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(TMZ)   Justin Bieber attacked during Dubai concert. Lip syncing and music continue uninterrupted   (tmz.com) divider line 108
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2013-05-06 12:42:13 AM  
I worked a Diseased Monkey Boy show a couple of years ago- pretty much rule of thumb was headset mic=lip sync. Was cable page for show video in the downstage pit in front of the subwoofers. Pissed blood for two days but my kidney stones stopped bothering me.
 
2013-05-06 12:45:24 AM  

Digitalstrange: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Why anyone continues to pay actual money for any concert, knowing full well that it will most likely be lip-synced is beyond my comprehension.  Seriously, if you just want recorded music played at you, just go buy the album on iTunes and save yourself some cash.

Depends on who you listen to, but if you are going to a pop show with a singer who dances around onstage in a choreographed show then they are going to have to lip synch. Remembering a complicated dance routines every step and the lyrics to a song all while trying to breathe regularly enough to do both just aint gonna happen.


Linkin Park did the same thing. The blonde dude ran around so much they ended up switching to a MiniDisc player hooked up to the board so he could craaaaaaawwwwwwwllllll in his skkkkkkkkkiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnn.

Difference is, pop music is about a show. Nobody that actually likes music listens to Beyonce or Katy Perry or Rhianna so those fans wold rather see a celebrity dance. But rock music is supposed to be about making music. So, triple fark Linkin Park, and anyone else on the lip-synch trip.
 
2013-05-06 01:00:38 AM  

Scrotastic Method: Digitalstrange: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Why anyone continues to pay actual money for any concert, knowing full well that it will most likely be lip-synced is beyond my comprehension.  Seriously, if you just want recorded music played at you, just go buy the album on iTunes and save yourself some cash.

Depends on who you listen to, but if you are going to a pop show with a singer who dances around onstage in a choreographed show then they are going to have to lip synch. Remembering a complicated dance routines every step and the lyrics to a song all while trying to breathe regularly enough to do both just aint gonna happen.

Linkin Park did the same thing. The blonde dude ran around so much they ended up switching to a MiniDisc player hooked up to the board so he could craaaaaaawwwwwwwllllll in his skkkkkkkkkiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnn.

Difference is, pop music is about a show. Nobody that actually likes music listens to Beyonce or Katy Perry or Rhianna so those fans wold rather see a celebrity dance. But rock music is supposed to be about making music. So, triple fark Linkin Park, and anyone else on the lip-synch trip.


God do I hate Linkin Park.. They used to be a tolerable little alt-rock version of 311... Then the entire band had sex with Skrillex and turned into some overly smug thinking they're the dance club version of Radiohead douchebags.
 
2013-05-06 01:03:40 AM  
After a bit of quick Googling, I've found several lists/articles of artists who do/did lip-synch and/or autotune...I wonder if someone could compile a list of artists who don't?

Effects in the studio are one thing, but live, I expect the artist to be actually making the music I'm hearing. I'd like to see artists who do, get some props for it.
 
2013-05-06 01:04:54 AM  

Farty McPooPants: Rivulets of piss.


Isn't that his band's name?
 
2013-05-06 01:08:14 AM  
I'm certain Miss Beiber was able to take care of the situation ...

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-06 01:15:30 AM  

Digitalstrange: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Why anyone continues to pay actual money for any concert, knowing full well that it will most likely be lip-synced is beyond my comprehension.  Seriously, if you just want recorded music played at you, just go buy the album on iTunes and save yourself some cash.

Depends on who you listen to, but if you are going to a pop show with a singer who dances around onstage in a choreographed show then they are going to have to lip synch. Remembering a complicated dance routines every step and the lyrics to a song all while trying to breathe regularly enough to do both just aint gonna happen.


But actors in Broadway musicals do it all the time.  Sometimes multiple times per night, 6-7 nights a week.  Paying $50 to see a "singer" lip sync to a CD of his music is a pure rip off.
 
2013-05-06 01:32:34 AM  

Digitalstrange: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Why anyone continues to pay actual money for any concert, knowing full well that it will most likely be lip-synced is beyond my comprehension.  Seriously, if you just want recorded music played at you, just go buy the album on iTunes and save yourself some cash.

Depends on who you listen to, but if you are going to a pop show with a singer who dances around onstage in a choreographed show then they are going to have to lip synch. Remembering a complicated dance routines every step and the lyrics to a song all while trying to breathe regularly enough to do both just aint gonna happen.


If a "performer" can't sing and dance then get the fark off the stage.
 
2013-05-06 01:40:23 AM  

Dhabu: After a bit of quick Googling, I've found several lists/articles of artists who do/did lip-synch and/or autotune...I wonder if someone could compile a list of artists who don't?

