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(Addicting Info)   Remember the 4th grade science test where the right answer is that god made dinosaurs on the 6th day? Turns out it was legit and the school administrator is shocked at the public's reaction. Awwww   (addictinginfo.org) divider line 326
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2013-05-04 06:42:28 AM
Blind faith and going through life with blinders on is fine until you force it on someone else. You kids included!
 
2013-05-04 06:42:29 AM

randomjsa: irregardless

 
2013-05-04 06:43:13 AM

Mrtraveler01: Fark Me To Tears: Aw, c'mon folks. This is a school in South Carolina. Most of these kids are going to grow up to work in the Chinese-owned refrigerator factory on the other side of town. How accurate of an education do you need for that?

Boeing just built its newest plant in SC (although it's on the other side of the state from this school).

I don't feel safe flying anymore if the only thing holding the plane up is duck tape and prayers.


Nobody from SC probably works in that plant, except for the cleaning crew.
 
2013-05-04 06:43:29 AM
You = your
Too tired
 
2013-05-04 06:47:15 AM
planes:Most of us had parents who taught us to accept their religious beliefs as undeniable fact.

Only if your parents were batshiat insane/religious zealots.  Religious indoctrination was not a part of my upbringing or education one way or the other.
 
2013-05-04 06:47:46 AM

FurbyGoneFubar: Snopes also included the other side of the test:  http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

[www.snopes.com image 500x667]


18 is precious.  I've got an idea: When these sorts of people tell you about how great Jesus Christ is, just ask them "Were you there?"
 
2013-05-04 06:49:53 AM
I thought decide what and how to teach was the point of private parochial school.  If this were a public school, I could understand why everyone is so smugly smugly superior in pointing out that it is not science but, I mean come on, it is a religious school.
 
2013-05-04 06:49:54 AM

AdrienVeidt: And I still don't understand why faith is valuable to Him.


It's not. It's valuable to the priests. Because it's all they have.
 
2013-05-04 06:49:59 AM

LordJiro: AverageAmericanGuy: AdrienVeidt: So, if God is perfect and so is His Creation, why would He choose to kill them off? Did He not tell Noah to make the ark big enough, or not allow enough time? Or were they the misceginated offspring of angels farking lizards, or whatever?

And I still don't understand why faith is valuable to Him.

The ark was big enough for the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs were only the size of sheep.

When they landed on Mt. Ararat, the problem was that the soaked ground had lost much of the vegetation that would have kept these reptiles alive. As a result, most of the dinosaur species went extinct soon after the Flood water subsided.

We still have some left, such as the gila monster, Komodo dragon, and crocodiles. But the vast majority of dinosaurs died in the Flood aftermath.

I can only assume you're trolling at this point. Otherwise, you fail at anything remotely resembling science so hard that I'm surprised your skull doesn't implode.


Did you read the second page of the test? It says clearly that dinosaurs were the size of sheep.
 
2013-05-04 06:51:34 AM

Old Man Winter: I thought decide what and how to teach was the point of private parochial school.  If this were a public school, I could understand why everyone is so smugly smugly superior in pointing out that it is not science but, I mean come on, it is a religious school.


Not an excuse for child abuse.
 
2013-05-04 06:52:17 AM
The same "test" is also used in History, Math, Writing, and Sex Ed classes in that school.
 
2013-05-04 06:52:47 AM

FurbyGoneFubar: Snopes also included the other side of the test:  http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

[www.snopes.com image 500x667]


It's more horrifying than the first page.
 
2013-05-04 06:53:03 AM
Just let the South secede already.

They can set up the 3rd World theocracy they seem to want so badly.  With outlawed abortion, no environmental protection, no regulations, no worker rights, and mandatory gun ownership.

And we can have the progressive, modern democracy, with single-payer universal healthcare, high speed rail, electric cars, a living wage, a healthy middle class, sensible gun control, and strict separation of church and state.

Think how much better things would be without those Neanderthals holding us back from every measure of progress!  Fighting to save the Union was the biggest mistake the US ever made.
 
