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(New York Daily News)   If 3D plastic guns are outlawed, only 3D plastic criminals will have them   (nydailynews.com ) divider line
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2013-05-05 06:36:12 PM  
3 votes:

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Sure, someone can make an all-plastic AK-47 that can be buried in the backyard along with canisters of silver nickels and MREs but you have to remember the kind of person that would buy a 3D printer is also the kind of person that would have to load it down with so many useless after market parts like eight laser sights and a bayonet on both ends that it would be incapable of firing.


www.etymoticdefense.com

The future is here.
2013-05-05 06:01:40 PM  
3 votes:
Make the plastics out of hemp and power the printers with wind energy.  Protect the environment while protecting yourself in said environment.  The libtards will self-destruct with the overwhelming amount of cognitive dissonance.
2013-05-06 03:26:35 AM  
2 votes:
www.goldismoney2.com

...3D printable wiki rifle in the forty megabyte range.

/hey just what you see in this directory, pal.
2013-05-05 06:07:44 PM  
2 votes:

bugontherug: porn, you can ban the files, you can ban printing the child porn, but it is already too late. You can't stop the internet, you can only slow it down. And just wait until virtual reality makes child porn even more realistic..


how do you even come up with these thoughts? i just lost my appetite. maybe you should become a diet counselor.
2013-05-05 05:58:08 PM  
2 votes:
you DONT NEED LENSCRAFTERS all you NEED IS DIANETICS
2013-05-05 05:54:45 PM  
2 votes:
Imagine if instead of wanting to keep people from printing 'untraceable' 'undetectable' guns we might concentrate on wanting to keep people from wanting to use 'untraceable' 'undetectable' guns.

Also, no religion too.
2013-05-05 04:57:28 PM  
2 votes:
3D printing is going to be as disruptive to manufacturing as the Internet was to IP. Give it 20 years and they'll be ubiquitous.
2013-05-05 10:55:46 PM  
1 vote:

Lt_Ryan: Just wait until someone finds out you can buy a CNC mill and steel online and starts making guns out of (gasp) metal. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the plans for just the part of the receiver that is legally classified as a gun, all the other parts are basically what you can buy online or in any store.


Or, even worse, a C&C factory.
2013-05-05 08:17:43 PM  
1 vote:
Because, yeah, banning the sharing of information has worked so well in the past.

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2013-05-05 07:34:05 PM  
1 vote:

Great Janitor: FTFA: "These guns are just as deadly as any you'd see in a gun store,


if your gun store sells Taurus.
2013-05-05 07:14:16 PM  
1 vote:

Dimensio: Great Janitor: I haven't read this thread, so if this has been said, I'm sorry, but it might be worth repeating:

You can not build a working gun out of plastic and expect it to work.  Can Not Be Done.  Only someone with a limited to zero knowledge of how guns work would think that plastic guns are a threat.

When you load a gun and pull the trigger, you are pretty much creating an explosion within the gun controlled in such a way that the bullet portion of the round flies out of the barrel of the gun and the gas used to expel the projectile is recycled to eject the spent cartridge allowing a new round to be loaded into the chamber.  That is why guns are made out of metal, strong metal, so that when the explosion is created within the gun, the gun doesn't blow up in your hands.  Plastic just doesn't have the strength.  It's fear mongering, nothing more, to suggest that you can build a gun out of plastic.  And only an idiot with zero knowledge of how guns function would even suggest such a thing.

Are you attempting to imply that the distinguished Senator Schumer is less than knowledgeable regarding firearms technology?

I suspect that you may next attempt to convince readers that Representative Carolyn McCarthy has attempted to ban firearm features without knowing what they actually are.


Do not ever talk about dear Chucky like that. He is a certified expert in every facet of American Culture.
2013-05-05 06:57:03 PM  
1 vote:
It's been 19 years since the last time someone trolled the Democrats this good. Charles Schumer and the Usual Suspects swallowed the hook back then too. http://www.nytimes.com/1994/12/28/us/bill-planned-to-ban-new-bullets. h tml

Nothing stops a charging Rhino!
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2013-05-05 06:39:14 PM  
1 vote:

untaken_name: SockMonkeyHolocaust: Sure, someone can make an all-plastic AK-47 that can be buried in the backyard along with canisters of silver nickels and MREs but you have to remember the kind of person that would buy a 3D printer is also the kind of person that would have to load it down with so many useless after market parts like eight laser sights and a bayonet on both ends that it would be incapable of firing.

[www.etymoticdefense.com image 523x600]

The future is here.


I worked at a comic book store with a gun nut that used to bring his AR-15 that had a bunch of crap on it like that in and clean it in the back. The day he bought a grenade launcher for it was the happiest day of his life. I bet he has a 3D printer now and is happily bootlegging Games Workshop models while day dreaming about the working bolt pistol he's going to make.
2013-05-05 06:35:50 PM  
1 vote:
I'm confused. Does this guy actually think that if he gets 'blueprints' for replicating a plastic weapon banned... that will be the end of it? That it would be impossible for anyone with a modicum of drafting and engineering skills to draw up something similar?

