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(Washington Post)   Israel strikes Syrian targets. This is not a repeat from yesterday   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 374
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2013-05-04 10:53:03 PM  
It's nice to see a competent nation stepping up and policing things.
 
2013-05-04 10:54:04 PM  

picturescrazy: I don't have anything to add but this has to be a pretty big deal if both Tatsuma and STRYPERSWINE are in the thread, and so early. Maybe I haven't been paying attention but those are two names I haven't seen in years.


Well there are rumblings that Assad is about to declare war on Israel. Which is just hilarious.

BravadoGT: it'd be better. But they never do that. They want lots of civilian blood. Dead babies. That's their focus for choosing targets.


If only they would target IDF installations instead of purposefully target school buses and kindergarten.

Adolf Oliver Nipples: My mother-in-law naively wants to take my son to visit Israel this summer. Over my dead body. The Middle East may be engulfed in flames by this summer the way things are going right now with Syria and Iran. I didn't take all those trips to the sandbox over the last decade so that my son could be put in harm's way by his grandmother.


Oh please, I live there and there is no danger.
 
2013-05-04 10:54:10 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: utah dude: Popcorn Johnny: Good, blow the fark out of anybody even thinking about threatening you. That's how you do it.

ok, i just added you to my target list. sit tight the ballistic missiles are on their way.

Bring it, I picked up some anti-missile missiles on Craigslist.


serious? all i ever get on there is gay sex in Idaho.
 
2013-05-04 10:54:13 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: My mother-in-law naively wants to take my son to visit Israel this summer. Over my dead body. The Middle East may be engulfed in flames by this summer the way things are going right now with Syria and Iran. I didn't take all those trips to the sandbox over the last decade so that my son could be put in harm's way by his grandmother.


They're probably safer touring Israel than they are touring NYC. Israel is not "the sandbox".
 
2013-05-04 10:54:14 PM  

Lsherm: UNC_Samurai: They apparently hit an ammo dump.  The missile warheads all went up at once.

That was pretty impressive.



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and better yet
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2013-05-04 10:54:49 PM  

BravadoGT: mayIFark: BravadoGT: mayIFark: So, let me get this straight, Hamas shoots rockets at random targets in Israel - Terrorism (Agreed).
Israel shoots even more powerful stuff at random targets all over the middle east - Not Terrorism (What the fark?)

that wasn't a "random target." It wasn't a school or a pizzeria; it was a missile factory.  Meant to be fired at them.  There is a big difference.

So, according to you, if Hamas fires on a Israeli arms depot, that is fine?

it'd be better.  But they never do that.  They want lots of civilian blood.  Dead babies.  That's their focus for choosing targets.


Yet, more civilians are killed each year (100x or so) by Isrealis than by Hamas. Funny how that works.

And Israel never hit Hospital before, or was there arms too (well, some amputees do have arms left, or just one arm left).
 
2013-05-04 10:55:39 PM  

Tommy Moo: You're on your own, Israel. Don't you dare expect that you can throw a few rocks to provoke a full scale invasion, and that the United States will then step in and fight your war for you.


Because the US has such a long history of invading Israel's neighbor's for them?
 
2013-05-04 10:55:45 PM  

Parmenius: They're probably safer touring Israel than they are touring NYC. Israel is not "the sandbox".


Yeah exactly, the criminality in Israel is extremely low, and we have developed such an army and anti-terrorism measures that at the end of the day, walking the streets of New York is a lot more dangerous than visiting Israel and walking in Jerusalem at 3 in the morning.
 
2013-05-04 10:56:32 PM  

mayIFark: Farking Sovereignty, how does it work?


Being able to defend yourself, otherwise it don't mean shiat. Then it's just whoever has the bombs.
 
2013-05-04 10:56:48 PM  

BravadoGT: it'd be better.  But they never do that.  They want lots of civilian blood.  Dead babies.  That's their focus for choosing targets.


