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2013-05-04 01:50:48 PM  
Somehow in the list of things wrong with the world, a high-school athlete pointing to the sky in front of the judges just doesn't seem all that bad.

Depending on which finger he pointed with...
 
2013-05-04 01:54:00 PM  
It's called unsportsmanlike conduct, you don't act like an idiot on the field. You can make an idiot of yourself afterwards.
 
2013-05-04 02:38:04 PM  
DQ: That's what I like about Texas
 
2013-05-04 02:53:36 PM  
Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.
 
2013-05-04 02:55:15 PM  
Man, that's a really low threshold for "excessive".

Subby, what school prohibits religious expression by the individual student?
 
2013-05-04 03:03:34 PM  
I don't understand why it's so hard simply to participate in an athletic event and leave it at that.

Why do people feel the need to dance?  Or, point at the sky?  Or, helicopter with their penis?

Okay, the last one I can sort of understand...but, the others?  WTF?
 
2013-05-04 03:35:32 PM  
Quite sure that the sky pointing is not humble and Jesus-like. Praising God as you finish is taunting everyone else by saying God favored you and not them. It's an insult, regardless of the other runner's faiths.

The refs couldn't have been punishing him for being a Christian because he wasn't being one.
 
2013-05-04 03:35:59 PM  
If the rules say "no dancing around," you can't dance around.  Being very fond of Jesus does not exempt you from the rules.  This isn't prison; you don't get special privileges just for being religious.
 
2013-05-04 03:38:25 PM  
Its showboating, and its been against the rules in high school and college forever.  Argue the rule all you want, but its the rule.
 
2013-05-04 03:49:49 PM  
dairy queened?  just for doin that?? impossible
 
2013-05-04 03:56:33 PM  

downstairs: Its showboating, and its been against the rules in high school and college forever.  Argue the rule all you want, but its the rule.


This. When you have to make a rule or law, you don't make it vague or tread in a proverbial grey area. Either it is all in or all out.

Stupid kid is stupid. Cross the line, small wave to the crowd.

Don't thank your god, she didn't do anything.
 
2013-05-04 04:01:41 PM  
And the Lone State hasn't earned its own Fark tag yet because.......?
 
2013-05-04 04:07:53 PM  
You guys do realize that TFA ha the school specifically saying it wasn't because of a religious gesture but because he was disrespectful to officials, right?
 
2013-05-04 04:13:22 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: You guys do realize that TFA ha the school specifically saying it wasn't because of a religious gesture but because he was disrespectful to officials, right?


This article only mentions that he was disrespectful, but doesn't specify what said disrespectful gesture was. If the finger-pointing is all it was, then that's just stupid.
 
2013-05-04 04:20:48 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: You guys do realize that TFA ha the school specifically saying it wasn't because of a religious gesture but because he was disrespectful to officials, right?


Yeah, it was "excessive celebration."  The fact that the "celebration" had a religious theme was beside the point.  Any unsportsmanlike conduct would be treated the same way.
 
2013-05-04 04:29:40 PM  

FloydA: Benevolent Misanthrope: You guys do realize that TFA ha the school specifically saying it wasn't because of a religious gesture but because he was disrespectful to officials, right?

Yeah, it was "excessive celebration."  The fact that the "celebration" had a religious theme was beside the point.  Any unsportsmanlike conduct would be treated the same way.


But, religious expression deserves special dispensation because Jesus.
 
2013-05-04 04:29:46 PM  
It would have been helpful if the article actually stated what he was doing that was disrespectful to the officials. Just pointing the sky doesn't seem so bad.
 
2013-05-04 04:32:16 PM  
Why disqualify the entire team for one member's conduct? This is the part that makes very little sense.
 
2013-05-04 04:34:23 PM  

eraser8: FloydA: Benevolent Misanthrope: You guys do realize that TFA ha the school specifically saying it wasn't because of a religious gesture but because he was disrespectful to officials, right?

Yeah, it was "excessive celebration."  The fact that the "celebration" had a religious theme was beside the point.  Any unsportsmanlike conduct would be treated the same way.

But, religious expression deserves special dispensation because Jesus.


I will say, I am shocked that this wasn't the outcome, considering it's Texas.
 
2013-05-04 04:36:51 PM  
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2013-05-04 04:38:57 PM  

Apos: Why disqualify the entire team for one member's conduct? This is the part that makes very little sense.


He was the anchor in the 4X100 relay.  Without all four positions, there is no team.
 
2013-05-04 04:46:37 PM  

FloydA: Apos: Why disqualify the entire team for one member's conduct? This is the part that makes very little sense.

He was the anchor in the 4X100 relay.  Without all four positions, there is no team.


Point taken, but surely they could have used an alternate or two? Better that they be allowed to go on with their second best "anchor" than....this. This is grossly unfair.
 
2013-05-04 04:55:35 PM  

Apos: FloydA: Apos: Why disqualify the entire team for one member's conduct? This is the part that makes very little sense.

He was the anchor in the 4X100 relay.  Without all four positions, there is no team.

Point taken, but surely they could have used an alternate or two? Better that they be allowed to go on with their second best "anchor" than....this. This is grossly unfair.


He did it at the end of the race.... the team running that race was DQ'd. It's not that the whole school team was DQ'd from the entire track meet -- just the one race, as if they'd run out of the lines or missed a baton handoff.
 
2013-05-04 04:57:06 PM  
Apos:

Point taken, but surely they could have used an alternate or two? Better that they be allowed to go on with their second best "anchor" than....this. This is grossly unfair.

The race was over.  In order to replace this one runner, they would have to re-stage the event, and giving the DQ'd kid's team a fresh anchor while the other teams were re-running the same 4 guys who had just exhausted themselves doesn't really seem fair.

I suspect that if this kid was caught goofing around before the race, they would have done exactly that - the coach would have yanked him and put in someone else.  Once the race is over, not much can be done.
 
2013-05-04 05:05:38 PM  

Donnchadha: Apos: FloydA: Apos: Why disqualify the entire team for one member's conduct? This is the part that makes very little sense.

He was the anchor in the 4X100 relay.  Without all four positions, there is no team.

Point taken, but surely they could have used an alternate or two? Better that they be allowed to go on with their second best "anchor" than....this. This is grossly unfair.

He did it at the end of the race.... the team running that race was DQ'd. It's not that the whole school team was DQ'd from the entire track meet -- just the one race, as if they'd run out of the lines or missed a baton handoff.



Ahhhh.....

FloydA: Apos:

Point taken, but surely they could have used an alternate or two? Better that they be allowed to go on with their second best "anchor" than....this. This is grossly unfair.

The race was over.  In order to replace this one runner, they would have to re-stage the event, and giving the DQ'd kid's team a fresh anchor while the other teams were re-running the same 4 guys who had just exhausted themselves doesn't really seem fair.

I suspect that if this kid was caught goofing around before the race, they would have done exactly that - the coach would have yanked him and put in someone else.  Once the race is over, not much can be done.


.......Gotcha.
 
2013-05-04 05:32:59 PM  

eraser8: Or, helicopter with their penis?


What athletic events are YOU going to?
 
2013-05-04 05:34:29 PM  

EatenTheSun: Subby, what school prohibits religious expression by the individual student?


Private Christian schools.
 
2013-05-04 05:35:09 PM  
Without wading into the whole oh so delightful atheism/religion farkfest once again, my guess is that 99% of the story has nothing to do with what was reported.

I'm guessing that he'd severely pissed off the officials in some other fashion, or someone else on his team had, or someone at some point came to that race bound and determined to stir up some shiat one way or another, and this is the end result.

Just a guess, but there's a lot of psychodrama at any youth athletic event, most of it in the heads of people NOT competing.
 
2013-05-04 05:37:50 PM  
I'm ok with this.
 
2013-05-04 05:37:52 PM  
School policy has nothing to do with it. State athletic policy against celebrating has everything to do with it.
 
2013-05-04 05:38:56 PM  

iheartscotch: School policy has nothing to do with it. State athletic policy against celebrating has everything to do with it.


wat he said.
 
2013-05-04 05:40:20 PM  

mactobain: DQ: That's what I like about Texas


This.
 
2013-05-04 05:41:39 PM  
Was he furthering the quest to find his missing friend Kyle? You know, about this tall?
 
2013-05-04 05:41:46 PM  
This sounds like an over-done policy regarding celebration, not religious expression.

However, I know what I'm going to hear at work on Monday from the resident Fox News fan.
 
2013-05-04 05:41:49 PM  

Apos: Why disqualify the entire team for one member's conduct? This is the part that makes very little sense.


Why decimate an entire legion because one soldier was too hungover to fight? So you can be sure it won't happen again.
 
2013-05-04 05:44:39 PM  

eraser8: Why do people feel the need to dance? Or, point at the sky? Or, helicopter with their penis?


Hey, judge all you want, but that was the BEST. SPRING COTILLION. EVER.
 
2013-05-04 05:44:45 PM  
From the article:
"behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion"
We have FARK Athiests judging HS track meets now?
 
2013-05-04 05:47:10 PM  
He wasn't disqualified for religious demonstration.   The argument is being made that he should be excused because it was religious.  I really do not have an opinion  about that.   I do not think it matters why he raised his arms.

I want to know when raising your hands / arms at the end of a race became 'excessive celebration'?    How sensitive does the losing team have to be to be intimidated by the raising of arms?    Have we, as a society become such a bunch of complete wusses that we can be so easily offended?     And I have always wanted to ask,  ' when did it become a 'right' to not be offended.   If you are offended so easily,  stay home.

If watching the winner of a race raise his arms puts you off, maybe competing in athletics isn't your thing?
 
2013-05-04 05:47:19 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.


Came here to say that.

But this is the media, which generates more clicks: "Disqualified for thanking god" or "Disqualified for being an asshole"?
 
2013-05-04 05:48:35 PM  
That's why I point at the ground.
 
2013-05-04 05:48:36 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.


What was assholish to either the officials or the other team?  He pointed to the sky, not to the other team, like neeners, we won.  He didn't point to the officials with the middle finger.  That is a pretty low threshold for celebration imo.  Since I wasnt on the rules committee, meh but he wasn't doing the Dirty Bird out there.
 
