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(Latinos Post)   Man kills someone. That's bad. Victim was a child molester. That's... not "good," but... Murderer is a white supremacist. That's bad. He killed the chomo because it's a rule in his gang to kill chomos. That's... again, not sure how to feel about this   (latinospost.com) divider line 68
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2013-05-05 06:58:18 PM  
6 votes:

DrGunsforHands: maggoo: Child molesting is very bad, but murder is worse.  How come murdering child molesters is supposed to be good?

Child molesting is at least as bad as murder.


A molested child might recover and live a long happy life.

A murdered child won't.
2013-05-05 06:35:26 PM  
6 votes:
48 years old and you're still playing "let's be gang-banger's?"  And your wife was a participant?  Losers all the way around on this one...
2013-05-05 05:33:10 PM  
6 votes:
Imagine you are falsely accused of a crime.  You are then attacked by vigilantes, believing they are doing the right thing.  How does that sound?
2013-05-05 05:04:44 PM  
5 votes:
It's good to know that homicidal sociopaths with a persecution complex have a moral code.
2013-05-05 04:30:19 PM  
5 votes:
"Chomo"?
2013-05-05 08:29:01 PM  
4 votes:
My name is John, and until you see me write something that makes you believe that I am racist or otherwise, this is foolish.  This is stupid and I will not change my screen name because you don't like it or it offends you in some way.
2013-05-05 06:36:36 PM  
4 votes:
You joined a group called Peckerwoods.  Did you think things were going to work out well?
2013-05-05 06:31:22 PM  
4 votes:
Murder is bad. Vigilante justice is bad. Committing murder because of a perceived crime committed by the victim is bad.

For our next lesson, I will explain why all three are not only bad, but illegal.
2013-05-05 06:15:26 PM  
4 votes:
So a dead child molester and a murdering white supremacist who's never coming out of prison after that?

That's... not "good", but...
2013-05-05 07:34:08 PM  
3 votes:

JohnnyRebel88: By believing his race is superior to others, which many other races do, still is legal may I remind everyone


What does the 88 in your name stand for?
2013-05-05 06:58:00 PM  
3 votes:

medieval: Uchiha_Cycliste: ecmoRandomNumbers: It's good to know that homicidal sociopaths with a persecution complex have a moral code.

Well, if you are gonna have  homicidal sociopaths, isn't it preferable that they have a code? Isn't Dexter killing all willy nilly much worse?

You know how we can tell you've never actually seen Dexter?


I think he means that Lawful Evil Dexter is better than Chaotic Evil Dexter.
2013-05-05 10:01:15 PM  
2 votes:
Tatsuma:

Well I did meet someone a while ago and when he gave me his email address, it ended in 1488. Fought the urge to punch him, since he'd been extremely nice, so I asked him why he had that on his email. He answered 'It's my birthday, why?'.

I actually asked to check his ID and, poor sod, it actually was his birthday. When I explained to him what it meant, he went pale and then he said he'd change it the next day.


Goddamn you're an asshole. I mean, what a rational and mature response to a farking number. Congratulations, the racists won with you. You're so worried about racists that you nearly resort to physical violence when you even get a whiff of something vaguely resembling supremacist code? That's insane. What's worse is you didn't even believe him until you carded him. He should have told you to get farked.
2013-05-05 08:52:00 PM  
2 votes:
I had a Facebook "friend" (a woman I had known in elementary through high school) who put up something about how it would be a good idea to execute child rapists. Giving her the benefit of the doubt that maybe she hadn't thought her cunning plan all of the way through, I brought up that such a policy would be a terrible idea for many reasons. Most child rapists are close to the victim, often a relative. What about a girl who has been raped by a previously loved uncle (or even worse, her father), and is now in a position where she doesn't want to report it, because he might get the death penalty? Would you want to put that on some poor kid? You are also giving some of the worst people alive a perverse incentive to kill their victims, as dead victims cannot testify. Besides all of that, the SCOTUS ruled that the death penalty for rape would be a violation of the Eighth Amendment in Kennedy v. Louisiana, so it's really pointless to even bring it up. She just dug in her heels, and insisted that it would somehow make child rape go away. One of the many reasons I nuked my Facebook account.
2013-05-05 07:36:17 PM  
2 votes:
You don't have to choose sides in a story. It's perfectly acceptable to hate everyone involved.
2013-05-05 07:05:14 PM  
2 votes:
The question that hasn't been  raised is whether the government will be sued by the man's family for not protecting him. I understand the sex offender registry is law, but it seems like the government sometimes does a witness-protection type program for sex offenders or otherwise somehow helps them be reintroduced to society. The fact that his support network after leaving prison was a white supremacist he met in prison is not a good sign of how we deal with people leaving the prison system, especially ones who probably need follow-up care in reintegrating into society. It sounds like they both needed help, actually.
2013-05-05 07:01:50 PM  
2 votes:

