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2013-05-04 04:50:04 PM
"Advance Close-Range Gunfighting,"

Yeah, shooting from the hip and missing is pretty advanced.
 
2013-05-04 09:01:24 PM
But I'm sure Fark will be able to explain how this was the cop's fault.
 
2013-05-04 09:37:28 PM

vygramul: "Advance Close-Range Gunfighting,"

Yeah, shooting from the hip and missing is pretty advanced.


Missing? He hit both cops. Did you see the windshield grouping? This is one of the training scenarios in the academy. Basically, they teach the cadets that they're farked. These two cops were lucky.
 
2013-05-04 09:38:07 PM
Dang, I guess he really did want to commit suicide by cop.
 
2013-05-04 09:39:38 PM
Suicide by cop.
 
2013-05-04 09:59:10 PM
If this isn't proof that people named "James" are dangerous and should be banned, I don't know what is.
 
2013-05-04 10:01:36 PM
False flag operation, this guy was a liberal plant trying to get people to think that semi-auto rifles and large capacity magazines need to be banned. The liberal main msm media are in on it, that's why they were willing to report that he died even though he didn't.  That's also why they stopped the video when they did, just moments later they guy tossed the rifle and laid down on the ground to surrender. He's currently in a holding cell at a undisclosed fema camp.
 
2013-05-04 11:15:18 PM

Notabunny: vygramul: "Advance Close-Range Gunfighting,"

Yeah, shooting from the hip and missing is pretty advanced.

Missing? He hit both cops. Did you see the windshield grouping? This is one of the training scenarios in the academy. Basically, they teach the cadets that they're farked. These two cops were lucky.


2/33 is under 10% accuracy. The cops hit him, what, with 5 rounds? 6? Out of 29? Sounds like the cops were a little more advanced.

And we don't actually see what the grouping is. In the end, he shot from the hip. Find an "advanced" instructor who says to do that.
 
2013-05-04 11:21:35 PM

vygramul: Notabunny: vygramul: "Advance Close-Range Gunfighting,"

Yeah, shooting from the hip and missing is pretty advanced.

Missing? He hit both cops. Did you see the windshield grouping? This is one of the training scenarios in the academy. Basically, they teach the cadets that they're farked. These two cops were lucky.

2/33 is under 10% accuracy. The cops hit him, what, with 5 rounds? 6? Out of 29? Sounds like the cops were a little more advanced.

And we don't actually see what the grouping is. In the end, he shot from the hip. Find an "advanced" instructor who says to do that.


I had no idea that the hip was so far up on the human body. It actually looked like the shoulder to me. Then again, I'm not that noted anatomist Carolyn McCarthy, who knows all about shoulder things that go up and spray-firing from the hip.
 
2013-05-04 11:27:40 PM
What do American cops think of gun ownership laws?
 
2013-05-04 11:30:44 PM
was it a glock? or the high powered ak-57?

/
 
2013-05-04 11:31:46 PM
At the point the video froze when Gilkerson appears on his knees and wounded from 0:50 to 1:02, I count 17 rounds fired that seem to come from the same weapon since they sound as though they were fired at very regular intervals (like a hammer hitting a nail.)
 
2013-05-04 11:32:20 PM

Protip:  if you're carrying "multiple loaded magazines and loads of ammunition, ski masks and gloves, military-style ammo cans, a scoped .22 caliber rifle, instructional DVDs and books such as "Kitchen Approved Plastic Explosives," "Advance Close-Range Gunfighting," Homemade Detonators" and others", as TFA says this rocket scientist did,

STOP AT THE FARKING STOP SIGN.
 
2013-05-04 11:32:26 PM
From the comments:

DawnMarieLashuaI find it interesting and carefully CONTRIVED that local news channels are reporting about something that happened March 10th this weekend. They barely mention that it happened, and very quickly, that it happene on March 10th. It almost souds as though it happened today. 
 
Interesting, the "footage is released" the same weekend the NRA is having their annual national convention. Hmmmmmm?

Could the police have deliberately timed this to embarrass the NRA? DAMN YOU POLICE
 
2013-05-04 11:32:29 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: And we don't actually see what the grouping is. In the end, he shot from the hip. Find an "advanced" instructor who says to do that.

I had no idea that the hip was so far up on the human body. It actually looked like the shoulder to me. Then again, I'm not that noted anatomist Carolyn McCarthy, who knows all about shoulder things that go up and spray-firing from the hip.


Yup, looked like shooting from the shoulder for most of it.
 
2013-05-04 11:33:11 PM
Whatshisname
What do American cops think of gun ownership laws?

They dont like armed civilians, which is exactly why our founding fathers said we should be armed.
 
2013-05-04 11:33:55 PM

Triumph: Suicide by cop.


What tipped you off?  Was it the "KILL ME! KILL ME!"?
 
2013-05-04 11:33:58 PM
Ugh. His yells of "KILL ME!"...
That's far worse than any gore being shown.
The anguish he must have felt in the time before this event must have been terrible.

*sigh* Another avoidable tragedy.
How many times must things like this happen before this country confronts the lack of concern for mental health?


