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(Washington Post)   Hey, Occupy Wall Street, call me when you've spent 32 straight years sitting outside protesting, like this old lady   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 89
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2013-05-05 09:40:08 PM
I got married in DC in 1992, and we have wedding photos with this woman.  The guy was still around, too, but he didn't want to take pictures that day.  He was working on writing something and didn't want to be interrupted.
 
2013-05-05 09:53:28 PM
Laudable determination.  Completely ineffective, but laudable.
 
2013-05-06 12:28:46 AM
Tuppence?
Tuppence?

Tuppence to spare?

//For some reason that popped in my head.
 
2013-05-06 12:32:40 AM
And this protest has accomplished what exactly? (rhetorical since the answer is obviously nothing)
 
2013-05-06 12:36:28 AM
Anyone got a cliffnotes for that meandering wall of text?  I read the Post growing up... but the quality seems to have gone down drastically.
 
2013-05-06 12:42:04 AM
Meanwhile, a young, dark-haired man stops in front of the tent, aiming a digital camera at one of the signs. Connie leans forward and calls hello. She'll tolerate those who want to take pictures, but at a price. They need to listen to what she has to say.

Sounds like Miss Flite from Bleak House - an eccentric fixture attached to an august institution, seeking an audience wherever she can find one.
 
2013-05-06 12:45:49 AM

RembrandtQEinstein: And this protest has accomplished what exactly? (rhetorical since the answer is obviously nothing)


Protesters weren't able to stop the Iraq war, either. Does that mean they shouldn't have bothered?
 
2013-05-06 12:46:47 AM
'round these parts we call that "being homeless", not "protesting"
 
2013-05-06 12:48:12 AM
Pfft. This is America. Start a non-profit and start embezzling already.
 
2013-05-06 12:48:48 AM
Long story short: it's not really a political story.  It's about homeless people setting up camp and shouting crazy jibberish at passersby.

Because this particular camp is in front of the White House, and because their particular conspiracy involves nuclear weapons, these mentally ill hobos are inexplicably given more respect than if they were at a bus stop shouting anti-fluoride conspiracies.
 
2013-05-06 12:48:57 AM

fusillade762: RembrandtQEinstein: And this protest has accomplished what exactly? (rhetorical since the answer is obviously nothing)

Protesters weren't able to stop the Iraq war, either. Does that mean they shouldn't have bothered?


In general I'd say their having bothered was irrelevant.  In practice, they made for quite a hassle when I went to see The President speak at a totally-non-partisan 4th of July function in 2002 or so.  So, yes I would have preferred it if they hadn't bothered.
 
2013-05-06 12:48:59 AM

RembrandtQEinstein: And this protest has accomplished what exactly? (rhetorical since the answer is obviously nothing)


...and what have you done, exactly?  If you have done anything, please let us know.  Peace takes us all to stand together, encompassing truth and love.  I doubt anyone here actually enjoys war and dying (unless you are a government official war profiteering asshole with no sort of empathy or soul)
 
2013-05-06 12:50:38 AM
No Jules, you're gonna be like those pieces of shiat out there who beg for change. They walk around like a bunch of farkin' zombies, they sleep in garbage bins, they eat what I throw away, and dogs piss on 'em. They got a word for 'em, they're called bums. And without a job, residence, or legal tender, that's what you're gonna be - a farkin' bum!
 
2013-05-06 12:51:10 AM
I've actually had a few people listen to my preoccupations while I sit inside tapping away on the keyboard. Not that it'll ever do any good, but it's warmer & drier this way.

Somebody should teach her how to to use Firefox on a library computer.
 
2013-05-06 12:53:59 AM
Skyday:

Peace takes us all to stand together, encompassing truth and love.

Dream on.
 
2013-05-06 12:54:32 AM

RembrandtQEinstein: And this protest has accomplished what exactly? (rhetorical since the answer is obviously nothing)




Maybe. After 32 years... you have to wonder how many times a president has stared out his window contemplating world issues, and drifted his gaze around this lady's protest.

For the amount of people she has likely spoken to and impacted even in the smallest way.. i find it very difficult to believe that she incited absolutely nothing in the populace anywhere.

Also, my first reaction to the headline was "32 years? fark id have upgraded to blowing shiat up by then....". until i realized shes protesting nukes. Cant really win that argument through violence, eh?
 
2013-05-06 12:57:35 AM

Alonjar: RembrandtQEinstein: And this protest has accomplished what exactly? (rhetorical since the answer is obviously nothing)

Maybe. After 32 years... you have to wonder how many times a president has stared out his window contemplating world issues, and drifted his gaze around this lady's protest.