All the macho military assholes on all sides there love dead civilian babies. They spray their jockey shorts on it. When it happens to themselves they feel "justified" and when it happens to the other side its "richly deserved."
 
2013-05-04 10:57:41 PM  
BravadoGT:
it'd be better.  But they never do that.  They [Hamas] want lots of civilian blood.  Dead babies.  That's their focus for choosing targets.

They're able to aim missiles now?
 
2013-05-04 10:58:22 PM  

Tommy Moo: You're on your own, Israel. Don't you dare expect that you can throw a few rocks to provoke a full scale invasion, and that the United States will then step in and fight your war for you.


Syria can barely keep its government intact in the middle of a civil war despite having a lot more firepower. Do you really think in the middle of that Israel would need our help?
 
2013-05-04 10:58:24 PM  

Greydog: Say what you will, at least the Israelis are doing something.


Rarely in recent years could Bibi's government be accused of not "doing something."
 
2013-05-04 10:58:49 PM  
What does Syria have to gain by giving missiles to Hezbollah?
 
2013-05-04 10:58:49 PM  

Somacandra: All the macho military assholes on all sides there love dead civilian babies. They spray their jockey shorts on it. When it happens to themselves they feel "justified" and when it happens to the other side its "richly deserved."


This is bullshiat, you don't ever see Israelis dancing in the street and distributing sweets where there are news that children have been killed.

That's a farking disgusting assertion.
 
2013-05-04 10:58:56 PM  

ravenlore: Aw fark. Y'all don't even want to see Twitter right now.


One dog sees a squirrel and suddenly the whole neighborhood's barking.
 
2013-05-04 10:59:11 PM  

UNC_Samurai: They apparently hit an ammo dump.  The missile warheads all went up at once.


different angle, same explosion
 
2013-05-04 10:59:41 PM  

Somacandra: BravadoGT: it'd be better.  But they never do that.  They want lots of civilian blood.  Dead babies.  That's their focus for choosing targets.

All the macho military assholes on all sides there love dead civilian babies. They spray their jockey shorts on it. When it happens to themselves they feel "justified" and when it happens to the other side its "richly deserved."


uh...yeah.  wow.  That's a big drink of crazy right there....
 
2013-05-04 11:00:01 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What does Syria have to gain by giving missiles to Hezbollah?


getting them into the hands of someone loyal to them instead of having them fall into rebel hands
 
2013-05-04 11:00:24 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What does Syria have to gain by giving missiles to Hezbollah?


... you do realize that they've been doing that for nearly 30 years, right?
 
2013-05-04 11:00:32 PM  

mayIFark: BravadoGT: mayIFark: BravadoGT: mayIFark: So, let me get this straight, Hamas shoots rockets at random targets in Israel - Terrorism (Agreed).
Israel shoots even more powerful stuff at random targets all over the middle east - Not Terrorism (What the fark?)

that wasn't a "random target." It wasn't a school or a pizzeria; it was a missile factory.  Meant to be fired at them.  There is a big difference.

So, according to you, if Hamas fires on a Israeli arms depot, that is fine?

it'd be better.  But they never do that.  They want lots of civilian blood.  Dead babies.  That's their focus for choosing targets.

Yet, more civilians are killed each year (100x or so) by Isrealis than by Hamas. Funny how that works.

And Israel never hit Hospital before, or was there arms too (well, some amputees do have arms left, or just one arm left).


Israel is a sovereign nation with trained soldiers, Hamas is a terrorist organization.  Israel doesn't station military facilities right next to, or inside of, schools and hospitals, Hamas does.  Without an internationally recognized military force Hamas terrorists are by default civilians.
 
2013-05-04 11:00:35 PM  

Tatsuma: Parmenius: They're probably safer touring Israel than they are touring NYC. Israel is not "the sandbox".