2013-05-04 05:50:50 PM  
DQ is disgusting. I can't believe that shathole is still around

Also, you won. Act like you've done it before. Have some class and humility
 
2013-05-04 05:51:37 PM  

Evilnissan: That's why I point at the ground.


HAIL SATAN!
 
2013-05-04 05:51:40 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.


Maybe I spent too much time in math and science classes in college and neglected my reading, but I must ask you where in the article does it mention he acted like an asshole?
 
2013-05-04 05:52:17 PM  
Maybe he saw a UFO.
 
2013-05-04 05:53:00 PM  

betelgeux: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

Maybe I spent too much time in math and science classes in college and neglected my reading, but I must ask you where in the article does it mention he acted like an asshole?


Well there is the part where the officials said they did it because he was being disrespectful to them.
 
2013-05-04 05:53:22 PM  

TexasRedbud: And I have always wanted to ask, ' when did it become a 'right' to not be offended. If you are offended so easily, stay home.

If watching the winner of a race raise his arms puts you off, maybe competing in athletics isn't your thing?


It's not a "right" it's a high school athletics association rule.  In the liberal wussy PC state of Texas, where there is next to zero interest in competitive sports.

There is a similar rule in the NCAA.
 
2013-05-04 05:54:07 PM  
media.nj.com
 
2013-05-04 05:54:50 PM  
Which finger did he use?
 
2013-05-04 05:55:37 PM  
What a load of bull.
 
2013-05-04 05:56:07 PM  
Good

/God didn't get you the win, and if you think the almighty did, he also gave you the disqualification
//mysterious ways
 
2013-05-04 05:56:36 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: betelgeux: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

Maybe I spent too much time in math and science classes in college and neglected my reading, but I must ask you where in the article does it mention he acted like an asshole?

Well there is the part where the officials said they did it because he was being disrespectful to them.


This rule has been around awhile, so the event probably went down as such:

"I'm gonna do it if I win."
"You better not."
"I'm gonna do it if I win..."
"I am strongly warning you against that..."
 
2013-05-04 05:56:45 PM  
RAAARRRR RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHY DON'T THEY ALL DIE ALREADY!!!!1!11
 
2013-05-04 05:58:21 PM  

eraser8: I don't understand why it's so hard simply to participate in an athletic event and leave it at that.

Why do people feel the need to dance?  Or, point at the sky?  Or, helicopter with their penis?

Okay, the last one I can sort of understand...but, the others?  WTF?


Never won anything have you?
 
2013-05-04 06:01:12 PM  
Since the article provides only the barest minimum of details and invites all kinds of wild speculation, here's my entry for the "What Really Happened" guessing game:

The kid was a cocky douche who made a big showy "I'm number one!" gesture directed at the judges. When they got honked off about it, his dad tried to cover by claiming it was really a humble thank you to God, and therefore protected religious speech. When that didn't fly either, douchey kid got extra douchey and the judges unloaded a big heaping scoop of DQ on the self-fingering little snowflake.

/ahh, sweet uninformed opinion. Are there no questions you cannot answer?
 
2013-05-04 06:02:30 PM  
Thanks for helping me run from point A to point B a little faster than the other kids, Jesus.
 
2013-05-04 06:02:38 PM  

No Time To Explain: Good

/God didn't get you the win, and if you think the almighty did, he also gave you the disqualification
//mysterious ways


God should stop meddling in high school track meets and just let the kids win or lose on their merits.
 
2013-05-04 06:02:49 PM  

slimfast: [media.nj.com image 432x576]


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media.nj.com
No U!!
 
2013-05-04 06:03:56 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Apos: Why disqualify the entire team for one member's conduct? This is the part that makes very little sense.

Why decimate an entire legion because one soldier was too hungover to fight? So you can be sure it won't happen again.


I hope you don't coach kids' soccer or anything.
 
2013-05-04 06:05:22 PM  
Officials feeling bad for students feeling bad because they lost.  Hurt feelings all around.  Celebrations are unfair and don't make anyone but the winners feel good and that's just not fair.  Ahhh.  Poor weak people.
 
2013-05-04 06:05:31 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: No Time To Explain: Good

/God didn't get you the win, and if you think the almighty did, he also gave you the disqualification
//mysterious ways

God should stop meddling in high school track meets and just let the kids win or lose on their merits.


But then the terrorists won if that happens!

/the only thing that can stop God's bad intentions is God's God intentions
//I'm a bit rusty, I think I need a beer
 
2013-05-04 06:05:41 PM  
Ah, yes.  Your team is clearly the best, so let's keep you from competing in the championship.  Who benefits from disqualifying the team?
 
2013-05-04 06:06:29 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: slimfast: [media.nj.com image 432x576]

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[media.nj.com image 432x576]
No U!!


www.paris2amsterdam.com
 
2013-05-04 06:06:33 PM  
Isn't celebration the whole point of winning?
 
2013-05-04 06:14:42 PM  
Track is notorious for its rules. I've seen people dq'ed for mismatched spandex on a relay team, the wrong sized logo on non team gear, or even a sports bra that was too bright of a color.
 
2013-05-04 06:17:35 PM  
So every time I scored a goal in high school and raised my hockey stick they should have called the game and made us forfeit the win?????   The pussification of this generation of kids marches on.
 
2013-05-04 06:18:02 PM  
cdn.bleacherreport.net
 
2013-05-04 06:18:58 PM  

INeedAName: Track is notorious for its rules. I've seen people dq'ed for mismatched spandex on a relay team, the wrong sized logo on non team gear, or even a sports bra that was too bright of a color.


...I've got an idea for a track version of "Stick It"...
 
2013-05-04 06:19:04 PM  
After reading the thread, I must say even I'm impressed at the Christian persecution complex ITT. If you poor downtrodden half wits can't get treated fairly in Texas, where can you?
 
2013-05-04 06:20:44 PM  
I don't care if it was religious or not.  Pointing at the sky shouldn't considered excessive, by any stretch of the imagination.

F*cking let kids have some fun.  If it's ok for world-recording breaking Olympic athletes to do, it ought to be acceptable for high school kids to do.

I played high school football.  You couldn't do an end-zone dance or spike the ball, but the whole team could jump around and raise their arms for a touchdown.

f*cking people are idiots.
 
2013-05-04 06:22:15 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-05-04 06:22:32 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: eraser8: Or, helicopter with their penis?

What athletic events are YOU going to?


Obviously, Penn State Football
 
2013-05-04 06:23:48 PM  

laid back w/bud light: win?????   The pussification of this generation of kids marches on.


well, you're obviously a bigoted racist male hatemonger. please leave my country and let us create a newer and better society without you.
 
2013-05-04 06:25:49 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: dairy queened?  just for doin that?? impossible


That is the first thing I thought!  I was like "Oh he took the entire team to Dairy Queen after the race yay!" then I was like Oh :( NM...
 
2013-05-04 06:26:42 PM  
Hey, everyone should go home with a trophy just for being!
 
2013-05-04 06:27:47 PM  
Obligatory:

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2013-05-04 06:31:45 PM  

TexasRedbud: He wasn't disqualified for religious demonstration.   The argument is being made that he should be excused because it was religious.  I really do not have an opinion  about that.   I do not think it matters why he raised his arms.

I want to know when raising your hands / arms at the end of a race became 'excessive celebration'?    How sensitive does the losing team have to be to be intimidated by the raising of arms?    Have we, as a society become such a bunch of complete wusses that we can be so easily offended?     And I have always wanted to ask,  ' when did it become a 'right' to not be offended.   If you are offended so easily,  stay home.

If watching the winner of a race raise his arms puts you off, maybe competing in athletics isn't your thing?


This.
 
2013-05-04 06:31:49 PM  
I didn't know the NFL was running the track meets down in Texas.

It isn't a religion thing, it's a don't show off thing.

But even I think this is excessive. But doesn't warrant the persecution complex some Christians like to bring into these debates.
 
2013-05-04 06:32:48 PM  

Joe USer: It's called unsportsmanlike conduct, you don't act like an idiot on the field. You can make an idiot of yourself afterwards.


As you so eloquently put, he should be allowed to act like an idiot "afterwards" is exactly what he did.  He crossed the line, thus the race has ended.  I guess we all define "idiot" differently.

Learn how to read...
High school track runner Derrick Hayes did exactly that last weekend after finishing a race in first place.
 
2013-05-04 06:32:59 PM  

iheartscotch: School policy has nothing to do with it. State athletic policy against celebrating has everything to do with it.


MA and TX both have "no celebration" rules in football. There was a MA football team that lost a TD in a championship game due to an arm raised.

This is getting to a point where the wild celebrations during and after "Miracle on Ice" will be penalized, and kids will play like the automaton Soviets.
 
2013-05-04 06:33:22 PM  

FloydA: Apos: Why disqualify the entire team for one member's conduct? This is the part that makes very little sense.

He was the anchor in the 4X100 relay.  Without all four positions, there is no team.


s4.postimg.org
Ya call that an anchor?
 
2013-05-04 06:35:33 PM  
when you win you're supposed to apologize not celebrate, get with the program
 
2013-05-04 06:38:04 PM  

LtDarkstar: Jon iz teh kewl: dairy queened?  just for doin that?? impossible

That is the first thing I thought!  I was like "Oh he took the entire team to Dairy Queen after the race yay!" then I was like Oh :( NM...


if he didn't what a jackass

img.timeinc.net
 
2013-05-04 06:41:13 PM  
I'm gonna let you finish but..........
 
2013-05-04 06:47:32 PM  
I dunno. I am an atheist, but I I saw no problem with him pointing to his favorite non-existent deity.
 
2013-05-04 06:51:39 PM  

utah dude: laid back w/bud light: win?????   The pussification of this generation of kids marches on.

well, you're obviously a bigoted racist male hatemonger. please leave my country and let us create a newer and better society without you.


If you're a troll it was lame. If you're serious You're even lamer.
 
2013-05-04 06:53:51 PM  

loveblondieo: It would have been helpful if the article actually stated what he was doing that was disrespectful to the officials. Just pointing the sky doesn't seem so bad.


