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(US Air Force)   So we're finally getting good use out of all of that alien technology from Roswell   (af.mil) divider line 62
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2013-05-04 06:22:37 PM  
What?  We've been using weather balloons for ages.
 
2013-05-04 06:35:46 PM  
Silly Subby, everyone knows that we got anti-gravity technology from the alien spaceship crash in Roswell and thanks to the treaty made in 1952 between President Eisenhower and the Grays, they give us technology in exchange for humans to do convert into food and for genetic experiments.
That's just a puny little scramjet.  The Aurora had that back in the early 1990s.
 
2013-05-04 06:45:20 PM  

eyeq360: Silly Subby, everyone knows that we got anti-gravity technology from the alien spaceship crash in Roswell and thanks to the treaty made in 1952 between President Eisenhower and the Grays, they give us technology in exchange for humans to do convert into food and for genetic experiments.
That's just a puny little scramjet.  The Aurora had that back in the early 1990s.


"Bushwah! Now what's your mission? Are you planning to make some kind of alien-human hybrid?"

"Are you coming onto me?"
 
2013-05-04 06:56:12 PM  
FTA: The cruiser traveled more than 230 nautical miles in just over six minutes

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-04 07:03:21 PM  
I am not as well-educated in hypersonics as I would like but this sounds like an incredible proof-positive accomplishment for flight hardware. Despite the diaper I would need to wear as the flyboy of record I would imagine that is quite the feather in the cap. Kudos to the project.
 
2013-05-04 07:05:23 PM  
Awful nice of them to do all their testing in full view of the public.

It's been said before they only reveal obsolete tech this way
 
2013-05-04 07:06:07 PM  
Unmanned, imagine that.

I trot out this link once in a while, I still don't know if it's credible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaks

/Imagine 3D printing one of those?
 
2013-05-04 07:10:17 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Awful nice of them to do all their testing in full view of the public.

It's been said before they only reveal obsolete tech this way


Which is why they plowed, what, three of them into the Pacific until (yay filterpwnage!) they got it right?
 
2013-05-04 07:14:53 PM  
You've learned how Velcro(TM) works?
 
2013-05-04 07:24:00 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: Awful nice of them to do all their testing in full view of the public.

It's been said before they only reveal obsolete tech this way


You try testing a mach 5 jet in an underground bunker and let us know how that goes.
 
2013-05-04 07:28:11 PM  

eyeq360: That's just a puny little scramjet.  The Aurora had that back in the early 1990s.


This uses hydrocarbon fuel instead of hydrogen. By the way, "Aurora"? No Such Aircraft.
 
2013-05-04 07:30:15 PM  

fusillade762: eyeq360: Silly Subby, everyone knows that we got anti-gravity technology from the alien spaceship crash in Roswell and thanks to the treaty made in 1952 between President Eisenhower and the Grays, they give us technology in exchange for humans to do convert into food and for genetic experiments.
That's just a puny little scramjet.  The Aurora had that back in the early 1990s.

"Bushwah! Now what's your mission? Are you planning to make some kind of alien-human hybrid?"

"Are you coming onto me?"


I'm not hearing a no...
 
2013-05-04 07:35:32 PM  

MrEricSir: You try testing a mach 5 jet in an underground bunker and let us know how that goes.


upload.wikimedia.org

We used to.

Then our computers got better.

Our airplanes didn't.
 
2013-05-04 07:46:12 PM  
My jizz flies faster than that.
 
2013-05-04 07:49:17 PM  

StopLurkListen: eyeq360: That's just a puny little scramjet.  The Aurora had that back in the early 1990s.

This uses hydrocarbon fuel instead of hydrogen. By the way, "Aurora"? No Such Aircraft.


Sure there is...it's called the B-2 Spirit.

bugimus.com
 
2013-05-04 07:59:56 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-04 08:01:47 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

Nothing about increasing airplane's speed.  I am skeptical.  You can't just believe everything on the internet.
 
2013-05-04 08:05:58 PM  
Cool.  Now time to design one that doesn't smash into the ocean.

/no one has any respect for the Indian Ocean
 
2013-05-04 08:08:08 PM  

Cyno01: [i.imgur.com image 400x225]


Shol'va
 
2013-05-04 08:17:59 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Still a while to go before they reach Mach 22.6
 
2013-05-04 08:34:36 PM  

Mantour: [24.media.tumblr.com image 600x834]

Nothing about increasing airplane's speed.  I am skeptical.  You can't just believe everything on the internet.


