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2013-05-04 07:41:00 AM
"Certainly, when anyone becomes deceased from a possibility of any of these new drugs that are out there, we are obviously concerned."

Maps, and such as.
 
2013-05-04 07:55:25 AM
I love quotes from people in shock who cannot think straight.  They're so funny.
 
2013-05-04 08:01:04 AM
This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor
 
2013-05-04 08:33:53 AM

MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor


your crazy i did 25i-NBoME and it was perfect.  literally.
 
2013-05-04 09:04:12 AM
I have to enable javascript to read text? WTF?
 
2013-05-04 10:57:47 AM
There's really nothing overly reckless about taking acid. Having someone give you something that's not LSD in its place, however....

/always trust your sources
 
2013-05-04 11:04:54 AM
Another illustration of the idiocy of the war on drugs.
 
2013-05-04 11:06:27 AM
cdn.mos.totalfilm.com

/Infiltrate the dealers, find the suppliers!
 
2013-05-04 11:06:32 AM
Wrong tag, Subs. Normally, I'd go for "Fail," but in this case the parent's statement makes me lean towards "Amusing."
 
2013-05-04 11:07:15 AM
This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.
 
2013-05-04 11:08:12 AM

MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.


legalize everything - let the market regulate itself Joe White (R) - Anystate.
 
2013-05-04 11:11:25 AM

Opeth1429: Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.


www.hansa-realty.com

"I know when my Vicodin isn't Vicodin. Do you know when your birth control isn't birth control?"
 
2013-05-04 11:13:31 AM

Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.


how do i know my Corona is Mexican piss
 
2013-05-04 11:15:17 AM
Kids nowadays. Why can't they just stick to dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid to get whacked like we did?
 
2013-05-04 11:17:03 AM
While I empathize with the mother, I have to say that if your son was putting unknown drugs in his body without knowing how he would react to them, he was reckless.
 
2013-05-04 11:17:48 AM
N-bomb?
I once accidentally dropped an n-bomb in a Hardee's on the south-side.  Barely got out with my life.
 
2013-05-04 11:18:33 AM

FarkinHostile: Kids nowadays. Why can't they just stick to dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid to get whacked like we did?


A doctor friend of mine recently told me that some folks are dipping their joints in formaldehyde.
 
2013-05-04 11:19:28 AM
But he will drink no more. For what he thought was H2SO4 was H2O? That doesn't rhyme...
 
2013-05-04 11:22:30 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-04 11:24:00 AM
And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.
 
2013-05-04 11:25:43 AM

poorjon: But he will drink no more. For what he thought was H2SO4 was H2O? That doesn't rhyme...


But he will drink no more.
For what he thought was H2O
Was H2SO4.

FTFY.
 
2013-05-04 11:26:27 AM

Krieghund: And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.


AMEN.
 
2013-05-04 11:27:10 AM
I agree, this sounds FAR more dangerous than acid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwk6r8TJD2U
 
2013-05-04 11:27:18 AM

Kevin72: Krieghund: And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.

AMEN.


why? it helps no one but ME.
 
2013-05-04 11:29:18 AM

Krieghund: And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.


That's some strange logic there.
 
2013-05-04 11:29:55 AM
Back when it was legal, it had a cute pharmaceutical name - "Delysid," I think.
 
2013-05-04 11:30:07 AM

Krieghund: And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.


Regulations like that will just take drug production out of the hands of mom and pop producers and give it to big pharmaceutical companies. Why do you hate small business?
 
2013-05-04 11:30:58 AM
24.media.tumblr.com

Not a winner.  No chicken dinner.
 
2013-05-04 11:32:25 AM

MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor


Not to mention hopped up town cops armed like paramilitary commandos, drug gangs in mexico running rampant, cash crops for the taliban / al quida..  I could go on. Fark this stupid pointless war on drugs and fark every stinking greedy union that lobbies to continue it.
 
2013-05-04 11:36:54 AM
Many have been the times when I tried what I thought was acid.  And I was right.

/Got nothin'.
 
2013-05-04 11:37:16 AM
 
2013-05-04 11:39:39 AM
shiat like this is why you don't do research chemicals without knowing what the fark you're doing. I've never been brave enough to try some of the funkier rc's because the doses for some of them are hilariously tiny. Though I'd love to have some MXE.
 