I can see it now. A black market for printing schematics passed along by nefarious criminal types on flash drives.

Right.
2013-05-05 06:34:49 PM  
1 vote:
Sure, someone can make an all-plastic AK-47 that can be buried in the backyard along with canisters of silver nickels and MREs but you have to remember the kind of person that would buy a 3D printer is also the kind of person that would have to load it down with so many useless after market parts like eight laser sights and a bayonet on both ends that it would be incapable of firing.
2013-05-05 06:32:47 PM  
1 vote:

lewismarktwo: Imagine if instead of wanting to keep people from printing 'untraceable' 'undetectable' guns we might concentrate on wanting to keep people from wanting to use 'untraceable' 'undetectable' guns.

Also, no religion too.


You're a dreamer
2013-05-05 06:30:07 PM  
1 vote:

jjorsett: BarkingUnicorn: Antivirus companies can play their game in this market and make some money.  Add software to 3D printers that checks each file against a signature database and rejects files that print guns.  Charge subscription fees for updates.  Same business model they follow now.  Make it mandatory for all 3D printers and buyers.

Of course signature-based protection isn't complete.  For an additional fee, we can give you behavioral and heuristic real-time protection against uncatalogued "threats."  Anything that might be a gun part will be rejected.

People are reprogramming 3D printers with their own software, and some are replacing the standard electronics with their own custom stuff. Some are even building their own 3D printers from scratch.  You could try putting all kinds of requirements on manufacturers, but anyone with the desire and savvy to 3D print a gun isn't going to find any of that much of an obstacle.


I think you just narrowed the problematic population down to one person.
2013-05-05 06:29:38 PM  
1 vote:
When homemade dildos are banned, then only criminals will own homemade dildos.
2013-05-05 06:29:21 PM  
1 vote:

lewismarktwo: It's ok guys... bullets are still made out of metal.


Maybe assassins are planning to bludgeon their targets to death.
2013-05-05 06:27:59 PM  
1 vote:
At the moment, 3-d printer guns are at the "explode in your hands" stage of development.

Mind, you, it's only been a few centuries since the metal originals were more prone to killing or maiming the musketeer or duellist than whatever the gun might have been pointed towards.

The Napoleonic Wars are said to be the first war in which more troops were killed on the battlefield than died of the pox and other diseases. It was also the first war in which guns were better than long bows and in which a man had a greater chance of killing an enemy or fellow soldier with a gun rather than himself.

And lovers of the Second Amendment should contemplate the fact that when the Second Amendment was passed, Mr. Wincheser, Smith, Wesson, and Colt had not yet introduced mass manufacture to the munitions and armament industries, so that the only hand guns and mass- murdering type weapons were pretty much entirely in the hands of the 1% and the upper servant classes, plus the odd farmer here and there. Landowners almost to the last man (or lady).

The American troops at Valley Forge were mostly armed with farm implements and frozen toes which they could throw at the enemy since they didn't have any boots and their feet were wrapped in strips torn off of their shirts.

The Founding Fathers did not mean for every Tom, Dick and Harry to have an arsenel that would impress the King of England.

They meant to have an arsenel of their own that would keep the slaves, tenants, indentured servants and riff-riff in their places so gentlemen, rich farmers, and patricians could get on with the serious business of enslaving the blacks, slaughtering the reds, converting and looting the yellows of the wealth of the Orient, and pissing on anybody below the honourary rank of Captain who made the mistake of thinking they they are "white". They believed in "well-regulated militias" only because they were the Captains, Lieutenants, Colonels, and Generals who did the regulating and who could call up the militias to defend the interests or whims of their masters.

The Whigs and the Tories in those days had their own free market approach to National Defence. They bought and sold the officer ranks, made good to massive incomes to re-pay the high prices and operating cost of regiments and armies from whatever they could steal in the way of loot from enemies or the populace, or in logistic manipulation of materiel from gubbermint contracts. They were prepared to revolt against their Sovereign the American People as readily as they had cast off the Metropolitan elites and Crown.

In short, they were very much like modern Republicans and Democrats, except that they could be hanged for breaking the laws against piracy and plunder, which they had not yet had the leisure to re-write the laws and Constituton to make their grand theft and petty peculations legal.

Remember their motto: We must all hang together or we shall assuredly hang separately.
2013-05-05 06:23:23 PM  
1 vote:

Vlad_the_Inaner: Ban 3D printing because zip guns were impossible before was invented!

/guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.
//or more properly the holes bullets leave kill people


Actually, it's usually myocardial infarction  caused by the holes bullets leave that kills people.
2013-05-05 06:19:23 PM  
1 vote:
Ban 3D printing because zip guns were impossible before was invented!