Effects in the studio are one thing, but live, I expect the artist to be actually making the music I'm hearing. I'd like to see artists who do, get some props for it.


If you are talking about "effects" in the sense of reverb, compression, gating, etc. DigiDesign mixing consoles used for live sound reinforcement run in part on Pro Tools. Any software effect you'd use in the studio can be used live. In the case of Beiber he uses studio stems and alternate lead vocal tracks- he can back out of a live vocal and FOH switches him to the track vocal. Since the whole stage band is playing along with the tracks it isn't readily apparent when he goes memorex.
 
2013-05-06 01:49:09 AM  
I hate to defend this kid, but no. The music continued, but he clearly stopped singing, and a backup singer continued.
 
2013-05-06 02:00:04 AM  
For some reason this reminds me of the MTV Metallica Icon Concert. They would have newer bands play Metallica music. The problem is new groups no longer play guitar solo's or more than 3 cords. So they had one hell of a time finding bands.

I dont remember what concert I was at but I was behind the sound board and about every 3rd song they would playback drums. You could tell because the vu meter on the deck would only move when the drums where played.

My cousins friend got embarrassed by a situation like this. He was the drummer on the whole SNL lip synch thing. Lost his gig.
 
2013-05-06 02:04:03 AM  
It's not that hard to find a concert where bands still play real music. Step one: don't go to an arena. If you're going to see a concert anywhere where any sort of sport is played professionally, assume you're going to see a 'performance' rather than a concert, and that the sound will probably suck. Likewise, the price of your ticket is inversely proportional to the chance the performer will actually be singing live. Find a few free open mic nights nearby, go to the one in the darkest crap-hole, with the fewest number of people, and that will be where you'll find the best concert of your life. Probably playing a ukulele, and singing about mayonnaise.
 
2013-05-06 02:16:08 AM  
Part of the problem is that recording artists get all artsy-fartsy in the studio, and fans expect that stuff to be reproduced live. It can't be exactly replicated, so the "artists" just lip-sync to it. Plus it lets 'em dance around without affecting the vocals, when in reality they'd be gasping for breath.
 
2013-05-06 02:29:50 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Digitalstrange: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Why anyone continues to pay actual money for any concert, knowing full well that it will most likely be lip-synced is beyond my comprehension.  Seriously, if you just want recorded music played at you, just go buy the album on iTunes and save yourself some cash.

Depends on who you listen to, but if you are going to a pop show with a singer who dances around onstage in a choreographed show then they are going to have to lip synch. Remembering a complicated dance routines every step and the lyrics to a song all while trying to breathe regularly enough to do both just aint gonna happen.


If a "performer" can't sing and dance then get the fark off the stage.


Seconded.
 
2013-05-06 02:35:38 AM  
Syria gets attacked. Bieber gets attacked, and as usual no one gave the US a heads up.
 
2013-05-06 02:38:00 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: I'm certain Miss Beiber was able to take care of the situation ...

img.photobucket.com


"No wonder you've been a cranky baby today - your loaded diaper is making your pants fall down and it's time for your nap!"
 
2013-05-06 02:48:18 AM  
the pop star was on stage in Dubai tonight before being hauled off by security

I don't know anything about this particular pop tart, but I probably approve.
 
2013-05-06 02:54:24 AM  
If this was some kind of extremists attempt to punish the west, they have no idea what they are doing.
 
2013-05-06 02:56:37 AM  
I feel so sorry for that poor piano and hope that it recovers.
 
2013-05-06 03:15:06 AM  

il Dottore: I worked a Diseased Monkey Boy show a couple of years ago- pretty much rule of thumb was headset mic=lip sync. Was cable page for show video in the downstage pit in front of the subwoofers. Pissed blood for two days but my kidney stones stopped bothering me.


Oddly enough, that's exactly the treatment they give for kidney stones. They stick you in a bath of water with subs pounding. Transfers energy, breaks kidney stones, etc.

//Not sure if "that's the joke" or not.
 
2013-05-06 04:11:45 AM  
If I were the Biebs, I would be so tempted to get a lookalike to prance around on stage for a mere fraction of what I was getting paid.
 
2013-05-06 04:32:23 AM  
Couple of years ago I took the kids to the Pussycat Dolls in Luxembourg with Lady Gaga as warm-up (yes she warmed up for PCD) right before she got huge.  Anyway, I'm firmly convinced that not a single person involved actually sang or played a not the entire evening.  All just computers, lasers, and dancing.
 
2013-05-06 06:11:19 AM  

lewismarktwo: If I were the Biebs, I would be so tempted to get a lookalike to prance around on stage for a mere fraction of what I was getting paid.


