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(AZCentral)   The next time you're standing in line for Disneyland's Space Mountain, pause for a moment and admire the hard work and dedication given by the man whose job it is to clean the ride's slanted roof   (azcentral.com) divider line 42
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2013-05-05 09:36:33 AM
Why would they close it?  A guy falling off the roof has nothing to do with the function of the actual ride.
 
2013-05-05 09:40:36 AM
I havent been to Disney since I was 8 or so - but that ride was there when I went - so for 30+ years life somehow managed to go on with the upkeep of that ride.  Closing it for a month seems a bit  ridiculous given decades of "safe" operation.
 
2013-05-05 09:43:57 AM
I expected a story about vomit.
 
2013-05-05 09:46:56 AM
Aren't Disney worth billions? Pay up you cheap f*cks. A good chunk of that would probably have to go to medical bills. Also once you suffer a fall like that even after recuperating you're likely never to be quite right again limiting your work options. Dude might have to shift to less physical work which means he'll probably need a year or two to upgrade his schooling.

Fookin' job creators, man.
 
2013-05-05 09:47:01 AM
Wasn't this the contractor's fault for failing to establish his own rigging?

Or is it cheaper to pay the fine than to have someone reveal the nationality of the person the contractor was using to do the cleaning? I mean, this kind of work really sounds like what you'd have specially trained staff to do, that's expensive and if Disney was caught directly employing illegals then they'd be subject to huge fines. So outsource to some drinking buddy to hire the illegals.
 
2013-05-05 09:49:00 AM
Oh and lawyers fees. Can't forget the jackal lawyers.
 
2013-05-05 09:51:41 AM

here to help: Aren't Disney worth billions? Pay up you cheap f*cks. A good chunk of that would probably have to go to medical bills. Also once you suffer a fall like that even after recuperating you're likely never to be quite right again limiting your work options. Dude might have to shift to less physical work which means he'll probably need a year or two to upgrade his schooling.

Fookin' job creators, man.


Disney has precisely zero qualms about throwing a couple hundred thousand at a problem to make it go away.  Something aside from the cash is factoring into their decision to "have meetings with state agencies about the citations."
 
2013-05-05 09:53:46 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Disney has precisely zero qualms about throwing a couple hundred thousand at a problem to make it go away.


Yeah, I was pretty surprised to hear they were being dicks about such a small amount. Hell, wouldn't their insurance cover something like that?
 
2013-05-05 09:57:06 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: here to help: Aren't Disney worth billions? Pay up you cheap f*cks. A good chunk of that would probably have to go to medical bills. Also once you suffer a fall like that even after recuperating you're likely never to be quite right again limiting your work options. Dude might have to shift to less physical work which means he'll probably need a year or two to upgrade his schooling.

Fookin' job creators, man.

Disney has precisely zero qualms about throwing a couple hundred thousand at a problem to make it go away.  Something aside from the cash is factoring into their decision to "have meetings with state agencies about the citations."


I think they have very good reasons for not wanting to admit fault when they're about to get sued by the guy who fell.  That's gonna be a lot more than $235,000.  It might also factor into what kind of remedial measures they'll be required to take in the future.
 
2013-05-05 10:01:43 AM
Holy christ I fail at reading. That money's going to the state. Not the dude. I blame having to read through the stupid AZCentral javascript warning and having just woke up. Pay the dude. Not the politicians.
 
2013-05-05 10:23:09 AM
The next time I'm standing in line to hand my wallet and dignity over to the world's worst copyright troll, Subby, I am more likely to slit my wrists than to pause in admiration of anything.
 
2013-05-05 10:28:20 AM
Dammit, why do azcentral links go dark after loading?  Almost as annoying as Huffington post, auto playing multiple videos on opening.  Add another site to the never click list.
 
2013-05-05 10:46:13 AM

Kyle Butler: Why would they close it?  A guy falling off the roof has nothing to do with the function of the actual ride.


the roof was dirty
 
2013-05-05 10:50:35 AM
Nothing about Ric Flair?
 
