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2013-05-04 08:04:50 AM  
That derby bowler is a good look for him.

He should keep the bowler. Bowlers are cool.
 
2013-05-04 08:42:09 AM  
Madame Vastra doesn't mind the Crimson Horror, she's perfectly fine with

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-04 09:45:07 AM  
Normally when it's time for the Crimson Horror to make it's appearance, I hole up in the Brown Hotel.
 
2013-05-04 11:11:40 AM  
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2013-05-04 12:52:12 PM  
I like the episodes where he has more than one companion. Maybe that's why I miss the Ponds. This season just isn't doing it for me. I thought Clara would be a great companion but she's just "Meh". Yeah she's hot, but what are better: the Leela episodes of the 4th Doctor or the Sarah Jane episodes? A hotter companion does not equal betters shows. I went back and watched some great episodes from Seasons 5 and 6 with the Ponds and River Song. Episodes like "The Pandorica Opens", "The Big Bang", "The Impossible Astronaut", "Day of the Moon", "A Good Man Goes to War". These episodes are epic and incredible. What have we gotten this season? The universe saved by a leaf, The Doctor in Das Boot, The Doctor in Ghostbusters, and Salvage Men on a Tardis. I'm not the only one who feels this way, that the season is meh. Look at the BBC ratings someone posted last week. The show is headed down fast. It's bleeding viewers:

The Snowmen: 9.87 mil
The Bells: 6.8 mi
The Rings: 5.5 mil
Cold War: 5.7
Hide: 5 mil
Journey: 4.9 mil

They need to find a way to bring the Ponds back....although they won't. Was it ever explained how the Ponds saw their future selves in the future in "The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood" if their future selves are stuck in the past? Or will that paradox just go down the memory hole?
 
2013-05-04 01:26:57 PM  

Walker: They need to find a way to bring the Ponds back


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2013-05-04 01:31:58 PM  
I read earlier this year that Rachel Stirling was going to play Diana Rigg's character when she was younger and instead we get something else.  I agree, the shows are getting more and more "meh."
 
2013-05-04 01:41:20 PM  

Walker: I like the episodes where he has more than one companion. Maybe that's why I miss the Ponds. This season just isn't doing it for me. I thought Clara would be a great companion but she's just "Meh". Yeah she's hot, but what are better: the Leela episodes of the 4th Doctor or the Sarah Jane episodes? A hotter companion does not equal betters shows. I went back and watched some great episodes from Seasons 5 and 6 with the Ponds and River Song. Episodes like "The Pandorica Opens", "The Big Bang", "The Impossible Astronaut", "Day of the Moon", "A Good Man Goes to War". These episodes are epic and incredible. What have we gotten this season? The universe saved by a leaf, The Doctor in Das Boot, The Doctor in Ghostbusters, and Salvage Men on a Tardis. I'm not the only one who feels this way, that the season is meh. Look at the BBC ratings someone posted last week. The show is headed down fast. It's bleeding viewers:

The Snowmen: 9.87 mil
The Bells: 6.8 mi
The Rings: 5.5 mil
Cold War: 5.7
Hide: 5 mil
Journey: 4.9 mil

They need to find a way to bring the Ponds back....although they won't. Was it ever explained how the Ponds saw their future selves in the future in "The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood" if their future selves are stuck in the past? Or will that paradox just go down the memory hole?




You are incorrect sir about the numbers.


Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS - 4.9 million (overnight) TBC (final figure)
Hide - 5 million (overnight) 6.61 million (final figure)
Cold War - 5.7 million (overnight) 7.37 million (final figure)
The Rings of Akhaten - 5.5 million (overnight) 7.45 million (final figure)
The Bells of Saint John - 6.18 million (overnight) 8.44 million (final figure)
The Snowmen - 7.6 million (overnight) 9.87 million (final figure)
The Angels Take Manhattan - 5.9 million (overnight) 7.82 million (final figure)
The Power of Three - 5.5 million (overnight) 7.67 million (final figure)
A Town Called Mercy - 6.6 million (overnight) 8.42 million (final figure)
Dinosaurs on a Spaceship - 5.5 million (overnight) 7.57 million (final figure)
Asylum of the Daleks - 6.4 million (overnight) 8.3 million (final figure)

The overnight does not include DVR and iPlayer figures. The final number doesn't include iTunes downloads.

And the point of The future ponds showing up to see their past selves was to show that time could be changed...future Rory was no longer there.
 
2013-05-04 01:49:36 PM  
Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?
 
2013-05-04 02:03:00 PM  

crotchgrabber: Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?


If possible start with the begining of the new series, Christopher Eckleston (spelling may be off there) made a great Doctor
 
2013-05-04 02:07:04 PM  

Metalupis: crotchgrabber: Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?

If possible start with the begining of the new series, Christopher Eckleston (spelling may be off there) made a great Doctor


Thanks! Is that the 2005 season?
 
2013-05-04 02:15:36 PM  

crotchgrabber: Metalupis: crotchgrabber: Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?

If possible start with the begining of the new series, Christopher Eckleston (spelling may be off there) made a great Doctor

Thanks! Is that the 2005 season?

It is on Netflix streaming, but be careful you don't choose the classic episodes by mistake. Not that there is anything wrong with them-outside of a low budget.

But if you're curious, do check out the First Doctors episode The Aztecs.
 
