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(Time)   Author investigates why Iron Man is so much cooler than Thor and Captain America. If you guessed because of Robert Downey Jr, step up and claim your prize   (entertainment.time.com) divider line 8
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2013-05-04 04:43:26 PM  
4 votes:

mark12A: Tony Stark is the uber-Engineer. He is worshiped by us engineers because that's exactly what most of us engineers think of ourselves. With money and no interference from the government weasels, we could permanently fix ALL of the world's problems, no sweat. Fark diplomacy, fark navel gazing about  feelings and rights and cultural legitimacy and all that other crap. Build nukes for power, build dams for agriculture, build kick ass weapon systems and use them to exterminate bad guys once and for all, etc. If we could just get these goddamm Harvard/Yale/etc. policy wonks and their theories out of the farking way, we could get things DONE and SETTLED.

Step one: nuke the farkin' middle east into a glassified parking lot and put them out of our misery. Just do it. Those barbarians are a lost cause. NOTHING will be lost by removing them from existence. Nothing.

And then proceed from there. All of this planet's material issues are easily solvable once you get the goddam politicians out of the way. Energy is not a proble. Food is not a problem. Politicians trying to steer the bus are the problem.

/whew
//that felt good


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2013-05-04 06:47:55 PM  
3 votes:

theurge14: Cool story, mad scientist bro.


Mad engineer.
static.neatorama.com
2013-05-05 12:32:31 AM  
1 votes:
I haven't watched the Captain America movie, but I know who could have played Iron Man in the silent era...

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2013-05-04 09:48:14 PM  
1 votes:

brantgoose: Whether you are a conservative or a liberal, the type of person who thinks that the solution to all the world's problems is easy and that they alone see it, is the scariest and most dangerous type of person going.

Engineers have a statistically significant tendancy to be Fascists or Communists above the mean of every profession except for Physicians (even lawyers don't come close, possibly because they learn how falliable and stupid people are). Like the Professor in The Secret Agent, they think everybody else is a fool or a scoundrel and despise the masses of mankind for letting fools and scoundrels lead them.

They buy into conspiracy theories that even their technical expertise should easily show to be nonsense.

They believe that human problems and solutions can be reduced to the clear simple problems and solutions of engineering, mathematics, or the hard sciences. They are ignorant or dismissive the the humanities and arts. They despise religion and philosophy. They treat humans as things and "solve" them in terms of mechanics or physics.

They fail to realise that the world is far more chaotic and complex than their own narrow speciality. They fail to understand that the skills and aptitutudes of medicine, engineering, science or mathematics do not transfer readily to politics, sociology or psychology.

On the first day of classes at any university, some of the professors give the "we're not filling you with facts and numbers, we will teach you to think" speech. This is given to engineering classes and to humanity classes alike. Only the engineers are naive and dumb enough to believe it. That's one of several reasons why a study funded by a major bank and a major employer of engineers found that after 15 years at work, liberal arts students were better paid and had more responsible positions than students with Commerce or Engineering degrees. The other is that engineers and commerce students are really poor communicators and lack basic language skills.

I always say that the way to tell an engineer is smarter than his peers is that he is taking courses in English or History. The smart ones realize that they are missing something important, that there is something they need to become managers rather than just boobs in Sector 7G of the research and development department. The smart ones realize that they did not get the keys to the secrets of the Universe in their engineering or math classes.

The really really psychotic dumb ones (who may be extra-smart, of course) don't ever clue in. They think they can be engineers of human souls and lives. They are like Lucifer, the Second in Command of God, and the brightest thing in the sky after the Sun, proud in their ignorance of what it really takes to run the universe.

The Devil is an Ass, says the title of one of Ben Johnson's plays. Boy, is he ever! He thinks he knows better than God, who pulled order out of chaos and old night.

Human problems are intractible. They can not be solved with engineering. Trying to engineer people is one of the problems, not one of the solutions. Engineers are jack asses, especially computer software and hardware engineers. They can't write a manual for people who are ten times smarter than they are, and it takes ten times the wit and skill of that to write clearly and meaningfully for people who are dumber than you are, just as it takes a lot more time to write a five minute speech than a fifty minute speech.

Bugger off. Leave the human race alone. Just look at the damage that you've done with your engineering already. Soul-crushing machinery, buildings, civic plans, and political agendas that will be in Beta forever because they are complete and utter kludge and wouldn't work even if they were optimized because they are wrong-headed to start with.

A genuine conservative and a genuine liberal are brothers-in-arms next to an average engineer, much less a sociopathic one.

Take a look at a Brutalist building, a parking lot, or a shopping mall and remember that somebody once thought that would not only make life better for people, but make better people.