Yeah, if I had regular access to easy sex, I'd definitely outsource it. Too much work.
 
2013-05-06 06:20:57 AM  

NobleHam: lewismarktwo: If I were the Biebs, I would be so tempted to get a lookalike to prance around on stage for a mere fraction of what I was getting paid.

Yeah, if I had regular access to easy sex, I'd definitely outsource it. Too much work.


Do you think he can only get sex from concert goers in the seconds immediately after a concert?
 
2013-05-06 06:38:51 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: Amnestic: That piano seemed very bouncy.

Yeah, I thought so, too. Are modern show pianos really that light, or was it just a stage prop?


Going with stage prop.
 
2013-05-06 06:39:42 AM  
Please tell me he was decapitated
 
2013-05-06 07:47:59 AM  
I remember going to see NIN live a few decades ago and wondering why I didn't just find out the song listing and sit at home with my CD player programmed while filling my apartment with a smoke machine.
 
2013-05-06 08:41:43 AM  

Rickj: Digitalstrange: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Why anyone continues to pay actual money for any concert, knowing full well that it will most likely be lip-synced is beyond my comprehension.  Seriously, if you just want recorded music played at you, just go buy the album on iTunes and save yourself some cash.

Depends on who you listen to, but if you are going to a pop show with a singer who dances around onstage in a choreographed show then they are going to have to lip synch. Remembering a complicated dance routines every step and the lyrics to a song all while trying to breathe regularly enough to do both just aint gonna happen.

But actors in Broadway musicals do it all the time.  Sometimes multiple times per night, 6-7 nights a week.  Paying $50 to see a "singer" lip sync to a CD of his music is a pure rip off.


Came here to say this, I saw an actor perform a very involved song and dance during Wicked.
 
2013-05-06 08:42:08 AM  
ATTACKED!!!!! or hugged from behind by a poor crazed fan...  you be the judge.
 
2013-05-06 08:49:00 AM  

mjones73: Fark Me To Tears: Amnestic: That piano seemed very bouncy.

Yeah, I thought so, too. Are modern show pianos really that light, or was it just a stage prop?

The piano was lip syncing also.


Tha piano has been syncing
The Popstar needs a beard
The Bouncers are all meatheads
The fans, they have been cheated
Tha piano has been syncing

/ too tired to carry on
 
2013-05-06 08:51:11 AM  

Repo Man: Now Maynard from Tool, he knows how to handle this sort of thing.


So does Randy Blythe.

/too soon?
 
2013-05-06 08:57:59 AM  
Go home, fake piano, you're drunk.
 
2013-05-06 09:28:44 AM  
I worked for a band once that used empty grand piano cabinets with electronic keyboards mounted inside.

Anyway, there's nothing even remotely real or authentic about a Bieber concert.  With the lip-syncing and dancing, live performances these days are much more like watching someone do a Jazzercize routine than an actual concert.
 
2013-05-06 09:40:23 AM  

HotWingAgenda: the pop star was on stage in Dubai tonight before being hauled off by security

I don't know anything about this particular pop tart, but I probably approve.


t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-06 09:44:24 AM  

cards fan by association: Rickj: Digitalstrange: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Why anyone continues to pay actual money for any concert, knowing full well that it will most likely be lip-synced is beyond my comprehension.  Seriously, if you just want recorded music played at you, just go buy the album on iTunes and save yourself some cash.

Depends on who you listen to, but if you are going to a pop show with a singer who dances around onstage in a choreographed show then they are going to have to lip synch. Remembering a complicated dance routines every step and the lyrics to a song all while trying to breathe regularly enough to do both just aint gonna happen.

But actors in Broadway musicals do it all the time.  Sometimes multiple times per night, 6-7 nights a week.  Paying $50 to see a "singer" lip sync to a CD of his music is a pure rip off.

Came here to say this, I saw an actor perform a very involved song and dance during Wicked.


I think Pink is one of the few pop stars that still legitimately sings while dancing, or in this case, performing trapeze stunts.

http://vimeo.com/59802821

Incredible. Unless she recorded a breathy, strained backing vocal track, that's her. I can respect that.
 
2013-05-06 10:43:50 AM  
Some Farker mentioned in a previous Bieber thread that he was "the Bob Dylan of this generation". That's a pretty sad comment on our times when you stop to think about it.
 
2013-05-06 11:17:47 AM  

styckx: The person who did that will most likely serve 500 years in prison.. Aren't the laws in Dubai borderline insane?


Yeah, even Dubai bends the laws for Bieber.

He tried to get in a club there, where the age to get in is 21 because 21 is the age you can drink alcohol. Funny that the US has the same backwards thinking about the drinking age, but that's another topic. Anyway, they bent the rules and let him in.
 