2013-05-04 02:36:47 PM  

crotchgrabber: Metalupis: crotchgrabber: Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?

If possible start with the begining of the new series, Christopher Eckleston (spelling may be off there) made a great Doctor

Thanks! Is that the 2005 season?


It is.
 
2013-05-04 03:45:19 PM  
The Crimson Horror, sure, but could Dr Who stop the The Crimson Permanent Assurance?
 
2013-05-04 05:13:54 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: crotchgrabber: Metalupis: crotchgrabber: Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?

If possible start with the begining of the new series, Christopher Eckleston (spelling may be off there) made a great Doctor

Thanks! Is that the 2005 season?
It is on Netflix streaming, but be careful you don't choose the classic episodes by mistake. Not that there is anything wrong with them-outside of a low budget.

But if you're curious, do check out the First Doctors episode The Aztecs.


Netflix Canada doesn't have much Doctor Who - just a sample from Doctors 2 and 4 I think (and "The Three Doctors -BLAH"). I had to buy my Doctor Who from XBOX LIVE VIDEO (also is Zune), and learned an important thing - when they fark up and cut off your Live Gold account, they take away your ability to watch the videos even on PC because they completely suspend the Microsoft account.

(Still less expensive than paying $50 a season for the DVDs)
 
2013-05-04 07:22:12 PM  
In a spoiler-free sort of way...

I really enjoyed this episode. Not so much Doctor (at first). Even less Clara (at first). Lots of Vastra, Jenny, and Strax (all three excellent in small doses). Diana Rigg and her daughter were wonderful, Gatiss's script seemed pretty tight, and the story gets wrapped up in a satisfactory way.

Then there's that damned ending.  So many doors suddenly open.
 
2013-05-04 07:33:18 PM  
I thought it was an alright episode.  It wasn't anything great, but Vastra, Jenny, and Strax are fun once or twice a season.  I can't believe there's only two episodes left this season.

The 'Thomas' joke was stupid, but I laughed.
 
2013-05-04 07:36:21 PM  
My six year old really loves the show. I'm conflicted. How can I enjoy something my little kidlet thinks is "cool"?

//just turning the usual parent-child dynamic on it's head
//loved the video of Strax's visit to the school
 
2013-05-04 07:37:38 PM  
//loved the video of Strax's visit to the school

Which is here, in case you missed it earlier this week.
 
2013-05-04 07:37:59 PM  

whyaduck: I really enjoyed this episode.


Yeah. I think this is easily the best one this season. Or at least this half of the season. I think it highlights the pacing issue that's been hitting the series pretty badly the last few seasons: they're writing the story like it's 4 acts, and then trying to fit it into a more standard 3-act hour long program.

The old serials were paced in four acts, mostly. One of them would feel like it was filler (because it was). What they've generally been doing in the new seasons is keeping the filler act and then short-changing the climax. That's a terribly stupid way to pace stories, and it results in muddled stories where the mechanisms of the resolution were pretty much just hand-waving.

In this episode, they took the "filler" act, compressed it into a brief flashback, and used that time to give us a nice, action-y climax. By spending as much time as we did with the Victorian Trio, we actually got some nice moments.

I predict we haven't seen the last of Thomas Thomas, or as I like to call him, "GPS".

Also, when the Doctor was acting... ahem...  woodenly, did anyone else feel like they were watching Peter Davidson? I suspect it was intentional, since they made a callback to Teegan.
 
2013-05-04 07:38:34 PM  

NeoCortex42: The 'Thomas' joke was stupid, but I laughed.


Oh, god. I didn't get it. I totally didn't get the joke until just now. I feel like an idiot.
 
2013-05-04 07:43:05 PM  
About the only good things in this episode (SPOILERS, obv):

1) Whats-her-face in a cat suit
2) Love did not save the day. As a mater of fact, the day was saved by violence, lots of gratuitous violence.

So it had that going for it.
 
2013-05-04 07:44:23 PM  
So is the title, The Crimson Horror, a poke at the anti-Pond folks "Red Menace" nickname for Amy?
 
2013-05-04 07:44:38 PM  

NeoCortex42: The 'Thomas' joke was stupid, but I laughed.


That joke was so bad it actually physically hurt. Even before he said his name.
 
2013-05-04 07:47:31 PM  
Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.
 
2013-05-04 08:07:46 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Madame Vastra doesn't mind the Crimson Horror, she's perfectly fine with


I was going to go for Cornell or Harvard.
 
2013-05-04 08:14:18 PM  

Walker: I like the episodes where he has more than one companion. Maybe that's why I miss the Ponds. This season just isn't doing it for me. I thought Clara would be a great companion but she's just "Meh". Yeah she's hot, but what are better: the Leela episodes of the 4th Doctor or the Sarah Jane episodes?


The Leela serials.
 
2013-05-04 08:17:26 PM  
It's funny how after so many years of not really seeing her, Diana Rigg is suddenly all over the TV:

cartermatt.com

/Been loving her in GoT
 
2013-05-04 08:18:19 PM  
.....NOW I get the Thomas Thomas joke.
 
2013-05-04 08:21:59 PM  
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2013-05-04 08:22:05 PM  
Ada and the difference machine......

Yeah, as soon as Tomas started giving the directions I knew where they were going. That was pretty damn funny.


Good episode...next week looks.....damn.....
 