/fark you, Reagan.
 
2013-05-04 11:34:05 PM
He looks like the the average responsible NRA member to me.
 
2013-05-04 11:34:13 PM
 
2013-05-04 11:34:24 PM
He got his wish and the tax payers will save the cost of three squares for the next 30 years.  Win-win.
 
2013-05-04 11:34:27 PM

vygramul: Notabunny: vygramul: "Advance Close-Range Gunfighting,"

2/33 is under 10% accuracy. The cops hit him, what, with 5 rounds? 6? Out of 29? Sounds like the cops were a little more advanced.


The cops had cover and training, that dude ended up on his knees, stationary, asking to be killed. I'm pretty sure even I could put a round or two on that target.
 
2013-05-04 11:34:37 PM
Make that "the farking red light."  The intersection has one.
 
2013-05-04 11:35:22 PM
I have to problem with people wanting to kill themselves.  Hell, I do not have a problem with people actually doing it.  But, suicide by cop just pisses me off.  Why can these people not do the decent thing and go off into the woods and blow their brains out?  At least that way some wild animals and insects will get a few meals out of it.
 
2013-05-04 11:35:52 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Triumph: Suicide by cop.

What tipped you off?  Was it the "KILL ME! KILL ME!"?


Well, apparently subby needed help.
 
2013-05-04 11:36:13 PM
* I have no problem....
 
2013-05-04 11:37:34 PM

Amos Quito: If this isn't proof that people named "James" are dangerous and should be banned, I don't know what is.


Well, apparently Scary Mooselimbs all need to be rounded up and deported because a couple of pressure cookers went kablooey.
 
2013-05-04 11:39:47 PM

whatshisname: What do American cops think of gun ownership laws?


The several cops I talked to about that were all for it. I was buying a little old Chief's Special for my girlfriend last year.  A cop who was near the register noticed it, commented on what a beautiful gun it was, and we ended up chatting about this very thing for a while.  He volunteered his opinion that he wished everyone decent had a gun.  Interesting guy to talk to.  To help ease my girlfriend's legality apprehensiveness, he allowed me a photo of him holding her newly bought .38 carefully in his hand.  I thought that was a nice way to illustrate to her that it's not a terrible, unlawful thing to own a gun.  And another thing that was interesting about that exchange was there I was, buying a gun for someone else, and everybody in the store, including the Fuzz knew that.
 
2013-05-04 11:39:51 PM

whatshisname: What do American cops think of gun ownership laws?


Opinions vary, though I have observed that police officers in states that do not substantially restrict civilian firearm ownership generally do not advocate increasing restrictions, while police officers in states that substantially restrict civilian firearm ownership often oppose expanding firearm liberties such as "shall-issue" based concealed weapons permit systems. Interestingly, several police chiefs who opposed implementation of a "shall-issue" based concealed weapons permit system later changed their opinions (and acknowledged their previously held opposition to be misguided) following the implementation of the system.
 
2013-05-04 11:39:57 PM
There's a killer on the road...

His mind is squirming like a toad...
 
2013-05-04 11:40:04 PM

vygramul: Notabunny: vygramul: "Advance Close-Range Gunfighting,"

Yeah, shooting from the hip and missing is pretty advanced.

Missing? He hit both cops. Did you see the windshield grouping? This is one of the training scenarios in the academy. Basically, they teach the cadets that they're farked. These two cops were lucky.

2/33 is under 10% accuracy. The cops hit him, what, with 5 rounds? 6? Out of 29? Sounds like the cops were a little more advanced.

And we don't actually see what the grouping is. In the end, he shot from the hip. Find an "advanced" instructor who says to do that.


Actually, the cops hit him 14 times.
 
2013-05-04 11:40:23 PM
I'd say said driver needs tecnical support.
 
2013-05-04 11:40:35 PM

whatshisname: What do American cops think of gun ownership laws?


The NY Sheriff's Association has some issues with the most contentious parts of the NY SAFE Act.

• Restriction on FOIL requests about pistol permit holders. By granting citizens the option of having their names and addresses withheld from public disclosure, the new law does provide a mechanism to allow people to decide for themselves whether their personal information should be accessible to the public. We believe, however, that no one should have to explain why their personal information should remain confidential. A better procedure, we believe, is simply to exempt all this personal information from FOIL disclosure.

• Requirement of NICS checks for private sales (except between immediate family). We believe that this will ensure that responsible citizens will still be able to obtain legal firearms through private transactions, with the added assurance that private buyers are approved by the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System. We remain concerned that this provision will be very difficult to enforce and will likely only affect law abiding citizens.

•Assault weapon ban and definition of assault weapons. We believe that the new definition of assault weapons is too broad, and prevents the possession of many weapons that are legitimately used for hunting, target shooting and self defense. Classifying firearms as assault weapons because of one arbitrary feature effectively deprives people the right to possess firearms which have never before been designated as assault weapons. We are convinced that only law abiding gun owners will be affected by these new provisions, while criminals will still have and use whatever weapons they want.