This.
I would like to see how other people celebrated when they won and what the line is between "excessive" and acceptable.
Can you look up to the sky?
Can you pump your fist?
Can you cover your face with your hands?
Can you say "yes!"
 
2013-05-04 06:54:01 PM  
commonsenseatheism.com

/oblig
 
2013-05-04 06:55:19 PM  
That's all the officials did?

They should have burned the school town and killed everyone in this kid's family.

Sorry. It was a well documented rule...act like you've been there before.
 
2013-05-04 06:57:29 PM  
Joe USer

It's called unsportsmanlike conduct, you don't act like an idiot on the field. You can make an idiot of yourself afterwards.

awww did your widddle fewings get hurt by somebowdy pointing up? When you're mommie's done on main street show here where it hurts and have her kiss it and make it alllll bettter.
 
2013-05-04 06:59:42 PM  
We've seen this before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q96NNj0xpE">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=4Q96NNj0xpE
 
2013-05-04 07:01:22 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.


No, that is not what TFA article said.

"...was disqualified by local meet officials for an unsporting act at the conclusion of the boys 4 x100 meter relay.
 The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion. In the judgment of the official, this was a violation of NFHS track & field rule 4-6-1.


The violation was specified as excessive celebration.  The act of this excessive celebration is what was perceived as being disrespectful.

TFA states that they convened after they witnessed this excessive celebration, not due to his "acting like an asshole to officials".

Stop making things up.
 
2013-05-04 07:03:29 PM  
Political correctness is farking everything up.

People that enforce or encourage political correctness are douchbags.
 
2013-05-04 07:04:44 PM  
Fark atheists give /r/atheism a run for their money.
 
2013-05-04 07:05:03 PM  
If I were the coach I would have cussed him out; not for the grandstanding, but the fact that after his run he showed he did not put his all into the run and was able to point and cheer right after.

/Put it all into the event
//You had three teammates counting on you
///Quit whining like Tim Tebow and perform
 
2013-05-04 07:08:30 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

No, that is not what TFA article said.

"...was disqualified by local meet officials for an unsporting act at the conclusion of the boys 4 x100 meter relay.
 The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion. In the judgment of the official, this was a violation of NFHS track & field rule 4-6-1.


The violation was specified as excessive celebration.  The act of this excessive celebration is what was perceived as being disrespectful.

TFA states that they convened after they witnessed this excessive celebration, not due to his "acting like an asshole to officials".

Stop making things up.


Read your own post, moron.
 
2013-05-04 07:09:23 PM  

Fallout Boy: Fark atheists give /r/atheism a run for their money.


You know this story has nothing to do with religion right?

But I guess you have to nurse that persecution complex that some Christians seem to have somehow.
 
2013-05-04 07:10:38 PM  
FTFA: In the judgment of the official, this was a violation of NFHS track & field rule 4-6-1.

Okay, so 4-6-1 states:  "Unsporting conduct is behavior that is unethical or dishonorable. It
includes, but is not limited to: disrespectfully addressing an official, any flagrant behavior, intentional contact, taunting, criticizing or using profanity directed toward someone. "

So point your finger in the air is considered "flagrant behavior"?

The penalty doesn't say that the whole team gets DQd
 
2013-05-04 07:11:13 PM  
Also DQ'ed?
media.mlive.com

But hey lets be good bigots and support zero tolerance when we hate their belief system.
 
2013-05-04 07:18:11 PM  
Surprised there's no video of the incident.
 
2013-05-04 07:18:50 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: tenpoundsofcheese: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

No, that is not what TFA article said.

"...was disqualified by local meet officials for an unsporting act at the conclusion of the boys 4 x100 meter relay.
 The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion. In the judgment of the official, this was a violation of NFHS track & field rule 4-6-1.


The violation was specified as excessive celebration.  The act of this excessive celebration is what was perceived as being disrespectful.

TFA states that they convened after they witnessed this excessive celebration, not due to his "acting like an asshole to officials".


Stop making things up.

Read your own post, moron.


finish reading what I wrote.
By the way, there is NOTHING in the rule they cited against "excessive celebration"

/name calling?  Really?? You didn't even read what I wrote.
//at least pretend you know how to read before launching a personal attack.
 
2013-05-04 07:19:18 PM  
Mrtraveler01
... has nothing to do with religion right?
Bullshiat.

people have been doing silly TD celebrations for decades. Some QB drops to his knee last season and there's 400 FARK threads with whiny little bigots complaining.

It is about religious bigotry. You're just a lair.
 
2013-05-04 07:21:00 PM  

Joe USer: It's called unsportsmanlike conduct, you don't act like an idiot on the field. You can make an idiot of yourself afterwards.


And we're done. The motivation behind your unsportsmanlike conduct is irrelevant - the conduct itself is the issue, and it did break Texas high school sport rules.
 
2013-05-04 07:21:36 PM  
If the kid had made a Peace sign, the support of the FARK bigots herein would not be the same.
 
2013-05-04 07:22:07 PM  
The part folks seem to gloss over:

The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion.

I suspect there's a bit more here than just "I pointed at my sky-fairy."
 
2013-05-04 07:23:12 PM  
All he did was to imply that god liked him more than everyone else.
 
2013-05-04 07:24:04 PM  

OnlyM3: If the kid had made a Peace sign, the support of the FARK bigots herein would not be the same.


If the kid had made a peace sign, this wouldn't have made the news - he simply would've been disqualified.

In Texas, mind you. Y'know, clearly the land of anti-Christian sentiment.
 
2013-05-04 07:27:07 PM  

utah dude: laid back w/bud light: win?????   The pussification of this generation of kids marches on.

well, you're obviously a bigoted racist male hatemonger. please leave my country and let us create a newer and better society without you.


we should hang out.
 
2013-05-04 07:27:22 PM  
propasaurus


[ help_i'm_being_oppressed.jpg ]
Funny you try that line as the team was banned for "oppressing" the others.
 
2013-05-04 07:30:13 PM  

semiotix: Without wading into the whole oh so delightful atheism/religion farkfest once again, my guess is that 99% of the story has nothing to do with what was reported.

I'm guessing that he'd severely pissed off the officials in some other fashion, or someone else on his team had, or someone at some point came to that race bound and determined to stir up some shiat one way or another, and this is the end result.

Just a guess, but there's a lot of psychodrama at any youth athletic event, most of it in the heads of people NOT competing.


I agree, sounds like a grudge about something totally unrelated, perhaps involving the coach or the school, got vented in this childish and ridiculous way by the judges.

This is why I don't enjoy the so-called 'sports' where the judging decides the winner, like gymnastics or any of the various kinds of dance.

Even a good boxing match can be screwed up, when it goes to the judges.

Sad to see this mentality leaking over into something usually so clear as winning a race.
 
2013-05-04 07:32:48 PM  

FormlessOne: The part folks seem to gloss over:

The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion.

I suspect there's a bit more here than just "I pointed at my sky-fairy."


Nope.
They claimed that they convened after seeing him point his finger.  Not after he was disrespectful.
They are using that wild act of excessive celebration as a way to explain how he was being disrespectful.
 
2013-05-04 07:33:51 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: machodonkeywrestler: tenpoundsofcheese: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

No, that is not what TFA article said.

"...was disqualified by local meet officials for an unsporting act at the conclusion of the boys 4 x100 meter relay.
 The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion. In the judgment of the official, this was a violation of NFHS track & field rule 4-6-1.


The violation was specified as excessive celebration.  The act of this excessive celebration is what was perceived as being disrespectful.

TFA states that they convened after they witnessed this excessive celebration, not due to his "acting like an asshole to officials".

Stop making things up.

Read your own post, moron.

finish reading what I wrote.
By the way, there is NOTHING in the rule they cited against "excessive celebration"

/name calling?  Really?? You didn't even read what I wrote.
//at least pretend you know how to read before launching a personal attack.


I get it now, you're just delusional. If you can't see where the two bolded selections (one of which is at the end [i.e. finish] of what you wrote) are equivalent then there really is no help for you
 
2013-05-04 07:34:20 PM  

FormlessOne: Joe USer: It's called unsportsmanlike conduct, you don't act like an idiot on the field. You can make an idiot of yourself afterwards.

And we're done. The motivation behind your unsportsmanlike conduct is irrelevant - the conduct itself is the issue, and it did break Texas high school sport rules.


Meh.
Here is the wording of the rule they claimed he broke: 4-6-1
"Unsporting conduct is behavior that is unethical or dishonorable. Itincludes, but is not limited to: disrespectfully addressing an official, any flagrantbehavior, intentional contact, taunting, criticizing or using profanity directedtoward someone. "
 
2013-05-04 07:34:46 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Fallout Boy: Fark atheists give /r/atheism a run for their money.

You know this story has nothing to do with religion right?

But I guess you have to nurse that persecution complex that some Christians seem to have somehow.


What are you talking about? I am referring to the farkers in this thread who didn't RTFA and said that he deserved to be DQed because he thanked god, and not because it was excessive celebration.

Listen, I know that part of your job as an internet atheist is to jump on anyone that appear to disagree with the world view that you have perfectly figured out, often before giving yourself the time to rub your two brain cells together, but next time, do me a favor and drop that "you are with us or against us" bullshiat. Just because I disagree with atheists in this thread doesn't automatically make me a Christian.
 
2013-05-04 07:35:30 PM  
In other news, America spends waaaaaaayyyyy too much time caring about high school sports
 
2013-05-04 07:45:16 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

No, that is not what TFA article said.

"...was disqualified by local meet officials for an unsporting act at the conclusion of the boys 4 x100 meter relay.
 The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion. In the judgment of the official, this was a violation of NFHS track & field rule 4-6-1.


The violation was specified as excessive celebration.  The act of this excessive celebration is what was perceived as being disrespectful.

TFA states that they convened after they witnessed this excessive celebration, not due to his "acting like an asshole to officials".

Stop making things up.


Ooooooh!   Using the button is fun!  Look, I can do it, too!  So, nyah.
 
2013-05-04 07:48:07 PM  

mr_a: Somehow in the list of things wrong with the world, a high-school athlete pointing to the sky in front of the judges just doesn't seem all that bad.

Depending on which finger he pointed with...