For the amount of people she has likely spoken to and impacted even in the smallest way.. i find it very difficult to believe that she incited absolutely nothing in the populace anywhere.

Also, my first reaction to the headline was "32 years? fark id have upgraded to blowing shiat up by then....". until i realized shes protesting nukes. Cant really win that argument through violence, eh?


32 years of a bad idea doesn't suddenly make it good.
 
2013-05-06 12:59:29 AM
Sweet Baby Ray...this woman's been at this almost as long as I've been alive...

/Kinda makes me wonder WTF I'm doing with my life...
 
2013-05-06 01:00:27 AM

The One True TheDavid: Skyday:

Peace takes us all to stand together, encompassing truth and love.

Dream on.


I shall :)  <3
 
2013-05-06 01:03:22 AM
Seems like there's at least one of these "career protestors" in every major city. They always have a wall of text, various pamphlets to hand out, usually some photos, protest signs, etc. They generally hand write everything in all caps. It's rarely obvious what they're protesting at first glance.
 
2013-05-06 01:06:21 AM
32 straight years of FAIL.
 
2013-05-06 01:15:26 AM
50 years ago, protestors took to the street to make it clear how much they disagreed with the government.

These days, protestors write a really scathing blog post.
 
2013-05-06 01:25:14 AM
Poor crazy lady. It is nice that she is determined, but with about the same effort and rather less...well...being bughouse-nuts, she could really achieve great things. I find it sad that she has what looks like paranoia and a persecution complex.

Crazy, Determined, Intelligent: pick any two. It's like the Mechanic's Rule of fast-cheap-good, but with non-average human beings. Determined and Intelligent gets you Gandhi. Intelligent and Crazy gets you Tesla. Crazy and Determined gets you this lady.

And that is sad, considering with some medication and therapy to fix the Crazy, there might be Intelligent hiding under there somewhere.
 
2013-05-06 01:28:29 AM
People do some amazing things in the name of peace. There are much worse causes to dedicate your life to.

Think of the Buddhist monks who have set themselves on fire and burned to death just to make sure their protest is taken seriously. It's hard to imagine that level of dedication.
 
2013-05-06 01:32:48 AM

SpiderQueenDemon: Poor crazy lady. It is nice that she is determined, but with about the same effort and rather less...well...being bughouse-nuts, she could really achieve great things.


dl.dropboxusercontent.com

Did Mother Teresa waste her life, or did she spend it trying to teach the world a lesson it needed to learn?
 
2013-05-06 01:34:07 AM

SpiderQueenDemon: Poor crazy lady. It is nice that she is determined, but with about the same effort and rather less...well...being bughouse-nuts, she could really achieve great things. I find it sad that she has what looks like paranoia and a persecution complex.

Crazy, Determined, Intelligent: pick any two. It's like the Mechanic's Rule of fast-cheap-good, but with non-average human beings. Determined and Intelligent gets you Gandhi. Intelligent and Crazy gets you Tesla. Crazy and Determined gets you this lady.

And that is sad, considering with some medication and therapy to fix the Crazy, there might be Intelligent hiding under there somewhere.


It's just paranoid schizophrenia mixed with a heavy dose of insanity.
 
2013-05-06 01:34:59 AM

BullBearMS: SpiderQueenDemon: Poor crazy lady. It is nice that she is determined, but with about the same effort and rather less...well...being bughouse-nuts, she could really achieve great things.

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Did Mother Teresa waste her life, or did she spend it trying to teach the world a lesson it needed to learn?


Mother Teresa spent time actually helping to heal people, not camping on the sidewalk.
 
2013-05-06 01:37:34 AM
Lisa: They call her the cat lady, people say she's crazy just because she has a few-dozen cats. But can anyone who loves animals that much really be crazy?

Just another human interest story that tries to paint someone who's probably mentally ill as a somewhat quirky crusader that has sacrificed a normal life for her message.
 
2013-05-06 01:38:11 AM
CSS: 25 years ago, I went to DC on a school trip. When we went to the White House, our teacher warned us about her. I don't remember the teacher explaining how this is a form of free speech, protesting, or civil disobedience, I think the message was more "crazy woman hasn't left that spot in years, be careful kids." We listened to her and gave her a dollar.

WOW! I can't believe she's still there.
 