2013-05-04 11:44:04 AM
Sounds just like the synthetic drug they had in "Robocop 2".  Except they called it "Nuke" instead of "N-bomb".

cyberpunk.net.pl
"My plan is almost complete."
 
2013-05-04 11:44:52 AM

Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.


Thats the thing, drugs you buy from a dealer are probably safe and of average potency, a dealer doesnt want to risk cutting their product with something dangerous and killing their customers, and conversely isnt going to give you anything laced with something more potent for free. Most of these synthetics are purchased at shady convenience stores that really dont give a fark and the formulation changes from week to week.


offmymeds: FarkinHostile: Kids nowadays. Why can't they just stick to dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid to get whacked like we did?

A doctor friend of mine recently told me that some folks are dipping their joints in formaldehyde.


Which is hilarious, because ACTUAL embalming fluid, formaldehyde, doesnt get you high, it just gives you cancer. Embalming fluid is a street name for liquid PCP, which is in no way similar to formaldehyde, but that hasnt stopped idiots from burglarizing mortuaries.
 
2013-05-04 11:47:10 AM

LDM90: Krieghund: And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.

That's some strange logic there.


Not really.

Pot is an illegal drug in many states, yet it has no known overdoses. However it could be dangerous if someone decided to adulterate it with something else.

Hell, many people died back when some nutjob decided to adulterate Tylenol in retail stores then put it back on the shelves.

The point of getting drugs from a licensed pharmacist is that you are (hopefully) assured that the drugs you purchase are unadulterated and the dosage is correct.
 
2013-05-04 11:47:27 AM
I'm a free market guy

Legalize everything and set Evolution In Action™

/sort out the losers right quick
 
2013-05-04 11:54:16 AM
"Certainly, when anyone becomes deceased from a possibility of any of these new drugs that are out there, we are obviously concerned..."

...otherwise we're pretty much, "Pffft, whatever."
 
2013-05-04 11:56:50 AM
He did not die?  Damn.
 
2013-05-04 11:58:29 AM

LDM90: That's some strange logic there.


That people who decide to ingest relatively safe chemical substances to get high should be able to purchase them in a well-regulated market so that they know what they're buying is strange logic? Seems perfectly rational to me. Or should people have to buy alcohol from a guy on the street corner which may or may not be methanol because some people don't approve of others getting drunk?
 
2013-05-04 11:59:19 AM
As a negro who's looking for some magic plant that lets me rape white women, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2013-05-04 12:01:05 PM
altamontapparel.com

"Ya don't say!"
 
2013-05-04 12:01:08 PM

Cyno01: Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.

Thats the thing, drugs you buy from a dealer are probably safe and of average potency, a dealer doesnt want to risk cutting their product with something dangerous and killing their customers, and conversely isnt going to give you anything laced with something more potent for free. Most of these synthetics are purchased at shady convenience stores that really dont give a fark and the formulation changes from week to week.


offmymeds: FarkinHostile: Kids nowadays. Why can't they just stick to dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid to get whacked like we did?

A doctor friend of mine recently told me that some folks are dipping their joints in formaldehyde.

Which is hilarious, because ACTUAL embalming fluid, formaldehyde, doesnt get you high, it just gives you cancer. Embalming fluid is a street name for liquid PCP, which is in no way similar to formaldehyde, but that hasnt stopped idiots from burglarizing mortuaries.


Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Regardless, I wouldn't dip my smoke in anything. Why ruin perfectly good weed?
 
2013-05-04 12:01:22 PM

BullBearMS: LDM90: Krieghund: And this is why government regulation of pharmecuticals is so important. Because without if you have no idea what you are getting.

Legalize and regulate LSD.

That's some strange logic there.

Not really.

Pot is an illegal drug in many states, yet it has no known overdoses. However it could be dangerous if someone decided to adulterate it with something else.

Hell, many people died back when some nutjob decided to adulterate Tylenol in retail stores then put it back on the shelves.

The point of getting drugs from a licensed pharmacist is that you are (hopefully) assured that the drugs you purchase are unadulterated and the dosage is correct.


what's wrong with Silk Road
 
2013-05-04 12:07:17 PM

offmymeds: Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Regardless, I wouldn't dip my smoke in anything. Why ruin perfectly good weed?


so that you can upgrayydd to opiates and ruin your life with needles sleeping in the gutter. duh. pass that splif already.
 