2013-05-05 10:52:01 AM

gweilo8888: The next time I'm standing in line to hand my wallet and dignity over to the world's worst copyright troll, Subby, I am more likely to slit my wrists than to pause in admiration of anything.


Well, gosh, aren't you all principled and such.
 
2013-05-05 10:57:39 AM
Can they at least fix the Yeti on the Expedition Everest roller coaster? $440 a year for my annual pass and $90 for a single admission so they have the money. If we can put a man on the moon, we can fix a robotic Yeti in Orlando.
 
2013-05-05 11:13:05 AM

wildcardjack: Wasn't this the contractor's fault for failing to establish his own rigging?


I'm curious about that as well, from what I've seen one of the unwritten rules of rigging is often "I will only bother to do this properly when the owner of the company or OSHA is lurking around."  I see they fined the contracting company but they also went after Disney for some reason.  Maybe Disney's facilities management had been looking the other way when the cleaning crew half assed their safety measures.
 
Slu
2013-05-05 11:13:51 AM
No thanks. F Disneyland.
 
2013-05-05 11:15:16 AM
If I went to any of the Disney parks and Space Mountain AND Soarin' were closed on the same day, I'd be super pissed.
 
2013-05-05 11:29:28 AM

ha-ha-guy: wildcardjack: Wasn't this the contractor's fault for failing to establish his own rigging?

I'm curious about that as well, from what I've seen one of the unwritten rules of rigging is often "I will only bother to do this properly when the owner of the company or OSHA is lurking around."  I see they fined the contracting company but they also went after Disney for some reason.  Maybe Disney's facilities management had been looking the other way when the cleaning crew half assed their safety measures.


OSHA tends to fine you if you circumvent or ignore the rules. If your safety equipment is being used and you still get hurt you generally won't get fined. OSHA rules can be a bit tricky though I have been on construction jobs where I have needed to perform tasks that are impossible if you follow OSHA protocol.
 
2013-05-05 11:29:50 AM

DoomPaul: Can they at least fix the Yeti on the Expedition Everest roller coaster? $440 a year for my annual pass and $90 for a single admission so they have the money. If we can put a man on the moon, we can fix a robotic Yeti in Orlando.


What really annoys me are those new Disney specials on the travel channel that still pretend like the yeti lunges at you and they show the video from when the ride opened. (Show produced in 2013).
 
2013-05-05 11:36:30 AM

wildcardjack: Wasn't this the contractor's fault for failing to establish his own rigging?

Or is it cheaper to pay the fine than to have someone reveal the nationality of the person the contractor was using to do the cleaning? I mean, this kind of work really sounds like what you'd have specially trained staff to do, that's expensive and if Disney was caught directly employing illegals then they'd be subject to huge fines. So outsource to some drinking buddy to hire the illegals.


The fines came because OSHA did an inspection after the accident like they always do. They got popped for a wide variety of things on the fine, bad fire extinguishers, safety barriers, and the anchors that the cleaning guys tie into

Pretty standard shiat, if OSHA looks at ANY place close enough they can find something, OSHA hasn't decided yet if they warrant more follow-up inspections, paying the money and showing they fixed the stuff the inspectors caught the first time is Disney's play to avoid that would be my guess
 
2013-05-05 11:37:13 AM
i.imgur.com

That's funny, I can see it just fine, except some asshole put a big "LET US RUN RANDOM CODE ON YOUR MACHINE SO WE CAN TRACK WHERE YOU GO" warning over it.
 
2013-05-05 11:48:57 AM

flsprtsgod: Well, gosh, aren't you all principled and such.


No, not terribly, but Disney is about as close to the devil as it's possible for a company to be without being the latest Blackwater rebrand. They and their paid lackeys have seen copyright retroactively extended on works that should already be in the public domain to the point where Mickey Mouse is unlikely to enter public domain in my son's lifetime, let alone my own.
 
2013-05-05 11:51:44 AM
Pat no attention to the man behind the curtain hanging from the ceiling.
 
2013-05-05 11:57:07 AM

fluffy2097: [i.imgur.com image 834x543]

That's funny, I can see it just fine, except some asshole put a big "LET US RUN RANDOM CODE ON YOUR MACHINE SO WE CAN TRACK WHERE YOU GO" warning over it.


