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(News.com.au)   New "no jab, no play" campaign seeks to discriminate against anti-vaxers by forcibly separating their unvaccinated children from vaccinated kids. I bet some people will have a problem with this   (news.com.au) divider line 389
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2013-05-05 08:58:08 PM
We've been doing that in the United States of Freedom and Jesus for quite some time now.
 
2013-05-05 09:04:31 PM
*i'mokaywiththis.jpg*
 
2013-05-05 09:05:14 PM
Good.
 
2013-05-05 09:07:32 PM
Frankly, I think some segregation IS needed in the classroom and playground.

Not based on race, but things like "being an asshole."
 
2013-05-05 09:09:40 PM
Not me.  Get vaccinated you tards.
 
2013-05-05 09:12:00 PM

NewportBarGuy: We've been doing that in the United States of Freedom and Jesus for quite some time now.


GOOD.

Your right to swing ends where my nose begins. And that includes your filthy walking mini-incubators of death and disease
 
2013-05-05 09:15:30 PM

hardinparamedic: NewportBarGuy: We've been doing that in the United States of Freedom and Jesus for quite some time now.

GOOD.

Your right to swing ends where my nose begins. And that includes your filthy walking mini-incubators of death and disease


I guy I used to work with won't vaccinate his kids. Always talked about how they were getting sick. Couldn't seem to ever figure out why. He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy
 
2013-05-05 09:17:36 PM

puffy999: Frankly, I think some segregation IS needed in the classroom and playground.


You don't work with kids, do you?
 
2013-05-05 09:19:30 PM

Peter von Nostrand: He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy


This was a quick and dirty I did for another thread. It should make an appearance every time her name is mentioned, IMHO.

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2013-05-05 09:19:47 PM

doglover: You don't work with kids, do you?


The correct answer was, "don't be fatuous, Puffy."
 
2013-05-05 09:20:20 PM
If the quarantines don't work, we should have the "firebombl your house" provision.
 
2013-05-05 09:21:16 PM

Peter von Nostrand: I guy I used to work with won't vaccinate his kids. Always talked about how they were getting sick. Couldn't seem to ever figure out why. He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy


I wonder if there are vaccines against the illnesses he was talking about.
 
2013-05-05 09:25:56 PM

Peter von Nostrand: I guy I used to work with won't vaccinate his kids. Always talked about how they were getting sick. Couldn't seem to ever figure out why. He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy


Those two things may not be related, depending on the illness.
 
2013-05-05 09:26:51 PM
I was at the park with my son not four hours ago when we left because there was some little girl coughing like she had the plague and snotting all over the playground equipment. It's not enough to vaccinate your kids, keep 'em inside when they're sick!

(But also, you know, vaccinate them.)
 
2013-05-05 09:27:00 PM

puffy999: doglover: You don't work with kids, do you?

The correct answer was, "don't be fatuous, Puffy."


Kids could teach the Aryan Nation a thing or two about discrimination. It's a natural thing for kids to form in and out groups that are iron-clad.
 
2013-05-05 09:27:12 PM

Relatively Obscure: Those two things may not be related, depending on the illness.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-05-05 09:34:14 PM
The policy of my son's school district on unvaccinated kids was to bar them from school when the health dept. officially declared an outbreak of some relevant disease.
 
2013-05-05 09:35:59 PM

Relatively Obscure: Good.


This.
 
2013-05-05 09:42:26 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Peter von Nostrand: I guy I used to work with won't vaccinate his kids. Always talked about how they were getting sick. Couldn't seem to ever figure out why. He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy

I wonder if there are vaccines against the illnesses he was talking about.


Relatively Obscure: Peter von Nostrand: I guy I used to work with won't vaccinate his kids. Always talked about how they were getting sick. Couldn't seem to ever figure out why. He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy

Those two things may not be related, depending on the illness.


There is no vaccination for parental stupidity however there is something for rotavirus which was the last thing one of the kids got before he transferred station
 
2013-05-05 09:58:42 PM
Then get your kids vaccinated you asshats.
 
2013-05-05 10:07:35 PM
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2013-05-05 10:42:53 PM
good, unvaccinated shiats are a risk to others. some people who take vaccines don't have them be effective, some people cannot get vaccinated for legit medical reasons. people who aren't vaccinated because their parents are dumb farks should be separated.
 
2013-05-05 10:52:52 PM
I hope this picks up in the United States.  It's mind-boggling that we allow unvaccinated children into public gathering spaces because of "moral reasons."

The CDC already has statutory quarantine authority.  They should force these kids to stay indoors at all times, list them in an online directory, and place signs in front of their houses warning neighbors.
 