2013-05-04 12:17:00 PM
So how's that 50 years of dope as a cultural pivot point working out, folks?
 
2013-05-04 12:19:45 PM

A Terrible Human: shiat like this is why you don't do research chemicals without knowing what the fark you're doing. I've never been brave enough to try some of the funkier rc's because the doses for some of them are hilariously tiny. Though I'd love to have some MXE.


MXE is a very interesting substance. There is a lot of hype about it being similar to ketamine but it should be used with more caution than ketamine. The "hole" experiences are very bizarre and may be inherently unpleasant for some people. It's almost like a combination of a k-hole and sleep paralysis and you won't have thoughts in the normal sense during such an experience. I don't really know how to describe it, but it's sort of like temporarily being in a purely experiential state, but that state is outside of the physical. Thoughts won't manifest in words, but only in sounds and images with emotions attached to them.
 
2013-05-04 12:21:05 PM
You just never know what people are going to put into shiat...

....but in 99.9% of the cases, the user did something really retarded.  I've done work with pharmaceutical related products before, and I cant tell you how many times we talked to government officials about somebody harming themselves with a product, relatives calling for the companies blood, only to reveal during a thorough investigation that the user took 20x the recommended dose, or took one of our (benign) products PLUS 10 pain killers, 3 hits of weed, and an 8-ball of cocaine, and had heroin needles in their pockets... but oh no, it MUST have been the medication!

/Read an interview transcript with one 15 year old in particular, who said "i just kept eating more and more of the pills to see what would happen".
//To see what would happen!
 
2013-05-04 12:23:39 PM

Cyno01: Thats the thing, drugs you buy from a dealer are probably safe and of average potency, a dealer doesnt want to risk cutting their product with something dangerous and killing their customers, and conversely isnt going to give you anything laced with something more potent for free. Most of these synthetics are purchased at shady convenience stores that really dont give a fark and the formulation changes from week to week.


Hardly.  These products are sold under brand names, by registered companies, with a clear paper trail.  The last thing they want to do is start killing customers.
 
2013-05-04 12:25:37 PM
the-void.co.uk
He probably learned it from BioShock. Thanks to that game, I always inject unknown glowing substances into my veins whenever I find them.
 
2013-05-04 12:26:13 PM

Alonjar: Cyno01: Thats the thing, drugs you buy from a dealer are probably safe and of average potency, a dealer doesnt want to risk cutting their product with something dangerous and killing their customers, and conversely isnt going to give you anything laced with something more potent for free. Most of these synthetics are purchased at shady convenience stores that really dont give a fark and the formulation changes from week to week.

Hardly.  These products are sold under brand names, by registered companies, with a clear paper trail.  The last thing they want to do is start killing customers.


But they do and they are.
 
2013-05-04 12:27:33 PM
it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small
 
2013-05-04 12:28:56 PM
Just grow your own shrooms
 
2013-05-04 12:32:30 PM

Walter Paisley: MXE is a very interesting substance. There is a lot of hype about it being similar to ketamine but it should be used with more caution than ketamine. The "hole" experiences are very bizarre and may be inherently unpleasant for some people. It's almost like a combination of a k-hole and sleep paralysis and you won't have thoughts in the normal sense during such an experience. I don't really know how to describe it, but it's sort of like temporarily being in a purely experiential state, but that state is outside of the physical. Thoughts won't manifest in words, but only in sounds and images with emotions attached to them.


Oh I know,I used to be able to get good quality MXE from my vendor before they stopped selling it. It was some magical shiat.
 
2013-05-04 12:36:25 PM
I'm confused is it called "n-bomb" or "n-bomb".
 
2013-05-04 12:37:51 PM

Mr.Tangent: I'm confused is it called "n-bomb" or "n-bomb".


Both.
 
2013-05-04 12:41:38 PM
Interesting times to grow up in.

These synthetics seem like something out of a bad movie.
 
2013-05-04 12:48:35 PM
blogs.villagevoice.com
You are reckless !
 
2013-05-04 12:52:42 PM
cannabisdestiny.com
 
2013-05-04 01:02:28 PM
wussies give psychedelics a bad name.
though not as bad a name as 'n-bomb'.

just say what it is, jesus christ most of us already know
which 2C-I derivative they're talkin bout.

one dead wussy, however
will not halt the necessary psychedelic revolution.


http://www.mediafire.com/?tuj7cjf3oq3oooi
 
2013-05-04 01:02:49 PM

jehovahs witness protection: I have to enable javascript to read text? WTF?