2013-05-04 06:54:06 AM

Doc Daneeka: Just let the South secede already.


...why punish the few smart people for the sins of the stupid?
 
2013-05-04 06:55:05 AM

IlGreven: FurbyGoneFubar: Snopes also included the other side of the test:  http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

[www.snopes.com image 500x667]

18 is precious.  I've got an idea: When these sorts of people tell you about how great Jesus Christ is, just ask them "Were you there?"


They will respond by explaining that they were not there, but that the Author of the book who explains what occurred was there.

I have been informed that requesting validation of their claim of the book's authorship is an attack against Christianity.
 
2013-05-04 06:55:13 AM
And why is Al that 'begat' stuff so important while everything between Jesus' birth and age 30 irrelevant?

And if the whole of Creation an experiment about Humanity's free will and what we do with it, what would God have done if Judas had decided against betraying Jesus? Did God really let His Plan rest on one man, or was Judas pre-ordained - i.e. forced - to do it so there would be a point to Jesus' life as a man?
 
2013-05-04 06:58:01 AM

Old Man Winter: I thought decide what and how to teach was the point of private parochial school.  If this were a public school, I could understand why everyone is so smugly smugly superior in pointing out that it is not science but, I mean come on, it is a religious school.


It's true. They can teach what they want.

But my God, way to set up those kids for failure in the future.

The best hope these kids have is to work as a stock boy/girl at Food Lion.

All that being said, the person sent their kid to a religious school in a part of SC that is notorious for taking religion to derpy extremes. Was that parent really expecting a quality education at this school?
 
2013-05-04 06:58:24 AM

AdrienVeidt: And why is Al that 'begat' stuff so important while everything between Jesus' birth and age 30 irrelevant?

And if the whole of Creation an experiment about Humanity's free will and what we do with it, what would God have done if Judas had decided against betraying Jesus? Did God really let His Plan rest on one man, or was Judas pre-ordained - i.e. forced - to do it so there would be a point to Jesus' life as a man?


Man, Judas was just farked by God from the day he was born.  Can you imagine that realization that everything you've ever done in your whole life was just so you could get the son of God killed and that your free will meant nothing and that God chose you out of all humanity for this honor?  Before you were born.  I'd hang myself too.
 
2013-05-04 06:58:57 AM

AdrienVeidt: And why is Al that 'begat' stuff so important while everything between Jesus' birth and age 30 irrelevant?


Bona fides. The Israelites were trying to secure their claim to whatever land they wanted to take by force from the people who were already there.
 
2013-05-04 06:59:54 AM

gadian: AdrienVeidt: And why is Al that 'begat' stuff so important while everything between Jesus' birth and age 30 irrelevant?

And if the whole of Creation an experiment about Humanity's free will and what we do with it, what would God have done if Judas had decided against betraying Jesus? Did God really let His Plan rest on one man, or was Judas pre-ordained - i.e. forced - to do it so there would be a point to Jesus' life as a man?

Man, Judas was just farked by God from the day he was born.  Can you imagine that realization that everything you've ever done in your whole life was just so you could get the son of God killed and that your free will meant nothing and that God chose you out of all humanity for this honor?  Before you were born.  I'd hang myself too.


And God hardened the heart of the Pharaoh many times.. just to make sure he got to use all of the plagues on him.  What a prick.
 
2013-05-04 07:00:18 AM

Dimensio: IlGreven: FurbyGoneFubar: Snopes also included the other side of the test:  http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

[www.snopes.com image 500x667]

18 is precious.  I've got an idea: When these sorts of people tell you about how great Jesus Christ is, just ask them "Were you there?"

They will respond by explaining that they were not there, but that the Author of the book who explains what occurred was there.

I have been informed that requesting validation of their claim of the book's authorship is an attack against Christianity.


So to sum it up:

-Scientific data that has been able to calculate how old the universe is = Fake
-The age of the universe as told by some guys who wrote the book long after the universe was created = totes legit

And I say all of this as a Christian.
 
