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(AZCentral)   "My son was not a reckless person. He decided to try what he thought was acid"   (azcentral.com) divider line 109
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2013-05-04 12:27:33 PM
it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small
 
2013-05-04 12:28:56 PM
Just grow your own shrooms
 
2013-05-04 12:32:30 PM

Walter Paisley: MXE is a very interesting substance. There is a lot of hype about it being similar to ketamine but it should be used with more caution than ketamine. The "hole" experiences are very bizarre and may be inherently unpleasant for some people. It's almost like a combination of a k-hole and sleep paralysis and you won't have thoughts in the normal sense during such an experience. I don't really know how to describe it, but it's sort of like temporarily being in a purely experiential state, but that state is outside of the physical. Thoughts won't manifest in words, but only in sounds and images with emotions attached to them.


Oh I know,I used to be able to get good quality MXE from my vendor before they stopped selling it. It was some magical shiat.
 
2013-05-04 12:36:25 PM
I'm confused is it called "n-bomb" or "n-bomb".
 
2013-05-04 12:37:51 PM

Mr.Tangent: I'm confused is it called "n-bomb" or "n-bomb".


Both.
 
2013-05-04 12:41:38 PM
Interesting times to grow up in.

These synthetics seem like something out of a bad movie.
 
2013-05-04 12:48:35 PM
blogs.villagevoice.com
You are reckless !
 
2013-05-04 12:52:42 PM
cannabisdestiny.com
 
2013-05-04 01:02:28 PM
wussies give psychedelics a bad name.
though not as bad a name as 'n-bomb'.

just say what it is, jesus christ most of us already know
which 2C-I derivative they're talkin bout.

one dead wussy, however
will not halt the necessary psychedelic revolution.


http://www.mediafire.com/?tuj7cjf3oq3oooi
 
2013-05-04 01:02:49 PM

jehovahs witness protection: I have to enable javascript to read text? WTF?


Yeah, is really lame.  I installed AdBlock Plus, enabled Element Hiding Rules under custom filters and then blocked "azcentral.com###requiredBg".
 
2013-05-04 01:11:39 PM
Apparently they require cookies to view their page.

/I'm sure I'm really missing out
 
2013-05-04 01:14:53 PM

Xyphoid: Apparently they require cookies to view their page.

/I'm sure I'm really missing out


They're in the same group as "You must register to view this page" news sites that just pull news from other sites.
 
2013-05-04 01:16:59 PM
POTENTIALLY USEFUL TRIVIA:Real LSD will effloresce under a black light.

\\\  Pays to check your stuff before you eat it.
 
2013-05-04 01:19:45 PM
known as "n-bomb,"

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-04 01:24:40 PM
Come on, who hasn't dropped the n-bomb once or twice in their life?
 
2013-05-04 01:26:43 PM
Zonker: "Whatever happened to grass?"

Duke: "Beats me, you can't even get arrested for it anymore."
 
2013-05-04 01:26:44 PM
Why don't they just take acid?
 
2013-05-04 01:30:41 PM
So the drug turns people into racists?
 
2013-05-04 01:32:24 PM

olddinosaur: POTENTIALLY USEFUL TRIVIA:Real LSD will effloresce under a black light.

\\\  Pays to check your stuff before you eat it.


What do you mean?
 
2013-05-04 01:37:16 PM
Not concerned enough to change the drug laws obviously.

/Should all be legal
//Not a libertarian
///Article the other day said antidrug stuff encouraged kids to try drugs
////50.5% of people in our prisons for drugs
////USA 25% has 25% of worlds prison population
////USA has 1/20 of worlds population
//But yea, for profit prisons, sounds like a great idea. Good thinking you farking asshats.
 
2013-05-04 01:38:00 PM
farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2013-05-04 01:38:21 PM
I'm sure it's very sad for the mom to have lost her kid, but I'm probably a callous bastard for pointing out no tragedy occurred here.

Your kid was looking to get wasted, with an illegal and dangerous drug, and OD'd on one. Whether it was acid or LSD wasn't the issue, either could still have killed him.

Denial should remain in Egypt.
 
2013-05-04 01:49:18 PM

doctor_sbaits0: Why don't they just take acid?


they're not bigtime operators, bro.
 
2013-05-04 01:52:14 PM

Dinjiin: jehovahs witness protection: I have to enable javascript to read text? WTF?

Yeah, is really lame.  I installed AdBlock Plus, enabled Element Hiding Rules under custom filters and then blocked "azcentral.com###requiredBg".


For some reason, I couldn't figure out how to manage that in the Adblock Plus settings, but there is a separate extension called Element Hiding Helper for Adblock Plus that makes it easy.
 