cheeseaholic: DrGunsforHands: maggoo: Child molesting is very bad, but murder is worse.  How come murdering child molesters is supposed to be good?

Child molesting is at least as bad as murder.

A molested child might recover and live a long happy life.

A murdered child won't.


Sadly based on the data at hand, more molested and abused children go on to abuse others than get over it.

Still, I'd rather the people that would harm kids in general for some sick perverted pleasure be removed from the gene pool and no longer draining resources from the rest of humanity. Same goes for rapists, murderers, drug lords, and the westborough baptist church.
2013-05-05 07:01:38 PM  
2 votes:

Aquapope: You joined a group called Peckerwoods.  Did you think things were going to work out well?


Talos: 48 years old and you're still playing "let's be gang-banger's?"  And your wife was a participant?  Losers all the way around on this one...


This might come as a shock to you both but generally speaking most convicts aren't exactly forward-thinking people. There's a reason they're convicts and it usually transcends criminal activity.
2013-05-05 06:55:00 PM  
2 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: ecmoRandomNumbers: It's good to know that homicidal sociopaths with a persecution complex have a moral code.

Well, if you are gonna have  homicidal sociopaths, isn't it preferable that they have a code? Isn't Dexter killing all willy nilly much worse?


You know how we can tell you've never actually seen Dexter?
2013-05-05 06:54:17 PM  
2 votes:

NFA: "During a previous stay in prison, Gaskins became a member of a jailhouse white supremacist gang called the "Peckerwoods." As a Peckerwood, Gaskins was mandated to physically harm or kill any other white person with a history of child molestation."

Sounds like Anti-MENSA


I would not, under any circumstances, join a gang called the peckerwoods.  Nor would I join a gang called the tallywhackers.

It's the principle of the thing.
2013-05-05 06:52:35 PM  
2 votes:

maggoo: Child molesting is very bad, but murder is worse.  How come murdering child molesters is supposed to be good?


Because your first statement, while sane, isn't something widely believed these days. Child molestation is considered worse than child murder, or any other crime you can think of. You could show up in a prison and tell everyone you strangled 15 little girls to death and they'd be all "you're stone cold, mang", but tell them you touched their boobs, or lack thereof, and they'll shank you.
2013-05-05 06:39:41 PM  
2 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: i had sex with my wife.  who was a child once.  kill me?


While it IS tempting to live in a world without your constant threadshiatting... I am not a violent person. I am sure you have less gentle "friends" on here somewhere though.
2013-05-05 06:38:48 PM  
2 votes:

Shostie: A chomo isn't a Japanese cholo, is it?

No, wait. That's choro.

Hm...


Damn it, now I want a Churro

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2013-05-05 06:36:49 PM  
2 votes:
The wife got 8 years but will be out in 66 days due to time already served for a crime that happened in 2009?  That's some fancy bookkeeping!
2013-05-05 06:36:16 PM  
2 votes:
It's all bad. Bad, bad, bad.

From parenting to life choices to basic shiat like "Don't murder people". It's all bad.

From here, it looks all bad.
2013-05-05 06:21:22 PM  
2 votes:
This wasn't even vigilantism, the guy he killed had already been arrested and served his sentence for his crimes.  The white supremacist dude apparently just didn't think that was good enough.
2013-05-05 05:49:48 PM  
2 votes:

TheOnion: Imagine you are falsely accused of a crime.  You are then attacked by vigilantes, believing they are doing the right thing.  How does that sound?


