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(Addicting Info)   Remember the 4th grade science test where the right answer is that god made dinosaurs on the 6th day? Turns out it was legit and the school administrator is shocked at the public's reaction. Awwww   (addictinginfo.org) divider line 326
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2013-05-04 04:33:13 PM  
Religion is simply a facet of man's incredible hubris and arrogance.

He creates beings of unfathomable power in his image and says that he was created in their image. He puts himself at the center of the universe. When the gods are creating everything, they save the best for last and give control of the world to man. When man does anything, the gods are always watching and meddling. It's because of man that the entire universe becomes corrupt and cursed. The gods care only about man, and one day they'll take man to eternal paradise or eternal agony.

To put it in sexual terms, religion is auto-fellatio.
 
2013-05-04 04:39:44 PM  
As this author writes, any parent, any adult who has to lie to their children to keep their beliefs (and their egos) intact is a sad, sad mess.
I'm never concerned with the people who have a religion... my concern is about the people who never question theirs.
 
2013-05-04 04:54:46 PM  

AdrienVeidt: So, if God is perfect and so is His Creation, why would He choose to kill them off? Did He not tell Noah to make the ark big enough, or not allow enough time? Or were they the misceginated offspring of angels farking lizards, or whatever?

And I still don't understand why faith is valuable to Him.


I always wondered about that, all the way back to "Adam and Eve"...
By definition a perfect being could not create an imperfect thing.
When this god created humans, they must have been perfect since imperfection was impossible.
If they were indeed perfect, they must have been as perfect as the god that made them, and would not have needed to be tested with the tree of knowledge, since they could not be swayed into committing sin, an imperfect act.

If this god was perfect, how did it make mistakes on such a grand scale that it had to not only test its creation several times (Job, Joseph and Mary, Adam, Eve, Jonah, Abraham and Sarah, and even Jesus) but destroy it and start again?
 
2013-05-04 05:09:08 PM  

Nappy Imus: Bubbacus: Since evolution is a fact, we only have to wait for the fundamentalists to winnow themselves from the gene pool.

Last I heard, evolution was still a theory. A good theory mind you, but a theory nonetheless :D


Might I suggest you take another look? Evolution is well-established fact, and was known as such by scientists even before Darwin. Natural selection is a theory that tries to explain the "why" and "how" of evolution.

If evolution wasn't real, numerous commercial industrial processes in pharmaceuticals and other fields simply wouldn't work. But they do work, and reliably produce billions of dollars in revenues every year. How much more factual can you get?
 
2013-05-04 05:28:23 PM  
Doc Daneeka:
Besides, it'd probably only be temporary.  The South would be a bankrupt, failed state within 10 years. We'd be free to step back in and pick up the pieces if we wanted.within

As was said before, the South/Confederate States of America would be a warmonger, because their version of Christianity requires a persecuting enemy to defeat.  They would harass and attempt to invade the Northeastern and Western confederacies, whose secular attitudes would be an affront to their very existence.  Given that most of the missile silos in the US  and most of the US Air Force bases are in Confederate states, it would be a very short war.
 
2013-05-04 05:36:05 PM  

baddogg: Sure, I am bubble wrapping, but I won't regret a moderated Christian education vs. learning how to swear in Kindergarten.


And you actually think that instead of having your child to confront with all the stuff you might find undesirable in the world and learning to deal with it (with your guidance as a parent), you think that shielding them from the world will automatically make them immune to it?

Here's a clue: keeping children ignorant of something will only make them want to do it more. And harder. And faster. And bigger. And sooner.

Maybe, just maybe you should have let your child be exposed to the "f-word", so that they could come home and tell you, then you could sit down and explain to them why it's not a polite word to say. They can decide for themselves, using what you have taught them, if what they encounter is good for them. Y'know, like a parent. Instead, you "bubble wrap" your child and hope it works.

Good luck with that.

/I'm sure they already know how to swear
 
2013-05-04 05:36:15 PM  

bonobo73: This isn't about science fact -- this is about culture.

Day to day, how often does it really factor into your thinking whether or not dinosaurs existed and the true age of the earth?  Does it really matter if your ophthalmologist or mechanic or pc technician has a thorough understanding of modern scientific theory about the fossil record?


If you were trolling, you got me: HELL YES, it matters! I tolerated a handyman who believed that garbage, but a professional? No way. Professionals are required to have some critical thinking skills. I don't discriminate against religious people in-general, but if it reaches the point of "Young Earth Creationism", numerology, or someone practically paralyzed by superstitions, I'm out of there. All 3 of those are real examples from my experiences, incidentally. I briefly knew a dentist who's seriously afraid of stepping on sidewalk cracks! Never went back.
 
2013-05-04 05:40:13 PM  
Relevant article:

Is evolution missing link in some Pennsylvania high schools?
Some 20 percent of science teachers in survey say they believe in creationism

April 28, 2013 12:25 am


Ninety percent chose evolution; 19 percent said they believe in creationism, not defined in the questionnaire; 13 percent said they believe in intelligent design; and another 5 percent answered "not sure/other." Teachers were allowed to list more than one option, so the numbers don't total 100 percent.
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But Mr. Berkman said their most alarming finding was that teachers need not introduce creationism in class to undercut interest and belief in evolution.

