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(New York Daily News)   9/11 museum at Ground Zero will charge $25 for admission. Family members of victims: "These people are trying to make money off the worst day in American history"   (nydailynews.com) divider line 342
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2013-05-04 11:27:59 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Mrtraveler01: OtherLittleGuy: Mrtraveler01: Nabb1: Gwendolyn: Nabb1: Does the Holocaust museum charge for admission? I went when it first opened,  but I can't remember if there as any charge to get in.

The DC one does not.

I didn't think so.

Most museums in DC are free (All the Smithsonian ones are at least). Which is pretty nice since there are quite a few world-class museums in DC.

Spy Museum and Crime Museum are 15 or so. NatGeo Museum charged 8 for the Titanic exhibition. But most of the museums around and near the Mall are free.

What about the Newseum? How is that one?

It looked interesting but we never had time to make it over there.

21.95 plus tax, good for two consecutive days.


Is it worth it?
 
2013-05-04 11:28:58 AM  
I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?
 
2013-05-04 11:29:21 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: bborchar: Point02GPA: WorldCitizen: Worst day in American history?  I would imagine there are a few days during the Civil War that would disagree.

Battle of Spotsylvania Court House - 30,000 (National Park, 2.00 fee, free for students)


Speaking of, it's re-enactment weekend at Spotsylvania Court House.

And yes, they do charge to watch the LARPers.


Awesome, I wish we didn't have stuff to do this weekend.  I don't mind paying extra for special events, I've been to the TN parks because I grew up there, but now I live in PA, so I'm thinking that we might hit the battlefields up here this summer.
 
2013-05-04 11:32:06 AM  

cman: MmmmBacon: The construction costs have to be recouped somehow. It isn't like magical faeries came down and built a shrine for 9/11 out of pixie dust and smiles, there were significant costs involved in this project.

And every visitor will help pay back those costs.

I doubt it would even put a dent in construction recuperation.

I believe this is about the museum trying to be as self-sufficiant as possible. They may make money from trees, but trees arent gonna do a good job with the upkeep of this museum.


If any of you would bother to RTFA, it says 700m plus 60m/year. Over 1 billion has already be privately donated or given by the state. That's construction and operation for 5 years into the future, with more private donations coming in everyday. It's a money grab, pure and simple, but don't let facts get in the way of your political gamemanship.
 
2013-05-04 11:32:29 AM  

wildlifer: ko_kyi: Very bad day, yes.  Worst day in American History, no. Antietem comes to mind, I'm sure there are many more.

I agree.
But this generation of idiots if they hear civil war, all they can think; wasn't that a guns and roses song?


Wait, what generation are you talking about?  I'm creeping up on thirty and I would have been 6 when that song came out.
 
2013-05-04 11:32:41 AM  

Mrtraveler01: I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?


The Ford theater.
 
2013-05-04 11:33:49 AM  

Triumph: Average payout from the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund was $2.08 million, tax free. All they had to do to get the money was agree not to sue anyone. Congress funded it 11 days after the attack. Will the Boston bombing victims get money from Congress too?




They will probably get as much as the victims of the Oklahoma City bombing got.
 
2013-05-04 11:34:39 AM  
Patriot boner must be THIS BIG before entering alone
 
2013-05-04 11:36:10 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Mrtraveler01: I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?

The Ford theater.


Considering the budget crunch. I really think we should give the naming rights to the highest bidder. The Kia Theater would put millions of dollars back into the economy.
 
2013-05-04 11:36:34 AM  

The Incredible Sexual Egg: Triumph: Average payout from the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund was $2.08 million, tax free. All they had to do to get the money was agree not to sue anyone. Congress funded it 11 days after the attack. Will the Boston bombing victims get money from Congress too?

Congress? No. They'll receive a payout from the One Fund which is all donations from the public and businesses. I read an article on the Boston Globe saying the families of the victims that died and those that lost limbs will receive ~one million each with other injuries getting a lower amount




That's not going to come close to paying their medical bills.
 
2013-05-04 11:37:30 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Mrtraveler01: I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?

The Ford theater.


The spy museum.
 
2013-05-04 11:37:50 AM  

andyofne: LordJiro: Hobodeluxe: Worst day in American History?