It's a sh*tty site from a sh*tty state.
 
2013-05-05 12:12:55 PM

labman: DoomPaul: Can they at least fix the Yeti on the Expedition Everest roller coaster? $440 a year for my annual pass and $90 for a single admission so they have the money. If we can put a man on the moon, we can fix a robotic Yeti in Orlando.

What really annoys me are those new Disney specials on the travel channel that still pretend like the yeti lunges at you and they show the video from when the ride opened. (Show produced in 2013).


I was there a month ago and it was working fine.

/GF neglected to tell me about the backwards, pitch black, drop once you get to the top.
//First time I rode it a brazillian guy was sitting next to me who didn't flinch at all during the whole ride.  Thats a realman.
 
2013-05-05 01:03:23 PM

DoomPaul: Can they at least fix the Yeti on the Expedition Everest roller coaster? $440 a year for my annual pass and $90 for a single admission so they have the money. If we can put a man on the moon, we can fix a robotic Yeti in Orlando.


The imaginEARS never factored in a way to equipment in Everest to fix the Yeti. Only way to do so is to tear open the mountain, yank him out, fix him, then put the mountain and yeti together again. Attendance is bad enough at Animal Kingdom without their only thrill ride down. Same thing with Dinosaur. Disco yeti is here to stay
 
2013-05-05 01:10:37 PM
We were quite bummed that Space Mountain was closed when we went to Disneyland earlier this week...
 
2013-05-05 02:28:17 PM
The marble in my foyer was carved from Space Mountain.
 
2013-05-05 02:33:50 PM

akuma976: DoomPaul: Can they at least fix the Yeti on the Expedition Everest roller coaster? $440 a year for my annual pass and $90 for a single admission so they have the money. If we can put a man on the moon, we can fix a robotic Yeti in Orlando.

The imaginEARS never factored in a way to equipment in Everest to fix the Yeti. Only way to do so is to tear open the mountain, yank him out, fix him, then put the mountain and yeti together again. Attendance is bad enough at Animal Kingdom without their only thrill ride down. Same thing with Dinosaur. Disco yeti is here to stay


When I was there last in 2011, I didn't even get Disco Yeti. They had his area all dark. When we got to the end of the ride we were like WTF, I was told there would be Yeti.
 
2013-05-05 02:54:53 PM
here to help: Holy christ I fail at reading. That money's going to the state. Not the dude. I blame having to read through the stupid AZCentral javascript warning and having just woke up.

Get 'nuke anything', two right clicks and that shiat is gone.

Web developer toolbar will also let you read it (disable all styles), but the result is not as pretty.

// LMAO at shiatty protection schemes. You want to protect your content you have to do it on the server side because we can maim anything you try to do on the client side.

// And don't lie to me and tell me that a friggin plain text page that I can clearly see requires javascript to view, you farks.
 
2013-05-05 03:20:47 PM
Or, you could go to Six Flags and ride something that actually resembles a roller coaster.
 
2013-05-05 04:32:13 PM

lordargent: here to help: Holy christ I fail at reading. That money's going to the state. Not the dude. I blame having to read through the stupid AZCentral javascript warning and having just woke up.

Get 'nuke anything', two right clicks and that shiat is gone.

Web developer toolbar will also let you read it (disable all styles), but the result is not as pretty.

// LMAO at shiatty protection schemes. You want to protect your content you have to do it on the server side because we can maim anything you try to do on the client side.

// And don't lie to me and tell me that a friggin plain text page that I can clearly see requires javascript to view, you farks.


Fortunately with NoScript and AdBlock it's very few pages that totally bork out and if they do simply allowing the main domain does the trick. AZ central isn't worth even doing that though.

One annoying thing now is ABP has allowed themselves to be bribed into having "Allow Some Non Intrusive Ads" as the default and NoScripts default whitelist has gotten pretty lengthy so I'm assuming they are taking bribes as well. Simple enough to fix though. I'll take a look at that Nuke Anything though. Thanks.
 
2013-05-05 04:33:26 PM
They do get the occasional opportunity to get a head.
 