"You just have to throw doubt and downplay evolution," he said. "The idea that teachers are doing a really weak job - many a really weak job - of introducing evolution, we think, is because of reactions they get and maybe because of the lack of confidence in what they are teaching. That especially is the case with evolution, where many students have been primed by parents and youth groups to raise difficult and challenging questions."

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/education/is-evolution-mi ssin g-link-in-some-pennsylvania-high-schools-685389/
 
2013-05-04 06:32:54 PM  

Mentat: Jesus Christ.


I blame him too.
 
2013-05-04 06:42:13 PM  
Freedom of religion, biatches.  Your outrage is bullshiat no matter how mad it made you feel.  It was a private Christian school, so parents obviously are not oblivious to what their children are being taught.  They want to send their kids there to be indoctrinated than that is their prerogative.  If it was a public school then I would tell everyone to 'have at 'em' but that's not the case.  If that's what they want that's what they pay for so let it go Sally.
 
2013-05-04 07:53:04 PM  

Ray_Peranus: Freedom of religion, biatches.



And nobody is denying their right to teach whatever intense stupidity they want to their children.

This thread is full of posts mocking their stupidity and speculating what fast food joint these children are going to end up working at,

We are exercising Freedom of Speech ... Biatch.
 
2013-05-04 08:26:07 PM  

mutterfark: ScaryBottles: I swear to christ we're like 10 generations tops from herding these morons for food.

How Eloitist of you. ;)


what you did there,
I thought it important that someone let you know they saw it.

/FARK, it is the little things which count
 
2013-05-04 08:47:08 PM  

Doc Daneeka: It doesn't matter to an ophthalmologist whether dinosaurs existed or not, but if he honestly believes dinosaurs walked around 4000 years ago, it suggests that he lacks the basic critical thinking, reasoning, and cognitive skills to be a good ophthalmologist.


Nah.  He may have all of those skills and apply them to his job,  but not to his beliefs about dinosaurs.  A good car mechanic uses the same skills and it doesn't matter what he believes about dinosaurs.

There's a difference between applying science and doing science.  Only the latter is incompatible with creationism.
 
2013-05-04 10:09:19 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: "Were you there?"

No, but you weren't there for Jesus, so I guess we're even, right?


Yeah, it would of been cool to be at the 1st council of Nicea when they made up Jesus.
 
2013-05-04 10:15:59 PM  

acohn: Doc Daneeka:
Besides, it'd probably only be temporary.  The South would be a bankrupt, failed state within 10 years. We'd be free to step back in and pick up the pieces if we wanted.within

As was said before, the South/Confederate States of America would be a warmonger, because their version of Christianity requires a persecuting enemy to defeat.  They would harass and attempt to invade the Northeastern and Western confederacies, whose secular attitudes would be an affront to their very existence.  Given that most of the missile silos in the US  and most of the US Air Force bases are in Confederate states, it would be a very short war.


Is that last sentence supposed to be AREN'T? Because your links tell a different tale.
 
2013-05-04 10:42:17 PM  

Nappy Imus: Oh, off topic, but if you had the chance to actually kill (or try to kill) a god, would you take it? Steal his/her/its golden blood and drink it and become a god, or something :D I mean, if you had just one shot at meeting god, would you bow, or would you get all stabby? Well anyway, feel free to stay on topic :D


Yes, hell yes I would.

I'd make a far better...or perhaps far worse god than the one I elbowed nastily outta the way.

No fake claims of "benevolence" or "compassion" or so-called "loving-kindness" when I sit lazily on my now-divine ass and piddly-fart around while My planet full of human pets/worshiipers/playthings suffers from shiat I could damned well prevent with but the merest twitch of My pinky, as the Deadbeat Formerly August Personage of Heaven is doing right this very moment.

If I decided to be Good, I'd be working My ass off day and night to take direct, in-yo-face care of My creation. Those who saw Me and freely wished to follow Me would have no doubt whatsoever of My existence or of My will.

If I decided to be Evil....well....I would still be very directly and very visibly playing My rotten pranks instead of lazily sitting back and dawdling with My thumb up My ass.
 
2013-05-05 01:06:05 AM  

yukichigai: Your Average Witty Fark User: Freedom of speech and freedom of religion is not the same as freedom from criticism for being farking stupid.

Can I get that in bumper sticker form?


I'd buy one of those bumper stickers.
 
2013-05-05 01:10:58 AM  

Beowoolfie: Nappy Imus: Bubbacus: Since evolution is a fact, we only have to wait for the fundamentalists to winnow themselves from the gene pool.

Last I heard, evolution was still a theory. A good theory mind you, but a theory nonetheless :D

Might I suggest you take another look? Evolution is well-established fact, and was known as such by scientists even before Darwin. Natural selection is a theory that tries to explain the "why" and "how" of evolution.

If evolution wasn't real, numerous commercial industrial processes in pharmaceuticals and other fields simply wouldn't work. But they do work, and reliably produce billions of dollars in revenues every year. How much more factual can you get?