2013-05-04 08:23:11 PM  
Doctor looks like he got really cold.
 
2013-05-04 08:23:49 PM  
OH MY GOD.  IT'S DIP!!!!!!
 
2013-05-04 08:29:13 PM  
I loved the Tom Tom joke.  When he first popped up I thought "He sounds like a GPS."  then he sat next to Straxx and said he was Thomas Thomas.  Then I had to pause it to explain to my wife why I was laughing.  I also had to explain to my wife the Tegan reference at the start.

The episode was better than I was expecting.  I'm not a huge fan of the Madam and Jenny, but this episode was great.

I've been looking forward to the next episode ever since I saw the clip with the Doctor being assimilated...err...converted with that stuff on his face. Having the kids there might be a bad part, but Clara seeing the picture of the dead Clara will pretty much mean that the Doctor will have some explaining to do next episode, and since there is what, two episodes left, that means that this story line has to be concluded soon.  I don't want this to be a lingering question after Christmas.
 
2013-05-04 08:36:32 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: NeoCortex42: The 'Thomas' joke was stupid, but I laughed.

That joke was so bad it actually physically hurt. Even before he said his name.


I did not get this until now.  Unfortunately, now I'm asuming that I read waaaaaay too much into the character in thinking that there was something off about him and it would come back later.

I've liekd the recent episodes, but this was easily the best of them.  Bells was a good "starting companion" episode, JttCotT (wow, that isn't much shorter/easier when abbreviated) was awesome as a long-term watcher, but this one checked all the boxes and still managed to be unexpected/out of trope.

/thwap thwap thwap
//loved it
///should happen more

JasonOfOrillia: OH MY GOD.  IT'S DIP!!!!!!


I love you.
 
2013-05-04 08:46:03 PM  
The Thomas joke....yeesh, that's the sort of thing I would expect in a fanfic.
 
2013-05-04 09:04:32 PM  
Yay, Cybermen and Warwick Davis next week!
 
2013-05-04 09:08:36 PM  
Thanks for hinting at the Thomas joke. We loved it for the delay factor.

Do I suspect a reboot down the road of "The Sarah Jane Adventures" with... Clara?
 
2013-05-04 09:11:30 PM  

t3knomanser: Also, when the Doctor was acting... ahem...  woodenly, did anyone else feel like they were watching Peter Davidson? I suspect it was intentional, since they made a callback to Teegan.


Every episode so far has had something that calls back to a previous Doctor, if only a reference or idea.

Rings of Akhaten: 1st Doctor - The Doctor mentions bringing Susan there long ago.
Cold War: 2nd Doctor - HADS and the Ice Warrior
Hide: 3rd Doctor - the crystal from Metebelis III
Journey to the Center of the Tardis: 4th Doctor - the interior of the Tardis (including the glimpse of the pool) and the Eye of Harmony
 
2013-05-04 09:11:34 PM  
Oh, and Rachael Stirling needs to borrow her mum's catsuit.
 
2013-05-04 09:19:39 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Oh, and Rachael Stirling needs to borrow her mum's catsuit.


Jenny's got it.

and MrsCptn loved it.
 
2013-05-04 09:22:53 PM  
I'm starting to get tired of the Victorian Trio.  Other than that, good episode.
 
2013-05-04 09:25:03 PM  

angrymacface: if only a reference or idea


I hadn't noticed that they're counting up. Since the next episode is at an amusement park, I'm going to guess that we'll see a motley coat that evokes the 6th doctor's, but that might be a bit too on the nose- watch out for something that evokes the cat pin.
 
2013-05-04 09:32:56 PM  
On a BBC America-related note, I just caught up on Orphan Black this past week. Pretty damn good show. Hopefully the new cast member that showed up in tonight's episode is around for a while.
 
2013-05-04 09:35:01 PM  

whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.


Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!
 
2013-05-04 09:36:35 PM  

dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!


Thomas Thomas gives directions.

Tom Tom is a GPS device.
 
2013-05-04 09:37:26 PM  

dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!


I didn't get it until someone said they had a Garmin. It's a reference to TomTom, the GPS system. I don't know if they even still make them.
 
2013-05-04 09:39:20 PM  

mikieb: dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!

I didn't get it until someone said they had a Garmin. It's a reference to TomTom, the GPS system. I don't know if they even still make them.


I think they still make them.

My TomTom is voiced by BRIAN BLESSED. It makes every drive epic.
 
2013-05-04 09:41:14 PM  

crotchgrabber: Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?


As a Dr. Who fanatic, I'd recommend beginning with the first episodes. Watch the very first one, the next episodes are a bit meh, but then look for the next series 'The Daleks'. This will give you a grasp of who the Dr is and what he is famous for--being an Aesop crow and finding cunning ways to thwart evil without using weapons.

As far as later episodes are concerned, my favorite episode is 'The Girl Who Waited' (it has time/space paradox thingies), the best acting is probably in Dr. Who: A Christmas Carol, and what will get you hooked is 'A Good Man Goes to War' and 'The Impossible Astronaut'--those episodes will show you what all the Dr. has seen and faced.

