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(NewsBusters)   Bill Maher, "Obama would still be a community organizer if he'd been busted for smoking pot." Not sure if this is argument for reform, or more draconian pot laws   (newsbusters.org ) divider line
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2013-05-05 05:38:34 AM  
The dude's black.

He wouldn't be a still community organizer if he'd been caught, he'd be a cell block organizer.
 
2013-05-05 08:12:30 AM  
Dear Bill Mayer:

Shut up, you coont.
 
2013-05-05 08:14:01 AM  
Didn't RAND PAUL say much the same thing?  And pointed out that W, as well, might have ended up with a drug conviction that would have ruined his career as well?

But someone that Potato Busters think is a libby-lib-liberal said it, so it's a bad thing to say.
 
2013-05-05 08:29:30 AM  
Did Maher start getting his weed from Glenn Beck?

/there's something strange in that sh*t
 
2013-05-05 08:44:05 AM  
That's probably true.  I would have voted for him, but likely anyone over 30-35 would have.  That would have decimated his support in the primaries too.
 
2013-05-05 08:52:24 AM  

hardinparamedic: Dear Bill Mayer:

Shut up, you coont.


Normally I rail against Maher for all the damage he did to libertarianism's public image by trying to claim himself to be one so that he could justify making fun of people on the right, but on this one he is spot on.

Although I should probably point out that I'm one of the libertarians that makes Randroids cry by humiliating them publicly and have never met a Paul supporter I couldn't browbeat into silence, which would probably get me labelled as a liberal by anybody who watches Fox News.
 
2013-05-05 09:48:26 AM  

hardinparamedic: Dear Bill Mayer:

Shut up, you coont.


6/10. the misspelling was a nice touch.
 
2013-05-05 10:25:30 AM  
Indeed. But Obama's drug use - which included cocaine - didn't bother his devotees in the media.

Indeed,   W used drugs.  And he's an addict, not just a dabbler.  I don't recall his devotees in the media making it a big whoop.  Nor should they have.

Oh, and Laura Bush killed a guy.
 
2013-05-05 11:14:50 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Indeed. But Obama's drug use - which included cocaine - didn't bother his devotees in the media.

Indeed,   W used drugs.  And he's an addict, not just a dabbler.  I don't recall his devotees in the media making it a big whoop.  Nor should they have.

Oh, and Laura Bush killed a guy.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp - Status: True.
 
2013-05-05 11:16:25 AM  
Well, if he had stupid enough that he got busted for pot, he wouldn't have deserved to be president.
 
2013-05-05 11:21:45 AM  

SphericalTime: That's probably true.  I would have voted for him, but likely anyone over 30-35 would have.  That would have decimated his support in the primaries too.


I'm over 30-35 and I would have voted for him.
 
2013-05-05 11:21:56 AM  
Obama wouldn't be president if he'd been caught with pot, this is true. This doesn't bother the media much, this is also true.

Newsbusters interpretation: ZOMGZWTFBBQ IMPEACH!
My interpretation: No shiat, pot shouldn't be illegal. The media knows that.


So are people opposed to the legalization of marijuana going to be the left's next targets?

Watch out, conservatives. In the coming years you're going to be labeled as intolerant weedophobes!

I hope Newsbusters is right about that. Stupid ideas are stupid.
 
2013-05-05 11:23:58 AM  
FTA -Watch out, conservatives. In the coming years you're going to be labeled as intolerant weedophobes!

Except that conservatives increasingly don't give a crap if it's legalized. In the latest poll I could find (Pew) it says that 37% of Republicans favor it being legalized but 57% say that the federal government shouldn't enforce the drugs laws in states that have made it legal and even more say that the effort to stop it isn't cost effective.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/04/04/majority-now-supports-legaliz in g-marijuana/
 
2013-05-05 11:24:53 AM  
Straight to executions, and allow the local gun club to carry it out to save taxpayer money.
 
2013-05-05 11:29:44 AM  

Brubold: FTA -Watch out, conservatives. In the coming years you're going to be labeled as intolerant weedophobes!

Except that conservatives increasingly don't give a crap if it's legalized. In the latest poll I could find (Pew) it says that 37% of Republicans favor it being legalized but 57% say that the federal government shouldn't enforce the drugs laws in states that have made it legal and even more say that the effort to stop it isn't cost effective.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/04/04/majority-now-supports-legaliz in g-marijuana/


The libertarian-leaning ones don't care.