Somehow in the list of things wrong with the world, a high-school athletics organization enforcing a generally applicable rule in a non-discriminatory way against an athlete who indisputably violated it just doesn't seem all that bad.
 
2013-05-04 07:48:49 PM  
Perhaps they were upset that he was acknowledging the theory that the earth rotates about the sun.
 
2013-05-04 07:52:14 PM  

cmb53208: In other news, America spends waaaaaaayyyyy too much time caring about high school sports


↑↑↑↑THIS↑↑↑↑

  Or in other words,   it's sports:
 
2013-05-04 07:53:21 PM  

ZeroCorpse: cmb53208: In other news, America spends waaaaaaayyyyy too much time caring about high school sports


↑↑↑↑THIS↑↑↑↑

  Or in other words,   it's sports:

www.fairfaxunderground.com
 
2013-05-04 07:53:33 PM  

EatenTheSun: Man, that's a really low threshold for "excessive".


Yeah.  And vague.  It's like a homeowners association fining someone because they don't like the way you look, and using any rule to vaguely cover the decision.  Frightened little would-be morality police grab power in whatever little ways they can.
 
2013-05-04 07:57:26 PM  
Some sports are real anal retentive about things. We had a local hs track 4x400 relay team dq'd because one of the team members was wearing white sliders instead of black sliders.

I've heard of a hs swim team that was dq'd for shaving in the locker room.

Rules are rules I guess.
 
2013-05-04 07:57:56 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: FormlessOne: The part folks seem to gloss over:

The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion.

I suspect there's a bit more here than just "I pointed at my sky-fairy."

Nope.
They claimed that they convened after seeing him point his finger.  Not after he was disrespectful.
They are using that wild act of excessive celebration as a way to explain how he was being disrespectful.


Yeah. I can't imagine a jock being disrespectful. What a shocker.
 
2013-05-04 08:01:38 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

/what are we talking about?
 
2013-05-04 08:07:34 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: tenpoundsofcheese: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

No, that is not what TFA article said.

"...was disqualified by local meet officials for an unsporting act at the conclusion of the boys 4 x100 meter relay.
 The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion. In the judgment of the official, this was a violation of NFHS track & field rule 4-6-1.


The violation was specified as excessive celebration.  The act of this excessive celebration is what was perceived as being disrespectful.

TFA states that they convened after they witnessed this excessive celebration, not due to his "acting like an asshole to officials".


Stop making things up.

Ooooooh!   Using the button is fun!  Look, I can do it, too!  So, nyah.


yeah, great you learned how to use that.  too bad you didn't learn how to read what I farking wrote.

btw, there is nothing in the rule they cited against "excessive celebration"
 
2013-05-04 08:09:49 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: EatenTheSun: Man, that's a really low threshold for "excessive".

Yeah.  And vague.  It's like a homeowners association fining someone because they don't like the way you look, and using any rule to vaguely cover the decision.  Frightened little would-be morality police grab power in whatever little ways they can.


the rule they cited does not even say excessive celebration
Here is the wording of the rule they claimed he broke: 4-6-1
"Unsporting conduct is behavior that is unethical or dishonorable. It includes, but is not limited to: disrespectfully addressing an official, any flagrant behavior, intentional contact, taunting, criticizing or using profanity directed toward someone. "
 
2013-05-04 08:13:30 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: there really is no help for you


The only thing that helps is the ignore function.
 
pla
2013-05-04 08:13:58 PM  
What gives with this annoying "unsportsmanlike behavior" BS?  A contest has a winner and a loser.  How he acts after winning may affect his PR, but the kid still won.  End of farking story.  Sorry that you goddamned nannies won't stop until everyone wears a chain so they all need to cross the finish line together, but sports means WINNING.  Not humility.

He won.  Change the books all you want, but everyone will remember the "official" winners as "oh yeah, those LOSERS who advanced a slot on a technicality".

Pathetic.  We deserve the asteroid.
 
2013-05-04 08:15:00 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Benevolent Misanthrope: tenpoundsofcheese: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

No, that is not what TFA article said.

"...was disqualified by local meet officials for an unsporting act at the conclusion of the boys 4 x100 meter relay.
 The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion. In the judgment of the official, this was a violation of NFHS track & field rule 4-6-1.


The violation was specified as excessive celebration.  The act of this excessive celebration is what was perceived as being disrespectful.

TFA states that they convened after they witnessed this excessive celebration, not due to his "acting like an asshole to officials".

Stop making things up.

Ooooooh!   Using the button is fun!  Look, I can do it, too!  So, nyah.

yeah, great you learned how to use that.  too bad you didn't learn how to read what I farking wrote.

btw, there is nothing in the rule they cited against "excessive celebration"


LOL - that poor chicken
 
2013-05-04 08:16:42 PM  
i.imgur.com
I'm guessing this is what was in the sky, and we just witnessed more Superdickery.
 
2013-05-04 08:17:29 PM  

cmb53208: In other news, America spends waaaaaaayyyyy too much time caring about high school sports


Mostly only people in high school or the parents of people in high school.
 
2013-05-04 08:18:47 PM  
This is absolutely stupid for two reasons :1. He pointed at the sky, he didn't do a 30 second victory dance and tell the other team to such his disk, etc... 2. God(if he exists) doesn't follow sports and crop like that, this always annoys me.
 
2013-05-04 08:27:34 PM  
I truly disrespect people that do shiat like this almost to the point of hate.

I could easily punch them repeatedly.
 
2013-05-04 08:28:19 PM  
newsblogs.chicagotribune.com
 
2013-05-04 08:32:09 PM  
Wow ... the officials from this very religious state say that they have no rules against religious displays and they explicitly say that this decision has nothing to do with religion.

And yet look at this thread full of hate spewing out of fark "christians".

"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
- Mahatma Ghandi
 
2013-05-04 08:36:04 PM  

Mikey1969: This is absolutely stupid for two reasons :1. He pointed at the sky, he didn't do a 30 second victory dance and tell the other team to such his disk, etc... 2. God(if he exists) doesn't follow sports

and how do you know this?

and crop like that, this always annoys me.

You have my sympathies.  It is sad that someone could even be mildly annoyed by something like that.
I hope you feel better.
 
2013-05-04 08:37:45 PM  

Farking Canuck: Wow ... the officials from this very religious state say that they have no rules against religious displays and they explicitly say that this decision has nothing to do with religion.

And yet look at this thread full of hate spewing out of fark "christians".

"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
- Mahatma Ghandi


Why would someone care about what a bigot like Ghandi likes?
 
2013-05-04 08:39:29 PM  

fusillade762: machodonkeywrestler: there really is no help for you

The only thing that helps is the ignore function.


Sometimes I am tempted to ignore people, but I always resist the temptation.
 
2013-05-04 08:39:52 PM  
Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful
 
2013-05-04 08:41:46 PM  

eraser8: I don't understand why it's so hard simply to participate in an athletic event and leave it at that.

Why do people feel the need to dance?  Or, point at the sky?  Or, helicopter with their penis?

Okay, the last one I can sort of understand...but, the others?  WTF?


Exactly this. Act like you've scored/won before. Don't act like a biatch.

/ALL celebrations of all types should be considered excessive.
//Never celebrated after a TD, just handed the ball off to the nearest ref
 
2013-05-04 08:44:06 PM  

OnlyM3: propasaurus


[ help_i'm_being_oppressed.jpg ]
Funny you try that line as the team was banned for "oppressing" the others.


You're not very good at this.
 
2013-05-04 08:46:22 PM  
so, superman or slime creatures from outer space/?
 
2013-05-04 08:47:21 PM  

TexasRedbud: He wasn't disqualified for religious demonstration.   The argument is being made that he should be excused because it was religious.  I really do not have an opinion  about that.   I do not think it matters why he raised his arms.

I want to know when raising your hands / arms at the end of a race became 'excessive celebration'?    How sensitive does the losing team have to be to be intimidated by the raising of arms?    Have we, as a society become such a bunch of complete wusses that we can be so easily offended?     And I have always wanted to ask,  ' when did it become a 'right' to not be offended.   If you are offended so easily,  stay home.

If watching the winner of a race raise his arms puts you off, maybe competing in athletics isn't your thing?



If you know the rules but refuse to follow them, maybe competing in athletics isn't your thing?
 
2013-05-04 08:47:56 PM  
I'm hungry for Dairy Queen now.
 
2013-05-04 08:56:06 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The All-Powerful Atheismo: betelgeux: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - it DOES, however, prohibit acting like an asshole to the officials, which, if you RTFA, he did.

Maybe I spent too much time in math and science classes in college and neglected my reading, but I must ask you where in the article does it mention he acted like an asshole?

Well there is the part where the officials said they did it because he was being disrespectful to them.

This rule has been around awhile, so the event probably went down as such:

"I'm gonna do it if I win."
"You better not."
"I'm gonna do it if I win..."
"I am strongly warning you against that..."


Wait, so we're now divining a conversation which happened between the athlete and someone, maybe an official at the race?  What if I speculate the conversation went like this
Judge 1:  I frakking hate my life, my whore of a wife is banging my neighbor.

Judge 2:  I hear you man.  My life is no bed of roses either, my daughter is pregnant by a dead beat
                 in-and-out of jail bozo.

Judge 1:  Did you see what that a-hole did on the track?  He pointed to the sky, in a non-threatening
                 manner, it was almost imperceptible, but I saw him point to the sky!

Judge 2:  That shiat is ridiculous, I want to disqualify him and his entire team.  Christians are such pricks
                 for flaunting it and forcing it into our faces all the time.

Judge 1:  I agree, he's probably affiliated with that Westboro Baptist Church.  Disqualified, indeed!

I mean, if we're making shiat up, why is your story any more probable than mine?  I'm not a christian, religious, or spiritual.  Maybe that's why I don't get pissed off when someone whispers a prayer, or thanks a god for luck.  It doesn't hurt me, and it's not excessive if it went down exactly as described in the article (which is all I have to go on).
 
2013-05-04 08:59:09 PM  

FormlessOne: The part folks seem to gloss over:

The meet official indicated the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger and behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials, in their opinion.