The neat element of Dr Who is that, with a machine which can travel through Time And Relative Dimension In Space, anywhere and anything and anytime is possible, from alien planets, to the end of the universe, to alternate realities and void space, to the nexus of time and space, onto a pirate ship in the middle ages, crashing through Hitler's window, getting in a car chase, famous locales around the Earth, a planet-sized library, an asylum for the most dangerous race ever created, an early episode set in an antimatter universe, a bubble universe where time machines go to die, pocket dimensions that should not exist, and places far more exciting than this humdrum list.
 
2013-05-04 09:44:36 PM  

angrymacface: t3knomanser: Also, when the Doctor was acting... ahem...  woodenly, did anyone else feel like they were watching Peter Davidson? I suspect it was intentional, since they made a callback to Teegan.

Every episode so far has had something that calls back to a previous Doctor, if only a reference or idea.

Rings of Akhaten: 1st Doctor - The Doctor mentions bringing Susan there long ago.
Cold War: 2nd Doctor - HADS and the Ice Warrior
Hide: 3rd Doctor - the crystal from Metebelis III
Journey to the Center of the Tardis: 4th Doctor - the interior of the Tardis (including the glimpse of the pool) and the Eye of Harmony


Journey to the Center of the TARDIS also had the Seventh Doctor's umbrella.
 
2013-05-04 09:46:31 PM  

NeoCortex42: On a BBC America-related note, I just caught up on Orphan Black this past week. Pretty damn good show. Hopefully the new cast member that showed up in tonight's episode is around for a while.


I'm liking OB as well. Though I think it's weird that they seem to be trying to disguise the fact that it's shot in Canada, for some reason.
 
2013-05-04 09:46:49 PM  

t3knomanser: Also, when the Doctor was acting... ahem...  woodenly, did anyone else feel like they were watching Peter Davidson? I suspect it was intentional, since they made a callback to Teegan.


I missed the Teegan reference.  What was it?
 
2013-05-04 09:48:15 PM  

Jocundry: t3knomanser: Also, when the Doctor was acting... ahem...  woodenly, did anyone else feel like they were watching Peter Davidson? I suspect it was intentional, since they made a callback to Teegan.

I missed the Teegan reference.  What was it?


The Doctor mentions how he spent quite a while trying to get a gobby Australian to Heathrow airport.
 
2013-05-04 09:49:31 PM  

Great Janitor: angrymacface: t3knomanser: Also, when the Doctor was acting... ahem...  woodenly, did anyone else feel like they were watching Peter Davidson? I suspect it was intentional, since they made a callback to Teegan.

Every episode so far has had something that calls back to a previous Doctor, if only a reference or idea.

Rings of Akhaten: 1st Doctor - The Doctor mentions bringing Susan there long ago.
Cold War: 2nd Doctor - HADS and the Ice Warrior
Hide: 3rd Doctor - the crystal from Metebelis III
Journey to the Center of the Tardis: 4th Doctor - the interior of the Tardis (including the glimpse of the pool) and the Eye of Harmony

Journey to the Center of the TARDIS also had the Seventh Doctor's umbrella.


I enjoyed the episode, first time I've seen the library (must have taken a while to get the place dry), but what I wanted to see was a copy of the very first console, with the food replicator and random doohickeys
 
2013-05-04 09:52:34 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Jocundry: t3knomanser: Also, when the Doctor was acting... ahem...  woodenly, did anyone else feel like they were watching Peter Davidson? I suspect it was intentional, since they made a callback to Teegan.

I missed the Teegan reference.  What was it?

The Doctor mentions how he spent quite a while trying to get a gobby Australian to Heathrow airport.


Also, "Brave heart Clara."  is a reference to "Brave heat Tegan."
 
2013-05-04 09:53:04 PM  
Good episode, probably the best Mark Gatiss episode, not that that's a particularly high bar.
I'm looking forward to next week with the kids traveling in the Tardis, and it'll be interesting when Clara starts asking questions about the photo of other Clara.
 
2013-05-04 09:53:29 PM  

Jocundry: I missed the Teegan reference.  What was it?


He talks about his problems getting someone back to Australia, and then says "Brave heart, Clara"
 
2013-05-04 09:54:48 PM  

Great Janitor: Journey to the Center of the TARDIS also had the Seventh Doctor's umbrella.


No, that was the one that Matt Smith has been using. He had it in "Hide". You can tell it's not Seven's because the handle wasn't in the shape of a question mark.
 
2013-05-04 10:06:30 PM  

angrymacface: handle wasn't in the shape of a question mark.


Any Dr Who novelty stores that sell such a thing, BTW? Reckon it wouldn't be hard to make, though, and cool to have, even if it's not a sonic screwdriver
 
2013-05-04 10:06:42 PM  

rynthetyn: Good episode, probably the best Mark Gatiss episode, not that that's a particularly high bar.
I'm looking forward to next week with the kids traveling in the Tardis, and it'll be interesting when Clara starts asking questions about the photo of other Clara.


Given that the season is coming to an end, we need that explained.  I am hoping the answer is not Clara having died in "The Snowmen" and the one we see now is the past unexperienced Clara.  But, if it is, then my theory holds:  "She's captured in the future by Daleks, converted into one, doesn't realize she is one via her fantasy land escape, manages to transfer her consciousness into the Dalek command network (we saw her use it expertly), use their technology to clone herself a new body (Daleks can convert people into Daleks, so it's not unreasonable to assume they could genetically engineer other beings), put herself into the new body (the audio play series 'Dalek Empire' had the Dalek Emperor transfer himself into the mind of a woman for safe keeping and then when the Daleks chose to extract the Emperor the refused and chose amalgamation instead)  and then drop herself off into the past (Classic Who showed the Daleks with time travel).  That being said, I'll be disappointed if that's how it is explained.
 
