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(Paste Magazine)   In adapting The Great Gatsby, Baz Luhrmann has chosen a novel that requires depth, irony, and nuance, something the director is incapable of   (pastemagazine.com) divider line 96
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2013-05-05 06:04:47 PM
Did that moron just review a movie he hasn't seen?
 
2013-05-05 06:04:56 PM
I rather liked Moulin Rouge, so I'm looking forward to this. My only concern is Tobey McGuire. I farking HATE him as an actor, which is why I'm kind of glad they did a reboot of Spiderman ( I did still like #2 despite McGuire). He's like Michael Cera without the Arrested Development street cred, and can only play one annoying character.
 
2013-05-05 06:19:35 PM
depth, irony, and nuance, something the director is incapable of

But enough about *Michael Bay......

*Or Roland Emmerich, Uwe Boll, M. Night Shymalan.......
 
2013-05-05 06:34:15 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Did that moron just review a movie he hasn't seen?




He reviewed a movie from the promotional short that ran in the theaters.
 
2013-05-05 07:15:31 PM
fark the Jazz Age.
 
2013-05-05 07:19:22 PM
I probably won't see this movie until it shows up on cable, but I just wanted to say how adorable Carey Mulligan looks with a flapper haircut.

i43.tinypic.com

That is all.
 
2013-05-05 07:23:43 PM
Is this where a bunch of proud cretins howl about how much they hate the novel?
 
2013-05-05 07:23:47 PM
Or maybe there's plenty of depth, irony and nuance in Baz Luhrmann films, but the writer can't see it.
 
2013-05-05 07:24:07 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Popcorn Johnny: Did that moron just review a movie he hasn't seen?



He reviewed a movie from the promotional short that ran in the theaters.


Well Luhrman calling Gatsby "aspirational" is a pretty big warning sign.
 
2013-05-05 07:25:07 PM
-emulating?
-copying?
-providing?
-understanding?
-comprehending?
-denying?
-projecting?
-seeing?
-hiding from?
t.qkme.me
 
2013-05-05 07:28:32 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Did that moron just review a movie he hasn't seen?


That's word for word my thought about 2 paragraphs in.
 
2013-05-05 07:29:19 PM

CarnySaur: Or maybe there's plenty of depth, irony and nuance in Baz Luhrmann films, but the writer can't see it.


Have you ever seen a Luhrmann movie?  They have their charms, but those don't rank among them.
 
2013-05-05 07:32:30 PM

Crudbucket: fark the Jazz Age.


That is kind of the point of the novel
 
2013-05-05 07:34:02 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Did that moron just review a movie he hasn't seen?


Putting money on the moron being 100% right about this. The director is all wrong for such a complex and near unmakeable movie, he's about glamour is a book that, in a way completely undermines the concept of glamour, or at the least rejects it
 
2013-05-05 07:37:04 PM

CarnySaur: Or maybe there's plenty of depth, irony and nuance in Baz Luhrmann films, but the writer can't see it.


Huh? Where? Moulin rouge had a woman die of tuberculosis in the middle of a singing performance. That's not irony, not even in a morisette way, that's just stupid wrapped up in dumb
 
2013-05-05 07:42:57 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Well Luhrman calling Gatsby "aspirational" is a pretty big warning sign.


pretty much, I thought the author was being a turd in the punchbowl with this pre-release slagging... but if the director thinks that Gatsby is aspirational, this movie is going to only be notable for missing the point
 
2013-05-05 07:46:39 PM
Who the fark watches Baz Luhrmann films for the writing?

If you can't appreciate that Baz can make a farking amazingly pretty movie, all while he punches you in the face with color, I pity you.

Do you know how cool Baz Luhrmann is? His name is Baz.
 
2013-05-05 07:50:16 PM

nerftaig: Who the fark watches Baz Luhrmann films for the writing?

If you can't appreciate that Baz can make a farking amazingly pretty movie, all while he punches you in the face with color, I pity you.

Do you know how cool Baz Luhrmann is? His name is Baz.