2013-05-04 07:00:24 AM
randomjsa (farkied: "Holy fnck you're an idiot." - Nina_Hartley's_Ass): Yes, the test is stupid and just the sort of thing you expect out of Christians but the way the article downplays how people have been reacting toward the school as just "criticism" is highly misleading as well.

Yeah, the noive of some people, insisting that a science class should teach actual science.
 
2013-05-04 07:01:40 AM

Alphax: And God hardened the heart of the Pharaoh many times.. just to make sure he got to use all of the plagues on him. What a prick.


Don't even get me started on creating angels with no free will who rebelled against him and that he directly, purposely created the source of all evil.
 
2013-05-04 07:04:10 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Were you there?


Yes actually, yes I was there and no, it did not happen like that at all.
No that isn't a dinosaur feather in my hat, you may not touch it.
 
2013-05-04 07:04:37 AM

namatad: /Is that incest, brotherly love, or masterbation?


Don't even get started on god being Jesus's father... but god and jesus are the same..

AverageAmericanGuy: Were you there?


Yes. next question?

AverageAmericanGuy: The ark was big enough for the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs were only the size of sheep


How the fark do you know? Were you there?
 
2013-05-04 07:04:38 AM

Mrtraveler01: FurbyGoneFubar: Snopes also included the other side of the test:  http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

[www.snopes.com image 500x667]

It's more horrifying than the first page.


Most of that stuff is verbatim Ken Ham material. "Were you there?" and "Billions of dead things buried in rock layers covered by water all over the earth" have been Ken Ham catchphrases since at least the '90's.
 
2013-05-04 07:06:07 AM

maddogdelta: AverageAmericanGuy: The ark was big enough for the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs were only the size of sheep

How the fark do you know? Were you there?


I see what you did there.
 
2013-05-04 07:08:57 AM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: randomjsa (farkied: "Holy fnck you're an idiot." - Nina_Hartley's_Ass): Yes, the test is stupid and just the sort of thing you expect out of Christians but the way the article downplays how people have been reacting toward the school as just "criticism" is highly misleading as well.

Yeah, the noive of some people, insisting that a science class should teach actual science.


It would be fine if the criticism stopped there.  But it goes far beyond that, as this thread demonstrates.
 
2013-05-04 07:09:17 AM
Does anyone know the actual average size of dinosaurs (and/or where I can find that info)? I gave it a go when I first saw this shiat, but I had no luck in finding an 'average' size.

Plus, it doesn't even say which era, so if it's 'dinosaurs over all time' are we counting chickens or what?
 
2013-05-04 07:09:29 AM

gadian: Don't even get me started on creating angels with no free will who rebelled against him and that he directly, purposely created the source of all evil.


Yes, the first of the host if I remember (and thus the prototype), cast out of heaven for being remarkably human in his attitude (fark this, fark you).

OTOH the Bible does seem to intimate that if you don't try and fark with him he won't try and fark with you for the most part.  Unlike his creator who can, will and repeatedly does fark with a great many people for pure lulz.
 
2013-05-04 07:09:31 AM

Old enough to know better: Captain Dan: I hadn't even heard of Young Earth creationism until I was 18.  My first encounter was through a YE creationist, who made some comment about Satan planting fossils to deceive us.  Because I didn't know that creationism was an actual thing, I laughed at his joke.

It stunned me when I was told that it wasn't a joke.  I was sure that I had just met the dumbest person in the entire world.  When I later learned that multiple people believe this, I felt disoriented, like the world as I knew and loved it was gone forever, the way that Baby Boomers must have felt when JFK died.

I f I ever meet one of these people, my reply is going to be something along the lines of "So your God is kind of an asshole then?"


If the account in Genesis is true, then God needs to have His engineering license pulled.  The whole world went to schitt because Adam and Eve ate from the wrong tree?  If I built an airplane that fell apart on the failure of a single rivet, the FAA would never let it fly, yet God in His infinite wisdom builds the whole world with a glaring single point of failure?

Or maybe God did it on purpose -- set Adam and Eve up.  Suppose I built a church in soaring Gothic architecture, but with explosives on the load-bearing elements triggered by a rope hanging from a ceiling.  A sign reading DO NOT PULL THIS ROPE OR YOU WILL SURELY DIE is unlikely to save any lives or excuse me.  Y'all know as well as I that sooner or later some wise guy is going to give that rope a good solid yank.
 