Or even if you're rightly convicted of a crime.
2013-05-06 09:42:03 AM  
1 votes:
So many supremacy groups in Cali, biggest one is LaRaza.
2013-05-06 03:43:41 AM  
1 votes:
So what you mean to say, subby, is that your set of morals, driven by media-frenzy and political correctness, is completely in-congruent? Who would have thought.
2013-05-05 10:42:21 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: so yes I admit that I am more than a little sensitive to these codewords.


That's another thing, I think you said you couldn't imagine people not knowing the connotations of these coded numbers. I'm smack dab on the Mason-Dixon Line, Stars and Bars (despite being Yankee soil, morons) everywhere. This is the first time I've heard this "1488" thing.
2013-05-05 10:13:54 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: 'It's my birthday' 'No farking way' 'Yeah! Want me to show you?' 'Sure'.


Heh, your writing style didn't convey that well. It does sound like a bit less of a tense moment that way, my bad. But still, it's just a number, dude. If you hadn't told him the racist connection, he'd have never known, he'd have never told anyone else why he changed his e-mail, and the supremacist power over four digits would dwindle a bit.

They don't own 1488, unless you let them.
2013-05-05 10:06:42 PM  
1 votes:

Mentalpatient87: Goddamn you're an asshole. I mean, what a rational and mature response to a farking number. Congratulations, the racists won with you. You're so worried about racists that you nearly resort to physical violence when you even get a whiff of something vaguely resembling supremacist code? That's insane. What's worse is you didn't even believe him until you carded him. He should have told you to get farked.


I would not have punched him just for saying that, for fark's sake, relax. It's just years of Antifa coming back to the surface. As far as me checking his ID, the conversation went:

'It's my birthday' 'No farking way' 'Yeah! Want me to show you?' 'Sure'.
2013-05-05 09:27:23 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: TheOnion: Imagine you are falsely accused of a crime.  You are then attacked by vigilantes, believing they are doing the right thing.  How does that sound?

Or even if you're rightly convicted of a crime.


The thing I absolutely hate about stories like this is you have no idea if he was diddling 4 year olds or if he was convicted of banging his underage girlfriend.
2013-05-05 09:21:24 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Again, most people when they see those numbers will think about racism almost immediately. Look, I am not going to fault you for not doing so, but don't pretend that most people who are under 40 are not mostly aware of what that means .


I am over 50 and had not a clue as to what it meant. I guess I run with the wrong crowd.
2013-05-05 09:19:25 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: skullkrusher: what does 1488 mean and what sort of asshole changes his email address because another asshole told him about a possible obscure connotation?

14 stands for the 14 word motto 'We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children' and 88 is code for 'Heil Hitler'

And a guy who realizes that he seems to broadcasting to the world that he's a really racist piece of shiat.


No, I have to disagree with you on this one.  I would say that a weak man that cares way too much about what whiney butthurt people think, would change his address because another man that is so freaking sensitive that he has gone to the trouble of decoding prison gang derp because HE cares that farking much about what people think of him.

$.02
2013-05-05 09:17:19 PM  
1 votes:

Son of Thunder: Facetious_Speciest: Coe was not Johnny Rebel.

As for Fark's JohnnyRebel88, he says it's a coincidence. It happens.

I can't believe people are actually defending this guy.

Would anyone seriously believe me if I had the handle "CharlesMarxist" and insisted that it's because I like drawing with markers? Or if I called myself "CharlieThePedo" and claimed it was because I walk a lot?

The guy has a White Power fark handle. If it's a mistake, he should feel terrible embarrassment and change it immediately. If it's not a mistake, he should have the balls to own it and take the heat.


you're not gonna miss out on anything if you just wait for him to say something racist and jump on his for it. I've never seen him say anything racist. Maybe he's the world's biggest racist dickbag - still quite comfortable in waiting for a time in which he actually says something racist to insist that he is one
2013-05-05 09:10:12 PM  
1 votes:

Facetious_Speciest: Coe was not Johnny Rebel.

As for Fark's JohnnyRebel88, he says it's a coincidence. It happens.