[msnbcmedia3.msn.com image 298x277]

Certainly higher on the list than 9/11, if only because, among the administration's other failures, 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, with plenty of warning to boot.

But no, it's still far from the worst day.

According to Wikipedia, it's the 4th worst day in American history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disasters_in_the_United_States_ by _death_toll


So the day John F. Kennedy was shot was awesome in your world.
 
2013-05-04 11:38:38 AM  
Okay, fine; since they're not supposed to pay to keep the thing open, just close it down.  We don't need a constant reminder anyway.

/these things cost money, y'know.
//dumbasses
 
2013-05-04 11:39:02 AM  

rga184: Millennium: EvilEgg: The worst day in American history? I'm not sure about that. Sure, it was pretty bad, but I think a couple of days during the civil war could top it.

Pearl Harbor comes to mind too, as do a couple of points during the War of 1812. I can think of a few days that didn't even involve acts of war that were nevertheless worse than this one.

It is, of course, difficult to say this to someone who lost a loved one. Trauma is a cruel thing, and one of the worst things about it is the way it takes away a person's sense of perspective, and can do so for years, decades, or even full lifetimes, and there isn't much that anyone else can do about it.

For everyone else, though, enough is farking enough. Enough was farking enough in 2002.

I remember saying something to the effect on the tenth anniversary of the event. His response was somewhere along the lines of "so you want us to forget then?" and I sh*t you not, "should we forget about the holocaust too? Hey this guy thinks we should forget the holocaust!". This was an accomplished heart surgeon, the guy who operated in Bob Uecker, actually. Imagine the derp level when it's your average american.


Any IT tech or auto mechanic can tell you that outside their area of expertise, doctors are some of the stupidest people you'll ever have the misfortune to meet.
 
2013-05-04 11:39:15 AM  

Kevin Martin: Evil Mackerel: Mrtraveler01: I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?

The Ford theater.

Considering the budget crunch. I really think we should give the naming rights to the highest bidder. The Kia Theater would put millions of dollars back into the economy.


Booth's Gin would like to bid too.
 
2013-05-04 11:39:18 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: You think they're mad now, wait til they see the gift shop prices.

$19.99 for a FDNY #1 foam finger?


$50 for a crying eagle decorative plate.

I can't imagine any way this could be tastefully done.
 
2013-05-04 11:40:01 AM  
If the museum were free, I'd probably leave a big donation.
As it is, there's no way I'm going. I'm a pretty big asshole, but this type of profiteering disgusts me.
 
2013-05-04 11:40:20 AM  
RIP, Strob.
 
2013-05-04 11:48:42 AM  

Phinn: Evil Mackerel: Mrtraveler01: I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?

The Ford theater.

The spy museum.


Awesome suggestions guys. Thanks!
 
2013-05-04 11:50:23 AM  

Cheez_Wit: abhorrent1: They can charge, or not charge and run it with tax dollars, either way you're paying so take you farking pick. I'd rather they charge since it's not something I'll ever go too. Running a museum or any business costs money. Prayers and good intentions don't pay for shiat.

No, but corporate grant money can. I'd think that there would be scads of companies looking for a good way to wrap themselves in the flag and rend their garments out of recreational grief.


We call those 'charitable donations'...Also known as tax breaks.
 
2013-05-04 11:53:04 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Phinn: Evil Mackerel: Mrtraveler01: I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?

The Ford theater.

The spy museum.

Awesome suggestions guys. Thanks!


I recommend Arlington National Cemetery as well.
 
2013-05-04 11:55:11 AM  

jso2897: rga184: Millennium: EvilEgg: The worst day in American history? I'm not sure about that. Sure, it was pretty bad, but I think a couple of days during the civil war could top it.

Pearl Harbor comes to mind too, as do a couple of points during the War of 1812. I can think of a few days that didn't even involve acts of war that were nevertheless worse than this one.

It is, of course, difficult to say this to someone who lost a loved one. Trauma is a cruel thing, and one of the worst things about it is the way it takes away a person's sense of perspective, and can do so for years, decades, or even full lifetimes, and there isn't much that anyone else can do about it.

For everyone else, though, enough is farking enough. Enough was farking enough in 2002.

