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2013-05-06 09:21:10 AM
Macular Degeneration ain't no joke.  My moms has to get an injection in her eyeball every other week.
 
2013-05-06 09:33:12 AM
interesting, but I never heard of fish oil being used for that. its cardiac benefits are nice, however.
 
2013-05-06 09:59:54 AM
I don't see the point of the article.
 
2013-05-06 10:15:03 AM
Rename it snake oil and people will buy the shiat out of it.
 
2013-05-06 10:16:58 AM
Isn't that not even what anti-oxidants are supposed to do?
I haven't gotten my GED in biology, but isn't this something along the lines of "Wearing a helmet won't prevent forest fires, so don't wear helmets"?
 
2013-05-06 10:20:46 AM
My father had this, and from what I'm told, it's hereditary.  Hopefully there's a treatment by the time it develops.
 
2013-05-06 10:39:03 AM

ManateeGag: My father had this, and from what I'm told, it's hereditary.  Hopefully there's a treatment by the time it develops.


My father has this too, my eye doc recommended PreserVision vitamins from Bausch & Lomb.  Don't know if it is helping but it can't hurt and if it works hooray.
 
2013-05-06 10:47:29 AM
WHAT?
 
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2013-05-06 11:04:49 AM
I see what you did there, subby.
 
2013-05-06 11:10:26 AM
The article says the study clarified the use of AREDS supplements but fails to actually give the bottom line?

All people want to know is: is there a payoff in using them? AND Are there any issues taking them?

From what I can gather, since the article seems to dance around the bottom line and not offer anything concrete, is that AREDS can help slow the progression of Macular Degeneration, but smokers may be at greater risk of lung cancer, and some people might get upset stomachs from taking Zinc.

I can relate to AMD... I had radiation treatment for a cancerous melanoma tumor in my eye, and the vision in that eye can now be best described as "looking through a glass spotted with rain", since the radiation has basically damaged the eye in the week I had the damn "chip" sewn onto the back of my eyeball. It is steadily growing worse, and the doctors had said (treatment was 2.5 years ago) that I'd lose about 50% of my vision in that eye.

Hey... at least I still have stereoscopic vision and don't have a creepy glass eye. Still being alive is a bonus, too (Melanomas are bad enough, Ocular Melanomas are particularly nasty business if not caught and treated in time)
 
2013-05-06 11:19:36 AM

Tom_Slick: ManateeGag: My father had this, and from what I'm told, it's hereditary.  Hopefully there's a treatment by the time it develops.

My father has this too, my eye doc recommended PreserVision vitamins from Bausch & Lomb.  Don't know if it is helping but it can't hurt and if it works hooray.


thanks.  I'll ask my eye doctor next time I'm in for a check-up.
 
2013-05-06 11:37:08 AM
We put it in a pill.

It'll counteract all the crap you've been eating for decades.

We promise!!!
 
2013-05-06 11:40:35 AM

Mytch: Isn't that not even what anti-oxidants are supposed to do?
I haven't gotten my GED in biology, but isn't this something along the lines of "Wearing a helmet won't prevent forest fires, so don't wear helmets"?


It's more "wearing a helmet won't prevent forest fires, so it's not really necessary to wear a helmet if all you're doing is preventing a forest fire.  If you're riding a motorcycle too, that helmet does protect your head from injury, so you should definitely wear it if you're preventing forest fires while on a motorcycle."
 
2013-05-06 11:43:29 AM
Is this where I put in an obscure Tim Minchin reference?
 
2013-05-06 11:50:04 AM

meat0918: We put it in a pill.

It'll counteract all the crap you've been eating for decades.

We promise!!!



yea, and you can smoke all you want and have all the bad habits you want and this pill will counter everything.

americans do love the bullshiat.
 
2013-05-06 12:06:07 PM

friday13: Mytch: Isn't that not even what anti-oxidants are supposed to do?
I haven't gotten my GED in biology, but isn't this something along the lines of "Wearing a helmet won't prevent forest fires, so don't wear helmets"?

It's more "wearing a helmet won't prevent forest fires, so it's not really necessary to wear a helmet if all you're doing is preventing a forest fire.  If you're riding a motorcycle too, that helmet does protect your head from injury, so you should definitely wear it if you're preventing forest fires while on a motorcycle."



Yeah, but in this case, the helmet wasn't a fish oil pill, but the overall lifestyle that might include fish for dinner.