Yeah, is really lame.  I installed AdBlock Plus, enabled Element Hiding Rules under custom filters and then blocked "azcentral.com###requiredBg".
 
2013-05-04 01:11:39 PM
Apparently they require cookies to view their page.

/I'm sure I'm really missing out
 
2013-05-04 01:14:53 PM

Xyphoid: Apparently they require cookies to view their page.

/I'm sure I'm really missing out


They're in the same group as "You must register to view this page" news sites that just pull news from other sites.
 
2013-05-04 01:16:59 PM
POTENTIALLY USEFUL TRIVIA:Real LSD will effloresce under a black light.

\\\  Pays to check your stuff before you eat it.
 
2013-05-04 01:19:45 PM
known as "n-bomb,"

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-04 01:24:40 PM
Come on, who hasn't dropped the n-bomb once or twice in their life?
 
2013-05-04 01:26:43 PM
Zonker: "Whatever happened to grass?"

Duke: "Beats me, you can't even get arrested for it anymore."
 
2013-05-04 01:26:44 PM
Why don't they just take acid?
 
2013-05-04 01:30:41 PM
So the drug turns people into racists?
 
2013-05-04 01:32:24 PM

olddinosaur: POTENTIALLY USEFUL TRIVIA:Real LSD will effloresce under a black light.

\\\  Pays to check your stuff before you eat it.


What do you mean?
 
2013-05-04 01:37:16 PM
Not concerned enough to change the drug laws obviously.

/Should all be legal
//Not a libertarian
///Article the other day said antidrug stuff encouraged kids to try drugs
////50.5% of people in our prisons for drugs
////USA 25% has 25% of worlds prison population
////USA has 1/20 of worlds population
//But yea, for profit prisons, sounds like a great idea. Good thinking you farking asshats.
 
2013-05-04 01:38:00 PM
farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2013-05-04 01:38:21 PM
I'm sure it's very sad for the mom to have lost her kid, but I'm probably a callous bastard for pointing out no tragedy occurred here.

Your kid was looking to get wasted, with an illegal and dangerous drug, and OD'd on one. Whether it was acid or LSD wasn't the issue, either could still have killed him.

Denial should remain in Egypt.
 
2013-05-04 01:49:18 PM

doctor_sbaits0: Why don't they just take acid?


they're not bigtime operators, bro.
 
2013-05-04 01:52:14 PM

Dinjiin: jehovahs witness protection: I have to enable javascript to read text? WTF?

Yeah, is really lame.  I installed AdBlock Plus, enabled Element Hiding Rules under custom filters and then blocked "azcentral.com###requiredBg".


For some reason, I couldn't figure out how to manage that in the Adblock Plus settings, but there is a separate extension called Element Hiding Helper for Adblock Plus that makes it easy.
 
2013-05-04 01:53:03 PM

houstondragon: I'm sure it's very sad for the mom to have lost her kid, but I'm probably a callous bastard for pointing out no tragedy occurred here.
Your kid was looking to get wasted, with an illegal and dangerous drug, and OD'd on one. Whether it was acid or LSD wasn't the issue, either could still have killed him.
Denial should remain in Egypt.


I put the incorrect part in bold for your browsing convenience.
 
2013-05-04 02:05:39 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small


This might be true were it not for the fact that, generally speaking, no two people have the exact same physiological/metabolic processes.  What may be "safe" for you might not work out so well for someone else. e.g.: Some people can tolerate opioid painkillers just fine (when taken as prescribed), while on the other hand, it could make someone else with an allergy to opioids very sick.
 
2013-05-04 02:27:39 PM

davynelson: wussies give psychedelics a bad name.
though not as bad a name as 'n-bomb'.

just say what it is, jesus christ most of us already know
which 2C-I derivative they're talkin bout.

one dead wussy, however
will not halt the necessary psychedelic revolution.


http://www.mediafire.com/?tuj7cjf3oq3oooi


How is it a revolution? People been using psychedlics for hundreds if not thousands of years.

trippin balls is not a new thing by any stretch.

everyone needs atleast a couple good acid trips in their lifetime. Helps fix attitude and ego problems.

imagine if someone dosed mitt romney with a couple hits of liquid acid
 
2013-05-04 02:30:11 PM
Acid?