2013-05-04 10:13:11 PM  

angrymacface: t3knomanser: Also, when the Doctor was acting... ahem...  woodenly, did anyone else feel like they were watching Peter Davidson? I suspect it was intentional, since they made a callback to Teegan.

Every episode so far has had something that calls back to a previous Doctor, if only a reference or idea.

Rings of Akhaten: 1st Doctor - The Doctor mentions bringing Susan there long ago.
Cold War: 2nd Doctor - HADS and the Ice Warrior
Hide: 3rd Doctor - the crystal from Metebelis III
Journey to the Center of the Tardis: 4th Doctor - the interior of the Tardis (including the glimpse of the pool) and the Eye of Harmony


If this pattern holds up I can still have hope for Paul McGann showing up for the 50th Anniversary special.

Seriously just do it BBC, McGann seriously needs another filmed appearance, and Rose and clone 10 just isn't going to do it for guest appearances, you can't even call that a multi-Doctor episode.
 
2013-05-04 10:17:55 PM  

t3knomanser: I hadn't noticed that they're counting up. Since the next episode is at an amusement park, I'm going to guess that we'll see a motley coat that evokes the 6th doctor's, but that might be a bit too on the nose- watch out for something that evokes the cat pin.


Hm, with this being a Neil Gaiman episode, I wouldn't be surprised if they go the cat pin route.
 
2013-05-04 10:23:47 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!

Thomas Thomas gives directions.

Tom Tom is a GPS device.


That explains it then. I've never had a gps, and haven't owned a car since 2005
 
2013-05-04 10:33:43 PM  

NeoCortex42: mikieb: dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!

I didn't get it until someone said they had a Garmin. It's a reference to TomTom, the GPS system. I don't know if they even still make them.

I think they still make them.

My TomTom is voiced by BRIAN BLESSED. It makes every drive epic.


I thought you were kidding, but I did a google search and yes, it's real. I wonder if I can get it for my google maps app on my iphone. BRIAN BLESSED makes everything epic. The voice upgrade was in UK pounds only, so I don't know if I can even get it here in the states.
 
2013-05-04 10:35:20 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [img.gawkerassets.com image 320x351]


i6.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-04 10:35:44 PM  

dopekitty74: FirstNationalBastard: dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!

Thomas Thomas gives directions.

Tom Tom is a GPS device.

That explains it then. I've never had a gps, and haven't owned a car since 2005


From what I remember/google, TomTom also no longer manufactures devices.  So it's not unexpected that it would whoosh over your head.
 
2013-05-04 11:04:46 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Thomas Thomas gives directions.

Tom Tom is a GPS device.


And this is the problem with this entire season. The writers work so hard to show how clever they are, and forget to just write interesting stories.
 
2013-05-04 11:11:46 PM  

Hebalo: FirstNationalBastard: Thomas Thomas gives directions.

Tom Tom is a GPS device.

And this is the problem with this entire season. The writers work so hard to show how clever they are, and forget to just write interesting stories.


And it's not even that clever, either.
 
2013-05-04 11:13:35 PM  

melewen: Hebalo: FirstNationalBastard: Thomas Thomas gives directions.

Tom Tom is a GPS device.

And this is the problem with this entire season. The writers work so hard to show how clever they are, and forget to just write interesting stories.

And it's not even that clever, either.


Exactly. Trying to be clever is a form of stage fright. They're afraid their ideas aren't good enough, so they try to please the fanboys with references and gimmicks, instead of just telling a good story.
 
2013-05-04 11:15:58 PM  

Great Janitor: I also had to explain to my wife the Tegan reference at the start.


Missed that one....

/explain?
 
2013-05-04 11:24:10 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Great Janitor: I also had to explain to my wife the Tegan reference at the start.

Missed that one....

/explain?


I guess I could have read the whole thread....
 
2013-05-04 11:24:47 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: ArcadianRefugee: Great Janitor: I also had to explain to my wife the Tegan reference at the start.

Missed that one....

/explain?

I guess I could have read the whole thread....


Brave heart...
 
2013-05-04 11:29:35 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Great Janitor: I also had to explain to my wife the Tegan reference at the start.

Missed that one....

/explain?


The Brave heart Clara line, as well as getting the Australian to the airport.
 
2013-05-04 11:44:35 PM  
This Doctor sure has a thing for Jenny (who can blame him) when they met up with the "supermodels" he's pointing his Sonic at them, but then Jenny rips off her clothes to revel a very skintight outfit he stares at her and his Sonic then points straight up in the air. Very cheeky.

Not sure about the kids in next week episode but looking forward to the Cybermen and how the Doctor will act if she get's a chance to bring up the picture of the other Clara.
 
2013-05-05 12:18:41 AM  

dennysgod: This Doctor sure has a thing for Jenny (who can blame him) when they met up with the "supermodels" he's pointing his Sonic at them, but then Jenny rips off her clothes to revel a very skintight outfit he stares at her and his Sonic then points straight up in the air. Very cheeky.


