05-06 09:13:24 AM  

i_got_no_strings: Sixty thousand whales in the entire world does not exactly seem like a thriving and robust population. This group seems to be making the argument "well we hunted them until they were poised on the thin edge of extinction, but now there are more of them than there were then, so they must be out of danger."


How many whales do we really need, anyway?

I say five.  One for each ocean.

/not obscure
 
2013-05-06 09:29:39 AM  
Humans are causing the largest extinction event in 100,000+ years.  Wanting to kill off our possibly intelligent fellow terrans is more than little f*cked up.
 
2013-05-06 09:35:52 AM  
Yeah cause it's the whales fault the fisheries are shrinking. It couldn't possibly be people who are causing it right ?
 
2013-05-06 09:49:38 AM  
Theres plenty of whales. Just go on any online dating site
 
2013-05-06 10:04:59 AM  
I'm pro-whaling, where people are concerned.
 
2013-05-06 10:31:43 AM  
There are 2 ways to get off the list. One is to improve habitats and reduce pressure to the point that the species becomes a thriving population again.

The other is:
FTFA: "The last time the NOAA removed an animal from the endangered species list was in 2008, when the agency determined the Caribbean monk seal had gone extinct, the AP reported."

We continue to do a lot more to push species toward #2 than #1.

/Put that in your hand-carved scrimshaw whale-tooth pipe and smoke it.
 
2013-05-06 10:34:30 AM  
Of course they have an interest. That is the point of their desire. The question, as usual, is whether they can act responsibly instead of rapaciously.
 
2013-05-06 10:48:35 AM  
Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't figure out why it's OK to kill humpback whales regardless of what list they're on?
 
2013-05-06 12:09:10 PM  
What I don't understand is why fisherman seem so OK with trashing the ecosystem from which they make a living.
 
2013-05-06 12:11:18 PM  

Tom_Slick: jaybeezey: Is there even any real reason to still kill whales? Is anyone still using their blubber for their lamps on a large scale? Ddoes anyone eat any part of them? Is still mainly just for that swee,t sweet ambergris?

For the Alaskan Inuit population, yes whale hunting and consumption is very important.  For 99% of the rest of the world no.


I'm going to hazard this comment and say that their dumbass ancestors never should have migrated to an inhospitable wasteland in the first place. Then you know, they wouldn't have needed to hunt whales so badly.
 
2013-05-06 12:49:46 PM  
Those who fail to remember the past future are doomed to repeat it.

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2013-05-06 01:04:06 PM  

tanman1975: Gracie is pregnant


Done in one.
 
2013-05-06 02:34:14 PM  

torusXL: Tom_Slick: jaybeezey: Is there even any real reason to still kill whales? Is anyone still using their blubber for their lamps on a large scale? Ddoes anyone eat any part of them? Is still mainly just for that swee,t sweet ambergris?

For the Alaskan Inuit population, yes whale hunting and consumption is very important.  For 99% of the rest of the world no.

I'm going to hazard this comment and say that their dumbass ancestors never should have migrated to an inhospitable wasteland in the first place. Then you know, they wouldn't have needed to hunt whales so badly.


i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-06 03:05:32 PM  

MrBallou: torusXL: Tom_Slick: jaybeezey: Is there even any real reason to still kill whales? Is anyone still using their blubber for their lamps on a large scale? Ddoes anyone eat any part of them? Is still mainly just for that swee,t sweet ambergris?

For the Alaskan Inuit population, yes whale hunting and consumption is very important.  For 99% of the rest of the world no.

I'm going to hazard this comment and say that their dumbass ancestors never should have migrated to an inhospitable wasteland in the first place. Then you know, they wouldn't have needed to hunt whales so badly.

[i39.tinypic.com image 450x343]


But I just wanted to see if I'd get any whale bites :(

Is that so much to ask
 
2013-05-07 04:05:50 PM  

torusXL: MrBallou: torusXL: Tom_Slick: jaybeezey: Is there even any real reason to still kill whales? Is anyone still using their blubber for their lamps on a large scale? Ddoes anyone eat any part of them? Is still mainly just for that swee,t sweet ambergris?

For the Alaskan Inuit population, yes whale hunting and consumption is very important.  For 99% of the rest of the world no.

I'm going to hazard this comment and say that their dumbass ancestors never should have migrated to an inhospitable wasteland in the first place. Then you know, they wouldn't have needed to hunt whales so badly.

[i39.tinypic.com image 450x343]

But I just wanted to see if I'd get any whale bites :(

Is that so much to ask


it was too obvious.  Make it a bit more subtle next time.
 
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