/guns don't kill people, bullets kill people.
//or more properly the holes bullets leave kill people
2013-05-05 06:18:45 PM  
1 vote:

RexTalionis: Rincewind53: Honest Bender: Why do they "have" to outlaw them?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it perfectly legal for me to manufacture my own firearms now?  What difference does it make how I do so?  Or are things just legal until it becomes too easy to do?

Key word here is  plastic. aka, invisible to metal detectors, therefore more dangerous and not permissible under federal law (I think).

The 3D printed guns that Defense Distributed have a piece of metal inside (aside from a nail that is used as a firing pin) to make it detectable by metal detectors. However, no one who prints one of their guns will have to put the metal piece in it. Considering that these printed guns also get destroyed after a few shots fired, they're almost perfect assassination weapons.

There has to be way better control of these things.




We could ban clothes.
2013-05-05 06:16:12 PM  
1 vote:

Lt_Ryan: Just wait until someone finds out you can buy a CNC mill and steel

all kinds of plastics online and starts making guns out of (gasp) metal plastic. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the plans for just the part of the receiver that is legally classified as a gun, all the other parts are basically what you can buy online or in any store.
FTFY.

Alternatively, you can make guns by making a copies of a real gun using two-part silicone rubber and epoxy resin. It will fall into pieces after a few shots, but hey, it's a GUN.
2013-05-05 06:08:41 PM  
1 vote:
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

3d plastic criminal
2013-05-05 06:07:40 PM  
1 vote:
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a 3D printer is a good guy with a 3D printer.
2013-05-05 06:05:11 PM  
1 vote:

radarlove: thisisyourbrainonFark: radarlove: Quantum Apostrophe: 3D print yourself some Lenscrafters and think about it.

What do most people shell out more for at Lenscrafters- the lenses, or those God-awful Christian Dior frames that they can easily print up on a printer now?

Because I still have aaaaaaaaaaahhhhh-ooooooooooooooshreeeeeeeeeeeeee-dialup?

¿lolque?


It was my attempt at the old internet dial-up tone, you know, before there was a Fark or a farking Caturday.
2013-05-05 06:04:36 PM  
1 vote:

detritus: Make the plastics out of hemp and power the printers with wind energy. Protect the environment while protecting yourself in said environment. The libtards will self-destruct with the overwhelming amount of cognitive dissonance.


Maybe so. The left hasn't evolved a natural resistance to the effects of CD from prolonged exposure, like the right has. Survival of the dimmest, I guess.
2013-05-05 06:01:30 PM  
1 vote:
3d printer ownership and gun manufacture should be mandatory. that will fix the problem.
2013-05-05 05:53:40 PM  
1 vote:
3.bp.blogspot.com

"I'm comin' over to hurt your kids and take your property, and there's nothin' you can do to stop me, see?  Hmyeah!"
2013-05-05 05:52:45 PM  
1 vote:

Raharu: You mean the picture of the printed gun with the broken trigger?


SHUSH YOU
3D PRINTING IS YOUR NEW GOD
EVERYTHING YOU KNEW IS OBSOLETE

ALL HAIL OUR THREE DIMENSIONAL FUTURE

Rincewind53: 3D printing is going to be as disruptive to manufacturing as the Internet was to IP. Give it 20 years and they'll be ubiquitous.


You have no clue about how anything is manufactured.

"3D printing" has been used in manufacturing for about 30 years now

The "disruptive" future you imagine is NOW.

What's happening is a new hobby market for plastic trinkets and exaggerated breathless stories like this one.

Also... information processing require little energy and very little material. 3D printing is about the physical world.

See the difference?

3D print yourself some Lenscrafters and think about it.
2013-05-05 05:48:51 PM  
1 vote:

Rincewind53: 3D printing is going to be as disruptive to manufacturing as the Internet was to IP. Give it 20 years and they'll be ubiquitous.


it's cause they make transformers

/more than meets teh eye
2013-05-05 05:47:37 PM  
1 vote:
"Now anyone, a terrorist, someone who is mentally ill, a spousal abuser, a felon, can essentially open a gun factory in their garage," he said. "It must be stopped."


It's too late. As soon as someone uploads the files online you are already too late. You can ban the guns, you can ban the files, you can ban printing the guns, but it is already too late. You can't stop the internet, you can only slow it down. And just wait until hand held lasers become more powerful. We will then have untraceable phasers. No need to worry about bullets or noise suppression. Just a click and you can kill someone.
2013-05-05 05:15:08 PM  
1 vote:

Rincewind53: Honest Bender: Why do they "have" to outlaw them?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it perfectly legal for me to manufacture my own firearms now?  What difference does it make how I do so?  Or are things just legal until it becomes too easy to do?

Key word here is  plastic. aka, invisible to metal detectors, therefore more dangerous and not permissible under federal law (I think).


That's their problem.
 
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