Billy was a chemist's son, but now he is no more. What he thought was H2O was H2SO4.
 
2013-05-04 02:34:42 PM

duffblue: olddinosaur: POTENTIALLY USEFUL TRIVIA:Real LSD will effloresce under a black light.

\\\  Pays to check your stuff before you eat it.

What do you mean?


What I mean is, put the suspect item under a black light and wee if it glows, before you ingest it.  It also pay to buy your acid on gelatin ("window pane") or a sheet of blotter paper, because fewer contaminants will be ingested this way.
 
2013-05-04 02:36:00 PM
Oops! I meant "see" if it glows.
 
2013-05-04 02:39:02 PM

olddinosaur: What I mean is, put the suspect item under a black light and wee if it glows, before you ingest it. It also pay to buy your acid on gelatin ("window pane") or a sheet of blotter paper, because fewer contaminants will be ingested this way.


Because you're just so dang happy it's not bunk sh*t, I presume.
 
2013-05-04 02:39:31 PM

Djembe: Zonker: "Whatever happened to grass?"

Duke: "Beats me, you can't even get arrested for it anymore."


Good one!
 
2013-05-04 02:40:56 PM

olddinosaur: Oops! I meant "see" if it glows.


Ah, now I wee.
 
2013-05-04 02:44:03 PM
"That is certainly a possibility, based on what witnesses are telling us - that either this drug is involved, some variant of that," said Sgt. Mark Clark, a Scottsdale police spokesman. "Certainly, when anyone becomes deceased from a possibility of any of these new drugs that are out there, we are obviously concerned."

Do cops go to some sort of obfuscation classes to learn to talk like this?
 
2013-05-04 02:44:11 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-04 02:50:08 PM
That is an amazing set of statements by the mother.  It shows just how disconnected from reality folks can be when it comes to their kids.  Someone who takes unregulated drugs with uncontrolled dosages, be it synthetic drugs or weed, is clearly being reckless.
 
2013-05-04 02:58:30 PM
[old farker rant]

Back in the early 80s, I tried blotter - took 1/2 (by myself) after 30-45 min. figured it was all bs so I took the other 1/2 - then I 'did not truly enjoy the next 8-10 hrs' - a year later, amidst friends I spit a purple microdot w/a gf and a very fun time was had by all. 3rd time, same folks/environment/gf - same fun time. Last (4th) time was at the NC coast w/ some dick I thought was a friend and it was very unpleasant (blotter/window pane). That was it for me.

During these years I did try shrooms and, while the smell/taste was horrible, and there was some initial nausea, it was a much smoother experience and we all (same group of friends) spent the night giggling our arses off. I wouldn't mind giving that one more go - but alas, I'm old now and am unable to do such youthful things. The only thing I never understood was why everyone always wanted to play Pink Floyd through it all...

[/old farker rant]
 
2013-05-04 03:18:46 PM

concotelli: Sounds just like the synthetic drug they had in "Robocop 2".  Except they called it "Nuke" instead of "N-bomb".


It's interesting because the character (apart from the possible drug induced messiah complex) he wanted to sell drugs and people wanted to buy his product.    The problem was that legally there was no way to conduct that business and the police wouldn't respond should anything untoward happen (i.e. they get robbed).

Half of the trouble was he couldn't conduct business in a proper manner (and form his little cult).
 
2013-05-04 03:20:20 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: [cannabisdestiny.com image 500x211]


Why is the Chechen dude wearing a sports bra?

/bra as in garment, not the 'retard signifier'.
//Chechen because he looks like one of those bomb guys, not because my phone AC'd Cheech.
 
2013-05-04 03:48:27 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor

your crazy i did 25i-NBoME and it was perfect.  literally.


Maybe you were fine, but many people experience major problems after taking 25x-NBOMe; people who have done many psychedelics prior without negative lasting side effects have reported major HPPD symptoms after taking them. Hell, the last time I bought acid IRL it was probably an NMBOMe of some sort. They were bitter, tongue numbing tabs. Trippy visuals existed but the experience was not thought provoking or euphoric. Had tracers in my vision for weeks afterwards. I hear that a lot of people aren't so lucky, and now have panic attacks whenever trying other psychedelics.