Who reads the Great Gatsby for the flashy party descriptions?
 
2013-05-05 07:52:12 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Darth_Lukecash: Popcorn Johnny: Did that moron just review a movie he hasn't seen?

He reviewed a movie from the promotional short that ran in the theaters.

Well Luhrman calling Gatsby "aspirational" is a pretty big warning sign.


No thanks. I don't want a book that's going to get stuck in my lungs.
 
2013-05-05 07:52:28 PM
To hell with Fitzgerald and his atrocious writing.  He and those insipid Bronte twats have utterly ruined interest in literature for multiple generations of kids.

/if P.G. Wodehouse had been American, we'd regard Francis' paperweight with little more than obscure curiosity
 
2013-05-05 07:53:27 PM
There have been multiple adaptations of The Great Gatsby already with depth, irony, and nuance.  They were all flops.

Maybe this one will succeed where the other ones failed.
 
2013-05-05 07:53:31 PM

nerftaig: Who the fark watches Baz Luhrmann films for the writing?

If you can't appreciate that Baz can make a farking amazingly pretty movie, all while he punches you in the face with color, I pity you.

Do you know how cool Baz Luhrmann is? His name is Baz.


Edit: I also think The Great Gatsby is a book in which formal style is more important an element than subject matter. What F. Scott Fitzgerald says isn't what is amazing about the book, its how he says it. I can't think of a better person to adapt the book.

The article suggests that this film will do a disservice to audiences who have no read the book, but in all honesty who farking cares about them? The book will still be there for them to enjoy, and the film looks amazing.
 
2013-05-05 08:02:17 PM

kevinatilusa: They were all flops.


Yeah but this one has music by Jay-Z and they'll probably add some CGI and asplosions - then you'll get the legions of retards who love their 'popcorn movies' and it'll be a smash.   It's all about the dumbing down.
 
2013-05-05 08:02:38 PM

krej55: Crudbucket: fark the Jazz Age.

That is kind of the point of the novel


Yes, I know.
 
2013-05-05 08:08:27 PM

nerftaig: nerftaig: Who the fark watches Baz Luhrmann films for the writing?

If you can't appreciate that Baz can make a farking amazingly pretty movie, all while he punches you in the face with color, I pity you.

Do you know how cool Baz Luhrmann is? His name is Baz.

Edit: I also think The Great Gatsby is a book in which formal style is more important an element than subject matter. What F. Scott Fitzgerald says isn't what is amazing about the book, its how he says it. I can't think of a better person to adapt the book.

The article suggests that this film will do a disservice to audiences who have no read the book, but in all honesty who farking cares about them? The book will still be there for them to enjoy, and the film looks amazing.


Exactly this.  A huge part of the actual story telling was based around 'how' the story was presented.  The literary imagery that he wrote into it.  It was a story about a time in American history where flash and style were paramount.  And that's why having it turned into a flashy movie is not just appropriate, but almost REQUIRED.
 
2013-05-05 08:10:18 PM
I went back and looked at all the available trailers. I think they have an equal chance to get it right as they do to f*ck it up. It'll be worth a watch to see how they do with it. It's a pretty big undertaking to top that book and the Redford movie.
 
2013-05-05 08:12:30 PM
Hearing ghetto-thug and alleged business person "jay z" in the promos tells me all I need about this piece of cinematic trash.
 
2013-05-05 08:14:09 PM

Infernalist: nerftaig: nerftaig: Who the fark watches Baz Luhrmann films for the writing?

If you can't appreciate that Baz can make a farking amazingly pretty movie, all while he punches you in the face with color, I pity you.

Do you know how cool Baz Luhrmann is? His name is Baz.

Edit: I also think The Great Gatsby is a book in which formal style is more important an element than subject matter. What F. Scott Fitzgerald says isn't what is amazing about the book, its how he says it. I can't think of a better person to adapt the book.

The article suggests that this film will do a disservice to audiences who have no read the book, but in all honesty who farking cares about them? The book will still be there for them to enjoy, and the film looks amazing.