I suspect there's a bit more here than just "I pointed at my sky-fairy."


I suspect that, if there were more here, the kind of officials who describe "the athlete crossed the finish line and gestured upward with his arm and finger" would have no trouble specifying the actual additional behavior instead of just characterizing it as disrespectful. I suspect that if pressed they would say the kid looked at the officials in a way they didn't like (or alternatively admit that their wording is misleading and the gesture and disrespectful behavior were one and the same).

I doubt there's a religious angle here. Mostly it looks like prick officials jumping at a chance to fark someone with overzealously enforcement of a stupid rule.
 
2013-05-04 09:05:12 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: As you so eloquently put, he should be allowed to act like an idiot "afterwards" is exactly what he did. He crossed the line, thus the race has ended.


Sorry, no.  I did athletics (track and field) in my youth in not-America and you are not off the field until you are off the field.  As in off it.  Not "past the finish line" but physically off the playing field and in the stands.

Rules of conduct apply until you are off the field.  You can get disqualified if you leave your lane without permission or walk back over the finish line to leave the track after a race, or exit the circle (in the throwing events) through the front instead of the back, or before your throw has landed.  That's how sensitive athletics is to behaviour.

This is not some new-fangled American snowflakes thing.  The IAAF rulebook is pretty hefty and old as balls and if you are involved in track and field you know this.  This kid knew this.

Professional athletes in general though - especially in America which is attention whore showboat central - set a very poor example of sportsmanship with their behaviour.  For example in professional track meets the runners almost always leave their lanes when they finish running - sometimes straight in front of another runner.  That would probably get you disqualified in a school meet.
 
2013-05-04 09:05:56 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: eraser8: I don't understand why it's so hard simply to participate in an athletic event and leave it at that.

Why do people feel the need to dance?  Or, point at the sky?  Or, helicopter with their penis?

Okay, the last one I can sort of understand...but, the others?  WTF?

Exactly this. Act like you've scored/won before. Don't act like a biatch.

/ALL celebrations of all types should be considered excessive.
//Never celebrated after a TD, just handed the ball off to the nearest ref


Barry? Barry Sanders? Is that you? You're the best, man.
 
2013-05-04 09:06:02 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: [newsblogs.chicagotribune.com image 850x654]


Might be an apt comparison if Christians WERE being oppressed, having their basic rights stripped, and being persecuted and murdered for their choice. Too bad that there are lots of Christian sports players, Christianity is the dominant religion in America, and no one really cares because of those two points.

And you know, if Christians would stop being backwards bigoted farktards towards people who did nothing to them but be born with an attraction to people with the same genitals, then gays being anywhere wouldn't have to be such a deal. Got no one to blame but yourselves, Christians.

Hey, how's following the "Love your neighbor as yourself", "What you do to the least of you you do to me", and "Judge not lest yourself be judged, there is no judge but me" commands Jesus gave to you going? What's that, you completely ignored it so you can obsess over a line from the Old Testament (which you claim only Jews need to follow) that MIGHT have something to do with homosexuality to justify being evil shiatheads? Doesn't sound very Christian to me. You sure you're not following Satan's will?
 
2013-05-04 09:12:37 PM  

mactobain: DQ: That's what I like about Texas


I read the "DQ" I sang the "That's what I like about Texas" instinctively
 
2013-05-04 09:14:16 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Your Average Witty Fark User: eraser8: I don't understand why it's so hard simply to participate in an athletic event and leave it at that.

Why do people feel the need to dance?  Or, point at the sky?  Or, helicopter with their penis?

Okay, the last one I can sort of understand...but, the others?  WTF?

Exactly this. Act like you've scored/won before. Don't act like a biatch.

/ALL celebrations of all types should be considered excessive.
//Never celebrated after a TD, just handed the ball off to the nearest ref

Barry? Barry Sanders? Is that you? You're the best, man.


Ha. Funny. But I was raised with sportsmanship. When you win, be gracious. When you lose, be gracious. Always act like you've been there, always respect your opponent.
 
2013-05-04 09:31:46 PM  

camelclub: Political correctness is farking everything up.

People that enforce or encourage political correctness are douchbags.


We had "political correctness" back when I was young too.  Back then, we called it "being polite."

Go ahead and use derogatory terms for people; nobody can stop you.  There are no PC word police.  But be aware that everyone will know that you're an asshole.  Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
 
2013-05-04 09:40:32 PM  

EatenTheSun: Man, that's a really low threshold for "excessive".

Subby, what school prohibits religious expression by the individual student?


Yeah, "pointing at the sky" is "excessive"??? I can understand not wanting those asinine touchdown dances that were popular for a while, but pointing at the sky? WTF?

Next time: Teen smiles after setting world record, is banned for life from competition.
 
2013-05-04 09:44:49 PM  
And the lesson he learned this day is that there are a lot of ass holes in the world.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-04 09:48:59 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful


Christians aren't being persecuted, they're just afraid people are going to start treating them like they've treated everyone else.
 
2013-05-04 09:49:46 PM  
  Ahhh, how sweet, the spirit of sportsmanship is.
 
2013-05-04 09:50:06 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Your Average Witty Fark User: eraser8: I don't understand why it's so hard simply to participate in an athletic event and leave it at that.

Why do people feel the need to dance?  Or, point at the sky?  Or, helicopter with their penis?

Okay, the last one I can sort of understand...but, the others?  WTF?

Exactly this. Act like you've scored/won before. Don't act like a biatch.

/ALL celebrations of all types should be considered excessive.
//Never celebrated after a TD, just handed the ball off to the nearest ref

Barry? Barry Sanders? Is that you? You're the best, man.

Ha. Funny. But I was raised with sportsmanship. When you win, be gracious. When you lose, be gracious. Always act like you've been there, always respect your opponent.


Sure, I'm just okay with a bit of leeway between the ideal and the punishment. I think the trigger for DQ should be somewhere beyond a kid's momentary display of excitement about winning a race or scoring a TD. I question whether it is helpful to require kids to maintain a professional detachment (particularly when we don't demand that from actual professionals).

/Sanders really was the best
 
2013-05-04 09:54:14 PM  
Hasn't a couple thousand years of history taught us that doing something wrong in the name of religion doesn't magically make it right?
 
2013-05-04 09:59:08 PM  
truthseeker2083
Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful
Christians aren't being persecuted, they're just afraid people are going to start treating them like they've treated everyone else.


Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like a dumbass
 
2013-05-04 10:11:09 PM  

utah dude: utah dude: laid back w/bud light: win?????   The pussification of this generation of kids marches on.

well, you're obviously a bigoted racist male hatemonger. please leave my country and let us create a newer and better society without you.

we should hang out.



with yourself? forget your alt?
 
2013-05-04 10:14:28 PM  

Gdalescrboz: truthseeker2083
Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful
Christians aren't being persecuted, they're just afraid people are going to start treating them like they've treated everyone else.

Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like a dumbass


I give you the same advice. And he wasn't dq'd for being a devil-dodger. He was dq'd for being a flagrant prick.... Then again, I guess you could say that's the same thing.
 
2013-05-04 10:16:19 PM  

Gdalescrboz: truthseeker2083
Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful
Christians aren't being persecuted, they're just afraid people are going to start treating them like they've treated everyone else.

Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like a dumbass


And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.
 
2013-05-04 10:19:13 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful


Who are you talking to?
Give me a list of "Christian haters" that said pointing to the sky is disrespectful.
Or did you just make it up?
 
2013-05-04 10:20:28 PM  
They should stop being happy when they win.
 
2013-05-04 10:25:26 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: [newsblogs.chicagotribune.com image 850x654]


That cartoon sure makes that fictional old-timey reporter look like a hypocrite.
Ohhhh I get it, that's supposed to represent how the "lame stream" media is always telling Tebow to keep it to himself!
That happens all the time!
Hurp Durp.
 
2013-05-04 10:44:24 PM  
But, religious expression deserves special dispensation because Jesus.

Because in the United States of the Offended, if you point at the sky after a victory, you can be accused of being overtly religious then you'll be punished. This young man was....for pointing at the sky.
2nd place now First place guy will always know he didn't win, it was given to him.
 
2013-05-04 10:45:23 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Mikey1969: This is absolutely stupid for two reasons :1. He pointed at the sky, he didn't do a 30 second victory dance and tell the other team to such his disk, etc... 2. God(if he exists) doesn't follow sports

and how do you know this?

and crop like that, this always annoys me.
You have my sympathies.  It is sad that someone could even be mildly annoyed by something like that.
I hope you feel better.


Yeah, any time a self righteous prick tries tortellini me that an omniscient being has decided to favor his/her athletic performance over everyone else's, it bothers me. Especially with all the broken shirt on this planet a supposed "god" could fix.

Motherfarker's 'Honey-Do' list is a light year long, and he's watching a track meet or a football game? You people may just be the stupidest shiatheads I've EVER met....
 
2013-05-04 10:46:27 PM  
I guess the runner should have celebrated by coming out of the closet. I hear that the coolest thing an athlete can do these days
 
2013-05-04 10:51:16 PM  

FatherChaos: [commonsenseatheism.com image 600x265]

/oblig


A: Guess which one didn't pray to Jesus' daddy?
 
2013-05-04 10:53:40 PM  

Brick-House: And the lesson he learned this day is that there are a lot of ass holes in the world.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x312]


Came hear for this, or any of the iconic shots of runners crossing the line in the big race, pointing skyward with both arms raised.
 
2013-05-04 10:55:11 PM  

stirfrybry: I guess the runner should have celebrated by coming out of the closet. I hear that the coolest thing an athlete can do these days


It's rare. Rare is valuable. Make zealotry rare, and it might get interesting in small doses, years and years from now.
 
2013-05-04 10:56:33 PM  

Kurmudgeon: But, religious expression deserves special dispensation because Jesus.

Because in the United States of the Offended, if you point at the sky after a victory, you can be accused of being overtly religious then you'll be punished. This young man was....for pointing at the sky.
2nd place now First place guy will always know he didn't win, it was given to him.


By God.
 
