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(U.S. Navy)   In case you thought you had fallen into a vortex and woke up in a crazy movie about a dystopian future, don't worry, it's not like the Navy plans to build Skynet or anything. Oh wait   (navy.mil) divider line 48
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2013-05-05 05:46:54 PM
at least its' not Cool Spot

www.consoleclassix.com
 
2013-05-05 05:55:46 PM
I'm guessing the don't watch much Battlestar Galactica, either.
 
2013-05-05 05:59:42 PM
The telecom tech in me needs more acronyms.
 
2013-05-05 06:20:19 PM
Feral AI any century now...
 
2013-05-05 07:25:20 PM
Hmm a single common communications protocol for all drones across all services. I wonder if there would be any benefit in jamming that.
 
2013-05-05 07:29:09 PM

vossiewulf: Hmm a single common communications protocol for all drones across all services. I wonder if there would be any benefit in jamming that.


Single protocol != single channel. It could be a signal spread across 15 frequencies all encrypted via PN codes that would make the signal look like noise to a scanner. Or something else equally hard to monkey with.

Don't worry though. When you find the modem line to dial in, try "Joshua" as a log/pass. That'll probably work.
 
2013-05-05 07:43:16 PM

unlikely: Single protocol != single channel.


Yeah I'm aware of that. But considering manned aircraft are going to largely disappear and therefore the vast majority of the US' convential force projection will be under control of a single communications protocol, that protocol is going to be a big fat jamming target and the serious state level players are very likely to come up with a solution.
 
2013-05-05 07:51:54 PM

unlikely: vossiewulf: Hmm a single common communications protocol for all drones across all services. I wonder if there would be any benefit in jamming that.

Single protocol != single channel. It could be a signal spread across 15 frequencies all encrypted via PN codes that would make the signal look like noise to a scanner. Or something else equally hard to monkey with.

Don't worry though. When you find the modem line to dial in, try "Joshua" as a log/pass. That'll probably work.


the password is not Joshua, it is WOPR.
and the game your supposed to play is CHESS
 
2013-05-05 07:56:27 PM
Dystopian futures stopped being cool in about 1996

/Fark spell check sees  Dystopian  as Utopian welcome to the future
 
2013-05-05 07:58:48 PM
Login Name is USER.  Password is PASSWORD.
Now, if the Password was 12345...you can get all the air you want.
 
2013-05-05 08:02:01 PM

unlikely: Don't worry though. When you find the modem line to dial in, try "Joshua" as a log/pass. That'll probably work.


Beat me to it. Oh well, since I have this image URL in my clipboard already I may as well use it.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-05 08:03:06 PM

vossiewulf: Hmm a single common communications protocol for all drones across all services. I wonder if there would be any benefit in jamming that.


Hijacking is where the real fun would be.
 
2013-05-05 08:05:31 PM
What could possibly go.....
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-05 08:08:14 PM
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-05 08:20:35 PM
"Some day in the near future you'll have a Sailor controlling an Air Force unit's unmanned system, or an Airman sitting at a desk controlling a naval unmanned system or a Marine controlling an Army platform," said Chief of Naval Research Rear Adm. Matthew Klunder. "That's the kind of ability we will have with this new Common Control System-that's our future."

Or a civilian contractor shooting down Iranian airliners while his military overseer is halfway across the country chatting up some uniformed opposite sex.

/we currently use civilian contractors to fly drones for the military and the intelligence community.  I guess there's no war crime committed if it's a civilian contractor doing the hit for Uncle Sam
 
2013-05-05 08:26:42 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: we currently use civilian contractors to fly drones for the military and the intelligence community.


Are you serious? That is a very, very bad idea.
 
2013-05-05 08:30:27 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Hijacking is where the real fun would be.


Yeah thankfully that's much less likely. And shouldn't you be driving a '64 Malibu someplace?
 