I rather liked that she slapped him but good when he snogged her. This iteration of The Doctor has been snogging his companions willy nilly whether they want it or not, and he's been asking to be smacked.
 
2013-05-05 12:24:15 AM  
Okay, Orphan Black watchers, that neolution dude on tonight's episode? I can't be the only one who thought he's a dead ringer for the illustrious governor of Florida, Rick Scott, can I?
 
2013-05-05 12:41:12 AM  

rynthetyn: Okay, Orphan Black watchers, that neolution dude on tonight's episode? I can't be the only one who thought he's a dead ringer for the illustrious governor of Florida, Rick Scott, can I?


Max Headroom
 
2013-05-05 12:56:38 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: crotchgrabber: Metalupis: crotchgrabber: Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?

If possible start with the begining of the new series, Christopher Eckleston (spelling may be off there) made a great Doctor

Thanks! Is that the 2005 season?
It is on Netflix streaming, but be careful you don't choose the classic episodes by mistake. Not that there is anything wrong with them-outside of a low budget.

But if you're curious, do check out the First Doctors episode The Aztecs.


I watched those.   Meh.   I liked the Doctor as a sort of novelty, like "Oh, this was the first Doctor" kind of thing, but jesus.  The writing man.
 
2013-05-05 01:11:29 AM  

Third Day Mark: I watched those. Meh. I liked the Doctor as a sort of novelty, like "Oh, this was the first Doctor" kind of thing, but jesus. The writing man.


Remember that Who started off as a kids' show*. I mean, really a kids' show. There was no "kids' show with snuck-in bits for adults" like a lot of today's kids' shows. So, yeah, the writing was rather lame.

/as Wikipedia puts it, "The programme was originally intended to appeal to a family audience...." Same thing.
 
2013-05-05 01:59:22 AM  

mikieb: NeoCortex42: mikieb: dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!

I didn't get it until someone said they had a Garmin. It's a reference to TomTom, the GPS system. I don't know if they even still make them.

I think they still make them.

My TomTom is voiced by BRIAN BLESSED. It makes every drive epic.

I thought you were kidding, but I did a google search and yes, it's real. I wonder if I can get it for my google maps app on my iphone. BRIAN BLESSED makes everything epic. The voice upgrade was in UK pounds only, so I don't know if I can even get it here in the states.


I've got Eddie Izzard on my old Tom Tom, although the maps are so out of date now I just use my phone.
 
2013-05-05 02:05:56 AM  

fusillade762: NeoCortex42: On a BBC America-related note, I just caught up on Orphan Black this past week. Pretty damn good show. Hopefully the new cast member that showed up in tonight's episode is around for a while.

I'm liking OB as well. Though I think it's weird that they seem to be trying to disguise the fact that it's shot in Canada, for some reason.


They have been pretty open about the show being set in Toronto. The plates on the cars are Ontario, and Sarah's big stack of cash was Canadian. They just haven't been going out of their way to point it out in the story the way Continuum showcases its Vancouver location.
 
2013-05-05 02:08:58 AM  
Cosima's segments are being pointed out as being in Minneapolis, however, to establish her scenes are in another city, I will add.
 
2013-05-05 02:56:04 AM  

OniExpress: dopekitty74: FirstNationalBastard: dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!

Thomas Thomas gives directions.

Tom Tom is a GPS device.

That explains it then. I've never had a gps, and haven't owned a car since 2005

From what I remember/google, TomTom also no longer manufactures devices.  So it's not unexpected that it would whoosh over your head.


Nope, TomTom is still going. They're a lot bigger in the EU than the states though.
 
2013-05-05 03:09:07 AM  

crotchgrabber: Just from seeing the threads about Dr Who and hearing some people talk it up I'm quite intrigued. But I have never seen one minute of the show. Ever. How, and where should I start?


With nearly 50 years of history you can jump in anywhere and be just as confused as the rest of us.
 
2013-05-05 03:09:50 AM  

whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.


I saw the Tom-Tom joke walking up the street and realized I'd reached my destination.
 
2013-05-05 03:16:40 AM  
Turned into a bit of a taco fiesta towards the climax. Nothing wrong with that. Just find something peculiar about it.

I like seeing Vastra, Jenny, and Strax in these one-off gigs. Once a season works for me (okay, and a Xmas Special). If they just get one more character and another appearance or two I think BBC would have a legitimate potential spinoff on their hands. Just develop the characters and their dynamics a little bit more and the work is already done with establishing them.

Crazy idea time. Imagine a series like Sarah Jane Adventures, but it's more of an anthology show in which week after week you get different adventures with the various popular, breakout characters as well as past companions and even villains of Doctor Who but without The Doctor? One week it's The Victorian Trio, another it's River Song. The next The Ponds return for a one-off, and then it's off to see a story in which The Doctor is not there to stop the Cybermen. We catch up with Craig Owens and Stormageddon and then we conclude with an adventure with Captain Jack. That's six episodes right there. Sets can be reused and shows can be shot simultaneously cutting down production time.

Alternative, crazy idea: imagine if that set of episodes - six in all from my brainstorm there - were woven into the show proper? Every three episodes you get a break from The Doctor and meet old friends who get to step out of his shadow. And you get 50% more DW by the end of it all.

Like I said - crazy idea. But it could be fun.
 