2013-05-05 05:00:02 PM

here to help: lordargent: here to help: Holy christ I fail at reading. That money's going to the state. Not the dude. I blame having to read through the stupid AZCentral javascript warning and having just woke up.

Get 'nuke anything', two right clicks and that shiat is gone.

Web developer toolbar will also let you read it (disable all styles), but the result is not as pretty.

// LMAO at shiatty protection schemes. You want to protect your content you have to do it on the server side because we can maim anything you try to do on the client side.

// And don't lie to me and tell me that a friggin plain text page that I can clearly see requires javascript to view, you farks.

Fortunately with NoScript and AdBlock it's very few pages that totally bork out and if they do simply allowing the main domain does the trick. AZ central isn't worth even doing that though.

One annoying thing now is ABP has allowed themselves to be bribed into having "Allow Some Non Intrusive Ads" as the default and NoScripts default whitelist has gotten pretty lengthy so I'm assuming they are taking bribes as well. Simple enough to fix though. I'll take a look at that Nuke Anything though. Thanks.


Right click, inspect element, click that shiatty obfustication (div#requiredBg), remove node, repeat for (div#handleJS). Oh look, your shiatty protection/nag sheet is gone.
 
2013-05-05 05:13:19 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-05 05:30:41 PM

jdoncbus2: Nothing about Ric Flair?


Not everyon watches sweaty man soap operas
 
2013-05-05 08:23:10 PM

labman: DoomPaul: Can they at least fix the Yeti on the Expedition Everest roller coaster? $440 a year for my annual pass and $90 for a single admission so they have the money. If we can put a man on the moon, we can fix a robotic Yeti in Orlando.

What really annoys me are those new Disney specials on the travel channel that still pretend like the yeti lunges at you and they show the video from when the ride opened. (Show produced in 2013).


I just watched those shows last week.  The one with the updates for New Fantasyland definitely had Disco Yeti in them, but they obviously didn't come out and say "and this is our broken Yeti."

Third Day Mark: I was there a month ago and it was working fine.


I can guarantee you it wasn't working fine.  It may have been working in what Disney wants you to think is fine, but the full-motion Yeti will probably never come back.  As the story goes, they'd have to tear out the foundation of EE and start over to truly repair the Yeti.
 
2013-05-05 08:54:48 PM

wildcardjack: Wasn't this the contractor's fault for failing to establish his own rigging?

Or is it cheaper to pay the fine than to have someone reveal the nationality of the person the contractor was using to do the cleaning? I mean, this kind of work really sounds like what you'd have specially trained staff to do, that's expensive and if Disney was caught directly employing illegals then they'd be subject to huge fines. So outsource to some drinking buddy to hire the illegals.


It's got nothing to do with "Disney hiring illegals." There are safety procedures that need to be followed, and when I was there, they were followed pretty much to the letter. So if the contractor who was hired in to do the work failed to set up proper rigging, then it's on him, regardless of the green-card status of his workers. Legal workers are not any safer than illegal workers if some fool decides to unclip his harness because it's faster to walk over to the edge to dump a bucket than to tediously but safely climb all the way back up to the ladder.

There are plenty of illegals, as you say, who will meticulously obey regulations because they like to live, and plenty of 110% native-born Americans who will cut corners because they want to work seven hours and get paid for eight; and the ones who do are the ones who fall 60 feet from the roof of Space Mountain. And they shouldn't be allowed to benefit from their stupidity, imo, just because Disney has deep pockets.
 
2013-05-05 11:03:30 PM
wonder how much the pay him
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2013-05-06 02:51:56 PM

Third Day Mark: I was there a month ago and it was working fine.

  No it wasn't.  Trust me.  It was a million times better when it lunged at you.  now it's just a strobe light effect so it looks like it's moving, but it's not really moving.


ElusiveWookiee: I just watched those shows last week. The one with the updates for New Fantasyland definitely had Disco Yeti in them, but they obviously didn't come out and say "and this is our broken Yeti."

I didn't watch them all, but the one I saw had the lunging yeti in it and was released after the yeti had broken.  (either 2011 or 2012, I don't remember which.)
 
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