Yeah exactly, the criminality in Israel is extremely low, and we have developed such an army and anti-terrorism measures that at the end of the day, walking the streets of New York is a lot more dangerous than visiting Israel and walking in Jerusalem at 3 in the morning.


Unless you're a woman not being escorted by a family member, I guess.
 
2013-05-04 11:00:51 PM  
leevis:  Because the US has such a long history of invading Israel's neighbor's for them?

And Iran's to boot. By invading Afghanistan and Iraq, George W. Bush removed the main military threats to the Iranian regime on either geographical side. President Bush is the best friend the Iranians have had since his father sold them weapons in the late 1980's to illegally fund Nicaraguan rebels.
 
2013-05-04 11:01:05 PM  

BravadoGT: uh...yeah. wow. That's a big drink of crazy right there....


This is from a guy who said that Judaism was invented after Xianity and claims to teach religion in University. Just ignore it.
 
2013-05-04 11:01:16 PM  

PsiChick: nmemkha: Justified or not, I bet the Muslim countries that surround it are super happy fine with Israel's new aggression.

Talk about your playing with matches in a sea of gasoline ...

THIS. If this blows up in their face, I will feel no farking sympathy.


And yet, if it does blow up, we'll all have to pay the price of our going to war to help Israel, because you know damn well the idiotic right will demand we save Israel from their own mess, as usual.

Luckily, everyone ELSE, including leaders in the ME, knows it too, so I don't really see this going anywhere.
 
2013-05-04 11:01:40 PM  

Tatsuma: Oh please, I live there and there is no danger.


I suppose our danger threshold is very different. There's no danger for me, but for my son? Oh hell no. I cringe when he crosses the street.

Parmenius: They're probably safer touring Israel than they are touring NYC. Israel is not "the sandbox".


You may very well be right about that. But there's not a country going through a violent civil war on the border of New York City, nor is New York City surrounded by countries that have vowed to wipe it off the map. Additionally, NYC doesn't feel the need to lob a few missiles at Jersey City.

Perspective, guys. I am a typical overprotective parent who doesn't trust his mother-in-law, especially since she's wheelchair-bound with MS. When things start blowing up due to military actions I don't want him within 200 miles of it.
 
2013-05-04 11:01:43 PM  

Somacandra: BravadoGT: it'd be better.  But they never do that.  They want lots of civilian blood.  Dead babies.  That's their focus for choosing targets.

All the macho military assholes on all sides there love dead civilian babies. They spray their jockey shorts on it. When it happens to themselves they feel "justified" and when it happens to the other side its "richly deserved."


Wow...I never took you for such a dumbass.
 
2013-05-04 11:01:44 PM  

Tatsuma: That's a farking disgusting assertion.


calm down, tat. not everyone has as big a dose of Jesus/Spirit to ride on as you do. just pray for them.
 
2013-05-04 11:01:49 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Unless you're a woman not being escorted by a family member, I guess.


Yeah, again complete bullshiat that has nothing to do with reality.
 
2013-05-04 11:02:02 PM  

Tatsuma: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What does Syria have to gain by giving missiles to Hezbollah?

... you do realize that they've been doing that for nearly 30 years, right?


So then why isn't Hezbollah using them instead of rockets?
 
2013-05-04 11:02:37 PM  

Stone Meadow: Wow...I never took you for such a dumbass.


nah ur just being trolled. soma is actually cool.
 
2013-05-04 11:03:00 PM  

Tommy Moo: You're on your own, Israel. Don't you dare expect that you can throw a few rocks to provoke a full scale invasion, and that the United States will then step in and fight your war for you.


I think you've got that backwards, sport. Israel is doing this on our behalf.
 
2013-05-04 11:03:18 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: I suppose our danger threshold is very different. There's no danger for me, but for my son? Oh hell no. I cringe when he crosses the street.


I can understand, but yeah I'm just saying: Israel is safer for your son than even crossing the street. Just come and visit with him! Seriously, I'll even meet up with you, we'll drink a few beers and I'll show you around

utah dude: calm down, tat. not everyone has as big a dose of Jesus/Spirit to ride on as you do. just pray for them.