2013-05-05 03:22:55 AM  
The toy on the bench in the kid's home was the transformer Galvatron.  What is a 1985 toy doing in a 2013 home?
 
2013-05-05 04:23:17 AM  
Kids in the TARDIS? I've been fine with most of Moffat's decisions until now. thisisanoutrage.jpg
 
2013-05-05 04:38:00 AM  

magneticmushroom: Kids in the TARDIS? I've been fine with most of Moffat's decisions until now. thisisanoutrage.jpg


I'm hoping that it was required because Neil Gaiman wanted them there in his story, and then they disappear the next episode.
 
2013-05-05 07:23:58 AM  

mikieb: NeoCortex42: mikieb: dopekitty74: whyaduck: Wow. I am dense. I just got the Thomas joke too. But in my defense I own a Garmin.

Sigh, everyone else seems to be getting it, but I don't....

Help!

I didn't get it until someone said they had a Garmin. It's a reference to TomTom, the GPS system. I don't know if they even still make them.

I think they still make them.

My TomTom is voiced by BRIAN BLESSED. It makes every drive epic.

I thought you were kidding, but I did a google search and yes, it's real. I wonder if I can get it for my google maps app on my iphone. BRIAN BLESSED makes everything epic. The voice upgrade was in UK pounds only, so I don't know if I can even get it here in the states.


I'm in the states and had no problem buying the voice pack.
 
2013-05-05 08:42:26 AM  

Mad_Radhu: magneticmushroom: Kids in the TARDIS? I've been fine with most of Moffat's decisions until now. thisisanoutrage.jpg

I'm hoping that it was required because Neil Gaiman wanted them there in his story, and then they disappear the next episode.


I hope that's the case.  The kids don't even have a good threat.  "We'll tell dad you're a time traveler."
"Well I'll point out that's crazy."
 
2013-05-05 08:48:05 AM  

rynthetyn: dennysgod: This Doctor sure has a thing for Jenny (who can blame him) when they met up with the "supermodels" he's pointing his Sonic at them, but then Jenny rips off her clothes to revel a very skintight outfit he stares at her and his Sonic then points straight up in the air. Very cheeky.

I rather liked that she slapped him but good when he snogged her. This iteration of The Doctor has been snogging his companions willy nilly whether they want it or not, and he's been asking to be smacked.


They missed the obvious rejoiner: "Doctor! Please! I'm a married woman!"
 
2013-05-05 09:22:04 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: rynthetyn: dennysgod: This Doctor sure has a thing for Jenny (who can blame him) when they met up with the "supermodels" he's pointing his Sonic at them, but then Jenny rips off her clothes to revel a very skintight outfit he stares at her and his Sonic then points straight up in the air. Very cheeky.

I rather liked that she slapped him but good when he snogged her. This iteration of The Doctor has been snogging his companions willy nilly whether they want it or not, and he's been asking to be smacked.

They missed the obvious rejoiner: "Doctor! Please! I'm a married woman!"


 Hah.  That would have been a good bit.
 
2013-05-05 11:20:37 AM  

narkor: The toy on the bench in the kid's home was the transformer Galvatron.  What is a 1985 toy doing in a 2013 home?


People collect toys?
 
2013-05-05 12:04:10 PM  
Two (very minor) quibbles I had with the episode:

1) Too much Doctor and Clara; this episode would have been quite a bit better if the Doctor had been rescued in the last 10 minutes (or less), and it was Lizard, Cat and Potato who solved it and rescued the Doctor and Clara at the end.

2) The picture from the Submarine being found online. That seems way too convenient  the Ghost Hunters I can (somewhat) forgive, being both from England which was somewhat more free than the USSR in the 1980's and somewhat off the books rather than official government business. But having that picture from the sub online doesn't fit well with me.

Other than that, I quite enjoyed the episode.
 
2013-05-05 12:08:56 PM  

narkor: The toy on the bench in the kid's home was the transformer Galvatron.  What is a 1985 toy doing in a 2013 home?


Two Christmases ago my mom found a Christmas present she bought me in the 80's but lost. She gave it to my 5 year old nephew. It was Slag, the Triceratops Dinobot.

/In the original packaging, still sealed.
//I almost cried when I saw him bashing it into the couch, knowing how much it might have been worth.
 
2013-05-05 12:45:05 PM  
I quite enjoyed this weeks adventure.  I liked that a significant chunk didn't include The Doctor or Companion, but I don't think there was too much of them - the show is Doctor Who after all.  The story flowed well, and everything came together rather nicely at the end, and then the epilogue leading into next week- I think this is the first time this season where I have both thoroughly enjoyed an episode, and found the preview of the next one make me look forward to it..


Techhell: narkor: The toy on the bench in the kid's home was the transformer Galvatron. What is a 1985 toy doing in a 2013 home?

Two Christmases ago my mom found a Christmas present she bought me in the 80's but lost. She gave it to my 5 year old nephew. It was Slag, the Triceratops Dinobot.

/In the original packaging, still sealed.
//I almost cried when I saw him bashing it into the couch, knowing how much it might have been worth.


That's horrifying.

/I'd have opened it to play with it too, but I'd have done so with the appropriate appreciation
 
2013-05-05 01:02:57 PM  
So, am I nuts or was Rory in the lineup of preserved people? Cause that's just awesome.
 
