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(AZCentral)   "My son was not a reckless person. He decided to try what he thought was acid"   (azcentral.com) divider line 24
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2013-05-04 10:57:47 AM
5 votes:
There's really nothing overly reckless about taking acid. Having someone give you something that's not LSD in its place, however....

/always trust your sources
2013-05-04 11:24:00 AM
4 votes:
And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.
2013-05-04 11:04:54 AM
4 votes:
Another illustration of the idiocy of the war on drugs.
2013-05-04 01:53:03 PM
2 votes:

houstondragon: I'm sure it's very sad for the mom to have lost her kid, but I'm probably a callous bastard for pointing out no tragedy occurred here.
Your kid was looking to get wasted, with an illegal and dangerous drug, and OD'd on one. Whether it was acid or LSD wasn't the issue, either could still have killed him.
Denial should remain in Egypt.


I put the incorrect part in bold for your browsing convenience.
2013-05-04 12:01:08 PM
2 votes:

Cyno01: Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.

Thats the thing, drugs you buy from a dealer are probably safe and of average potency, a dealer doesnt want to risk cutting their product with something dangerous and killing their customers, and conversely isnt going to give you anything laced with something more potent for free. Most of these synthetics are purchased at shady convenience stores that really dont give a fark and the formulation changes from week to week.


offmymeds: FarkinHostile: Kids nowadays. Why can't they just stick to dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid to get whacked like we did?

A doctor friend of mine recently told me that some folks are dipping their joints in formaldehyde.

Which is hilarious, because ACTUAL embalming fluid, formaldehyde, doesnt get you high, it just gives you cancer. Embalming fluid is a street name for liquid PCP, which is in no way similar to formaldehyde, but that hasnt stopped idiots from burglarizing mortuaries.


Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Regardless, I wouldn't dip my smoke in anything. Why ruin perfectly good weed?
2013-05-04 11:47:10 AM
2 votes:

LDM90: Krieghund: And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.

That's some strange logic there.


Not really.

Pot is an illegal drug in many states, yet it has no known overdoses. However it could be dangerous if someone decided to adulterate it with something else.

Hell, many people died back when some nutjob decided to adulterate Tylenol in retail stores then put it back on the shelves.

The point of getting drugs from a licensed pharmacist is that you are (hopefully) assured that the drugs you purchase are unadulterated and the dosage is correct.
2013-05-04 11:44:52 AM
2 votes:

Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.


Thats the thing, drugs you buy from a dealer are probably safe and of average potency, a dealer doesnt want to risk cutting their product with something dangerous and killing their customers, and conversely isnt going to give you anything laced with something more potent for free. Most of these synthetics are purchased at shady convenience stores that really dont give a fark and the formulation changes from week to week.


offmymeds: FarkinHostile: Kids nowadays. Why can't they just stick to dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid to get whacked like we did?

A doctor friend of mine recently told me that some folks are dipping their joints in formaldehyde.


Which is hilarious, because ACTUAL embalming fluid, formaldehyde, doesnt get you high, it just gives you cancer. Embalming fluid is a street name for liquid PCP, which is in no way similar to formaldehyde, but that hasnt stopped idiots from burglarizing mortuaries.
2013-05-04 11:17:03 AM
2 votes:
While I empathize with the mother, I have to say that if your son was putting unknown drugs in his body without knowing how he would react to them, he was reckless.
2013-05-04 11:07:15 AM
2 votes:
This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.
2013-05-04 08:01:04 AM
2 votes:
This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor
2013-05-04 03:48:27 PM
1 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor

your crazy i did 25i-NBoME and it was perfect.  literally.


Maybe you were fine, but many people experience major problems after taking 25x-NBOMe; people who have done many psychedelics prior without negative lasting side effects have reported major HPPD symptoms after taking them. Hell, the last time I bought acid IRL it was probably an NMBOMe of some sort. They were bitter, tongue numbing tabs. Trippy visuals existed but the experience was not thought provoking or euphoric. Had tracers in my vision for weeks afterwards. I hear that a lot of people aren't so lucky, and now have panic attacks whenever trying other psychedelics.