Being evangelical and all, I sure ride high
 
2013-05-04 11:03:31 PM  
narwhaler.com
 
2013-05-04 11:03:38 PM  
Obama: "if Syria uses chemical weapons, we're going to fark their shiat up"

Breaking news: Syria has used chemical weapons.

Obama: "look at that duck"
 
2013-05-04 11:04:22 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So then why isn't Hezbollah using them instead of rockets?


Well a lot of them were destroyed by the IDF in the early hours of the conflict, because we keep track of that shiat.
 
2013-05-04 11:04:24 PM  

Tatsuma: Obama came out and said Israel was completely justified to do what it did, and had every right to keep on doing so. So the only people complaining about this are basically the far-Left fringe.


I thought you weren't supposed to troll on the Sabbath.

mayIFark: So, let me get this straight, Hamas shoots rockets at random targets in Israel - Terrorism (Agreed).
Israel shoots even more powerful stuff at random targets all over the middle east - Not Terrorism (What the fark?)


Say what you will about Israel escalating the situation, they don't exactly hit random targets.

mayIFark: So, according to you, if Hamas fires on a Israeli arms depot, that is fine?


Honestly, to me?  Yes, it would.  Because those are legitimate military targets.  I'd tolerate / understand Hamas/PLO/Hezbollah a LOT more if they did that.  If they restricted their attacks to military and industrial/infrastructure, it would change their attacks at least from one of terrorism to one of guerrilla / irregular war fare.
 
2013-05-04 11:05:32 PM  
Jesus only dropped the f-bomb when he was cleaning out the temple.
 
2013-05-04 11:06:30 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: mayIFark: BravadoGT: mayIFark: BravadoGT: mayIFark: So, let me get this straight, Hamas shoots rockets at random targets in Israel - Terrorism (Agreed).
Israel shoots even more powerful stuff at random targets all over the middle east - Not Terrorism (What the fark?)

that wasn't a "random target." It wasn't a school or a pizzeria; it was a missile factory.  Meant to be fired at them.  There is a big difference.

So, according to you, if Hamas fires on a Israeli arms depot, that is fine?

it'd be better.  But they never do that.  They want lots of civilian blood.  Dead babies.  That's their focus for choosing targets.

Yet, more civilians are killed each year (100x or so) by Isrealis than by Hamas. Funny how that works.

And Israel never hit Hospital before, or was there arms too (well, some amputees do have arms left, or just one arm left).

Israel is a sovereign nation with trained soldiers, Hamas is a terrorist organization.  Israel doesn't station military facilities right next to, or inside of, schools and hospitals, Hamas does.  Without an internationally recognized military force Hamas terrorists are by default civilians.


Same action, as you just said yourself, yet different label. That was my original question.
 
2013-05-04 11:06:33 PM  
Elegy

mayIFark: Farking Sovereignty, how does it work?

Not all that well around Israel.

Hey Mel, haven't heard from you in awhile. When's your next film coming out?
 
2013-05-04 11:07:10 PM  

Tatsuma: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So then why isn't Hezbollah using them instead of rockets?

Well a lot of them were destroyed by the IDF in the early hours of the conflict, because we keep track of that shiat.


But you said they've been doing it for thirty years, so ostensibly there's a cache somewhere in Palestine. Or is it just like whack a mole, missiles come in, missiles get blowed up?
 
2013-05-04 11:07:22 PM  

Triumph: ravenlore: Aw fark. Y'all don't even want to see Twitter right now.

One dog sees a squirrel and suddenly the whole neighborhood's barking.


Apt comparison, that.
 
2013-05-04 11:07:50 PM  

utah dude: Jesus only dropped the f-bomb when he was cleaning out the temple.