I remember saying something to the effect on the tenth anniversary of the event. His response was somewhere along the lines of "so you want us to forget then?" and I sh*t you not, "should we forget about the holocaust too? Hey this guy thinks we should forget the holocaust!". This was an accomplished heart surgeon, the guy who operated in Bob Uecker, actually. Imagine the derp level when it's your average american.

Any IT tech or auto mechanic can tell you that outside their area of expertise, doctors are some of the stupidest people you'll ever have the misfortune to meet.


I was the anesthesiologist on the case (also a doctor), so I'm getting a kick out of some of your replies.
 
2013-05-04 11:56:25 AM  
The damn thing should have never been built. The memorial should have been turning the area into a park. Someplace with lots of trees were people could have lunch from nearby office buildings and children could play. In the center they could have put up something like the  Vietnam VeteransMemorial, listing the names of the dead.
 
2013-05-04 12:01:48 PM  
The Worst Day In American History?

September 20, 2005 -- The Black Eyed Peas'  "My Humps" is released to a terrified American audience.

Nobody is ever the same again.
 
2013-05-04 12:03:14 PM  
Don't worry folks, VIPs will still get in free.
 
2013-05-04 12:03:30 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-04 12:07:22 PM  

LordJiro: Hobodeluxe: Worst day in American History?

[msnbcmedia3.msn.com image 298x277]

Certainly higher on the list than 9/11, if only because, among the administration's other failures, 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, with plenty of warning to boot.

But no, it's still far from the worst day.


I disagree. that's the day the conservative members of the SCOTUS decided to appoint their guy instead of waiting on all the votes to be counted. and then said that it shouldn't be used as a precedent in case it should ever come up again (you know. in case the Dem was in the lead before the dust settled next time)
 
2013-05-04 12:07:40 PM  
Oh, and to make a reservation by phone, it costs an additional two dollars. No mention of the $25 on their website: http://www.911memorial.org/museum
 
2013-05-04 12:08:11 PM  
shiat costs money.  You have to pay for the workers, and the electricity, and everything else.
 
2013-05-04 12:09:02 PM  
"When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, 'Oh shut up' I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining." -"The Glenn Beck Program," Sept. 9, 2005 (


Nice company you guys keep.
 
2013-05-04 12:13:06 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: The damn thing should have never been built. The memorial should have been turning the area into a park. Someplace with lots of trees were people could have lunch from nearby office buildings and children could play. In the center they could have put up something like the  Vietnam VeteransMemorial, listing the names of the dead.


Up above, someone pondered about listing names and this sprung to mind.

Seriously, the VVM was so 'controversial' that they needed to add statues nearby, but it's spot on for concept and reflection.

/and free, I believe
 
2013-05-04 12:15:07 PM  

jso2897: (/11 was a terrible thing - and I wish only the best for those who lost people in their lives on that dreadful day.
But - and i apologize for having to say this - it was NOT the worst day in American History. By a long shot.
Or at least, if it turns out to be - it will be OUR fault.


You're right...
talkingpointsmemo.com
 
2013-05-04 12:21:04 PM  

Mrtraveler01: What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?


Don't miss The White House tour.
 
2013-05-04 12:24:05 PM  
$25 is wallet rape.  they could charge $10 per person and they would still be swimming in money.

/active military should be free
//former military & senior citizen discount

done.
 
2013-05-04 12:28:29 PM  
Bin Laden lit the match.  Bush, Rove and Cheney destroyed America.

Yes, I know we still have a country called America, but it is not the same one we had before 2001.  All the goodwill and respect we had earned for things like curing polio, helping to win WWII, going to the Moon and building the Internet were squandered for nothing.  A significant percentage of the world hates us now, whereas before it was only a fanatical few.  For the rest of humanity, America the Great has become America the OK.  It will take generations of us being really cool again before we restore our reputation.

Knock knock!
Who's there?
Nine eleven.
Nine eleven who?
You said you'd never forget!
 
2013-05-04 12:29:57 PM  

spawn73: EvilEgg: The worst day in American history? I'm not sure about that. Sure, it was pretty bad, but I think a couple of days during the civil war could top it.

How about the day USA invaded Iraq. That's the worst in my book.