2013-05-06 01:38:53 AM
I have pictures with this woman from when I went to Washington D.C. with a government class in 2002 (I was 16).  She was quite a character.  I remember sitting and bullshiating with her for about a half hour because she amused me with all her 'rabble rabble' and I was subtly being an ass by acting like I cared what she was saying and feigning interest in her plight. I don't know if the article mentions it (tl:dr) but she has a wig glued to her helmet she told us because back the in the day (can't remember if it was when she first got there or if it was around 10 years before I spoke to her) she got waffled stomped by the Feds...  I would have figured she'd be long gone or 'they' would have gotten rid of her by now.  I bet it was CIA driving the cab haha not really...

/glad she's still alive
//D.C. is humid as s**t
 
2013-05-06 01:39:14 AM
Not as bad as the falun gong protestors outside the chinese consulate office in vancouver. The city tore it down for the Olympics.

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2013-05-06 01:44:17 AM

fusillade762: RembrandtQEinstein: And this protest has accomplished what exactly? (rhetorical since the answer is obviously nothing)

Protesters weren't able to stop the Iraq war, either. Does that mean they shouldn't have bothered?


Yes. If our governments were compassionate and genuinely concerned about the citizens instead of corporations protests would be influential, but it hasn't been that way since at least the 40's.

Now riots...riots get results.
 
2013-05-06 01:44:49 AM

Khazar-Khum: BullBearMS: SpiderQueenDemon: Poor crazy lady. It is nice that she is determined, but with about the same effort and rather less...well...being bughouse-nuts, she could really achieve great things.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 402x402]

Did Mother Teresa waste her life, or did she spend it trying to teach the world a lesson it needed to learn?

Mother Teresa spent time actually helping to heal people, not camping on the sidewalk.


Mother Teresa spent her life teaching a different message. Love one another. Help one another. She taught by example.

Frankly, it was a waste of her life, since her example didn't cause the world to change, but that doesn't doesn't change the importance of the message.
 
2013-05-06 01:59:33 AM
"stop ISRAELI terrorism"? seriously?

fark that anti-semite
 
2013-05-06 02:03:20 AM

HotWingAgenda: Anyone got a cliffnotes for that meandering wall of text?  I read the Post growing up... but the quality seems to have gone down drastically.


Something something mambo dogface in the banana patch...
 
2013-05-06 02:03:50 AM

xen0blue: "stop ISRAELI terrorism"? seriously?

fark that anti-semite


You missed this one.

www.washingtonpost.com

To be fair, it does have a whole lot of nukes and is strongly against nuclear disarmament. Might not be a Jew thing.
 
2013-05-06 02:05:16 AM
It came long before Occupy camps appeared around the globe, drawing criticism from some who questioned the movement's organization and authenticity.

Oh, Washington Post. You just can't avoid derping for too long, can you?
 
2013-05-06 02:12:17 AM

God-is-a-Taco: It came long before Occupy camps appeared around the globe, drawing criticism from some who questioned the movement's organization and authenticity.

Oh, Washington Post. You just can't avoid derping for too long, can you?


Considering that they employ both Richard Cohen and Jennifer Rubin, it's pretty obvious that the paper has some derp quota that they must fill.
 
2013-05-06 02:13:20 AM
Here is the thing, this protestor is against nuclear weapons.  It is quite arguable that nuclear weapons have prevented widespread world war thanks to their existence and that a world without nuclear weapons may be much more violent and worse off. Some have suggested that nuclear weapons are a stablizing force and their world destroying capability is the only thing that has spared us from world war three by making larger conflicts undesireable leading to reluctance to engage directly in war between major powers. That being said, we don't know for certain that without them the alternative history would have evolved much differently, but you can easily see several points where, without nuclear weapons, a global war may errupted.  If your going to protest against something, say poverty or hunger or something with no redeeming aspects.  Nuclear weapons, for all their destructive nature, may be a postive force.
 
2013-05-06 02:13:27 AM

The One True TheDavid: Skyday:

Peace takes us all to stand together, encompassing truth and love.

Dream on.


Everyone knows peas are acquired with a knife when out of reach.
 
2013-05-06 02:15:56 AM

BullBearMS: SpiderQueenDemon: Poor crazy lady. It is nice that she is determined, but with about the same effort and rather less...well...being bughouse-nuts, she could really achieve great things.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 402x402]

Did Mother Teresa waste her life, or did she spend it trying to teach the world a lesson it needed to learn?


That lesson was "suffering will bring you closer to Jesus, so suffer". The woman was a deluded biatch who would rather see someone in agony than give them painkillers. Because, you know, Jesus.

She openly praised the Duvaliers.