Remember kids: If you buy off the street, please have a reagent test on hand.
 
2013-05-04 04:08:28 PM

Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.


That isn't true of all drugs - an experienced user can assess the quality of SOME drugs before actually ingesting them - but certainly things like powerful psychedelics place one in the position of relying upon the honesty and responsibility of the supplier.
 
2013-05-04 04:36:21 PM
Considering how safe LSD, mescaline, and psilocybin are (as long as you have a sitter and don't do anything stupid), it would almost certainly be better to sell them legally. Even WITH accidents and such factored in they are safer than alcohol...
 
2013-05-04 04:53:58 PM

MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor


war on drugs is what causes the production of "synthetic" drugs
 
2013-05-04 04:55:01 PM

BigLuca: N-bomb?
I once accidentally dropped an n-bomb in a Hardee's on the south-side.  Barely got out with my life.


It's much safer if you drop an N-bomb from orbit

///It's the only way to be sure
 
2013-05-04 05:19:18 PM

Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.


As an adult I agree. As a teenager I didn't trust any of the bullshiat hyperbolic propaganda by the same folks who brought us reefer madness.

The drug war has inflicted real harm on drug users. Thanks morality police.
 
2013-05-04 05:58:21 PM

offmymeds: Jon iz teh kewl: it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small

This might be true were it not for the fact that, generally speaking, no two people have the exact same physiological/metabolic processes.  What may be "safe" for you might not work out so well for someone else. e.g.: Some people can tolerate opioid painkillers just fine (when taken as prescribed), while on the other hand, it could make someone else with an allergy to opioids very sick.


on SR you can buy it in very small increments, on blotter paper.  never heard of anyone putting it in their nose.  that's just sick.
 
2013-05-04 06:16:12 PM
I'm sure everyone passing judgment here always insists their acid comes with verified provenance and is triple-checked for purity, because this couldn't possibly happen to anyone who doesn't deserve it.

Anyway, this "n-bomb" is bush league.  I've heard tell of something really new and scary.  The kids call it "swank" and it's ten times more addictive than marijuana.  We need more funding for the DEA now.  We can cut some education funding to get it, and this will result in the added benefit of fewer chemists who can cook up these devil powders.
 
2013-05-04 06:24:01 PM

houstondragon: I'm sure it's very sad for the mom to have lost her kid, but I'm probably a callous bastard for pointing out no tragedy occurred here.

Your kid was looking to get wasted, with an illegal and dangerous drug, and OD'd on one. Whether it was acid or LSD wasn't the issue, either could still have killed him.

Denial should remain in Egypt.



Yeah, if you buy like $5000 of acid and take it all at once.  Then it might kill you.  Maybe.  The ratio of effective dose to LD50 is something like 1:6000.
 
2013-05-04 06:57:41 PM

jso2897: Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.

That isn't true of all drugs - an experienced user can assess the quality of SOME drugs before actually ingesting them - but certainly things like powerful psychedelics place one in the position of relying upon the honesty and responsibility of the supplier.


Yup I don't know many people who by pre ground weed. I check all my buds with a jewlers glass for mold and mite. Trust no one.
 
2013-05-04 07:30:48 PM
I tell you, this is just a darn disgrace. When I was a kid all we had to do to have a good time was stick our heads in a garbage bag filled with airconditioner coolant. Where are the parents?
 
2013-05-04 08:49:51 PM

ten foiled hats: Many have been the times when I tried what I thought was acid.  And I was right.

/Got nothin'.


This

/blue microdots ftw!
 
2013-05-04 09:48:17 PM
Wars are fought between humans and other humans, not between humans and plants/chemicals. It's not a war, it's just regulation of behavior instead of commodities or services. Otherwise we're fighting plants and mushrooms or their derivatives and have been losing for 40 years.
 
2013-05-04 11:09:23 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.

how do i know my Corona is Mexican piss


The second you see the bottle. Corona IS Mexican piss
 
2013-05-04 11:18:32 PM

Cyno01: Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.

Thats the thing, drugs you buy from a dealer are probably safe and of average potency, a dealer doesnt want to risk cutting their product with something dangerous and killing their customers, and conversely isnt going to give you anything laced with something more potent for free. Most of these synthetics are purchased at shady convenience stores that really dont give a fark and the formulation changes from week to week.


offmymeds: FarkinHostile: Kids nowadays. Why can't they just stick to dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid to get whacked like we did?