9/11 was meh, countries are attacked by terrorists all the time, get over it.


What where you watching?  Cuz I was watching the news, and they had reporters broadcasting live from moving combat vehicles as they sped towards Baghdad... it was farking exciting!
 
2013-05-04 12:30:34 PM  
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Pearl Harbor memorial charges an entrance fee. I have no problem paying a fee for maintenance and upgrades, staff, etc. Small price to pay to keep our history alive. I don't think any of it goes directly to victims.
 
2013-05-04 12:31:44 PM  
And NEVER FORGET to stop by the gift ship for a a Twin Tower snow globe for only $9.11!
 
2013-05-04 12:31:51 PM  

jshine: 'Worst day in American history' might be a bit much - recent history maybe... Some of the civil war battles far-eclipse 9/11 in the number of Americans killed & injured.


Only if you count the full wars. If you go by individual attacks, 9/11 dwarfs Pearl Harbor on number of dead (9/11 had 2996, Pearl had 2,402).

As far as them charging, I'm ok with it, although $25 is a bit high. Most museums in my area charge $5 a section, plus $10-25 for special events.
 
2013-05-04 12:32:15 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Shouldn't they be more disgusted over how the lives of those 3,000 people have been made to be more important than the 300 million other people in this country, and have been used by politicians for the past 12 years to systematically strip us all of our rights?


I'm sorry, what rights have you been stripped of?
 
2013-05-04 12:34:57 PM  
As far as I know the USS Arizona memorial is free to visit. This should be no different. If anything, they should hand control of this over to the National Parks Service like they do with battlefields and if there's going to be any fee, which there should not, it would only be minimal.
 
2013-05-04 12:38:13 PM  
www.global-air.com

The 9/11 attack on New York made Rudolph Guiliani a very wealthy man. (new window)
 
2013-05-04 12:38:46 PM  
This is different from all the other ways in which people have profited off of 9/11... how, again?
 
2013-05-04 12:42:44 PM  

NeverDrunk23: It will be visited by the Bible Belt who will pay their respects, then go back to not considering New York a part of REAL America.


As opposed to New Yorkers who don't consider "flyover states" to be part of real america.
 
2013-05-04 12:43:07 PM  

Mrtraveler01: I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?


What else are you interested in? The National Gallery of Art is pretty good, depending on the exhibit. So's the Hirschorn. The Museum of Natural History and the museum of American History are good, too. I hear the Spy Museum is great, but it charges admission.
 
2013-05-04 12:45:57 PM  

vygramul: Mrtraveler01: I've been to the Air and Space Museum and the Holocaust Museum as well as the different memorials and monuments on the Mall. What else should I check out if I ever go back to DC in the future?

What else are you interested in? The National Gallery of Art is pretty good, depending on the exhibit. So's the Hirschorn. The Museum of Natural History and the museum of American History are good, too. I hear the Spy Museum is great, but it charges admission.


I also hear the Museum of the American Indian is disappointing - its reviews have been decidedly mixed, though it may have gotten better in the four years since I paid attention.
 
2013-05-04 12:51:39 PM  
RedWineBuzz

And NEVER FORGET to stop by the gift ship for a a Twin Tower snow globe for only $9.11!

Where the "snow" represents all that flying office paper!

You're going to be rich, right after you go to hell.
 
2013-05-04 12:54:53 PM  
Worst day? Hardly. Those would both be in 1913 and it's a tie:

December 23, 1913

February 3, 1913
 
2013-05-04 12:58:11 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
...but will this so called museum show how fire melts steel?
 
2013-05-04 12:59:51 PM  

People_are_Idiots: jshine: 'Worst day in American history' might be a bit much - recent history maybe... Some of the civil war battles far-eclipse 9/11 in the number of Americans killed & injured.

Only if you count the full wars. If you go by individual attacks, 9/11 dwarfs Pearl Harbor on number of dead (9/11 had 2996, Pearl had 2,402).

As far as them charging, I'm ok with it, although $25 is a bit high. Most museums in my area charge $5 a section, plus $10-25 for special events.


Can you post the address of the cave you've been living in for the past decade?  I'd like to get you a newspaper subscription.
 
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