But the religious fundie ones in the South...yeah...they still care.
 
2013-05-05 11:29:56 AM  
Dubya was a coke fiend, but I guess when you have the correct skin-tone and can reliably fake a southern drawl, the American people are capable of forgiving you.  Just a good ol' boy who slipped up and is walking the path of Christian virtue once more.
 
2013-05-05 11:34:42 AM  

Raharu: Lionel Mandrake: Indeed. But Obama's drug use - which included cocaine - didn't bother his devotees in the media.

Indeed,   W used drugs.  And he's an addict, not just a dabbler.  I don't recall his devotees in the media making it a big whoop.  Nor should they have.

Oh, and Laura Bush killed a guy.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp - Status: True.


You can always trust the accuracy of a Seth MacFarlane gag.

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2013-05-05 12:04:24 PM  
I wonder when Maher made the turn from funny political commentator to bitter old man.

If it happens to Stewart, we riot.
 
2013-05-05 12:11:22 PM  
I say anybody caught in possession of even a yoctogram of marihuana should be hanged, drawn, and quartered in full view of the public. Anything less shows those Satanic potheads that they have a chance of making it to Heaven when they die; we all know they're all going to be tortured from here to eternity. We might as well make it obvious that they are more evil than a billion Hitlers put together each time they take a puff of the funny stuff.
 
2013-05-05 12:16:50 PM  
what does dracula have to do with pot
 
2013-05-05 12:18:36 PM  
I think he's pointing out the hypocrisy of making those who get caught criminals and those who are not independent minded folks who had a rebellious streak in youth. I believe the daily show also addressed this issue.
 
2013-05-05 12:20:39 PM  
Penn Jillette pretty much said the same thing. And let's not forget the "maybe a little blow".
 
2013-05-05 12:21:28 PM  

Serious Black: I say anybody caught in possession of even a yoctogram of marihuana should be hanged, drawn, and quartered in full view of the public. Anything less shows those Satanic potheads that they have a chance of making it to Heaven when they die; we all know they're all going to be tortured from here to eternity. We might as well make it obvious that they are more evil than a billion Hitlers put together each time they take a puff of the funny stuff.


Dude... you're harshing my mellow
 
2013-05-05 12:22:07 PM  
Our last three Presidents admitted to illegal drug use, and if convicted, probably none would have been President.
 
2013-05-05 12:22:47 PM  

Solty Dog: I wonder when Maher made the turn from funny political commentator to bitter old man.

If it happens to Stewart, we riot.


Prior to 9/11 and the War On Terror™, Bill Maher and Neal Boortz were the two main libertarian commentators in the media.  When 9/11 happened, and the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, the TSA, and the rest of the events of the day transpired, both moved and were moved elsewhere on the political spectrum by a combination of their changing attitudes to new information, and the spectrum moving under their feet.

Maher reacted to these events and found himself moving further and further to the left, while Boortz went right.  These days Boortz is just an angry old man ranting at clouds.  He's a Republican who just doesn't believe in the vast majority of their social issues; he abandoned early on any pretense of supporting libertarian non-interventionism, but he refuses to discuss abortion because nothing gets accomplished (and it's not good radio to him).  I will give him credit, though - even after he moved into the suburbs of kooksville railing about Obama, he still maintains that the people that complained about the Georgia state flag and insist on using Confederate symbols are dead wrong.  He even coined a term for the folks that didn't want to give up the Confederate flag with the St. Andrew's Cross - "flaggots".

Maher became something of a liberal after 9/11.  He created that book of satirical propaganda posters (which in retrospect was a really clever work and didn't get the credit it deserved), but in the years following he embraced a good number of actual liberal economic philosophies, casting aside the libertarian hangups on laissez faire  economics and embracing Rooseveltian-Wilsonian regulation of powerful industries.  But I guess living in California can do that to you - his pet project during the 2012 election season was a ballot referendum that required food companies to fully label foods using GMO ingredients.  That got shot down by Monsanto, Archer-Daniels, and the other big agribusinesses.
 
2013-05-05 12:29:17 PM  

Solty Dog: I wonder when Maher made the turn from funny political commentator to bitter old man.


...he didn't.  You just realized you're not part of his demographic.
 