2013-05-04 07:09:44 AM
An issue I have with the article:

How horrible it must be to feel it necessary to lie to children because of your own insecurity. What a sad way to go through life, needing to have everyone you know - and often those you don't - believe exactly the same as you.

The problem here is these people are not "lying" in the sense that they are willfully deceiving these children.  The problem is that they fully believe YE creationism as facts, that they are horribly misguided in their version of "science" and are teaching gullible children things that are not "science" in a science classroom.  At least give the parent of this child some credit -- he's pulling his child out of this "school" at the end of the school year.

Now, when you teach the children YE creationism and then teach them "what to say" on an actual science test to get the right answers on evolution, you are then teaching children to lie.  I'm pretty sure an angel loses its wings when you do that.  Way to go, Christians.
 
2013-05-04 07:11:12 AM

maddogdelta: How the fark do you know? Were you there?


No he wasn't, hey remember me?  I did the doughnut run whilst we were watching the T.Rex's.
 
2013-05-04 07:11:41 AM

Dog Welder: when you teach the children YE creationism and then teach them "what to say" on an actual science test to get the right answers on evolution, you are then teaching children to lie.  I'm pretty sure an angel loses its wings when you do that.  Way to go, Christians.


Lighten up, Francis. There's no such thing as angels.
 
2013-05-04 07:13:08 AM

AdrienVeidt: And why is Al that 'begat' stuff so important while everything between Jesus' birth and age 30 irrelevant?


Have you read any of the infancy gospels? IMO they were to embarrassed to include that stuff in the bible.
 
2013-05-04 07:13:08 AM

Mrtraveler01: Old Man Winter: I thought decide what and how to teach was the point of private parochial school.  If this were a public school, I could understand why everyone is so smugly smugly superior in pointing out that it is not science but, I mean come on, it is a religious school.

It's true. They can teach what they want.

But my God, way to set up those kids for failure in the future.

The best hope these kids have is to work as a stock boy/girl at Food Lion.

All that being said, the person sent their kid to a religious school in a part of SC that is notorious for taking religion to derpy extremes. Was that parent really expecting a quality education at this school?


The parent was probably thinking something like, I want my daughter to grow up not to be sexually promiscuous, using drugs, covered in tattoos, rebellious against religious or social authority, etc. And he thinks that a Christian academy is going to accomplish that.

So he may end up with a teen daughter whi is everything he didn't want her to be, precisely because she's profoundly ignorant about literally everything.
 
2013-05-04 07:13:14 AM

Lady Indica: Does anyone know the actual average size of dinosaurs (and/or where I can find that info)? I gave it a go when I first saw this shiat, but I had no luck in finding an 'average' size.

Plus, it doesn't even say which era, so if it's 'dinosaurs over all time' are we counting chickens or what?


This is Sue, the T-Rex that is on display at the Field Museum in Chicago. I guess God just put this here to test our faith:

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-04 07:15:22 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Dog Welder: when you teach the children YE creationism and then teach them "what to say" on an actual science test to get the right answers on evolution, you are then teaching children to lie.  I'm pretty sure an angel loses its wings when you do that.  Way to go, Christians.

Lighten up, Francis. There's no such thing as angels.


Says you:

ts2.mm.bing.net

/Yes I know it turns out to be fake in the end
 
2013-05-04 07:15:44 AM

Mrtraveler01: Lady Indica: Does anyone know the actual average size of dinosaurs (and/or where I can find that info)? I gave it a go when I first saw this shiat, but I had no luck in finding an 'average' size.

Plus, it doesn't even say which era, so if it's 'dinosaurs over all time' are we counting chickens or what?

This is Sue, the T-Rex that is on display at the Field Museum in Chicago. I guess God just put this here to test our faith:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 800x600]


No, a team of men put it there. God is so much greater than Man.
 
2013-05-04 07:15:59 AM
LordJiro:

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. What's a cubit?