2013-05-05 11:16:25 PM
I am okay with this.

Wish it would happen here.
 
2013-05-05 11:18:11 PM

Captain Dan: I hope this picks up in the United States.  It's mind-boggling that we allow unvaccinated children into public gathering spaces because of "moral reasons."

The CDC already has statutory quarantine authority.  They should force these kids to stay indoors at all times, list them in an online directory, and place signs in front of their houses warning neighbors.


I thought we already had that in the US?

I remember in elementary school our teacher announced that there would be a new boy coming in to our class. We were all uber excited to meet the new kid and show him around school. When he didn't show for a week, we asked our teacher what was up. "Oh, he didn't get all his shots, so he can't come to school until he does."

Needless to say, we all freaked out that this unvaccinated kid was trying to get into our school and make us sick. When he did finally show we were all suspicious that he didn't get his shots, so we kept our distance from him. He didn't stay long and was gone within the year.

/Vaccinate your kids people. Even other kids won't tolerate that shiat.
 
2013-05-05 11:22:12 PM

ng2810: I thought we already had that in the US?


There are several exemptions in place, the most common one that anti-vaxxers take advantage of is the religious freedom exemption for people who's religious doctrine will not allow them to intake any material made from certain animals.

The problem is that the people who CANNOT take a vaccine for a legitimate medical reason - compromised immune system, history of Guillian-Barre syndrome, true allergies - depend on the vaccinated majority to impart a herd immunity to protect them. There are legitimate reasons NOT to take a vaccine.

"I don't like needles" is not one of them. There's this magical thing called EMLA that makes the shots painless in that case. " I durr want mah kid getting autism" isn't one either.
 
2013-05-05 11:27:08 PM

Peter von Nostrand: I guy I used to work with won't vaccinate his kids. Always talked about how they were getting sick. Couldn't seem to ever figure out why. He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy


Only moron I know that refused to vaccinate her kids ended up with a kid in ICU for four weeks after contracting whooping cough, whom almost died.

Funnily enough, she vaccinates all of her kids now.

Anti-vaccination types are morons, all of them. It's a shame it's the kids that have to deal with the outcomes of ignorant moron parents.
 
2013-05-05 11:41:36 PM
WHAT? They weren't doing this already?
 
2013-05-05 11:43:40 PM
I'm not going to take a big "fark your kid let him die of the mumps" stance here, but what exactly would be the point of segregation?  Oh I suppose to protect the unvaccinated ones?  I suppose its not the kids fault it was unlucky enough to be born to morons.
 
2013-05-05 11:44:08 PM

NewportBarGuy: We've been doing that in the United States of Freedom and Jesus for quite some time now.


We have exemptions for religious or philosophical reasons in 48 out of 50 states.  Unvaccinated kids attend public schools with alarming regularity.

Only Mississippi and West Virginia do not allow anything other than medically necessary exemptions
 
2013-05-05 11:46:31 PM

meat0918: Only Mississippi and West Virginia do not allow anything other than medically necessary exemptions


Quite possibly one of the only things those states have ever done right.
 
2013-05-05 11:46:44 PM
There's a measles outbreak in the UK thanks to the anti-vaxxers. Since our 5-month-old is too young for that shot, this is relevant to my interests
 
2013-05-05 11:47:41 PM

hardinparamedic: Peter von Nostrand: He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy

This was a quick and dirty I did for another thread. It should make an appearance every time her name is mentioned, IMHO.

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Unfortunately, more people are probably killed by nurses who can't read labels on meds correctly.

If my chart said allergic to Zantac, why did you shoot some into my IV and then go "Oh, that's just some ranitidine lol"? Way to snooze your way through pharmacotherapeutics. Thanks for the rash, Nurse Dingbat.
 
2013-05-05 11:48:03 PM
Good; you fark with herd immunity, find a new herd.
 
2013-05-05 11:48:12 PM
I recommend getting the vaccines and skipping the public school.
 
2013-05-05 11:48:31 PM
Interesting, isn't it?

Basically an extension of the "Shunning" form of social correction practiced in small communities in the past.
 
2013-05-05 11:48:55 PM
The parents who chose to not vaccinate their kids are parasites, plain and simple.
 
2013-05-05 11:49:19 PM
I think those who are the lesser number between the anti-vaxers and those who can't have vaccinations because of some wierd syndrome or immuno deficiency thing should have to go play somehwere else by themselves.

I also think the one kid in school who doesn't do well around peanuts should stay home but that's just me.


Whatever gives more people the most freedoms to do whatevs.
 