2013-05-04 10:58:04 PM  

Begoggle: Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful

Who are you talking to?
Give me a list of "Christian haters" that said pointing to the sky is disrespectful.
Or did you just make it up?


goatleggedfellow: Quite sure that the sky pointing is not humble and Jesus-like. Praising God as you finish is taunting everyone else by saying God favored you and not them. It's an insult, regardless of the other runner's faiths.

The refs couldn't have been punishing him for being a Christian because he wasn't being one.

 
2013-05-04 11:19:14 PM  
Truth seeker
Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like adumbs
And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.


Bro I'm not a Christian.  I'm just a person capable of seeing the retardedneas on both sides.  This time the massive amount of retardedneas is being spouted by people who dislike Christians so much they are DQing entire teams for a kid pointing to the sky and claiming he's celebrating to much while clowns like you defend them.  Get over yourself douchebag
 
2013-05-04 11:25:08 PM  
Begoggle  
Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful
Who are you talking to?
Give me a list of "Christian haters" that said pointing to the sky is disrespectful.
Or did you just make it up?


This took me all of 30seonds of scrolling down from the top of the thread.  If you think there aren't haters who genuinely want to see bad things happen to Christians for no other reason than they are Christian, no matter how petty the reason is, you're a full blown retard.

No Time To Explain 
Good
/God didn't get you the win, and if you think the almighty did, he also gave you the disqualification


//mysterious ways
 
2013-05-04 11:32:37 PM  
Yeah, I definitely thought the team got to go to Dairy Queen because he pointed to the sky.
 
2013-05-04 11:32:50 PM  
It's a bird, it's a plane ...
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-04 11:44:00 PM  
Since we're playing the guessing game in this thread, let me throw my own hypothesis out there.

He crossed the line
Pointed at the sky
Official told him to watch it
He mouthed off
DQ for disrespect.

I'm sure it's because he's Christian. We all know how much Texas hates Christianity and will do anything to hurt its followers.
 
2013-05-04 11:44:55 PM  
He should have claimed it was show of support for Jason Collins being the greatest American here in the history of ever. Then he'd have not only not been disqualified, he'd have shamed the other runners and officials for not acknowledging Jason Collins as the greatest hero in American history.
 
2013-05-04 11:51:50 PM  

Brick-House: And the lesson he learned this day is that there are a lot of ass holes in the world.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x312]


And they were both ejected from the games, so I'm not sure what your point is.
 
2013-05-05 12:07:58 AM  
This article is very thin on details but one thing that was made very clear is that he was not disqualified for religious reasons. Repeat ... not disqualified for religious reasons.

Now I see a lot of christians crying persecution and attacking everyone who tries to point this out to them ... because that is what Jesus would do. But this is a state with a very high percentage of christians ... chances are that the judges were christians.

Stop with all the hate for a second and look at the evidence (that's the stuff reasonable people use to prove things). What little evidence there is says religion was not a factor.

Now wipe the spittle off your monitors and calm down until you actually have some evidence of persecution.
 
2013-05-05 12:32:13 AM  

Farking Canuck: This article is very thin on details but one thing that was made very clear is that he was not disqualified for religious reasons. Repeat ... not disqualified for religious reasons.

Now I see a lot of christians crying persecution and attacking everyone who tries to point this out to them ... because that is what Jesus would do. But this is a state with a very high percentage of christians ... chances are that the judges were christians.

Stop with all the hate for a second and look at the evidence (that's the stuff reasonable people use to prove things). What little evidence there is says religion was not a factor.

Now wipe the spittle off your monitors and calm down until you actually have some evidence of persecution.


You want us to use reason? You know what that leads to.
 
2013-05-05 12:40:50 AM  
Farming Canuck

I think the problem most people, myself anyways, have with this incident is that pointing to the sky is now considered excessive celebration.  Come the fark on.  What's next? Giving your mom a hug after winning? Fist pumping? Smiling?  Honestly, we don't know if it was a question of religion.  Maybe the ref doesn't like Christians and used is as a chance to harass one, who knows, that's the problem with refs being able to interpret these kinds of "excessive celebration" rules.  They are similar to zero tolerance policies, they achieve nothing and only punish people who aren't really doing anything that would normally warrant a second glance.
 
2013-05-05 12:47:06 AM  
Imagine if he'd crossed the finish line and yelled 'Allahu akbar!"
 
2013-05-05 01:34:09 AM  

propasaurus: You want us to use reason? You know what that leads to.


Yeah I saw that. Faux News is life imitating art - they have become Idiocracy.
 
2013-05-05 01:39:53 AM  

Gdalescrboz: I think the problem most people, myself anyways, have with this incident is that pointing to the sky is now considered excessive celebration.


Yes ... this goes back to the "thin on details" thing I mentioned. This author of this article clearly implies it was the pointing to the sky but the quote from the race officials says "behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials".

Surprisingly the author of the article does not elaborate on this little detail of "behaved disrespectfully toward meet officials" ... instead he whips his christian readers into a whole torches and pitchforks froth. What would jesus do? Just read the thread and see what "good christians" do.
 
2013-05-05 02:01:19 AM  

TexasRedbud: He wasn't disqualified for religious demonstration.   The argument is being made that he should be excused because it was religious.  I really do not have an opinion  about that.   I do not think it matters why he raised his arms.

I want to know when raising your hands / arms at the end of a race became 'excessive celebration'?    How sensitive does the losing team have to be to be intimidated by the raising of arms?    Have we, as a society become such a bunch of complete wusses that we can be so easily offended?     And I have always wanted to ask,  ' when did it become a 'right' to not be offended.   If you are offended so easily,  stay home.

If watching the winner of a race raise his arms puts you off, maybe competing in athletics isn't your thing?


Don't you see? Letting children celebrate after winning anything is a gateway to prostitution and encourages pre-marital sex. Why not just hand them heroin and a shotgun at the finish line while your at it?

/agree entirely with you
//quit making new make punishments for non-violent behavior
 
2013-05-05 02:12:55 AM  

PapaChester: downstairs: Its showboating, and its been against the rules in high school and college forever.  Argue the rule all you want, but its the rule.

This. When you have to make a rule or law, you don't make it vague or tread in a proverbial grey area. Either it is all in or all out.

Stupid kid is stupid. Cross the line, small wave to the crowd.

Don't thank your god, she didn't do anything.


I bet you both were picked on. Its the only reason why you'd be so uptight!
 
2013-05-05 03:20:35 AM  
My my my. Lots of "protesting too much" in this thread.

LOL!
 
2013-05-05 03:38:25 AM  

FloydA: If the rules say "no dancing around," you can't dance around.  Being very fond of Jesus does not exempt you from the rules.  This isn't prison; you don't get special privileges just for being religious.


Actually, prison is a pretty good analogy for school.
 
2013-05-05 03:40:31 AM  
This has nothing to do with religion but the retarded rules people have made regarding celebrations. We've seen touchdowns called back because a kid started to fist pump and realized he wasn't allowed to and stopped. Any sign of being happy with what you did can cost you the game. It's absurd, but it's nothing to do with religion.
 
2013-05-05 04:13:54 AM  

Reenactment of the heinous unsportsmanlike event.



Disgusting.

Athletics is a calm, tempered activity with no room for expressions of pride, celebration, and passion. If your team wins, great, but keep it to yourself because that's not something you should be telling people about.
 
2013-05-05 05:22:07 AM  

vygramul: FloydA: If the rules say "no dancing around," you can't dance around.  Being very fond of Jesus does not exempt you from the rules.  This isn't prison; you don't get special privileges just for being religious.

Actually, prison is a pretty good analogy for school.


And for society in general.
 
2013-05-05 05:41:44 AM  

vygramul: This has nothing to do with religion but the retarded rules people have made regarding celebrations. We've seen touchdowns called back because a kid started to fist pump and realized he wasn't allowed to and stopped. Any sign of being happy with what you did can cost you the game. It's absurd, but it's nothing to do with religion.


And this again.

Look, we can all agree that the over the top NFL celebrations were getting completely out of hand, but these zero tolerance rules of ANY display of "celebration" have gone entirely too far in the other direction. What's next, smiling because you won? Merely coming in first? Sure, we don't want athletes being rude and in-your-face because they won, but is having a bench full of unsmiling Soviet-era robots really better?
 
2013-05-05 06:04:26 AM  
At least around here, high school sports are VERY strict about celebratory displays, religious or not. We're talking BENIGN stuff here. This has nothing to do with religion. They react the same whether you point at the sky or strike a pose or do a backflip, it's all considered unsportsmanlike boasting.

So this is just an "oppressed" christian trying to act like a martyr.
 
2013-05-05 06:13:15 AM  

Gdalescrboz: Truth seeker
Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like adumbs
And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.

Bro I'm not a Christian.  I'm just a person capable of seeing the retardedneas on both sides.  This time the massive amount of retardedneas is being spouted by people who dislike Christians so much they are DQing entire teams for a kid pointing to the sky and claiming he's celebrating to much while clowns like you defend them.  Get over yourself douchebag


Meh, maybe if christians hadn't made it their goal to interfere and try to legislate everyone else's lives, there wouldn't be so much animosity towards them even in youth sports. As it is, I'm glad the little prick got dq'd for not following the rules, and his little 'but jebus' defense didn't work. And I'm over myself thanks, but you can take that douchebag that you called me and maybe use it to get the sand out of your twat.
 
2013-05-05 06:34:51 AM  
How about this one?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-05 07:21:01 AM  
Maybe he was alerting everyone to an impending drone strike.
 
2013-05-05 07:32:23 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: ThrobblefootSpectre: EatenTheSun: Man, that's a really low threshold for "excessive".

Yeah.  And vague.  It's like a homeowners association fining someone because they don't like the way you look, and using any rule to vaguely cover the decision.  Frightened little would-be morality police grab power in whatever little ways they can.

the rule they cited does not even say excessive celebration
Here is the wording of the rule they claimed he broke: 4-6-1
"Unsporting conduct is behavior that is unethical or dishonorable. It includes, but is not limited to: disrespectfully addressing an official, any flagrant behavior, intentional contact, taunting, criticizing or using profanity directed toward someone. "



fla·grant [fley-gruhnt]
adjective
1. shockingly noticeable or evident; obvious; glaring

So yeah, it could apply.