2013-05-05 08:37:04 PM
wait till it connects with a russian server and decides it no longer wants humans around, except for a handful it will torture
 
2013-05-05 08:41:19 PM
You know why I'm not worried? Coding is complex as fark and the writer of the article couldn't even spell 'proprietary' right. No way they can actually code anything so sophisticated it will destroy humanity. Instead UAVs will probably try and braid people's hair or something.
 
2013-05-05 08:45:55 PM
Doesn't the US military already have a system called SkyNet?  Some sort of battlefield management system if I remember.  I know here in the UK we have a system called SkyNet, it's used to fly drones and similar activities.
 
2013-05-05 08:48:06 PM
Not worried, because it'll never happen.  Not for lack of trying, you understand, but because the way this sort of thing works is that by the time another decade or so has gone by the thing will be several tens of billions overbudget, years behind schedule, and incapable of turning on a DVD player.
 
2013-05-05 09:04:01 PM

Vaneshi: Doesn't the US military already have a system called SkyNet?  Some sort of battlefield management system if I remember.  I know here in the UK we have a system called SkyNet, it's used to fly drones and similar activities.


They had FBCB2 when I was in. They must've upgraded that by now.
 
2013-05-05 09:11:16 PM

vossiewulf: And shouldn't you be driving a '64 Malibu someplace?


Shortly after the profile pic was taken it was stolen. Been looking for it ever since.
 
2013-05-05 09:11:26 PM

INeedAName: You know why I'm not worried? Coding is complex as fark and the writer of the article couldn't even spell 'proprietary' right. No way they can actually code anything so sophisticated it will destroy humanity. Instead UAVs will probably try and braid people's hair or something.


Since when is destruction sophisticated?
 
2013-05-05 09:19:22 PM
That is an incredibly bad idea.
 
2013-05-05 09:32:43 PM
"It will run on any type of platform or hardware, and it can overlay existing systems running on propriety software to make them work with any others."

So suddenly Windows, Macs, UNIX, Linux, VAX, Playstation and XBox are going to play well with each other? Not believing this for a second. Even if there was a programming god that could figure this out, they'd still have to get past the phalanx of copyright attorneys.
 
2013-05-05 09:35:42 PM

loonatic112358: wait till it connects with a russian server and decides it no longer wants humans around, except for a handful it will torture


no problem, along will come a third variety
 
2013-05-05 09:36:24 PM
They have racist Mountain Dew commercial.
 
2013-05-05 09:53:52 PM
They're already controlling cars, so why not drones.

blog.davis-moore.com
 
2013-05-05 09:57:53 PM

NewportBarGuy: Vaneshi: Doesn't the US military already have a system called SkyNet?  Some sort of battlefield management system if I remember.  I know here in the UK we have a system called SkyNet, it's used to fly drones and similar activities.

They had FBCB2 when I was in. They must've upgraded that by now.


HA, you have good jokes!
 
2013-05-05 10:00:14 PM

J. Frank Parnell: vossiewulf: Hmm a single common communications protocol for all drones across all services. I wonder if there would be any benefit in jamming that.

Hijacking is where the real fun would be.


Wasn't that an episode of "Chuck"?
 
2013-05-05 10:18:10 PM

TheotherMIguy: They had FBCB2 when I was in. They must've upgraded that by now.

HA, you have good jokes!


I thought the best training we got was the plywood HMMWVs with Atari attack software. Stationary, in a hangar. I learned so much! I think the local arcade has better steering feedback.
 
2013-05-05 10:22:27 PM

moothemagiccow: INeedAName: You know why I'm not worried? Coding is complex as fark and the writer of the article couldn't even spell 'proprietary' right. No way they can actually code anything so sophisticated it will destroy humanity. Instead UAVs will probably try and braid people's hair or something.

Since when is destruction sophisticated?


Destruction itself isn't. But programming something to do the destruction is. Besides, in five years Apple will have created ipads that let you remote operate your own drones and Real Americans  tm everywhere will have their defenses ready.
 