2013-05-05 01:12:52 PM  
Definitely the best of the season thus far. I'd love to be in the middle of a Clara-Jenny sammich.
 
2013-05-05 01:13:56 PM  

Apos: Definitely the best episode of the season thus far. I'd love to be in the middle of a Clara-Jenny sammich.



Fixed.
 
2013-05-05 01:16:16 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: ArcadianRefugee: Missed that one....

/explain?

I guess I could have read the whole thread....


Console yourself that you didn't waste a few hours trying to recall if Ben and/or Polly were Australian.
 
2013-05-05 02:04:11 PM  

narkor: The toy on the bench in the kid's home was the transformer Galvatron.  What is a 1985 toy doing in a 2013 home?


My wife is a big Star Wars fan (her mom unloaded her collectibles when she left for college). She mentioned that she loved the one-shot guy who got his arm cut off in the cantina. One year, I found the doll in a collectible "modern antique" store and got it for her as one of her birthday gifts,
 
2013-05-05 05:10:29 PM  

StopLurkListen: My six year old really loves the show. I'm conflicted. How can I enjoy something my little kidlet thinks is "cool"?

//just turning the usual parent-child dynamic on it's head
//loved the video of Strax's visit to the school


It's a kid show, but if you let you a 6 year old watch Doctor Who you are

StopLurkListen: My six year old really loves the show. I'm conflicted. How can I enjoy something my little kidlet thinks is "cool"?

//just turning the usual parent-child dynamic on it's head
//loved the video of Strax's visit to the school


Isn't that a bit young? I remember when I first saw Doctor Who I was 9 or so and it scared the hell out of me, and that was the cheesy series with Peter Davison.
 
2013-05-05 08:39:10 PM  
I'm getting pretty tired of the episodes not having anything to do with the whole mystery of who Clara is only to shoehorn in a few lines in the denouement (sp?) to get us to watch next week. They missed or intentionally sidestepped the chance to have some real development on that front with Jenny Vastra and Strax meeting new Clara. Instead we get the teaser at the end to whet our appetites but I get the feeling we will be disappointed again next week.
 
2013-05-05 11:18:29 PM  

bikkurikun: StopLurkListen: My six year old really loves the show. I'm conflicted. How can I enjoy something my little kidlet thinks is "cool"?

//just turning the usual parent-child dynamic on it's head
//loved the video of Strax's visit to the school

It's a kid show, but if you let you a 6 year old watch Doctor Who you are

Isn't that a bit young? I remember when I first saw Doctor Who I was 9 or so and it scared the hell out of me, and that was the cheesy series with Peter Davison.


Yeah, but each kid is different. The older kid was a lot more scared of these things when she was six, but younger sister who is now six isn't bothered at all. Some friends of ours all get together for a "family night" to watch on Doctor Who when it's on, and all their kids are about our kid's range.
 
2013-05-06 12:03:10 AM  

Mad_Radhu: They have been pretty open about the show being set in Toronto. The plates on the cars are Ontario, and Sarah's big stack of cash was Canadian. They just haven't been going out of their way to point it out in the story the way Continuum showcases its Vancouver location.


This week's episode had a character complaining about having to drive out to Scarberia, and they've mentioned Parkdale more than once.  The only problem I have is that the "University of Minnesota" is clearly UofT.

As for this week's Dr. Who, was I the only one who cringed when the rocket launched and they all managed to not get incinerated by the fire?
 
2013-05-06 12:22:14 AM  
Serial: The only problem I have is that the "University of Minnesota" is clearly UofT.

Eh, it happens due to budget. I live near Seattle, and for a while there we nicknamed the version that showed up on TV as "Seacouver" because shows like Dead Like Me,  Reaper, and John Doe were obviously filmed in Vancouver. With so many shows set here, it amazes me that Washington never got smart and figured out a way to make location filming in the Seattle area economically feasible for studios since it is only two hours away from so much film and TV production.
 
2013-05-06 12:55:12 AM  

Serial: As for this week's Dr. Who, was I the only one who cringed when the rocket launched and they all managed to not get incinerated by the fire?


No, you were not.
 
2013-05-06 02:28:22 AM  

Serial: Mad_Radhu: They have been pretty open about the show being set in Toronto. The plates on the cars are Ontario, and Sarah's big stack of cash was Canadian. They just haven't been going out of their way to point it out in the story the way Continuum showcases its Vancouver location.

This week's episode had a character complaining about having to drive out to Scarberia, and they've mentioned Parkdale more than once.  The only problem I have is that the "University of Minnesota" is clearly UofT.


What's been confusing me is that Sarah has this strong British accent that don't really make sense for someone raised in the foster care system in some country outside of the UK.
 
2013-05-06 04:43:05 AM  

Jorn the Younger: Serial: As for this week's Dr. Who, was I the only one who cringed when the rocket launched and they all managed to not get incinerated by the fire?

No, you were not.


Because they showed it was in the chimney, in the distance, out the window from the room they were all standing in.
 
2013-05-06 04:44:30 AM  

scalpod: Jorn the Younger: Serial: As for this week's Dr. Who, was I the only one who cringed when the rocket launched and they all managed to not get incinerated by the fire?

No, you were not.

Because they showed it was in the chimney, in the distance, out the window from the room they were all standing in.


Okay, maybe they'd moved over to the chimney launch pad, but really - who cares at this point?
 
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