Let's see here, I used to know what a cubit was...
 
2013-05-04 07:16:19 AM
Since evolution is a fact, we only have to wait for the fundamentalists to winnow themselves from the gene pool.
 
2013-05-04 07:16:34 AM

Mrtraveler01: AverageAmericanGuy: Dog Welder: when you teach the children YE creationism and then teach them "what to say" on an actual science test to get the right answers on evolution, you are then teaching children to lie.  I'm pretty sure an angel loses its wings when you do that.  Way to go, Christians.

Lighten up, Francis. There's no such thing as angels.

Says you:

[ts2.mm.bing.net image 300x230]

/Yes I know it turns out to be fake in the end


"the Simpsons did it" has become irrefutable evidence.
 
2013-05-04 07:17:04 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Math: Given a path 100 feet wide, 100 feet deep long, and 17 miles across, how many cubic cubits of water did Moses dump on Pharoah when he unparted the Red Sea?

/show your work


Let's see...assuming a standard mile of 5280 feet and a standard cubit of 18 inches...
 

17 miles = 1077120 inches
100 ft = 1200 inches

12002 = 1440000 square inches

1077120 * 1200 = 1292544000 square inches

1292544000 / 18 = 71808000 square cubits

1440000 / 18 = 80000 square cubits

1292544000 *  80000  = 103,403,520,000,000 cubic cubits.

I think...I was an English major.
 
2013-05-04 07:17:47 AM

Bubbacus: Since evolution is a fact, we only have to wait for the fundamentalists to winnow themselves from the gene pool.


That may take a while, with all the babies they have, either through ignorance, or to deliberately birth an army for God.
 
2013-05-04 07:17:55 AM

Mrtraveler01: This is Sue, the T-Rex that is on display at the Field Museum in Chicago. I guess God just put this here to test our faith:


You know, I really hope their tails were prehensile.  Can you imagine how grumpy Sue would have been if she had an itch in a spot her back legs couldn't reach?  And I also just like the idea of dinosaurs with prehensile tails.
 
2013-05-04 07:18:56 AM
"These secularists want to impose their anti-God religion on the culture. "

Great. Now objective reality is a religion.
 
2013-05-04 07:19:05 AM

planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x195]

Most of us had parents who taught us to accept their religious beliefs as undeniable fact. But, do we have a right or obligation to ourselves to question a few things? (new window)


Very nice :D
 
2013-05-04 07:19:17 AM

Lady Indica: Does anyone know the actual average size of dinosaurs (and/or where I can find that info)? I gave it a go when I first saw this shiat, but I had no luck in finding an 'average' size.

Plus, it doesn't even say which era, so if it's 'dinosaurs over all time' are we counting chickens or what?


The reason you can't find it is that it's a pointless question from a scientific perspective. It's on this "quiz" to address a question every kid would ask: how did they get those huge dinosaurs on the ark? For once, they knew they couldn't use the old "God's special, mysterious magic" canard. Adults will swallow that shiat, and kids will on a lot of things. But not dinosaurs. The fundies grabbed a bear by the tail when they decided to incorporate dinosaurs into their fairy tale education program.
 
2013-05-04 07:19:21 AM

Lady Indica: Does anyone know the actual average size of dinosaurs (and/or where I can find that info)? I gave it a go when I first saw this shiat, but I had no luck in finding an 'average' size.


Estimates of median dinosaur mass range from 500 kg to 5 metric tons,
 
2013-05-04 07:19:24 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Mrtraveler01: Lady Indica: Does anyone know the actual average size of dinosaurs (and/or where I can find that info)? I gave it a go when I first saw this shiat, but I had no luck in finding an 'average' size.

Plus, it doesn't even say which era, so if it's 'dinosaurs over all time' are we counting chickens or what?

This is Sue, the T-Rex that is on display at the Field Museum in Chicago. I guess God just put this here to test our faith:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 800x600]

No, a team of men put it there. God is so much greater than Man.


Ironically the skeleton was found just outside of Faith, SD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sue_%28dinosaur%29

Coincidence?

/probably
 
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