Yeah, someone earlier helped to clear that up, but thank you kindly nonetheless. Well, until the next time I ignorantly shoot off my mouth, farewell :D
 
2013-05-05 01:42:09 AM  

jayphat: Is that last sentence supposed to be AREN'T? Because your links tell a different tale.


Yeah, it should've been AREN'T.  Good thing the links told the story I wanted.
 
2013-05-05 03:07:16 AM  
FREEDOM OF SCIENCE, BIATCHES!
 
2013-05-05 08:12:08 AM  

Silverstaff: It makes me scared of what places like this would teach for history.

I remember talking to someone once, a few years ago, who had what I could only call a hideously skewed version of the history of the Christian church.  I don't mean theology, I mean actual documented history.

He apparently had been taught that Catholicism was a completely unrelated religion to "Christianity", and was actually a devil-worshipping cult that had arisen in the medeival era to oppress "Christianity" in it's original form (which upon further discussion apparently meant Evangelical Protestantism).

This arose when I was at work, and while chatting with somebody, the discussion turned to theology.  At the time I was taking a Comparative Theology class at a public university, and found the subject fascinating.  I knew my co-worker was a somewhat devout Christian.  I mentioned Catholicism as a form of Christianity, which he took grave offense to and got very angry at the mention of.

He apparently thought modern Evangelical Protestant Christianity is the unaltered, original form of Christianity, practiced EXACTLY like it was from just after the crucifixion to the present day, but had been oppressed by Catholicism (which he considered to be some kind of ancient demon-worshipping cult that rose to power in the middle ages due to demon-w) from the medieval era until "Christians" fled to the Americas to be free from Catholic oppression and be able to found a Christian nation like God intended.


Was his name Jack Chick?
 
2013-05-05 08:35:56 AM  

Ray_Peranus: Freedom of religion, biatches.  Your outrage is bullshiat no matter how mad it made you feel.  It was a private Christian school, so parents obviously are not oblivious to what their children are being taught.  They want to send their kids there to be indoctrinated than that is their prerogative.  If it was a public school then I would tell everyone to 'have at 'em' but that's not the case.  If that's what they want that's what they pay for so let it go Sally.


You sound defensive.
 
2013-05-05 08:37:03 AM  

Stone Meadow: cameroncrazy1984: Sum Dum Gai: As a bible literalist, this is insane.  Job 40 describes Behemoth as having bones of bronze and limbs of iron.  Clearly, it's a cyborg.

I'm not saying it was aliens, but...

I remember them...

[image of a terminator]


Job 40 also mentions a tail which which is an ancient euphemism for a certain part of the male anatomy.  So it must be an x-rated cyborg.
 
2013-05-05 10:19:41 AM  

JohnnyFootball: Lady Indica: Hack Patooey: baddogg: My 5 year old attends private Christian school.  Before you flame, listen.  A neighbor sent her kid to the local catchment school kindergarten  and learned how to drop the 'F' bomb in a day due to the low rental neighborhood adjacent to a fairly middle income neighborhood.  I could send my kid to another school via bus and learn Christian values and discipline which I did.  I am damn near a atheist but if I were any kind of parent and if my kid were on her way out for any reason, I'd want her to believe she was going to be with angels and be with God rather than be plant food.  I even attend church for a good nap to foster this.  She's happy, out of harms way, I hope!  Sure, I am bubble wrapping, but I won't regret a moderated Christian education vs. learning how to swear in Kindergarten.

Dude, who the farkity fark cares if their kid uses profanity, that can certainly be dealt with by you in your home if you maintain any farking discipline. That's a fark of a lot easier than shoring up your child's deficient education. And it's a fark of lot easier than the goddamned nightmares of hell, and fears, and superstitions she's learning.

Seriously where is your brain? And if it's really just 'bad influences' you're concerned about and not the 'f-bomb', then move to a better district. Better that then what you're doing, and you'd save money to boot.

On our first camping trip of the year we allow our children to have a swear fest. It lasts one hour and the kids can say any words they want, as long as they use them properly. They have been doing this since they were six. We have never heard them swear at any other time.


That is *awesome*. It ensures they have a lovely arsenal at their disposal should need arise, and are being taught that it's only used in the right time/place.

/likes it :D
 
2013-05-05 11:17:34 AM  
I wonder how the school kids will react to the newly-minted internet notoriety of their tiny alma mater.
 
2013-05-05 06:22:55 PM  

randomjsa: Yes, the test is stupid and just the sort of thing you expect out of Christians but the way the article downplays how people have been reacting toward the school as just "criticism" is highly misleading as well. The internet hate machine is in full effect and they need to knock it off. You are doing nobody any favors by giving the Christians actual cause to claim they are being persecuted irregardless of what you think of their stupid test.


Persecution mythology is an integral part of most Christian cults from Judaism, to Calvinist Protestant 'Pilgrims', to Mormonism. It requires absolutely zero external stoking, because fear of an evil, outsider society - an idea relentlessly promoted by the hillbilly witch doctors we mislabel as 'pastors' - is a time honored tactic to keep suggestible sheep in line and donating. See also: Anti-abortion outrage.
 
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