Remember kids: If you buy off the street, please have a reagent test on hand.
2013-05-04 02:44:11 PM
1 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com
2013-05-04 02:44:03 PM
1 votes:
"That is certainly a possibility, based on what witnesses are telling us - that either this drug is involved, some variant of that," said Sgt. Mark Clark, a Scottsdale police spokesman. "Certainly, when anyone becomes deceased from a possibility of any of these new drugs that are out there, we are obviously concerned."

Do cops go to some sort of obfuscation classes to learn to talk like this?
2013-05-04 01:37:16 PM
1 votes:
Not concerned enough to change the drug laws obviously.

/Should all be legal
//Not a libertarian
///Article the other day said antidrug stuff encouraged kids to try drugs
////50.5% of people in our prisons for drugs
////USA 25% has 25% of worlds prison population
////USA has 1/20 of worlds population
//But yea, for profit prisons, sounds like a great idea. Good thinking you farking asshats.
2013-05-04 01:26:44 PM
1 votes:
Why don't they just take acid?
2013-05-04 01:02:28 PM
1 votes:
wussies give psychedelics a bad name.
though not as bad a name as 'n-bomb'.

just say what it is, jesus christ most of us already know
which 2C-I derivative they're talkin bout.

one dead wussy, however
will not halt the necessary psychedelic revolution.


http://www.mediafire.com/?tuj7cjf3oq3oooi
2013-05-04 12:41:38 PM
1 votes:
Interesting times to grow up in.

These synthetics seem like something out of a bad movie.
2013-05-04 12:28:56 PM
1 votes:
Just grow your own shrooms
2013-05-04 12:21:05 PM
1 votes:
You just never know what people are going to put into shiat...

....but in 99.9% of the cases, the user did something really retarded.  I've done work with pharmaceutical related products before, and I cant tell you how many times we talked to government officials about somebody harming themselves with a product, relatives calling for the companies blood, only to reveal during a thorough investigation that the user took 20x the recommended dose, or took one of our (benign) products PLUS 10 pain killers, 3 hits of weed, and an 8-ball of cocaine, and had heroin needles in their pockets... but oh no, it MUST have been the medication!

/Read an interview transcript with one 15 year old in particular, who said "i just kept eating more and more of the pills to see what would happen".
//To see what would happen!
2013-05-04 12:19:45 PM
1 votes:

A Terrible Human: shiat like this is why you don't do research chemicals without knowing what the fark you're doing. I've never been brave enough to try some of the funkier rc's because the doses for some of them are hilariously tiny. Though I'd love to have some MXE.


MXE is a very interesting substance. There is a lot of hype about it being similar to ketamine but it should be used with more caution than ketamine. The "hole" experiences are very bizarre and may be inherently unpleasant for some people. It's almost like a combination of a k-hole and sleep paralysis and you won't have thoughts in the normal sense during such an experience. I don't really know how to describe it, but it's sort of like temporarily being in a purely experiential state, but that state is outside of the physical. Thoughts won't manifest in words, but only in sounds and images with emotions attached to them.
2013-05-04 11:58:29 AM
1 votes:

LDM90: That's some strange logic there.


That people who decide to ingest relatively safe chemical substances to get high should be able to purchase them in a well-regulated market so that they know what they're buying is strange logic? Seems perfectly rational to me. Or should people have to buy alcohol from a guy on the street corner which may or may not be methanol because some people don't approve of others getting drunk?
2013-05-04 11:32:25 AM
1 votes:

MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor


Not to mention hopped up town cops armed like paramilitary commandos, drug gangs in mexico running rampant, cash crops for the taliban / al quida..  I could go on. Fark this stupid pointless war on drugs and fark every stinking greedy union that lobbies to continue it.
2013-05-04 11:27:10 AM
1 votes:
I agree, this sounds FAR more dangerous than acid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwk6r8TJD2U
2013-05-04 09:04:12 AM
1 votes:
I have to enable javascript to read text? WTF?
 
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