2013-05-05 10:26:19 PM
Don't worry, guys. The reason unmanned flying drones are built differently from unmanned bomb disposal units or unmanned subs isn't because they're meant for totally different purposes, right? Oh, it is? Well, I hope they don't run into the usual problem with software that can do "anything", namely that it will be super-bloated, prone to frequent errors, have a steep learning curve, and invariably fail to address common issues with each device in the quest to address all devices. No chance of that happening with government software projects, tho, right?
 
2013-05-05 10:39:48 PM

Walker: What could possibly go.....
[img.photobucket.com image 360x222]


Actually this will be Bill Paxton's first encounter with the evil AI program...

www.arnoldheight.com
"Hey, this guy is a couple cans short of a six pack!"
 
2013-05-05 11:12:13 PM
It's ok, we've already passed Judgement Day three times.
 
2013-05-05 11:24:16 PM

INeedAName: Destruction itself isn't. But programming something to do the destruction is. Besides, in five years Apple will have created ipads that let you remote operate your own drones and Real Americans  tm everywhere will have their defenses ready.


THE FUTURE IS NOW

gadgetynews.com

/has one of these
/flying blind with an iPad is ridiculously simple
 
2013-05-05 11:39:59 PM
Software issues aside, they're completely forgetting that the various armed services jealously guard their toys and missions (and by extension their budgets) from each other.  The odds of any of the services, let alone all of them, allowing the navy to bring in a system like this are far closer to zero than one.
 
2013-05-05 11:46:47 PM
The United States Navy: a global force for good.
/those commercials creep me completely-the-f*ck out
 
2013-05-05 11:57:50 PM

Arumat: Software issues aside, they're completely forgetting that the various armed services jealously guard their toys and missions (and by extension their budgets) from each other.  The odds of any of the services, let alone all of them, allowing the navy to bring in a system like this are far closer to zero than one.


The DOD wouldn't even sign off on The Avengers because it implied the US military was subordinate to SHIELD.
 
2013-05-05 11:58:29 PM

Elmo Jones: The United States Navy: a global force for good.
/those commercials creep me completely-the-f*ck out


It is a global force for good.  Which just happens to be able to wipe out all life on the planet.
 
2013-05-06 12:08:40 AM

Mentat: Elmo Jones: The United States Navy: a global force for good.
/those commercials creep me completely-the-f*ck out

It is a global force for good.  Which just happens to be able to wipe out all life on the planet.


You're talking like those are mutually exclusive.
 
2013-05-06 04:13:39 AM
Why be afraid?  Individual Americans have the right to keep and bear drones.
 
2013-05-06 05:22:56 AM

untaken_name: Mentat: Elmo Jones: The United States Navy: a global force for good.
/those commercials creep me completely-the-f*ck out

It is a global force for good.  Which just happens to be able to wipe out all life on the planet.

You're talking like those are mutually exclusive.


They aren't.
 
2013-05-06 05:43:47 AM
How many times must it be repeated that they aren't cyborgs they are remote controlled planes.

F*cking luddites.
 
2013-05-06 05:45:25 AM

thamike: How many times must it be repeated that they aren't cyborgs they are remote controlled planes.

F*cking luddites.


That's what Skynet wants you to think.
 
2013-05-06 05:48:56 AM

Elmo Jones: The United States Navy: a global force for good.
/those commercials creep me completely-the-f*ck out


You should have seen the 80s.

farm3.staticflickr.com

They were even in our cereal.
 
2013-05-06 07:53:40 AM

MacWizard: "It will run on any type of platform or hardware, and it can overlay existing systems running on propriety software to make them work with any others."

So suddenly Windows, Macs, UNIX, Linux, VAX, Playstation and XBox are going to play well with each other? Not believing this for a second. Even if there was a programming god that could figure this out, they'd still have to get past the phalanx of copyright attorneys.


That part is relatively easy. You play, or we don't pay. The government is the customer, and if vendors don't play ball with the policy, the government will find/hire/etc. someone who will comply. Not to mention the fact that the government writes "access to source code" as well as it's own license terms into every software product it buys.

I should know, my company writes software for the Navy.
 
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