2013-05-04 01:53:03 PM

houstondragon: I'm sure it's very sad for the mom to have lost her kid, but I'm probably a callous bastard for pointing out no tragedy occurred here.
Your kid was looking to get wasted, with an illegal and dangerous drug, and OD'd on one. Whether it was acid or LSD wasn't the issue, either could still have killed him.
Denial should remain in Egypt.


I put the incorrect part in bold for your browsing convenience.
 
2013-05-04 02:05:39 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small


This might be true were it not for the fact that, generally speaking, no two people have the exact same physiological/metabolic processes.  What may be "safe" for you might not work out so well for someone else. e.g.: Some people can tolerate opioid painkillers just fine (when taken as prescribed), while on the other hand, it could make someone else with an allergy to opioids very sick.
 
2013-05-04 02:27:39 PM

davynelson: wussies give psychedelics a bad name.
though not as bad a name as 'n-bomb'.

just say what it is, jesus christ most of us already know
which 2C-I derivative they're talkin bout.

one dead wussy, however
will not halt the necessary psychedelic revolution.


http://www.mediafire.com/?tuj7cjf3oq3oooi


How is it a revolution? People been using psychedlics for hundreds if not thousands of years.

trippin balls is not a new thing by any stretch.

everyone needs atleast a couple good acid trips in their lifetime. Helps fix attitude and ego problems.

imagine if someone dosed mitt romney with a couple hits of liquid acid
 
2013-05-04 02:30:11 PM
Acid?

Billy was a chemist's son, but now he is no more. What he thought was H2O was H2SO4.
 
2013-05-04 02:34:42 PM

duffblue: olddinosaur: POTENTIALLY USEFUL TRIVIA:Real LSD will effloresce under a black light.

\\\  Pays to check your stuff before you eat it.

What do you mean?


What I mean is, put the suspect item under a black light and wee if it glows, before you ingest it.  It also pay to buy your acid on gelatin ("window pane") or a sheet of blotter paper, because fewer contaminants will be ingested this way.
 
2013-05-04 02:36:00 PM
Oops! I meant "see" if it glows.
 
2013-05-04 02:39:02 PM

olddinosaur: What I mean is, put the suspect item under a black light and wee if it glows, before you ingest it. It also pay to buy your acid on gelatin ("window pane") or a sheet of blotter paper, because fewer contaminants will be ingested this way.


Because you're just so dang happy it's not bunk sh*t, I presume.
 
2013-05-04 02:39:31 PM

Djembe: Zonker: "Whatever happened to grass?"

Duke: "Beats me, you can't even get arrested for it anymore."


Good one!
 
2013-05-04 02:40:56 PM

olddinosaur: Oops! I meant "see" if it glows.


Ah, now I wee.
 
2013-05-04 02:44:03 PM
"That is certainly a possibility, based on what witnesses are telling us - that either this drug is involved, some variant of that," said Sgt. Mark Clark, a Scottsdale police spokesman. "Certainly, when anyone becomes deceased from a possibility of any of these new drugs that are out there, we are obviously concerned."

Do cops go to some sort of obfuscation classes to learn to talk like this?
 
2013-05-04 02:44:11 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-04 02:50:08 PM
That is an amazing set of statements by the mother.  It shows just how disconnected from reality folks can be when it comes to their kids.  Someone who takes unregulated drugs with uncontrolled dosages, be it synthetic drugs or weed, is clearly being reckless.
 
2013-05-04 02:58:30 PM
[old farker rant]

Back in the early 80s, I tried blotter - took 1/2 (by myself) after 30-45 min. figured it was all bs so I took the other 1/2 - then I 'did not truly enjoy the next 8-10 hrs' - a year later, amidst friends I spit a purple microdot w/a gf and a very fun time was had by all. 3rd time, same folks/environment/gf - same fun time. Last (4th) time was at the NC coast w/ some dick I thought was a friend and it was very unpleasant (blotter/window pane). That was it for me.

During these years I did try shrooms and, while the smell/taste was horrible, and there was some initial nausea, it was a much smoother experience and we all (same group of friends) spent the night giggling our arses off. I wouldn't mind giving that one more go - but alas, I'm old now and am unable to do such youthful things. The only thing I never understood was why everyone always wanted to play Pink Floyd through it all...

[/old farker rant]
 
2013-05-04 03:18:46 PM

concotelli: Sounds just like the synthetic drug they had in "Robocop 2".  Except they called it "Nuke" instead of "N-bomb".


It's interesting because the character (apart from the possible drug induced messiah complex) he wanted to sell drugs and people wanted to buy his product.    The problem was that legally there was no way to conduct that business and the police wouldn't respond should anything untoward happen (i.e. they get robbed).

Half of the trouble was he couldn't conduct business in a proper manner (and form his little cult).
 