Exactly this.  A huge part of the actual story telling was based around 'how' the story was presented.  The literary imagery that he wrote into it.  It was a story about a time in American history where flash and style were paramount.  And that's why having it turned into a flashy movie is not just appropriate, but almost REQUIRED.


This, but I think Fitzgerald evokes that glamour to really analyze, and, in the end, criticize it.  I am not certain that Luhrmann will do that.  We'll see, I guess, but this could either be an incredible film or the biggest shiatpile ever put on screen.  You certainly won't be able to say that it's mediocre.
 
2013-05-05 08:14:26 PM

Bslim: Hearing ghetto-thug and alleged business person "jay z" in the promos tells me all I need about this piece of cinematic trash.


you sound bitter.
 
2013-05-05 08:14:28 PM
The writer clearly hasn't read The Great Gatsby then.

Gawd that book is awful.
 
2013-05-05 08:18:14 PM

jake_lex: Infernalist: nerftaig: nerftaig: Who the fark watches Baz Luhrmann films for the writing?

If you can't appreciate that Baz can make a farking amazingly pretty movie, all while he punches you in the face with color, I pity you.

Do you know how cool Baz Luhrmann is? His name is Baz.

Edit: I also think The Great Gatsby is a book in which formal style is more important an element than subject matter. What F. Scott Fitzgerald says isn't what is amazing about the book, its how he says it. I can't think of a better person to adapt the book.

The article suggests that this film will do a disservice to audiences who have no read the book, but in all honesty who farking cares about them? The book will still be there for them to enjoy, and the film looks amazing.

Exactly this.  A huge part of the actual story telling was based around 'how' the story was presented.  The literary imagery that he wrote into it.  It was a story about a time in American history where flash and style were paramount.  And that's why having it turned into a flashy movie is not just appropriate, but almost REQUIRED.

This, but I think Fitzgerald evokes that glamour to really analyze, and, in the end, criticize it.  I am not certain that Luhrmann will do that.  We'll see, I guess, but this could either be an incredible film or the biggest shiatpile ever put on screen.  You certainly won't be able to say that it's mediocre.


It's quite true that the whole point of his novel was to drag the spectacle of the '20s before his readers' eyes and show how shallow and trivial their concerns truly were.  Now, whether or not this movie is subtle enough for that remains to be seen.

I'm willing to take a chance on it, as they seem to have gotten the look of the story down pat.  And there's also the fact that I've already seen IM III and nothing 'else' out there comes close to Gatsby this weekend.
 
2013-05-05 08:22:29 PM

Infernalist: and nothing 'else' out there comes close to Gatsby this weekend


Dude
 
2013-05-05 08:24:04 PM
By the way, that's a red band trailer.
 
2013-05-05 08:25:14 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Infernalist: and nothing 'else' out there comes close to Gatsby this weekend

Dude


Um, yeah.  That's okay.

Just out of curiosity, is that a good example of what you'd call a good movie?  I'm curious.
 
2013-05-05 08:32:00 PM

fusillade762: I probably won't see this movie until it shows up on cable, but I just wanted to say how adorable Carey Mulligan looks with a flapper haircut.

[i43.tinypic.com image 488x724]

That is all.


Second.
 
2013-05-05 08:33:33 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Darth_Lukecash: Popcorn Johnny: Did that moron just review a movie he hasn't seen?

He reviewed a movie from the promotional short that ran in the theaters.

Well Luhrman calling Gatsby "aspirational" is a pretty big warning sign.


Or, you know, completely correct and one of the core characteristics of Gatsby,

Aspirational
3a: a strong desire to achieve something high or greatb  : an object of such desire
 
2013-05-05 08:35:58 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Is this where a bunch of proud cretins howl about how much they hate the novel?


I remember reading it in HS. I remember hating it, though I only have vague memories of why. I think I recall that all the characters were detestable, and I think someone died and I couldn't have cared less.
 
2013-05-05 08:44:29 PM

UNC_Samurai: To hell with Fitzgerald and his atrocious writing.  He and those insipid Bronte twats have utterly ruined interest in literature for multiple generations of kids.