Science did what it was supposed to do.  They noticed people who ate fish also seemed to have lower rates of heart disease, and formulated a hypothesis (healthier fish oils). This preliminary research was then picked up by the supplement industry that saw a new cash cow on the horizon.  They then proceeded to pump out pill after pill with "These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA" attached to them.
 
2013-05-06 12:40:37 PM
The article tries to muddy the waters, but it basically states that omega 3 fatty acids don't help with armd. However, typically they are given to improve dry eyes due to improving lipid profile in the oily component of tears. The article tries to confuse the issue by attempting to cast aspersions on the original AREDS formulation. Yes, betacarotene increases lung cancer in smokers. The new formulation was being tried in order to see if you could have a useful version that also works for smokers. Bottom line: no, but original AREDS formulation is shown to slow the progression of armd in people diagnosed with ARMD. Quit smoking.
 
2013-05-06 12:44:25 PM

ManateeGag: Tom_Slick: ManateeGag: My father had this, and from what I'm told, it's hereditary.  Hopefully there's a treatment by the time it develops.

My father has this too, my eye doc recommended PreserVision vitamins from Bausch & Lomb.  Don't know if it is helping but it can't hurt and if it works hooray.

thanks.  I'll ask my eye doctor next time I'm in for a check-up.


Related to my last post: it can't hurt. Except potentially if you are a smoker. However, no conclusive study has been done to show that areds formulation helps in people genetically predisposed to it. That is more to do with the difficulty of long term studies. Logic would dictate it should help, but we've seen in the field of medicine the times that evidently logical things aren't true.
 
2013-05-06 01:04:13 PM

meat0918: We put it in a pill.

It'll counteract all the crap you've been eating for decades.

We promise!!!


i read the first line like a lyric from a song

we put it in a pill
eat up and spill
watch the thrill
die like a mutha farka
kill all o' u
 
2013-05-06 01:37:57 PM
The question is how does Anne Frank feel about this?
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-06 02:11:10 PM

Tr0mBoNe: Rename it snake oil and people will buy the shiat out of it.


Tell people it will make their boners harder/asses smaller and people will buy the shiat out of it.
 
2013-05-06 02:20:56 PM
I take fish oil tablets twice a day for it's dry eye and cardio benefits.  I don't see anything in the article that says I should do otherwise.
 
2013-05-06 03:40:44 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT?


I can't believe that made me laugh
 
2013-05-06 06:48:05 PM

ManateeGag: My father had this, and from what I'm told, it's hereditary.  Hopefully there's a treatment by the time it develops.


I have it in one eye (thankfully my other eye is not affected). They're not sure why, except it may be related to a medication I had to take for 10 years for a serious illness. Anyhoo, I did the eyeball injections, they didn't help overall. I stopped them. I'm completely centrally blind in my left eye.

I've done a lot of research on treatments as well as talked to a few experts. Basically, we're looking at about 10 years for stem cell injections that will probably restore vision. Might be a wee bit longer due to stupid political bullshiat on stem cell research.

There are also tech solutions, but they're designed for people who have it severely in both eyes. I'd love to be a cyborg, but none of the tech solutions has impressed me the way stem cell research has.  http://www.webmd.com/eye-health/macular-degeneration/news/20120123/st e m-cells-new-hope-for-macular-degeneration

I have wet MD, and color loss in the affected eye, though I have to say, I always wondered what color blind people saw, and before it got much worse in that eye, I experienced going color blind. Yellow looked pink, red and green looked a weird shade of brown.

Anyhoo, I'm super lucky in having the one good eye, so it doesn't impact me too much. And when you lose the central vision you still have your side vision. I can actually navigate a room with just my bad eye...but I can't read or see faces. And in my case because it's a weird case of wet MD, they do not expect it to develop in the other eye (until I'm old enough to get age related, then it might).

The ONLY thing you can do to help prevent, I've been told, is don't smoke cigarettes. All my docs have pooh pooh'ed the vitamins.

Going blind farking sucks, but honestly it's probably the best kind of blind, because you do retain SOME vision. Worst is losing the ability to read/see faces. I'm very very very glad I can do both with one healthy eye.

/is a lemon, squeeze me
 
2013-05-06 08:00:42 PM

Farce-Side: Macular Degeneration ain't no joke.  My moms has to get an injection in her eyeball every other week.


(O__O)

No thanks, just kill me.
 
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