/Still a retarded rule to be applied to pointing to the sky
 
2013-05-05 07:36:53 AM  

truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: Truth seeker
Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like adumbs
And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.

Bro I'm not a Christian.  I'm just a person capable of seeing the retardedneas on both sides.  This time the massive amount of retardedneas is being spouted by people who dislike Christians so much they are DQing entire teams for a kid pointing to the sky and claiming he's celebrating to much while clowns like you defend them.  Get over yourself douchebag

Meh, maybe if christians hadn't made it their goal to interfere and try to legislate everyone else's lives, there wouldn't be so much animosity towards them even in youth sports. As it is, I'm glad the little prick got dq'd for not following the rules, and his little 'but jebus' defense didn't work. And I'm over myself thanks, but you can take that douchebag that you called me and maybe use it to get the sand out of your twat.


You're a douche
 
2013-05-05 07:58:24 AM  

Gdalescrboz: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: Truth seeker
Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like adumbs
And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.

Bro I'm not a Christian.  I'm just a person capable of seeing the retardedneas on both sides.  This time the massive amount of retardedneas is being spouted by people who dislike Christians so much they are DQing entire teams for a kid pointing to the sky and claiming he's celebrating to much while clowns like you defend them.  Get over yourself douchebag

Meh, maybe if christians hadn't made it their goal to interfere and try to legislate everyone else's lives, there wouldn't be so much animosity towards them even in youth sports. As it is, I'm glad the little prick got dq'd for not following the rules, and his little 'but jebus' defense didn't work. And I'm over myself thanks, but you can take that douchebag that you called me and maybe use it to get the sand out of your twat.

You're a douche


And you're an immature child. Come back after you take your nap and mommy brings your snack.
 
2013-05-05 08:14:26 AM  

Farking Canuck: This article is very thin on details but one thing that was made very clear is that he was not disqualified for religious reasons. Repeat ... not disqualified for religious reasons.


Bears repeating.

That being said, it's still a silly reason to DQ someone for excessive celebration. But to take this as a sign that Christians are being persecuted at track contests in rural Texas (it's in the middle of farking nowhere!) is incredibly stupid as well.
 
2013-05-05 08:16:35 AM  

Fallout Boy: Mrtraveler01: Fallout Boy: Fark atheists give /r/atheism a run for their money.

You know this story has nothing to do with religion right?

But I guess you have to nurse that persecution complex that some Christians seem to have somehow.

What are you talking about? I am referring to the farkers in this thread who didn't RTFA and said that he deserved to be DQed because he thanked god, and not because it was excessive celebration.

Listen, I know that part of your job as an internet atheist is to jump on anyone that appear to disagree with the world view that you have perfectly figured out, often before giving yourself the time to rub your two brain cells together, but next time, do me a favor and drop that "you are with us or against us" bullshiat. Just because I disagree with atheists in this thread doesn't automatically make me a Christian.


And I'm not an Athiest.

I guess that makes two of us.

I just get sick of Christians whining and complaining that they're being persecuted because they aren't getting special treatment. I hate it when the rest of the Christian community is lumped in with these assholes.
 
2013-05-05 08:46:41 AM  
 Truthseeker2083

Anyone who thinks DQing someone for pointing toward the sky under the premise of excessive celebrating, from the ref and probable Christians who made the rule to people defending the ruling, should not be allowed out of their room let alone a public forum to spread their drivel for the world to see.  You sir, are a shame to reason and an example as to why some people still question evolution
 
2013-05-05 09:10:19 AM  

Gdalescrboz:  Truthseeker2083

Anyone who thinks DQing someone for pointing toward the sky under the premise of excessive celebrating, from the ref and probable Christians who made the rule to people defending the ruling, should not be allowed out of their room let alone a public forum to spread their drivel for the world to see.  You sir, are a shame to reason and an example as to why some people still question evolution


It was the rule that none of that was allowed. The athletes knew that, and he chise to break that rule. If he didn't like it, he should try to get it changed, not ignore it and claim jesus made him do it. And so far your argument has consisted of calling people douchebags, not reason, so I would say you are the outlier in the evolutionary chain.
 
2013-05-05 09:39:07 AM  
It's ok. He thought he was the midget from Fantasy Island.  Ze plane ze plane
 
2013-05-05 09:45:26 AM  
The judges made the right call on this. Religion has no place in a government funded school event. What if a kid on the other team had been muslim? Not only does he/she feel horrible about losing, but now they've got some christian bigot rubbing it in their face. Relay makes my blood boil.
 
2013-05-05 10:19:36 AM  
I bet if he'd trailed a rainbow flag out the crack of his ass and did a big, wide-armed, gay leap at the finish it would have been fine.
 
2013-05-05 10:21:17 AM  

Sczi: I bet if he'd trailed a rainbow flag out the crack of his ass and did a big, wide-armed, gay leap at the finish it would have been fine.


I bet it wouldn't have been. Nice try tho.
 
2013-05-05 10:44:07 AM  

Sczi: I bet if he'd trailed a rainbow flag out the crack of his ass and did a big, wide-armed, gay leap at the finish it would have been fine.


Spreading the hate like a good little christian soldier. You fit right into this thread.
 
2013-05-05 11:19:35 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Farking Canuck: This article is very thin on details but one thing that was made very clear is that he was not disqualified for religious reasons. Repeat ... not disqualified for religious reasons.

Bears repeating.

That being said, it's still a silly reason to DQ someone for excessive celebration. But to take this as a sign that Christians are being persecuted at track contests in rural Texas (it's in the middle of farking nowhere!) is incredibly stupid as well.



I wonder why the rule was put in. Most rules are based on some incident or trend. Kids thowing up up the shocker at the end of a race? CFL style coordinated dances? I suspect it wasn't a bunch of mom's wanting everyone, winners included, to get a participation ribbon, but track officials addressing some growing concern.

In the NFL it wasn't the shaprie, or the phone, or the pylon, or the pom poms that got props banned from celebrations. It was the trend.


Monkeyfark Ridiculous: I doubt there's a religious angle here. Mostly it looks like prick officials jumping at a chance to fark someone with overzealously enforcement of a stupid rule.


Perhaps. But perhaps they were doing the job they were asked to do and enforcing the rules they were asked to enforce including one whose interpretation that left them no wiggle room. Zero tollerance with all it's benefits (not playing any favourites) and problems (harsh penalties for innocent mistakes).

"Repeat ... not disqualified for religious reasons "

- Bears repeating
 
2013-05-05 12:51:08 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: eraser8: Or, helicopter with their penis?

What athletic events are YOU going to?


And where do I buy tickets?
 
2013-05-05 12:55:29 PM  

TexasRedbud: He wasn't disqualified for religious demonstration.   The argument is being made that he should be excused because it was religious.  I really do not have an opinion  about that.   I do not think it matters why he raised his arms.

I want to know when raising your hands / arms at the end of a race became 'excessive celebration'?    How sensitive does the losing team have to be to be intimidated by the raising of arms?    Have we, as a society become such a bunch of complete wusses that we can be so easily offended?     And I have always wanted to ask,  ' when did it become a 'right' to not be offended.   If you are offended so easily,  stay home.

If watching the winner of a race raise his arms puts you off, maybe competing in athletics isn't your thing?



As long as they were wearing the right underarm deodorant.

/I understand they're doing very well on  Viltvodle VI.
 
2013-05-05 01:25:10 PM  

truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful

Christians aren't being persecuted, they're just afraid people are going to start treating them like they've treated everyone else.



So Christians aren't being persecuted, but they're afraid of being persecuted?
 
2013-05-05 01:33:26 PM  

ciberido: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful

Christians aren't being persecuted, they're just afraid people are going to start treating them like they've treated everyone else.


So Christians aren't being persecuted, but they're afraid of being persecuted?


They may fear that, but then again, to christians, taking away their ability to discriminate/persecute is oppression. I have heard no plans on rounding them up in camps, denying them the right to marry, or take away their constitutional rights based on their choice of lifestyle, but I have heard every single one of those from the mouths of christians in reguards to gays.
 
2013-05-05 01:43:55 PM  

truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: Truth seeker
Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like adumbs
And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.

Bro I'm not a Christian.  I'm just a person capable of seeing the retardedneas on both sides.  This time the massive amount of retardedneas is being spouted by people who dislike Christians so much they are DQing entire teams for a kid pointing to the sky and claiming he's celebrating to much while clowns like you defend them.  Get over yourself douchebag

Meh, maybe if christians hadn't made it their goal to interfere and try to legislate everyone else's lives, there wouldn't be so much animosity towards them even in youth sports. As it is, I'm glad the little prick got dq'd for not following the rules, and his little 'but jebus' defense didn't work. And I'm over myself thanks, but you can take that douchebag that you called me and maybe use it to get the sand out of your twat.

You're a douche

And you're an immature child. Come back after you take your nap and mommy brings your snack.


No, really.  You sound like a douche.
 
2013-05-05 01:46:51 PM  

super_grass: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: Truth seeker
Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like adumbs
And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.

Bro I'm not a Christian.  I'm just a person capable of seeing the retardedneas on both sides.  This time the massive amount of retardedneas is being spouted by people who dislike Christians so much they are DQing entire teams for a kid pointing to the sky and claiming he's celebrating to much while clowns like you defend them.  Get over yourself douchebag

Meh, maybe if christians hadn't made it their goal to interfere and try to legislate everyone else's lives, there wouldn't be so much animosity towards them even in youth sports. As it is, I'm glad the little prick got dq'd for not following the rules, and his little 'but jebus' defense didn't work. And I'm over myself thanks, but you can take that douchebag that you called me and maybe use it to get the sand out of your twat.

You're a douche

And you're an immature child. Come back after you take your nap and mommy brings your snack.

No, really.  You sound like a douche.


And your point?
 
2013-05-05 01:56:56 PM  
OnlyM3:

awww did your widddle fewings get hurt by somebowdy pointing up? When you're mommie's done on main street show here where it hurts and have her kiss it and make it alllll bettter.

Sometimes I wonder if some people are born stupid or they just work really hard at it their entire lives.
 
2013-05-05 02:00:49 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: Joe USer: It's called unsportsmanlike conduct, you don't act like an idiot on the field. You can make an idiot of yourself afterwards.