Consider that Frank Llyod Wright, a great architect was a very short man--and build buildings with ceilings that were comfortable for him. Bauhaus, Wagner, and all the pretentiousness and folly of dogmatic modernism had more to do with the Nazis than Darwin did. That's just a creationist nutter hatchet-job. It was German art and politics that did the harm, not subvervsive Jews or homosexuals or liberals or scientists.

Nietzsche managed to pass through Wagner and come out the other side. Insane, yes, but not stupid. His biotch sister married and Nazi and ran off to Argentina in the end, taking his reputation with her.

If you want to engineer human souls, you have to think on a Divine or geological scale. You can't do it in your lifetime, pissant. And even if you are Lucifer, fark you! God obviously had a reason to prefer humans to angels, because he made you angels bow down to us, not the other way round.

Man is not made for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath is made for Man. If only engineers and architects and other fools of that ilk would realize this and stop trying to fit us into their damn little boxes instead of outfitting us for life, the universe and everything like the poets, mystics, musicians and philosophers have tried to do.


goddamn that's a bigger wall of text than some war memorials.
2013-05-04 08:02:24 PM  
1 votes:

Without Fail: mark12A: Tony Stark is the uber-Engineer. He is worshiped by us engineers because that's exactly what most of us engineers think of ourselves. With money and no interference from the government weasels, we could permanently fix ALL of the world's problems, no sweat. Fark diplomacy, fark navel gazing about  feelings and rights and cultural legitimacy and all that other crap. Build nukes for power, build dams for agriculture, build kick ass weapon systems and use them to exterminate bad guys once and for all, etc. If we could just get these goddamm Harvard/Yale/etc. policy wonks and their theories out of the farking way, we could get things DONE and SETTLED.

Step one: nuke the farkin' middle east into a glassified parking lot and put them out of our misery. Just do it. Those barbarians are a lost cause. NOTHING will be lost by removing them from existence. Nothing.

And then proceed from there. All of this planet's material issues are easily solvable once you get the goddam politicians out of the way. Energy is not a proble. Food is not a problem. Politicians trying to steer the bus are the problem.

/whew
//that felt good

This is why engineers have never been in charge. They are technically adept children.


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2013-05-04 05:40:10 PM  
1 votes:

mark12A: Tony Stark is the uber-Engineer. He is worshiped by us engineers because that's exactly what most of us engineers think of ourselves. With money and no interference from the government weasels, we could permanently fix ALL of the world's problems, no sweat. Fark diplomacy, fark navel gazing about  feelings and rights and cultural legitimacy and all that other crap. Build nukes for power, build dams for agriculture, build kick ass weapon systems and use them to exterminate bad guys once and for all, etc. If we could just get these goddamm Harvard/Yale/etc. policy wonks and their theories out of the farking way, we could get things DONE and SETTLED.

Step one: nuke the farkin' middle east into a glassified parking lot and put them out of our misery. Just do it. Those barbarians are a lost cause. NOTHING will be lost by removing them from existence. Nothing.

And then proceed from there. All of this planet's material issues are easily solvable once you get the goddam politicians out of the way. Energy is not a proble. Food is not a problem. Politicians trying to steer the bus are the problem.

/whew
//that felt good


This is why engineers have never been in charge. They are technically adept children.
2013-05-04 04:30:55 PM  
1 votes:
Tony Stark is the uber-Engineer. He is worshiped by us engineers because that's exactly what most of us engineers think of ourselves. With money and no interference from the government weasels, we could permanently fix ALL of the world's problems, no sweat. Fark diplomacy, fark navel gazing about  feelings and rights and cultural legitimacy and all that other crap. Build nukes for power, build dams for agriculture, build kick ass weapon systems and use them to exterminate bad guys once and for all, etc. If we could just get these goddamm Harvard/Yale/etc. policy wonks and their theories out of the farking way, we could get things DONE and SETTLED.

Step one: nuke the farkin' middle east into a glassified parking lot and put them out of our misery. Just do it. Those barbarians are a lost cause. NOTHING will be lost by removing them from existence. Nothing.

And then proceed from there. All of this planet's material issues are easily solvable once you get the goddam politicians out of the way. Energy is not a proble. Food is not a problem. Politicians trying to steer the bus are the problem.

/whew
//that felt good
2013-05-04 01:39:17 PM  
1 votes:

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Any patriotic hero like Captain America just isn't exciting anymore, because innate in his character is the implication that non-American lives are less valuable than American ones. It's this weird American exceptionalism that is increasingly less and less relevant.

And Thor has a funny Danish accent.


There's nothing wrong with think your people are better.  As a matter of fact, every culture across the globe does the same exact thing.  The only difference is, they don't have douchebags apologizing for it.
 
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