Looks like those aliens abducted his chin.
 
2013-05-04 08:35:45 PM  

MrEricSir: J. Frank Parnell: Awful nice of them to do all their testing in full view of the public.

It's been said before they only reveal obsolete tech this way

You try testing a mach 5 jet in an underground bunker and let us know how that goes.


"Full view of the public" refers to the press release, not to the flight at 60,000ft over the pacific.

Who the hell's going to see that if there's no press release?
 
2013-05-04 08:49:49 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Cool.  Now time to design one that doesn't smash into the ocean.


fta the vehicle continued to send back telemetry data until it splashed down into the ocean

They said it "splashed down". That sounds so peaceful and survivable. I agree with you. Anything hitting the water at 3,800mph has "smashed" into it.
 
2013-05-04 08:51:45 PM  
To elaborate, the general logic is that anything they reveal to the public and explain is something they're also revealing and explaining to the 'enemy', who can then copy it. So they only do it with technology they have no fear of anyone else using, because they've surpassed it so much.
 
2013-05-04 10:08:59 PM  
traveledmore than 230 nautical miles in just over six minutes

Wait, why would a plane fly in nautical miles?  Some sort of underwater plane to complement our armada of flying boats?
 
2013-05-04 10:22:46 PM  

fatbear: Who the hell's going to see that if there's no press release?


May not see it, but could conceivably hear it thanks to the sonic boom
 
2013-05-04 10:23:31 PM  
Faster than the speed of fark, apparently.
 
2013-05-04 10:59:57 PM  

serial_crusher: traveledmore than 230 nautical miles in just over six minutes

Wait, why would a plane fly in nautical miles?  Some sort of underwater plane to complement our armada of flying boats?


Because perhaps maybe a nautical mile is one minute of arc on a great circle on the Earth, and it simplifies celestial style navigation?
 
2013-05-04 11:52:05 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: To elaborate, the general logic is that anything they reveal to the public and explain is something they're also revealing and explaining to the 'enemy', who can then copy it. So they only do it with technology they have no fear of anyone else using, because they've surpassed it so much.



Well, not exactly... This is not a finished system, or even prototype. This is a technology demonstrator and research mission. All they've revealed here is that they've validated some of the basic theory about hypersonic flight. Now the vehicles they create based off of this research - that's another story. Those will probably be classified and kept secret for a while.
 
2013-05-05 12:21:01 AM  
Can't believe no Speed Racer references.
 
2013-05-05 12:28:44 AM  
Wouldn't aliens have advanced technology?
 
2013-05-05 01:05:21 AM  
www.sfsignal.com
 
2013-05-05 01:25:39 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: serial_crusher: traveledmore than 230 nautical miles in just over six minutes

Wait, why would a plane fly in nautical miles?  Some sort of underwater plane to complement our armada of flying boats?

Because perhaps maybe a nautical mile is one minute of arc on a great circle on the Earth, and it simplifies celestial style navigation?


They flew 20,000 leagues above the sea!
 
2013-05-05 02:19:32 AM  

awalkingecho: I am not as well-educated in hypersonics as I would like but this sounds like an incredible proof-positive accomplishment for flight hardware. Despite the diaper I would need to wear as the flyboy of record I would imagine that is quite the feather in the cap. Kudos to the project.


"Have you ever flown a flying saucer? Afterwards, sex seems trite."
 
2013-05-05 02:22:43 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: To elaborate, the general logic is that anything they reveal to the public and explain is something they're also revealing and explaining to the 'enemy', who can then copy it. So they only do it with technology they have no fear of anyone else using, because they've surpassed it so much.


I've been told that no such major secret could be kept secret because the government is inept in keeping secrets.
 
2013-05-05 02:25:46 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: serial_crusher: traveledmore than 230 nautical miles in just over six minutes

Wait, why would a plane fly in nautical miles?  Some sort of underwater plane to complement our armada of flying boats?

Because perhaps maybe a nautical mile is one minute of arc on a great circle on the Earth, and it simplifies celestial style navigation?


But because the aircraft wasn't on the surface of the Earth while travelling wouldn't it actually have traveled more that 230 nautical miles then since it's arc would have been longer?
 