I don't believe it for a second. Nobody called "Johnny Rebel" would ACCIDENTALLY append 88 to his handle, or not know what it meant if it was put there by a roboaccount. He knows what it means, and even if it was an "accident" he's probably very proud of it and likes the "coincidence."

But I've no doubt that it was totally on purpose, right, Johnny Reb?
2013-05-05 08:57:30 PM  
1 votes:

Repo Man: I had a Facebook "friend" (a woman I had known in elementary through high school) who put up something about how it would be a good idea to execute child rapists. Giving her the benefit of the doubt that maybe she hadn't thought her cunning plan all of the way through, I brought up that such a policy would be a terrible idea for many reasons. Most child rapists are close to the victim, often a relative. What about a girl who has been raped by a previously loved uncle (or even worse, her father), and is now in a position where she doesn't want to report it, because he might get the death penalty? Would you want to put that on some poor kid? You are also giving some of the worst people alive a perverse incentive to kill their victims, as dead victims cannot testify. Besides all of that, the SCOTUS ruled that the death penalty for rape would be a violation of the Eighth Amendment in Kennedy v. Louisiana, so it's really pointless to even bring it up. She just dug in her heels, and insisted that it would somehow make child rape go away. One of the many reasons I nuked my Facebook account.


Local man gets into Facebook argument with dim acquaintance. Film at 11
2013-05-05 08:52:49 PM  
1 votes:
Bravo Two: 
If I kill a person who has killed of harmed someone in a very heinous way, and probably so beyond the shadow of a doubt, is society not better off that such people are removed from it?

I don't suggest we hunt them down. But there comes a point where such people should be simply removed from the gene pool and society at large forget and move on


Society has laws and procedure to remove such people.  You may not agree that a jail sentence is the correct punishment for a sex offender, but that is the law our democratic society has agreed to, so it's what we live with.  If you want harsher sentences you can use the political system to your avail - proposition your DA and state legislature, create a group to campaign for it, and if you find enough people who agree with you and who raise enough of a fuss about it the laws can be changed.

Until then it isn't right for any citizen to choose who should and who shouldn't be 'removed from the gene pool' outside of the justice system.  There are folks who feel that believing in the wrong god, having an interracial relationship, or loving someone of the same sex means that you should be 'removed from the gene pool', and they may feel as morally justified and strongly about their convictions as you do about child molesters.  In order for society to work individual citizens can't be left to take the law into their own hands.
2013-05-05 08:34:39 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: skullkrusher: what does 1488 mean and what sort of asshole changes his email address because another asshole told him about a possible obscure connotation?

14 stands for the 14 word motto 'We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children' and 88 is code for 'Heil Hitler'

And a guy who realizes that he seems to broadcasting to the world that he's a really racist piece of shiat.


Until he says something racist, how about you shove your insults straight up your ass, hmm?
2013-05-05 08:30:49 PM  
1 votes:
There is no one in the story that should ever get out of jail.
2013-05-05 08:24:04 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Facetious_Speciest: There is no way someone calling themselves JohnnyRebel88 is unaware of the connotations. lol

Well I did meet someone a while ago and when he gave me his email address, it ended in 1488. Fought the urge to punch him, since he'd been extremely nice, so I asked him why he had that on his email. He answered 'It's my birthday, why?'.

I actually asked to check his ID and, poor sod, it actually was his birthday. When I explained to him what it meant, he went pale and then he said he'd change it the next day.


what does 1488 mean and what sort of asshole changes his email address because another asshole told him about a possible obscure connotation?
2013-05-05 08:01:55 PM  
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Interestingly, the Peckerwoods (they call their ladies the Featherwoods, really) have a rule against child molesters, but are fine with selling drugs, when usually selling drugs = really bad in the white power movement.


I thought most White Supremacist gangs cooked/sold meth and pushed drugs for the cartels.
2013-05-05 07:57:40 PM  
1 votes:

studs up: Thebloodpotato: when i was in tdc homeboys threw a chester off the third tier and don't be like how'd you know he would brag about that shiat it was funny to see him bleed much funnier than the sick jokes he'd make...