2013-05-06 11:33:57 AM  

offmymeds: Some Farker mentioned in a previous Bieber thread that he was "the Bob Dylan of this generation". That's a pretty sad comment on our times when you stop to think about it.


Yeah, Bieber probably steals a lot less.
 
2013-05-06 12:03:21 PM  

Ebbelwoi: Couple of years ago I took the kids to the Pussycat Dolls in Luxembourg with Lady Gaga as warm-up (yes she warmed up for PCD) right before she got huge.  Anyway, I'm firmly convinced that not a single person involved actually sang or played a not the entire evening.  All just computers, lasers, and dancing.


If she did then Lady Gaga does not lip-synch during her performances now. She also does have and use real pianos (Baby Grands!) on tour with her as well.
 
2013-05-06 12:29:03 PM  
You can tell if it's lip synced if your favorite hook on the piano, guitar, bagpipes or whatever sounds different live.  It will tend to be slightly off tempo, louder/softer, non-existent, done with a different instrument, or vocalized somewhat different from the studio recording.   You'd have to be a big fan who really listens to the music to tell.  I can tell immediately if they're not lip syncing, however I often need to listen and watch very closely if I suspect it as you could just have the band on really good night, but usually there's going to be a slip, missed note, altered lyrics, somewhere.

If you don't hear any change at all from the record, for each and every song, it's probably lip synced.

Now what's up with those local "karaoke cover bands" that I'm seeing lately who play live along with some pre-recorded music as well?
 
2013-05-06 12:43:43 PM  

offmymeds: Some Farker mentioned in a previous Bieber thread that he was "the Bob Dylan of this generation". That's a pretty sad comment on our times when you stop to think about it.


The only thing Bob and Justin have in common is that both have lunatic fans that will root through their garbage.
 
2013-05-06 01:00:33 PM  

thesloppy: It's not that hard to find a concert where bands still play real music. Step one: don't go to an arena.


Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters would like a word with you.
 
2013-05-06 01:04:11 PM  

offmymeds: Some Farker mentioned in a previous Bieber thread that he was "the Bob Dylan of this generation". That's a pretty sad comment on our times when you stop to think about it.


True. I was trying for "ironic", but only achieved "pathetic". :)
 
2013-05-06 02:23:33 PM  

Scrotastic Method: But rock music is supposed to be about making music


www.nepr.net
 
2013-05-06 02:34:34 PM  

Abe Vig-Yoda: I think Pink is one of the few pop stars that still legitimately sings while dancing, or in this case, performing trapeze stunts.

http://vimeo.com/59802821

Incredible. Unless she recorded a breathy, strained backing vocal track, that's her. I can respect that.


Just saw her at Mohegan Sun last month. She was definitely singing live, stopped the show a couple of times because there was a tech problem, ended up singing farking acapella for a song, and nailed it. Chatted throughout the show with the band, too. Live mic.
 
2013-05-06 02:39:43 PM  

LewDux: Scrotastic Method: But rock music is supposed to be about making music

[www.nepr.net image 850x631]


Pop music =/ rock music
 
2013-05-06 02:59:29 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: I remember going to see NIN live a few decades ago and wondering why I didn't just find out the song listing and sit at home with my CD player programmed while filling my apartment with a smoke machine.


Lived in Cleveland in the 80's and worked with Trent as he was putting together Pretty Hate Machine. Said he needed another keyboardist for the live show so I referred a friend of mine. He came back insulted that all Trent wanted him to do was look cool behind the EMU and swap discs in time to load the next sample bank for the sequencer.
 
2013-05-06 03:02:38 PM  

mjohnson71: LewDux: Scrotastic Method: But rock music is supposed to be about making music

[www.nepr.net image 850x631]

Pop music =/ rock music


Pop music = profile.ak.fbcdn.net rock music ?
 
2013-05-06 05:47:56 PM  

G. Gordon Libbie: SockMonkeyHolocaust: I remember going to see NIN live a few decades ago and wondering why I didn't just find out the song listing and sit at home with my CD player programmed while filling my apartment with a smoke machine.

Lived in Cleveland in the 80's and worked with Trent as he was putting together Pretty Hate Machine. Said he needed another keyboardist for the live show so I referred a friend of mine. He came back insulted that all Trent wanted him to do was look cool behind the EMU and swap discs in time to load the next sample bank for the sequencer.


This is an awesome story and does not surprise me in the least. I am not taking anything away from NIN/Reznor because I still like his earlier output but it was just boring.
 
2013-05-06 06:51:14 PM  

Cluckity: Go home, fake piano, you're drunk.


assets.rollingstone.com
The piano has been drinking?
 
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