She offered no defense when accused of spending donations to further missionary work instead of improving the care currently being offered in her so-called hospices (see above).

If there is a Hell, the biatch is in it.
 
2013-05-06 02:19:06 AM

Daedalus27: Here is the thing, this protestor is against nuclear weapons.  It is quite arguable that nuclear weapons have prevented widespread world war thanks to their existence and that a world without nuclear weapons may be much more violent and worse off. Some have suggested that nuclear weapons are a stablizing force and their world destroying capability is the only thing that has spared us from world war three by making larger conflicts undesireable leading to reluctance to engage directly in war between major powers. That being said, we don't know for certain that without them the alternative history would have evolved much differently, but you can easily see several points where, without nuclear weapons, a global war may errupted.  If your going to protest against something, say poverty or hunger or something with no redeeming aspects.  Nuclear weapons, for all their destructive nature, may be a postive force.



but bombs are scary and killing people is bad! obviously you are wrong because a woman's emotional response to weapons is more important than reason!

/Si vis pacem, para bellum
 
2013-05-06 02:22:35 AM
The problem with nuclear disarmament is it only ever applies to certain nations.
 
2013-05-06 02:25:16 AM

ArcadianRefugee: BullBearMS: SpiderQueenDemon: Poor crazy lady. It is nice that she is determined, but with about the same effort and rather less...well...being bughouse-nuts, she could really achieve great things.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 402x402]

Did Mother Teresa waste her life, or did she spend it trying to teach the world a lesson it needed to learn?

That lesson was "suffering will bring you closer to Jesus, so suffer". The woman was a deluded biatch who would rather see someone in agony than give them painkillers. Because, you know, Jesus.

She openly praised the Duvaliers.

She offered no defense when accused of spending donations to further missionary work instead of improving the care currently being offered in her so-called hospices (see above).

If there is a Hell, the biatch is in it.



Pretty much this. It's funny how it usually is the Catholic hierarchy that seems the least saintly of the bunch.
 
2013-05-06 02:30:12 AM
BullBearMS:
Did Mother Teresa waste her life, or did she spend it trying to teach the world a lesson it needed to learn?

God forbid the world learns from her lesson.
No more hospitals, just little covenants where people suffer with painful drawn-out deaths to give Jesus Points to the residing nuns.
Can you beat Teresa's top score?
 
2013-05-06 02:31:44 AM

Moonlightfox: The problem with nuclear disarmament is it only ever applies to certain nations.


Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. Russia "loses" plenty of its nukes all the time.
 
2013-05-06 02:33:44 AM

serial_crusher: 'round these parts we call that "being homeless", not "protesting"


Captain Dan: It's about homeless people setting up camp and shouting crazy jibberish at passersby.


Not homeless.

Her health has suffered since she was hit by a cab weeks ago, and the activist-run house that has been her shelter when she's not in the park is endangered.

Yet.
 
2013-05-06 02:41:45 AM

fusillade762: serial_crusher: 'round these parts we call that "being homeless", not "protesting"

Captain Dan: It's about homeless people setting up camp and shouting crazy jibberish at passersby.

Not homeless.

Her health has suffered since she was hit by a cab weeks ago, and the activist-run house that has been her shelter when she's not in the park is endangered.

Yet.


If someone has to avail themself of a homeless shelter when they are not camping on the sidewalk under a temporary structure made of a tarp and an umbrella, they are homeless.
 
2013-05-06 02:48:48 AM

HotWingAgenda: fusillade762: serial_crusher: 'round these parts we call that "being homeless", not "protesting"

Captain Dan: It's about homeless people setting up camp and shouting crazy jibberish at passersby.

Not homeless.

Her health has suffered since she was hit by a cab weeks ago, and the activist-run house that has been her shelter when she's not in the park is endangered.

Yet.

If someone has to avail themself of a homeless shelter when they are not camping on the sidewalk under a temporary structure made of a tarp and an umbrella, they are homeless.


Just because they use the word "shelter" in that sentence does not necessarily make it a "homeless shelter". "Activist-run house" could mean any number of things.
 
2013-05-06 03:17:12 AM

Khazar-Khum: BullBearMS: SpiderQueenDemon: Poor crazy lady. It is nice that she is determined, but with about the same effort and rather less...well...being bughouse-nuts, she could really achieve great things.

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 402x402]

Did Mother Teresa waste her life, or did she spend it trying to teach the world a lesson it needed to learn?

Mother Teresa spent time actually helping to heal people, not camping on the sidewalk.


No, she didn't help heal people.  Quite the opposite.

She helped them die.
 
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