2013-05-05 02:25:51 AM  
I'm thinking if we were using Alien Tech, we could go much much faster.
 
2013-05-05 02:49:31 AM  
230 nautical miles in 6 minutes = mach 5?

that's roughly 2600 miles an hour.....  isn't mach 5, 3,800 mph?
 
2013-05-05 02:55:55 AM  

toetag: 230 nautical miles in 6 minutes = mach 5?

that's roughly 2600 miles an hour.....  isn't mach 5, 3,800 mph?


Does mach change with altitude? I would assume the speed of sound varies a bit depending on the density of the atmosphere, or for measurement purposes is "mach 1"  the speed of sound at STP, like the "speed of light" is in a vacuum?
 
2013-05-05 03:02:05 AM  

toetag: 230 nautical miles in 6 minutes = mach 5?


that time takes into account acceleration
 
2013-05-05 04:40:51 AM  
What is this for?
 
2013-05-05 05:18:48 AM  

Cyno01: toetag: 230 nautical miles in 6 minutes = mach 5?

that's roughly 2600 miles an hour.....  isn't mach 5, 3,800 mph?

Does mach change with altitude? I would assume the speed of sound varies a bit depending on the density of the atmosphere, or for measurement purposes is "mach 1"  the speed of sound at STP, like the "speed of light" is in a vacuum?


Speed of sound in air varies with the square root of (absolute) temperature.

It's quite cold at 60,000 ft.

Haven't actually checked the math.
 
2013-05-05 07:20:03 AM  
So where is my goddam flying car???
 
2013-05-05 07:42:31 AM  

PartTimeBuddha: What is this for?


making a nuclear type explosion in a far away place without ballistic missles, or actual nukes.
 
2013-05-05 07:43:58 AM  

Macular Degenerate: So where is my goddam flying car???


Ask the Catholic church.  They single-handedly are responsible for setting back technological advances by almost 2000 years.  The ancient Ionians knew the earth was spherical and revolved around the sun 400 years B.C.  Just imagine:  if not for the Christians, Muslims, and their ilk, we would be happily cruising around on our flying cars enjoying unlimited clean fusion energy while carrying on sub-space conversations with our friends on distant planet colonies.  Or whatever else you can imagine happening in 2000 years (based on the 400 B.C. - 1600 A.D. time-frame).

/Yes, I'm bitter because every day I read more new articles about these religious nutcases wanting to repeat history
 
2013-05-05 07:53:20 AM  
Has the top speed for the SR-71 ever been declassified? The last time I looked, the top speed was still classified and the military would only admit to mach 3.5 +
 
2013-05-05 09:41:40 AM  
all that Free Socialist tax money does come in handy.
 
2013-05-05 10:18:05 AM  

Notabunny: AliceBToklasLives: Cool.  Now time to design one that doesn't smash into the ocean.

fta the vehicle continued to send back telemetry data until it splashed down into the ocean

They said it "splashed down". That sounds so peaceful and survivable. I agree with you. Anything hitting the water at 3,800mph has "smashed" into it.


Quote the next few words...

TFA: After exhausting its 240-second fuel supply, the vehicle continued to send back telemetry data until it splashed down into the ocean and was destroyed as designed.
 
2013-05-05 10:32:43 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-05 10:52:55 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I've been told that no such major secret could be kept secret because the government is inept in keeping secrets.


It's not that the government isn't good at keeping secrets, they are.  It's that at some point a secret aircraft has to fly somewhere once its up and cruising you're fine take off and landing?    Aurora does exist for example.  Seriously it exists  there are pictures of it and I'm not a conspiracy nut.   It's described as a black flying triangle that is utterly un-aerodynamic and has three bright white lights on its belly at night.

Ever seen the old F-117A Nighthawk perform a night landing?  It's an ungainly black triangle with three brilliant white lights on its belly... from the landing gear.  That's Aurora.  Think about it, the F-117A looks nothing like any conventional aircraft, if all you knew were non-flyby wire aircraft and that thing lumbers in to the sky in the 70's then the more imaginative people will think it's an 'alien spaceship'.

I'm sure when the F-22 and YF-23 were being put through their paces in secret a new type of UFO appeared in the conspiracies.
 
2013-05-05 11:30:07 AM  

Vaneshi: Aurora does exist for example. Seriously it exists there are pictures of it and I'm not a conspiracy nut. It's described as a black flying triangle that is utterly un-aerodynamic and has three bright white lights on its belly at night.