2013-05-05 11:50:22 PM

hardinparamedic: meat0918: Only Mississippi and West Virginia do not allow anything other than medically necessary exemptions

Quite possibly one of the only things those states have ever done right.


Yep.  There are definitely cases where being "backwards" is the absolutely correct thing.  This is one of them.
 
2013-05-05 11:51:10 PM
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2013-05-05 11:51:44 PM

Giltric: I think those who are the lesser number between the anti-vaxers and those who can't have vaccinations because of some wierd syndrome or immuno deficiency thing should have to go play somehwere else by themselves.


Kids who can't get vaccines for medical reasons are the reason the other kids have to get them.
 
2013-05-05 11:52:21 PM
Fine by me. Being skeptical of new information (or even developing newer theories) is fine, but vaccines are proven science. Deal with it, tards.
 
2013-05-05 11:52:30 PM

thisisarepeat: what exactly would be the point of segregation? Oh I suppose to protect the unvaccinated ones? I suppose its not the kids fault it was unlucky enough to be born to morons.


Vaccines are not 100% effective. So the un-vaccinated kids can infect children of un-retarded parents.
 
2013-05-05 11:52:33 PM

FunkOut: If my chart said allergic to Zantac, why did you shoot some into my IV and then go "Oh, that's just some ranitidine lol"? Way to snooze your way through pharmacotherapeutics. Thanks for the rash, Nurse Dingbat.


You know, if you'd have gotten Nurse Dingbat to give you some penicillin, that rash would have cleared right up.

And next time, glove it before you love it, man.
 
2013-05-05 11:53:38 PM

thisisarepeat: I'm not going to take a big "fark your kid let him die of the mumps" stance here, but what exactly would be the point of segregation?  Oh I suppose to protect the unvaccinated ones?  I suppose its not the kids fault it was unlucky enough to be born to morons.


Yeah - I'm not getting the point either. It's like making unhelmeted motorcyclists ride on separate roads.
 
2013-05-05 11:56:03 PM

snuff3r: Peter von Nostrand: I guy I used to work with won't vaccinate his kids. Always talked about how they were getting sick. Couldn't seem to ever figure out why. He really hated it when I'd bring up his spokesperson, Jenny McCarthy

Only moron I know that refused to vaccinate her kids ended up with a kid in ICU for four weeks after contracting whooping cough, whom almost died.

Funnily enough, she vaccinates all of her kids now.

Anti-vaccination types are morons, all of them. It's a shame it's the kids that have to deal with the outcomes of ignorant moron parents.


If you substitute him for whom and it still makes sense, then whom is the correct choice. In this case, "Him almost died" does not work. "He almost died" is the right choice, so who is the word you should have chosen.

/You're welcome.
 
2013-05-05 11:57:04 PM

hardinparamedic: FunkOut: If my chart said allergic to Zantac, why did you shoot some into my IV and then go "Oh, that's just some ranitidine lol"? Way to snooze your way through pharmacotherapeutics. Thanks for the rash, Nurse Dingbat.

You know, if you'd have gotten Nurse Dingbat to give you some penicillin, that rash would have cleared right up.

And next time, glove it before you love it, man.


Naw, next time I'm going with natural medicine and by that I mean taping some mouldy bread on.
 
2013-05-05 11:57:27 PM
As others have said before me, the point of only allowing medically necessary exemptions is that it protects the kids who do have medically necessary exemptions... as well as others who are immunocompromised in the population at large.

Wanna use the public school system, well, get your kid frakkin vaccinated.
 
2013-05-05 11:57:36 PM

hardinparamedic: ng2810: I thought we already had that in the US?

There are several exemptions in place, the most common one that anti-vaxxers take advantage of is the religious freedom exemption for people who's religious doctrine will not allow them to intake any material made from certain animals.

The problem is that the people who CANNOT take a vaccine for a legitimate medical reason - compromised immune system, history of Guillian-Barre syndrome, true allergies - depend on the vaccinated majority to impart a herd immunity to protect them. There are legitimate reasons NOT to take a vaccine.

"I don't like needles" is not one of them. There's this magical thing called EMLA that makes the shots painless in that case. " I durr want mah kid getting autism" isn't one either.


From what I understand, bullshiat exemptions aren't valid for whooping cough now in CA, and TB tests have always been 100% required before entering public school
 
2013-05-05 11:58:20 PM
Put a clause in the law which also forbids public funding for paying for caskets and burial expenses for those kids.
If there is a form for declaring the decision to not vaccinate, include a mandatory checkbox "I understand that if I do not vaccinate, I will pay for the casket and burial expenses."
 
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