• Reduction of ammunition magazine capacity. The new law enacts reductions in the maximum capacity of gun magazines. We believe based on our years of law enforcement experience that this will not reduce gun violence. The new law will unfairly limit the ability of law‐abiding citizens to purchase firearms in New York. It bears repeating that it is our belief that the reduction of magazine capacity will not make New Yorkers or our communities safer.

•Method of bill passage. It is the view of the Sheriffs' Association that anytime government decides it is necessary or desirable to test the boundaries of a constitutional right that it should only be done with caution and with great respect for those constitutional boundaries. Further, it should only be done if the benefit to be gained is so great and certain that it far outweighs the damage done by the constriction of individual liberty. While many of the provisions of the new law have surface appeal, it is far from certain that all, or even many, of them will have any significant effect in reducing gun violence, which is the presumed goal of all of us. Unfortunately the process used in adoption of this act did not permit the mature development of the arguments on either side of the debate, and thus many of the stakeholders in this important issue are left feeling ignored by their government. Even those thrilled with the passage of this legislation should be concerned about the process used to secure its passage, for the next time they may find themselves the victim of that same process. Fortunately, the Governor has shown himself open to working with interested parties to address some of the problems that arose due to the hasty enactment of this law. We will work with the Governor and the Legislature on these issues.

http://www.nysheriffs.org/articles/sheriffs%E2%80%99-response-ny-saf e- act
 
2013-05-04 11:41:20 PM

Mock26: I have to problem with people wanting to kill themselves.  Hell, I do not have a problem with people actually doing it.  But, suicide by cop just pisses me off.  Why can these people not do the decent thing and go off into the woods and blow their brains out?  At least that way some wild animals and insects will get a few meals out of it.


The police mortician has a job to do now.  This man is just a job creator, and is therefore an example to be followed by all.
 
2013-05-04 11:41:34 PM

Notabunny: Did you see the windshield grouping?


Holy crap on that grouping. It brings up the "fake" and "false flag" ideas.
 
2013-05-04 11:42:10 PM
Was anyone else entertained by the reaction of the white car in the opposite lane?

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2013-05-04 11:42:45 PM
Still pretty tame compared to the search for "russian dash cam footage". Apparently folks are pretty cavalier about casually walking up and shooting at people for traffic infractions there..
 
2013-05-04 11:43:20 PM

thesloppy: vygramul: Notabunny: vygramul: "Advance Close-Range Gunfighting,"

2/33 is under 10% accuracy. The cops hit him, what, with 5 rounds? 6? Out of 29? Sounds like the cops were a little more advanced.

The cops had cover and training, that dude ended up on his knees, stationary, asking to be killed. I'm pretty sure even I could put a round or two on that target.


Posting from the safety of your Mom's basement really makes everything seem so easy, doesn't it?
 
2013-05-04 11:47:29 PM
God-is-a-Taco

/fark you, Reagan.

8 Years (several of which with Democrat majorities in both House and Senate)
ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com
Approaching 6 Years
4.bp.blogspot.com

bu bu but reagan.... LOL you bats are hilarious.
 
2013-05-04 11:47:47 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: was it a glock? or the high powered ak-57?

/


According to TFA, it was "an AK-47-style rifle".
 
2013-05-04 11:48:00 PM

hubiestubert: Dang, I guess he really did want to commit suicide by cop.


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Uhhhh, yup.
 
2013-05-04 11:48:38 PM
So, when is Fox News gonna give him his own showwwwwwwnevermind he's dead.
 
2013-05-04 11:49:25 PM
Waits patiently for Nimrods to blame video games for this

/I've said it once, I've said it before, America, your crazies and gun boner nuts are farking shiat up for the rest of us sane folk
 
2013-05-04 11:49:33 PM
 
2013-05-04 11:50:31 PM
The rifle was identified by the police as an SKS semi-automatic, no mention of country of origin.
 
2013-05-04 11:50:50 PM

God-is-a-Taco: Ugh. His yells of "KILL ME!"...
That's far worse than any gore being shown.
The anguish he must have felt in the time before this event must have been terrible.


Well, who's fault is that? Were the cops supposed to stand still and be easier targets?
 
2013-05-04 11:51:58 PM
I did enjoy watching the reactions of the other passing cars.  Especially that last white one that all "aww hell no", and throws it in to reverse.
 
2013-05-04 11:53:36 PM

Arkanaut: What_Would_Jimi_Do: was it a glock? or the high powered ak-57?

/

According to TFA, it was "an AK-47-style rifle".


ak-57, that was the....oh nevermind
 
2013-05-04 11:54:45 PM

Captain Dan: Was anyone else entertained by the reaction of the white car in the opposite lane?

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Damn you for making me laugh so hard at this.
 
2013-05-04 11:56:20 PM

OnlyM3: God-is-a-Taco

/fark you, Reagan.
8 Years (several of which with Democrat majorities in both House and Senate)
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Approaching 6 Years
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bu bu but reagan.... LOL you bats are hilarious.


Is there any reason in particular that you skipped right over both Bush's?
 
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