Huh, go figure, you're a lunatic. Who would have guessed? Do we also have warp drives but the government is keeping it secret?
 
2013-05-05 11:48:54 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Vaneshi: Aurora does exist for example. Seriously it exists there are pictures of it and I'm not a conspiracy nut. It's described as a black flying triangle that is utterly un-aerodynamic and has three bright white lights on its belly at night.

Huh, go figure, you're a lunatic. Who would have guessed? Do we also have warp drives but the government is keeping it secret?


And once again we violently agree, QA. "Aurora" was the initial code name for the advanced technology bomber that became the B-2 Spirit. (Source)

Sorry, conspiracy fans...no hypersonic single-stage-to-orbit magic aircraft yet.
 
2013-05-05 11:59:42 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x104]

Still a while to go before they reach Mach 22.6


Ahem...


images.nationalgeographic.com
 
2013-05-05 01:14:44 PM  

Stone Meadow: Quantum Apostrophe: Vaneshi: Aurora does exist for example. Seriously it exists there are pictures of it and I'm not a conspiracy nut. It's described as a black flying triangle that is utterly un-aerodynamic and has three bright white lights on its belly at night.

Huh, go figure, you're a lunatic. Who would have guessed? Do we also have warp drives but the government is keeping it secret?

And once again we violently agree, QA. "Aurora" was the initial code name for the advanced technology bomber that became the B-2 Spirit. (Source)

Sorry, conspiracy fans...no hypersonic single-stage-to-orbit magic aircraft yet.


The latest picture of Vaneshi...

strategicoptimalsolutions.com
Just needs the secret rocket fuel from under the neighbor's kitchen sink.

italie: Vlad_the_Inaner: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x104]

Still a while to go before they reach Mach 22.6

Ahem...


[images.nationalgeographic.com image 600x450]


Ahem....

inhabitat.com
 
2013-05-05 02:57:04 PM  

Macular Degenerate: So where is my goddam flying car???


Like this?

25.media.tumblr.com

Or you thinking more like this?

callumvstheweb.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-05 04:33:21 PM  

opiumpoopy: Cyno01: toetag: 230 nautical miles in 6 minutes = mach 5?

that's roughly 2600 miles an hour.....  isn't mach 5, 3,800 mph?

Does mach change with altitude? I would assume the speed of sound varies a bit depending on the density of the atmosphere, or for measurement purposes is "mach 1"  the speed of sound at STP, like the "speed of light" is in a vacuum?

Speed of sound in air varies with the square root of (absolute) temperature.

It's quite cold at 60,000 ft.

Haven't actually checked the math.


At 60,000 feet, the speed of sound is 660 mph.  Mach 5.1 would be 3,367 mph.
 
2013-05-05 04:39:50 PM  
why is the steeing wheel on the wrong side?
 
2013-05-05 05:04:01 PM  

Macular Degenerate: So where is my goddam flying car???


It is owned by someone who can afford it.
 
2013-05-05 05:55:50 PM  

Cyno01:


I think that might be a cylon.
 
2013-05-05 08:17:12 PM  

Macular Degenerate: So where is my goddam flying car???



Been around for years.resources1.news.com.au

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-05 11:23:31 PM  

Mister Peejay: Notabunny: AliceBToklasLives: Cool.  Now time to design one that doesn't smash into the ocean.

fta the vehicle continued to send back telemetry data until it splashed down into the ocean

They said it "splashed down". That sounds so peaceful and survivable. I agree with you. Anything hitting the water at 3,800mph has "smashed" into it.

Quote the next few words...

TFA: After exhausting its 240-second fuel supply, the vehicle continued to send back telemetry data until it splashed down into the ocean and was destroyed as designed.


I don't think you have to design something to be destroyed when it crashes going 3,800mph. The birdhouse I made when I was 8 would certainly be destroyed if it smashed into the ocean at 3,800mph, but I wouldn't say that I designed it to do that. I just didn't design it NOT to do that.
 
2013-05-06 12:15:31 AM  
Quantum Apostrophe:

italie: Vlad_the_Inaner: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x104]

Still a while to go before they reach Mach 22.6

Ahem...


[images.nationalgeographic.com image 600x450]

Ahem....

[inhabitat.com image 537x403]



Now that is just cold....

//touche
 
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