A doctor friend of mine recently told me that some folks are dipping their joints in formaldehyde.

Which is hilarious, because ACTUAL embalming fluid, formaldehyde, doesnt get you high, it just gives you cancer. Embalming fluid is a street name for liquid PCP, which is in no way similar to formaldehyde, but that hasnt stopped idiots from burglarizing mortuaries.


Yeah, but if you're goth, it's really COOL to smoke it!
 
2013-05-05 09:35:06 AM

txchad: Cyno01: Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.

Thats the thing, drugs you buy from a dealer are probably safe and of average potency, a dealer doesnt want to risk cutting their product with something dangerous and killing their customers, and conversely isnt going to give you anything laced with something more potent for free. Most of these synthetics are purchased at shady convenience stores that really dont give a fark and the formulation changes from week to week.


offmymeds: FarkinHostile: Kids nowadays. Why can't they just stick to dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid to get whacked like we did?

A doctor friend of mine recently told me that some folks are dipping their joints in formaldehyde.

Which is hilarious, because ACTUAL embalming fluid, formaldehyde, doesnt get you high, it just gives you cancer. Embalming fluid is a street name for liquid PCP, which is in no way similar to formaldehyde, but that hasnt stopped idiots from burglarizing mortuaries.

Yeah, but if you're goth, it's really COOL to smoke it!


i'm betting it DOES get you high and you're just too stupid to try it
 
2013-05-05 11:15:33 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: offmymeds: Jon iz teh kewl: it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small

This might be true were it not for the fact that, generally speaking, no two people have the exact same physiological/metabolic processes.  What may be "safe" for you might not work out so well for someone else. e.g.: Some people can tolerate opioid painkillers just fine (when taken as prescribed), while on the other hand, it could make someone else with an allergy to opioids very sick.

on SR you can buy it in very small increments, on blotter paper.  never heard of anyone putting it in their nose.  that's just sick.


What the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about anyone putting drugs up their nose? I was trying to point out that different people have different reactions to chemicals. You might want to lay off the K2 for awhile.
 
2013-05-05 11:23:34 AM

offmymeds: Jon iz teh kewl: offmymeds: Jon iz teh kewl: it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small

This might be true were it not for the fact that, generally speaking, no two people have the exact same physiological/metabolic processes.  What may be "safe" for you might not work out so well for someone else. e.g.: Some people can tolerate opioid painkillers just fine (when taken as prescribed), while on the other hand, it could make someone else with an allergy to opioids very sick.

on SR you can buy it in very small increments, on blotter paper.  never heard of anyone putting it in their nose.  that's just sick.

What the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about anyone putting drugs up their nose? I was trying to point out that different people have different reactions to chemicals. You might want to lay off the K2 for awhile.


RTFA, narc.
 
2013-05-05 12:04:08 PM

IWood: offmymeds: Jon iz teh kewl: offmymeds: Jon iz teh kewl: it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small

This might be true were it not for the fact that, generally speaking, no two people have the exact same physiological/metabolic processes.  What may be "safe" for you might not work out so well for someone else. e.g.: Some people can tolerate opioid painkillers just fine (when taken as prescribed), while on the other hand, it could make someone else with an allergy to opioids very sick.

on SR you can buy it in very small increments, on blotter paper.  never heard of anyone putting it in their nose.  that's just sick.

What the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about anyone putting drugs up their nose? I was trying to point out that different people have different reactions to chemicals. You might want to lay off the K2 for awhile.

RTFA, narc.


Narc? Really? Adios, shiathead.
 
2013-05-05 12:22:55 PM
Every time you make a substance like K2 illegal, the manufacturers produce a new chemical analog that is not prohibited, and rename the shiat. The new chemical analog is no doubt stronger and more dangerous then the previous chemical.

The war on drugs is actually the best possible way to get higher purity drugs in higher concentrations.

An 8 ball of coke used to be so impure, it was the size of a pool ball. (hence the name)

The weed soldiers smoked in Vietnam was probably 3-5% THC. Thanks to the war on drugs, I think we're up to plants with like 40% THC content.

It's insane. The war on drugs creates an arms race.
 
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