2013-05-05 12:29:46 PM  
Maher is upset that Obama has allowed the continued federal pot raids.
 
2013-05-05 12:35:20 PM  

s2s2s2: Maher is upset that Obama has allowed the continued federal pot raids.


He probably is.  Your point?
 
2013-05-05 12:37:00 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Brubold: FTA -Watch out, conservatives. In the coming years you're going to be labeled as intolerant weedophobes!

Except that conservatives increasingly don't give a crap if it's legalized. In the latest poll I could find (Pew) it says that 37% of Republicans favor it being legalized but 57% say that the federal government shouldn't enforce the drugs laws in states that have made it legal and even more say that the effort to stop it isn't cost effective.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/04/04/majority-now-supports-legaliz in g-marijuana/

The libertarian-leaning ones don't care.

But the religious fundie ones in the South...yeah...they still care.


Not so much as you might think. It's the over 65 group that is most opposed and they're dying off gradually.
 
2013-05-05 12:38:47 PM  
It's a good thing President Clinton didn't inhale.
 
2013-05-05 12:57:16 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: You can always trust the accuracy of a Seth MacFarlane gag.


That's kinda farked up.  She was only 17. Anybody can make a mistake like that.

I dunno.. I never cared for that meme.

Carry on.
 
2013-05-05 12:58:57 PM  

StopLurkListen: Our last three Presidents admitted to illegal drug use, and if convicted, probably none would have been President.


Please, elaborate upon the downsides.
 
2013-05-05 01:03:16 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Solty Dog: I wonder when Maher made the turn from funny political commentator to bitter old man.

If it happens to Stewart, we riot.

Prior to 9/11 and the War On Terror™, Bill Maher and Neal Boortz were the two main libertarian commentators in the media.  When 9/11 happened, and the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, the TSA, and the rest of the events of the day transpired, both moved and were moved elsewhere on the political spectrum by a combination of their changing attitudes to new information, and the spectrum moving under their feet.

Maher reacted to these events and found himself moving further and further to the left, while Boortz went right.  These days Boortz is just an angry old man ranting at clouds.  He's a Republican who just doesn't believe in the vast majority of their social issues; he abandoned early on any pretense of supporting libertarian non-interventionism, but he refuses to discuss abortion because nothing gets accomplished (and it's not good radio to him).  I will give him credit, though - even after he moved into the suburbs of kooksville railing about Obama, he still maintains that the people that complained about the Georgia state flag and insist on using Confederate symbols are dead wrong.  He even coined a term for the folks that didn't want to give up the Confederate flag with the St. Andrew's Cross - "flaggots".

Maher became something of a liberal after 9/11.  He created that book of satirical propaganda posters (which in retrospect was a really clever work and didn't get the credit it deserved), but in the years following he embraced a good number of actual liberal economic philosophies, casting aside the libertarian hangups on laissez faire   economics and embracing Rooseveltian-Wilsonian regulation of powerful industries.  But I guess living in California can do that to you - his pet project during the 2012 election season was a ballot referendum that required food companies to fully label foods using GMO ingredients.  That got sho ...


The only issues Maher has ever been a libertarian about are drugs and gay rights.

On those issues most libertarians agree with him. On pretty much everything else he's pretty well liberal. I give him credit for his rather colorful representation of Atheism as well.

But to call him a libertarian really doesn't do any justice to actual libertarians. In fact he has hurt the public opinion of libertarianism in many ways, almost as much as the Randroids and Paultards have.

He called himself a libertarian to avoid the fate of being labeled a liberal, which to be fair to him was the automatic response by media at the time for criticizing or talking shiat about conservatives and the Bush administration. He is not and never has been, but that doesn't stop him from slipping into the label willy nilly to make jokes and get away with incredibly tasteless (but funny) anecdotes or analogies.

I like the guy, I watch his show, but I would have some choice words for him were I ever to appear on it.
 
2013-05-05 01:03:31 PM  
If Comedy Central hadn't needed to fill the half-hour slot before MST3K came on, back in the '90s, Bill Maher would be remembered for his appearance on Murder She Wrote.
 
2013-05-05 01:07:01 PM  

FlashHarry: hardinparamedic: Dear Bill Mayer:

Shut up, you coont.

6/10. the misspelling was a nice touch.


Would have been better had he used the accepted epithet "Pig Maher".
 