There's a story there....do elaborate.


in mineral wells the prison there is run by cca and super unsupervised...i just had arrived and just got jumped into the woods (i joined not because im racist because im not and pretty anti-racist but i had to adapt) they were talking about some dude i think they called him rabbit or somethin and talking about he'd basically rub into everyones face that he was getting out soon and would make alot of sick jokes about babies and kids. they already had suspicions but we had a guard do a background check for us because we didn't want the blacks to get to him first cause he was white and every race is supposed to handle their own dirt or we'd start to lose respect and being the smallest group of people get farked with more and shiat escalates pretty fast. plus we were nearing a lockdown anyways and that just farks everything up for everybody cause everyone gets hungry. so the background check comes back and lo and behold had some exposing himself to a minor so we went to his bunk (mineral wells doesn't have cells) and they grabbed him walked out to the third tier and threw him off. shiat must've hurt real bad cause he was bleeding and i think they careflighted him out but i don't know. we were on lockdown the next day. i personally did not have anything to do with it i just observed from really far away. like about 100 or so other black white and hispanic inmates
2013-05-05 07:55:38 PM  
1 votes:
There is no way someone calling themselves JohnnyRebel88 is unaware of the connotations. lol
2013-05-05 07:47:35 PM  
1 votes:

JohnnyRebel88: Who was the best WR of all time?


Marvin Harrisson?

Fyi: 'Johnny Rebel' is a very widely use codename in the white supremacist circles, and 88 is numerical code for 'Heil Hitler' and they'll often wear clothes with the numbers or get tattoos of it.
m00
2013-05-05 07:35:38 PM  
1 votes:

Bravo Two: Hmmm I'm okay with this. We have enough people on this Planet that I have absolutely zero pity or moral discomfort at seeing the shiattiest examples of humanity removed from the gene pool.


You're okay with a man serving time for a crime, getting released after paying his debt to society, and then a private citizen murdering him for that crime?
2013-05-05 07:34:35 PM  
1 votes:

Dragonflew: DrGunsforHands: cheeseaholic: DrGunsforHands: maggoo: Child molesting is very bad, but murder is worse.  How come murdering child molesters is supposed to be good?

Child molesting is at least as bad as murder.

A molested child might recover and live a long happy life.

A murdered child won't.

If you meant that, then you should have said child murder.  When you're talking degrees of evil, you need to be specific.

What is the difference? At which age does a person's murder suddenly become less tragic?


A child is completely helpless, and thus the worst of all people you could harm.

However, I truly don't understand the concept that all life is sacred, and all killing murder.

If I kill a bad person who is attempting to harm me, that's self defense, and no murder was committed. If I kill someone in war, I am killing an enemy whom is engaged against me and would likely kill me.

If I kill a person who has killed of harmed someone in a very heinous way, and probably so beyond the shadow of a doubt, is society not better off that such people are removed from it?

I don't suggest we hunt them down. But there comes a point where such people should be simply removed from the gene pool and society at large forget and move on
2013-05-05 07:27:03 PM  
1 votes:

DrGunsforHands: cheeseaholic: DrGunsforHands: maggoo: Child molesting is very bad, but murder is worse.  How come murdering child molesters is supposed to be good?

Child molesting is at least as bad as murder.

A molested child might recover and live a long happy life.

A murdered child won't.

If you meant that, then you should have said child murder.  When you're talking degrees of evil, you need to be specific.


What is the difference? At which age does a person's murder suddenly become less tragic?
2013-05-05 07:19:54 PM  
1 votes:

Talos: 48 years old and you're still playing "let's be gang-banger's?"  And your wife was a participant?  Losers all the way around on this one...


At least he's got the stereotypical "I will cost taxes instead of make em" tattoos.
2013-05-05 07:15:16 PM  
1 votes:

maggoo: Child molesting is very bad, but murder is worse.  How come murdering child molesters is supposed to be good?


Preventive maintenance.
2013-05-05 07:11:40 PM  
1 votes:

jso2897: MJMaloney187: Well how about that? The most evil kind of human alive, the white supremacist, bashes a child molester's head in, pleads no contest AND throws himself in front of a train to try to save his wife.

I gotta tell ya', these Peckerwoods don't sound like such bad guys. Does anybody know where I can fill out an application?

