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2013-05-04 08:51:57 AM  
The American Urological Association, which has staunchly defended the PSA screening test in recent years, says healthy men under 55 don't need routine annual screening.

But it's still okay to get checked out if we like it, right?
 
2013-05-04 08:52:49 AM  
I got the joke.  Jeez...I have studied way too much math.
 
2013-05-04 08:53:36 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The American Urological Association, which has staunchly defended the PSA screening test in recent years, says healthy men under 55 don't need routine annual screening.

But it's still okay to get checked out if we like it, right?


Right.  But next time, make sure there is only ONE hand on your shoulders.
 
2013-05-04 09:04:17 AM  

eyeq360: AverageAmericanGuy: The American Urological Association, which has staunchly defended the PSA screening test in recent years, says healthy men under 55 don't need routine annual screening.

But it's still okay to get checked out if we like it, right?

Right.  But next time, make sure there is only ONE hand on your shoulders.


<b>Annual</b> screening.
 
2013-05-04 09:04:56 AM  
Annual screening.  sorry
 
2013-05-04 09:19:57 AM  
It's a blood test, so there's no FIA, solicited or otherwise.
 
2013-05-04 09:59:23 AM  
Friend of mine got his first physical in 20 years, had an elevated PSA, turns out he had prostate cancer. Had surgery to remove it. The test certainly did him some good.
 
2013-05-04 10:10:24 AM  
When my Dad was in his late 50's, he started getting a PSA test biannually due to a family history of prostate cancer.  One day, it came up suspicious.  The doctor wanted to monitor it, Dad insisted on a referral for a core sample.  The core sample confirmed he had early prostate cancer.  He had the surgery and every follow up test detected no signs of cancer.  The post surgery biopsy showed he had an aggressive form.  If he hadn't had a biannual PSA and insisted on a biopsy, he wouldn't be alive today.
 
2013-05-04 10:25:00 AM  
The reason of these things is that prostate cancer, unless you get it really early, generally doesn't kill you. You're gonna probably die of something else before the prostate cancer does.

When the survival rate of a cancer like prostate cancer (or thyroid cancer, for instance) is over 99%... then getting screenings can be counter productive in some instances because of the false positives. There's also the issue of treating people for cancer that they do, in fact, have but don't actually need treated for.

Despite the recent advances of screening for thyroid cancer, for instance, there's been 0 change in the survival rate. Why? Most people get it and die with it but not of it. (Discover magazine had a big article on this a few months back).

Similar issues happen for prostate cancer.
 
2013-05-04 11:04:35 AM  
FTA: "... (W)e do need to continue to keep a vigilant watch on those patients who have prostate cancer...."

So, how are you supposed to find out you've got prostate cancer if you don't get tested initially?
 
2013-05-04 11:40:12 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: When my Dad was in his late 50's, he started getting a PSA test biannually due to a family history of prostate cancer.  One day, it came up suspicious.  The doctor wanted to monitor it, Dad insisted on a referral for a core sample.  The core sample confirmed he had early prostate cancer.  He had the surgery and every follow up test detected no signs of cancer.  The post surgery biopsy showed he had an aggressive form.  If he hadn't had a biannual PSA and insisted on a biopsy, he wouldn't be alive today.


CSB.

/seriously,glad to hear it
 
2013-05-04 11:58:53 AM  
Well of course UF is not an element of A.  Duh.
 
2013-05-04 12:35:51 PM  
I totally predicted this ten years ago.  When my wife was talking about how vagina doctors demand to do full exams every six months or year when prescribing birth control, and how woman over a certain age get their boobs smashed between metal plates regularly, I was like "Yeah, no way men would put up with it.  They've been trying to make us do routine prostate exams for a few years now, and a lot of guys just stopped going to the doctor at all.  I give it another five to ten years before they just give up and say it's not really necessary."
 
2013-05-04 02:04:09 PM  

t3knomanser: It's a blood test, so there's no FIA, solicited or otherwise.


This.

I get one every 6 months and I'm not even 30. I had low T causing extreme lethargy, so I get shots once a month, which carry a risk of elevated prostate cancer risk. I'm fine with donating a little blood once in a while just to be safe.
 
2013-05-04 02:04:24 PM  

fivestringer: So, how are you supposed to find out you've got prostate cancer if you don't get tested initially?


The large majority of prostate cancer cases are slow growing - you can wait until you notice symptoms before you treat the cancer and be fine.  In fact a lot of people with prostate cancer don't even need treatment at all - since it predominantly affects the elderly, many times the patient's expected lifespan is short enough that they will die of other causes before the cancer even presents significant problems.
 
2013-05-04 02:12:31 PM  

t3knomanser: It's a blood test, so there's no FIA, solicited or otherwise.


Wait, what?!
 
2013-05-04 03:30:14 PM  
Sounds like good cancer.
cdn.hbowatch.com
 
2013-05-04 07:25:40 PM  

wildsnowllama: t3knomanser: It's a blood test, so there's no FIA, solicited or otherwise.

Wait, what?!


The PSA test is a blood test.

Everyone here is confusing it with a digital rectal exam or a colonoscopy.
 
2013-05-04 09:16:59 PM  

Ogre840: t3knomanser: It's a blood test, so there's no FIA, solicited or otherwise.

This.

I get one every 6 months and I'm not even 30. I had low T causing extreme lethargy, so I get shots once a month, which carry a risk of elevated prostate cancer risk. I'm fine with donating a little blood once in a while just to be safe.


Yeah - I'm guessing there'll be more FIA now that PSAs are DOA.
 
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