2013-05-05 01:07:42 PM  
He's absolutely farking right. I'm a two-time Obama voter, but it REALLY farking pisses me off when politicians joke about smoking pot, and have a known history of smoking it, but continue let 100,000's of Americans get arrested for it every single year. It's as hypocritical as the closeted gay Republicans who rail against gay civil rights.

If Obama had been arrested for the illegal marijuana smoking he's admitted to, his life's ambitions would have been cut waaayyy short. But it's OK for other people to suffer that fate, right? LEGALIZE IT NOW, YOU FARKING HYPOCRITES.
 
2013-05-05 01:10:35 PM  
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2013-05-05 01:11:46 PM  
We should have a new show that features Bill Maher and Dennis Miller. Kind of a VH1 style "Where are they now?" bit showing clips of when they were funny or insightful.
 
2013-05-05 01:12:51 PM  

Ned Stark: StopLurkListen: Our last three Presidents admitted to illegal drug use, and if convicted, probably none would have been President.

Please, elaborate upon the downsides.


Vice President Sarah Palin.
 
2013-05-05 01:13:51 PM  
It's an argument that NewsBusters links suck
 
2013-05-05 01:15:14 PM  

mutterfark: We should have a new show that features Bill Maher and Dennis Miller. Kind of a VH1 style "Where are they now?" bit showing clips of when they were funny or insightful.


Miller went off the deep end and proved to the world that it's impossible to be right wing and funny. Maher is still farking funny, hasn't completely reversed his politics from where they were in the 90s, and I don't understand the hate.
 
2013-05-05 01:19:07 PM  

SundaesChild: SphericalTime: That's probably true.  I would have voted for him, but likely anyone over 30-35 would have.  That would have decimated his support in the primaries too.

I'm over 30-35 and I would have voted for him.


But you wouldn't have gotten the chance to, that's the point. A bust for pot early in his life likely completely derails Obama's life.
 
2013-05-05 01:24:19 PM  
Personally I really like his show.  Im surprised at some of the conservatives he gets on there who good naturedly try to argue their positions, but often than not in the panel discussions, they seem to acknowledge that their positions are often indefensible.
 
2013-05-05 01:27:17 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: mutterfark: We should have a new show that features Bill Maher and Dennis Miller. Kind of a VH1 style "Where are they now?" bit showing clips of when they were funny or insightful.

Miller went off the deep end and proved to the world that it's impossible to be right wing and funny. Maher is still farking funny, hasn't completely reversed his politics from where they were in the 90s, and I don't understand the hate.


Perhaps you're right. I used to think both were funny at one time. IMHO they both allowed their egos too much free rein.


/Of course this comment about funny comes from a pathetic poster sitting in a house full of empty window frames. ;)
 
2013-05-05 01:27:44 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Miller went off the deep end and proved to the world that it's impossible to be right wing and funny. Maher is still farking funny, hasn't completely reversed his politics from where they were in the 90s, and I don't understand the hate.


It's his face. I watch Maher's show almost every week, I enjoy his standup, but I still want to punch him in the face every time he smirks.
 
2013-05-05 01:30:12 PM  

Ned Stark: StopLurkListen: Our last three Presidents admitted to illegal drug use, and if convicted, probably none would have been President.

Please, elaborate upon the downsides.


No Darrell Hammond Clinton impersonations.
 
2013-05-05 01:30:54 PM  

CorporatePerson: shower_in_my_socks: Miller went off the deep end and proved to the world that it's impossible to be right wing and funny. Maher is still farking funny, hasn't completely reversed his politics from where they were in the 90s, and I don't understand the hate.

It's his face. I watch Maher's show almost every week, I enjoy his standup, but I still want to punch him in the face every time he smirks.



He is a smarmy dude. I agree with probably 70% of what he says. But I feel like the people that are left wing but hate him don't really watch his show anymore, so they're basing it on the persona around him and a faded memory of that smarmy dude with the punchable face that they watched a decade ago.
 
2013-05-05 01:30:55 PM  
It's Bill Maher. Clearly he was arguing against vaccinations.
 
2013-05-05 01:42:09 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: what does dracula have to do with pot


Not Dracula, you bonehead.

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2013-05-05 01:51:42 PM  
I'm still not president and I know why
Because I got high
Because I got high
Because I got high
 
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