As you so eloquently put, he should be allowed to act like an idiot "afterwards" is exactly what he did.  He crossed the line, thus the race has ended.  I guess we all define "idiot" differently.

Learn how to read...
High school track runner Derrick Hayes did exactly that last weekend after finishing a race in first place.


Right after, as in, at the finish line.

Those rules are there to prevent idiots like this guy from getting the crap beaten out of him by the other runners. You want to be an athlete , you learn to follow the rules and act like a decent person. You don't go celebrating on the track, that's childish, you want to celebrate, do it after the meet, do it off the field, do it anywhere else, but NOT AT THE FINISH LINE.
 
2013-05-05 02:17:30 PM  
Atheists are delicate little flowers. They probably translated a silly upward point as an oppressive demand they submit to religion. They probably sued him after that as trampling on their rights as atheists to not have to see things that may or may not be religious. Then after forcing atheism on everyone they declared they weren't a religion and weren't forcing their values on anyone.
 
2013-05-05 02:19:20 PM  

ciberido: The All-Powerful Atheismo: eraser8: Or, helicopter with their penis?

What athletic events are YOU going to?

And where do I buy tickets?


Don't bother.  They almost never achieve enough lift to get airborne.
 
2013-05-05 02:30:27 PM  

Proteios1: Atheists are delicate little flowers. They probably translated a silly upward point as an oppressive demand they submit to religion. They probably sued him after that as trampling on their rights as atheists to not have to see things that may or may not be religious. Then after forcing atheism on everyone they declared they weren't a religion and weren't forcing their values on anyone.


i105.photobucket.com

The kid was DQ's for excessive celebration, not for being religious.  The event occurred in rural Texas, which is not generally considered a hotbed of atheism.  In fact, there is absolutely no reason to assume that any atheists were even present at the track meet.

I get it, you want to feel like you're being persecuted, and I suppose I can understand your desire.  Allow me to help; the best way to feel persecuted for your faith is to go to China, Iran, or Saudi Arabia.  They'll help you out.
 
2013-05-05 02:38:22 PM  

FloydA: ciberido: The All-Powerful Atheismo: eraser8: Or, helicopter with their penis?

What athletic events are YOU going to?

And where do I buy tickets?

Don't bother.  They almost never achieve enough lift to get airborne.


meatspin.com? (VERY NSFW)
 
2013-05-05 03:02:38 PM  

s2s2s2: Begoggle: Gdalescrboz: Wow, the Christian haters are really stretching it.  Pointing to the sky is disrespectful?  Then you want to complain when Hannity cries about Christians being prosecuted.  He's got a point when pointing to the sky is considered disrespectful

Who are you talking to?
Give me a list of "Christian haters" that said pointing to the sky is disrespectful.
Or did you just make it up?

goatleggedfellow: Quite sure that the sky pointing is not humble and Jesus-like. Praising God as you finish is taunting everyone else by saying God favored you and not them. It's an insult, regardless of the other runner's faiths.

The refs couldn't have been punishing him for being a Christian because he wasn't being one.


Prosecuting Persecuting Christians is not the same as expecting Christians to act like Christians. Fishers of men don't flaunt.

I don't hate Christians. If I ever met one, I'd be quite respectful.
 
2013-05-05 03:58:10 PM  

truthseeker2083: super_grass: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: Truth seeker
Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like adumbs
And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.

Bro I'm not a Christian.  I'm just a person capable of seeing the retardedneas on both sides.  This time the massive amount of retardedneas is being spouted by people who dislike Christians so much they are DQing entire teams for a kid pointing to the sky and claiming he's celebrating to much while clowns like you defend them.  Get over yourself douchebag

Meh, maybe if christians hadn't made it their goal to interfere and try to legislate everyone else's lives, there wouldn't be so much animosity towards them even in youth sports. As it is, I'm glad the little prick got dq'd for not following the rules, and his little 'but jebus' defense didn't work. And I'm over myself thanks, but you can take that douchebag that you called me and maybe use it to get the sand out of your twat.

You're a douche

And you're an immature child. Come back after you take your nap and mommy brings your snack.

No, really.  You sound like a douche.

And your point?


That you're a defensive douche, and you're going on the ignore list with the rest of the douches.
 
2013-05-05 05:26:53 PM  

super_grass: truthseeker2083: super_grass: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: truthseeker2083: Gdalescrboz: Truth seeker
Worst. Rebuttal. Evar.  Are Christians demanding teams be DQ'd for similar shiat or are you just grasping at straws? Ya, you're grasping at straws.  Just admit this is ridiculous so you don't continue to make yourself look like adumbs
And by the way... I'm sure jesus would be so proud of the type of language and attitude you've shown. I'm sure that's precisely how he would act.

Bro I'm not a Christian.  I'm just a person capable of seeing the retardedneas on both sides.  This time the massive amount of retardedneas is being spouted by people who dislike Christians so much they are DQing entire teams for a kid pointing to the sky and claiming he's celebrating to much while clowns like you defend them.  Get over yourself douchebag

Meh, maybe if christians hadn't made it their goal to interfere and try to legislate everyone else's lives, there wouldn't be so much animosity towards them even in youth sports. As it is, I'm glad the little prick got dq'd for not following the rules, and his little 'but jebus' defense didn't work. And I'm over myself thanks, but you can take that douchebag that you called me and maybe use it to get the sand out of your twat.

You're a douche

And you're an immature child. Come back after you take your nap and mommy brings your snack.

No, really.  You sound like a douche.

And your point?

That you're a defensive douche, and you're going on the ignore list with the rest of the douches.


Awww no, not some random moron's ignore list! Whatever shall I do? *clutches pearls*
 
2013-05-05 06:10:30 PM  
It's amazing how the Christians in here keep whining and crying about being persecuted when an idiot kid breaks the rules and tries "but Jesus!" as his defense. What, is being the dominant religion in the US, having 500X more churches than any other country, putting the Ten Commandments in front of courthouses, and trying to force everyone else to follow you still not enough?

You also might want to be careful, you're doing exactly what your god and his kid told you NOT to do. Or does the Bible only matter when it comes to your bigotry against gays?
 
2013-05-05 06:35:16 PM  
Good thing those officials weren't around when Jesse Owens ran.
 
2013-05-05 07:11:52 PM  

Hiro-ACiD: How about this one?

[i.imgur.com image 460x276]


How about I once again mention that both men were ejected from the Olympics for that?
 
2013-05-05 07:41:14 PM  

super_grass: That you're a defensive douche, and you're going on the ignore list with the rest of the douches.


Ignore lists are the easy way out. Go visit Slashdot and read at -1 for a few weeks, it will break your habit.
 
2013-05-05 09:33:44 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Your Average Witty Fark User: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Your Average Witty Fark User: eraser8: I don't understand why it's so hard simply to participate in an athletic event and leave it at that.

Why do people feel the need to dance?  Or, point at the sky?  Or, helicopter with their penis?

Okay, the last one I can sort of understand...but, the others?  WTF?

Exactly this. Act like you've scored/won before. Don't act like a biatch.

/ALL celebrations of all types should be considered excessive.
//Never celebrated after a TD, just handed the ball off to the nearest ref

Barry? Barry Sanders? Is that you? You're the best, man.

Ha. Funny. But I was raised with sportsmanship. When you win, be gracious. When you lose, be gracious. Always act like you've been there, always respect your opponent.

Sure, I'm just okay with a bit of leeway between the ideal and the punishment. I think the trigger for DQ should be somewhere beyond a kid's momentary display of excitement about winning a race or scoring a TD. I question whether it is helpful to require kids to maintain a professional detachment (particularly when we don't demand that from actual professionals).

/Sanders really was the best


I'd need video to see if I agree, but, like I said, it's the way I was raised. Was he warned in advance? I'd like to know that too.
 
2013-05-05 09:57:07 PM  
Keizer_Ghidorah:

You also might want to be careful, you're doing exactly what your god and his kid told you NOT to do. Or does the Bible only matter when it comes to your bigotry against gays?

If he was holding up a finger in the "I'm Number 1" sense, then, yes, he was doing something the Bible instructs him not to do. Now on the other hand, if he was pointing a finger up to demonstrate that his effort was to glorify God, he was doing exactly what his Holy Book repeatedly demands he do.
 
2013-05-05 10:20:35 PM  

wellreadneck: Keizer_Ghidorah:

You also might want to be careful, you're doing exactly what your god and his kid told you NOT to do. Or does the Bible only matter when it comes to your bigotry against gays?

If he was holding up a finger in the "I'm Number 1" sense, then, yes, he was doing something the Bible instructs him not to do. Now on the other hand, if he was pointing a finger up to demonstrate that his effort was to glorify God, he was doing exactly what his Holy Book repeatedly demands he do.


No, God says not to glorify him in public. The meek will inherit the Earth and all of that.
 
2013-05-05 11:22:25 PM  

truthseeker2083: They may fear that, but then again, to christians, taking away their ability to discriminate/persecute is oppression. I have heard no plans on rounding them up in camps, denying them the right to marry, or take away their constitutional rights based on their choice of lifestyle, but I have heard every single one of those from the mouths of christians in reguards to gays.


www.wnpj.org
What gays rounded up in camps might look like.
But don't forget the electrified fence.
 
2013-05-05 11:25:21 PM  

vygramul: FloydA: ciberido: The All-Powerful Atheismo: eraser8: Or, helicopter with their penis?

What athletic events are YOU going to?

And where do I buy tickets?

Don't bother.  They almost never achieve enough lift to get airborne.

meatspin.com? (VERY NSFW)


i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-05-06 05:42:37 AM  

ciberido: truthseeker2083: They may fear that, but then again, to christians, taking away their ability to discriminate/persecute is oppression. I have heard no plans on rounding them up in camps, denying them the right to marry, or take away their constitutional rights based on their choice of lifestyle, but I have heard every single one of those from the mouths of christians in reguards to gays.


What gays rounded up in camps might look like.
But don't forget the electrified fence.


Yes, that's what I was referring to. My partner and I have some religious people in our family who dismiss these things as no big deal, but it's happened before, so you never know...
 
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