Your local prison. Admission free.


Well, no, not really FREE....the "blood in" requirement is kind of stringent, and the "blood out" rule is even tougher.

And for all you idiots out there pondering on the name, "peckerwood" is southern slang for white trash. It's got nothing to do with references to their manhood.
nm
2013-05-05 07:05:04 PM  
1 votes:
I'd be curious exactly what put him of the sex offenders registry.  Lots of shiat in the state gets you on the registry and not all of involves child molesting or unconsented acts.
(Also, if what he was convicted of was "child molest" in California, that is a misdemeanor that involves no physical contact.)
2013-05-05 07:02:53 PM  
1 votes:
Who would have thought, a person with neck tattoos has poor impulse control.
2013-05-05 07:01:13 PM  
1 votes:
There was an interesting story a few years ago about a very well-educated guy who ended up in prison for drug and fraud charges.  He wrote a fascinating sociological exposé on the various racial-identity groups in prison, including the Peckerwoods.

David Arenberg Reflects on Being Jewish in State Prison

"[The peckerwoods], notwithstanding the swastikas, lightning bolts and KKK hoods tattooed on their arms and their vile racist rhetoric, are not fundamentally ideological. Their racism derives primarily from economic considerations: by enjoining the different races from trading with each other, they enforce their share of the highly lucrative drug market."
2013-05-05 06:49:29 PM  
1 votes:

teenage mutant ninja rapist: ecmoRandomNumbers: It's good to know that homicidal sociopaths with a persecution complex have a moral code.

If you were a white dude in jail you would also have a persecution complex. What with you being a minority prone to being victims of sexual assault and all


The irony of your Fark handle has not escaped me.
2013-05-05 06:47:59 PM  
1 votes:
Setting the child molester's punishment is the responsibility of the judge and the state lawmakers. If you think it is a crime that deserves death, get them to change it to a capitol offense.
2013-05-05 06:47:19 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: As a Peckerwood, Gaskins was mandated to physically harm or kill any other white person with a history of child molestation.

So black and hispanic child molesters get a pass?


Black gangs will take care of the black pedos don't know about Hispanics since some of them seem okay with getting married to 15 years old girls while in their mid 30's
/The Mexican guy next door did just that
2013-05-05 06:46:40 PM  
1 votes:
Child molesting is very bad, but murder is worse.  How come murdering child molesters is supposed to be good?
2013-05-05 06:39:30 PM  
1 votes:
Peckerwoods are the ass-kissing, head-bobbing sycophants of the Aryan Brotherhood. He identified with a prison gang, got caught doing their work, and will get a shanking for it his first day in the main population. Good riddance.
2013-05-05 06:38:07 PM  
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: Give the white supremist a pardon for killing he pedobear.


fark that, he's a white supremacist, give him the chair.
2013-05-05 06:37:24 PM  
1 votes:
As a Peckerwood, Gaskins was mandated to physically harm or kill any other white person with a history of child molestation.

So black and hispanic child molesters get a pass?
2013-05-05 06:37:13 PM  
1 votes:
Not sure how to fell, subby?  It's a human.  Murdering another human.  Do you need to sit at the kids' table for a while?
2013-05-05 06:37:09 PM  
1 votes:
Give the white supremist a pardon for killing he pedobear.
2013-05-05 06:37:02 PM  
1 votes:
White? White like George Zimmerman, I guess.
2013-05-05 06:36:46 PM  
1 votes:
No, no, no. Killing child molesters is good. It's only wrong because it's vigilantism.
2013-05-05 05:45:37 PM  
1 votes:
Give the killer a lethal injection of potassium benzoate?
NFA [TotalFark]
2013-05-05 04:42:52 PM  
1 votes:
"During a previous stay in prison, Gaskins became a member of a jailhouse white supremacist gang called the "Peckerwoods." As a Peckerwood, Gaskins was mandated to physically harm or kill any other white person with a history of child molestation."

Sounds like Anti-MENSA
2013-05-05 04:35:12 PM  
1 votes:
A chomo isn't a Japanese cholo, is it?

No, wait. That's choro.

Hm...
 
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