If he'd been the actual son of G-d (not that there is such a thing literally, ch"vs), he might have remembered that, oh you know, G-d himself ordered what was happening in the Temple.
 
2013-05-04 11:07:56 PM  
Israel is simply preempting some movement of weapons into Lebanon by destroying them before they can be distributed.  By hitting them in an ammo dump, they are minimizing civilian casualties by confining the explosion to military personel and combatants.  Otherwise, they have to attack the targets on the road where innocent civilians could be put at risk.  Better to do one big attack and remove the materials all at once than stage lots of little attacks as they move through the countryside and put civilians at risk.
 
2013-05-04 11:08:29 PM  

Tatsuma: Yeah those were farking huge explosions


Israel said "We were actually aiming for the Iranian nuke factory, but our bomb fell just a little short. Our bad."
 
2013-05-04 11:08:41 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: /Seriously, cant they stop throwing out ackbars? It's getting a bit dated.


That was the equivalent of "Oh my god" in that case.
 
2013-05-04 11:09:50 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: But you said they've been doing it for thirty years, so ostensibly there's a cache somewhere in Palestine. Or is it just like whack a mole, missiles come in, missiles get blowed up?


Hizbullah is operating out of Lebanon. And yes, it's a lot like whack a mole, very often you'll hear about 'mysterious explosions' in Lebanon where a lot of shiat blew up in depots and factories and everyone plays coy about it.

Oh and Iran has been sending tons of weapon to Hamas through both Syria and Sudan as well, usually we just destroy those before they reach Gaza or even Egypt (from where they cross in)
 
2013-05-04 11:10:23 PM  

Tatsuma: Somacandra: All the macho military assholes on all sides there love dead civilian babies. They spray their jockey shorts on it. When it happens to themselves they feel "justified" and when it happens to the other side its "richly deserved."

This is bullshiat, you don't ever see Israelis dancing in the street and distributing sweets where there are news that children have been killed.

That's a farking disgusting assertion.


Hmm, I seem to recall a certain Israeli farker responding to the deaths of a planeload of civilians with this image...


www.gambooge.net
 
2013-05-04 11:13:01 PM  

mayIFark: TuteTibiImperes: mayIFark: BravadoGT: mayIFark: BravadoGT: mayIFark: So, let me get this straight, Hamas shoots rockets at random targets in Israel - Terrorism (Agreed).
Israel shoots even more powerful stuff at random targets all over the middle east - Not Terrorism (What the fark?)

that wasn't a "random target." It wasn't a school or a pizzeria; it was a missile factory.  Meant to be fired at them.  There is a big difference.

So, according to you, if Hamas fires on a Israeli arms depot, that is fine?

it'd be better.  But they never do that.  They want lots of civilian blood.  Dead babies.  That's their focus for choosing targets.

Yet, more civilians are killed each year (100x or so) by Isrealis than by Hamas. Funny how that works.

And Israel never hit Hospital before, or was there arms too (well, some amputees do have arms left, or just one arm left).

Israel is a sovereign nation with trained soldiers, Hamas is a terrorist organization.  Israel doesn't station military facilities right next to, or inside of, schools and hospitals, Hamas does.  Without an internationally recognized military force Hamas terrorists are by default civilians.

Same action, as you just said yourself, yet different label. That was my original question.


That isn't what I said at all.  Hamas launches attacks from hospitals and schools, making those areas targets.

Israel is a real nation, Palestine is not.  Israel is happy to grant citizenship to Muslims and Arabs - the Palestinians are free to simply become Israeli.  They can still practice their religion in peace, and they would be able to vote and contribute in the political system just as the Jewish citizens of Israel do.  Instead they choose to continue living on Israeli land and engage in terroristic violence.
 
2013-05-04 11:13:06 PM  

utah dude: i know i'm supposed to support israel as a mormon chrisitian whatever and what not but seriously i wish israel would just put the guns down and move to some remote part of canada.


I'll write in Alaska.
 
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