2013-05-04 03:20:20 PM

What_Would_Jimi_Do: [cannabisdestiny.com image 500x211]


Why is the Chechen dude wearing a sports bra?

/bra as in garment, not the 'retard signifier'.
//Chechen because he looks like one of those bomb guys, not because my phone AC'd Cheech.
 
2013-05-04 03:48:27 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor

your crazy i did 25i-NBoME and it was perfect.  literally.


Maybe you were fine, but many people experience major problems after taking 25x-NBOMe; people who have done many psychedelics prior without negative lasting side effects have reported major HPPD symptoms after taking them. Hell, the last time I bought acid IRL it was probably an NMBOMe of some sort. They were bitter, tongue numbing tabs. Trippy visuals existed but the experience was not thought provoking or euphoric. Had tracers in my vision for weeks afterwards. I hear that a lot of people aren't so lucky, and now have panic attacks whenever trying other psychedelics.

Remember kids: If you buy off the street, please have a reagent test on hand.
 
2013-05-04 04:08:28 PM

Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.


That isn't true of all drugs - an experienced user can assess the quality of SOME drugs before actually ingesting them - but certainly things like powerful psychedelics place one in the position of relying upon the honesty and responsibility of the supplier.
 
2013-05-04 04:36:21 PM
Considering how safe LSD, mescaline, and psilocybin are (as long as you have a sitter and don't do anything stupid), it would almost certainly be better to sell them legally. Even WITH accidents and such factored in they are safer than alcohol...
 
2013-05-04 04:53:58 PM

MurphyMurphy: This synthetic crap is so nuts, if only we could have a war on the bad drugs.

But instead we get an asset forfeiture program and an entire industry that thrives on keeping people behind bars.

/a dude went to a hospital with a board screwed to his chest with long wood screws
//at least those kids aren't getting a hold of the beer or the pot-grass or that malt liquor


war on drugs is what causes the production of "synthetic" drugs
 
2013-05-04 04:55:01 PM

BigLuca: N-bomb?
I once accidentally dropped an n-bomb in a Hardee's on the south-side.  Barely got out with my life.


It's much safer if you drop an N-bomb from orbit

///It's the only way to be sure
 
2013-05-04 05:19:18 PM

Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.


As an adult I agree. As a teenager I didn't trust any of the bullshiat hyperbolic propaganda by the same folks who brought us reefer madness.

The drug war has inflicted real harm on drug users. Thanks morality police.
 
2013-05-04 05:58:21 PM

offmymeds: Jon iz teh kewl: it's good stuff if you use it properly.  if you keep the dosage small

This might be true were it not for the fact that, generally speaking, no two people have the exact same physiological/metabolic processes.  What may be "safe" for you might not work out so well for someone else. e.g.: Some people can tolerate opioid painkillers just fine (when taken as prescribed), while on the other hand, it could make someone else with an allergy to opioids very sick.


on SR you can buy it in very small increments, on blotter paper.  never heard of anyone putting it in their nose.  that's just sick.
 
2013-05-04 06:16:12 PM
I'm sure everyone passing judgment here always insists their acid comes with verified provenance and is triple-checked for purity, because this couldn't possibly happen to anyone who doesn't deserve it.

Anyway, this "n-bomb" is bush league.  I've heard tell of something really new and scary.  The kids call it "swank" and it's ten times more addictive than marijuana.  We need more funding for the DEA now.  We can cut some education funding to get it, and this will result in the added benefit of fewer chemists who can cook up these devil powders.
 
2013-05-04 06:24:01 PM

houstondragon: I'm sure it's very sad for the mom to have lost her kid, but I'm probably a callous bastard for pointing out no tragedy occurred here.

Your kid was looking to get wasted, with an illegal and dangerous drug, and OD'd on one. Whether it was acid or LSD wasn't the issue, either could still have killed him.

Denial should remain in Egypt.



Yeah, if you buy like $5000 of acid and take it all at once.  Then it might kill you.  Maybe.  The ratio of effective dose to LD50 is something like 1:6000.
 
2013-05-04 06:57:41 PM

jso2897: Opeth1429: This is why ingesting illegal drugs doesnt make sense to me. The user has to procure them from a surreptitious source and then trust that it is what the seller says it is without knowing anything about what they're actually getting.

Even prescription drugs are subject to counterfeit.

That isn't true of all drugs - an experienced user can assess the quality of SOME drugs before actually ingesting them - but certainly things like powerful psychedelics place one in the position of relying upon the honesty and responsibility of the supplier.


Yup I don't know many people who by pre ground weed. I check all my buds with a jewlers glass for mold and mite. Trust no one.
 
2013-05-04 07:30:48 PM
I tell you, this is just a darn disgrace. When I was a kid all we had to do to have a good time was stick our heads in a garbage bag filled with airconditioner coolant. Where are the parents?
 
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