You may have a point there. I remember having to read Gatsby in high school, but I don't remember my reaction to it at that time.
Rereading it as an older man, I actually enjoy the book: Fitzgerald's "fark the Jazz Age" attitude, as someone else said, Gatsby the ex-bootlegger being perhaps the most honorable person in that crowd and paying for it with his life, his striving for things he can never have...those themes resonate more deeply with me now than when I was a younger man. Maybe "Gatsby" shouldn't be taught until college, or later. If you want a Fitzgerald exemplar to teach to younger people, I'd recommend his short story "Babylon Revisited" which touches on many of the same themes as "Gatsby" but is shorter and, I think, easier to relate to.
(And which also had an unsuccessful movie adaptation.)
 
2013-05-05 08:56:42 PM
Hey look, A Great Gatsby thread got a greenlight.

/At the end of the pier.
 
2013-05-05 09:02:58 PM
i43.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-05 09:15:03 PM

Infernalist: Bslim: Hearing ghetto-thug and alleged business person "jay z" in the promos tells me all I need about this piece of cinematic trash.

you sound bitter white.


FTFY
 
2013-05-05 09:17:53 PM
It's not a great book, or at least, it hasn't aged well.

The only reason it remains so widely read is because it's the perfect book for teaching literature to high schoolers: lots of obvious symbolism and metaphors, nothing too racy or controversial.
 
2013-05-05 09:18:26 PM
Why does he prattle on for 5 minutes about sunscreen?
 
2013-05-05 09:23:50 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Infernalist: and nothing 'else' out there comes close to Gatsby this weekend

Dude


Not when said trailer likely gave away the twist.
 
2013-05-05 09:29:18 PM

fusillade762: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Darth_Lukecash: Popcorn Johnny: Did that moron just review a movie he hasn't seen?

He reviewed a movie from the promotional short that ran in the theaters.

Well Luhrman calling Gatsby "aspirational" is a pretty big warning sign.

No thanks. I don't want a book that's going to get stuck in my lungs.


www.indiantvinfo.com
 
2013-05-05 09:30:49 PM
It looks like it's going to be shiat. Every time I see a commercial for it on TV, I'm not sure whether it's a Gatsby ad or a Buick commercial. Moreover, Moulin Rouge is one of the most obnoxious and unwatchable movies I've ever seen. I hate Luhrmann's schtick - he'd be a competent music video director or TV commercial director, but his films are awful.
 
2013-05-05 09:31:50 PM

quatchi: Hey look, A Great Gatsby thread got a greenlight.

/At the end of the pier.


Hey Daisy, I can see your house from here.
 
2013-05-05 09:32:59 PM

UNC_Samurai: To hell with Fitzgerald and his atrocious writing.  He and those insipid Bronte twats have utterly ruined interest in literature for multiple generations of kids.

/if P.G. Wodehouse had been American, we'd regard Francis' paperweight with little more than obscure curiosity


Don't forget Steinbeck. And Wilder (no, not Gene). And A. Miller. Hmmm...
 
2013-05-05 09:33:05 PM
The preview alone shows the director failed to bring the book to the screen, only time will tell how badly he did. Judging from the director's track record, I'm gonna say it will not have the feel/spirit/meaning of the book at all. I'm not saying people won't be entertained, but don't see the movie thinking you can get out of reading it for a book report.
 
2013-05-05 09:51:31 PM

coco ebert: The writer clearly hasn't read The Great Gatsby then.

Gawd that book is awful.


The writer read the book  once (that's what I take from her "I'm new to the book" comment) and she plagiarised her interpretation of it from a high school textbook. Everything about her review of the book sounded so familiar because it's the same one that's taught year after year. I'm not saying the interpretation is incorrect, but this is such lazy journalism and an obvious SEO/web traffic trick. Shame on you, Paste.

And I shake my head along with everyone here who thinks reviewing a movie before it is out is "dumb".

/Really looking forward to this film.
/And so we beat on
/Hehehe
 
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