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(Addicting Info)   Comrade Lamar Szmith of Soviet Texasz introduces bill to require Politburo approval before being allowed to publish any scientific papers. до свидания моя родина   (addictinginfo.org) divider line 246
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2013-05-03 10:08:39 PM  
So stupid I cant even form a worthwhile comment
 
2013-05-03 10:38:06 PM  

mtlls: So stupid I cant even form a worthwhile comment


It's not as if you've received approval to submit such a comment anyways.
 
2013-05-03 10:38:09 PM  
Congressman Lamar Smith is a leading example as to the disconnect within the Republican Party and reality. His "improvement" would compromise scientific research, and dismantle what little America has left for integrity.

Too late.  I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.
 
2013-05-03 10:58:46 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Congressman Lamar Smith is a leading example as to the disconnect within the Republican Party and reality. His "improvement" would compromise scientific research, and dismantle what little America has left for integrity.

Too late.  I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.


Pretty much. We've ceded that to the Asians and the Europeans.
 
2013-05-03 11:17:41 PM  
 
2013-05-04 12:24:49 AM  
Hey, remember a few threads ago when I accused Smith of wanting to put zampolits in charge of the NSF?  And remember those folks who told us we were overreacting and that Smith's requests were perfectly reasonable?  Fark all of you.
 
2013-05-04 12:52:48 AM  
Is this a repeat or some fresh bullshiat from Lamar?
 
2013-05-04 01:08:40 AM  
fta If the findings are not agreed to, the research is taken from the researchers and disposed of by Congress as it sees fit.

On the side wall of everyone's cubicle will be an oblong slit protected by a wire grating. Inside will be a current of warm air.
 
2013-05-04 01:38:00 AM  
And we have our next nominee to who should be strapped to a rocket and hurled into the Sun.  He can have the lone remaining seat right next to Alex Jones, since's he's gonna take up two.

/thinking a Soyuz-style capsule here
 
2013-05-04 01:41:31 AM  
This was expected when the noted anti-science Texan was appointed to the Congressional Committee on Science, Space and Technology

Damn terrifying that this jackass has this much political clout.
 
2013-05-04 01:42:43 AM  
That's frightening.
 
2013-05-04 01:43:08 AM  

bluorangefyre: And we have our next nominee to who should be strapped to a rocket and hurled into the Sun.  He can have the lone remaining seat right next to Alex Jones, since's he's gonna take up two.

/thinking a Soyuz-style capsule here


Since the research for this endeavor is against the will of Congress, all its funding has been revoked and the research destroyed
 
2013-05-04 01:48:03 AM  
why would you link to the bill in question if your plan is to dishonestly characterize what it says?
 
2013-05-04 01:51:28 AM  
When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.
 
2013-05-04 01:53:46 AM  

brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.


People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?
 
2013-05-04 01:55:44 AM  
Eppur si vitun muove, saatana!!
 
2013-05-04 02:00:34 AM  
File photo of Lamar Smith:

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-04 02:01:16 AM  

skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?


you're right, the article was inaccurate.  They just have to approve that the research follows the board's political agenda BEFORE instead of after.

That's way better.
 
2013-05-04 02:01:40 AM  

Apos: Is this a repeat or some fresh bullshiat from Lamar?


Wondering that myself.

*checks*

Ah, the last one was an attempt to strip the peer-review requirement for federally funded research.

SOPA writer Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) fresh off not knowing how the internet works, writes a bill not knowing how science works either and removing peer-review from NSF grant requirements

So not really "fresh" as much as "re-heated".
 
2013-05-04 02:03:57 AM  

skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?


There was a link to the draft bill. Here, read it yourself.
 
2013-05-04 02:07:17 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?

you're right, the article was inaccurate.  They just have to approve that the research follows the board's political agenda BEFORE instead of after.

That's way better.


the author of TFA just made some shiat up
 
2013-05-04 02:07:54 AM  
Here guys, I'll save you the trouble (though the draft is only 2 pages long):

i39.tinypic.com

"Finest quality", "Ground breaking", "Utmost importance"? How does anyone get away with trying to pass a law with such vague-ass language?
 
2013-05-04 02:07:57 AM  

fusillade762: skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?

There was a link to the draft bill. Here, read it yourself.


yeah, that's the point. I read the bill. The author clearly did not
 
2013-05-04 02:10:29 AM  
Why is this farkstick in charge of anything having to do with science?
 
2013-05-04 02:10:31 AM  

skullkrusher: The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?

you're right, the article was inaccurate.  They just have to approve that the research follows the board's political agenda BEFORE instead of after.

That's way better.

the author of TFA just made some shiat up


Point and you are in no danger of a mid-air collision
 
2013-05-04 02:12:35 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?

you're right, the article was inaccurate.  They just have to approve that the research follows the board's political agenda BEFORE instead of after.

That's way better.

the author of TFA just made some shiat up

Point and you are in no danger of a mid-air collision


ah, the old "any criticism of undesirable thing X is valid regardless of veracity". You win
 
2013-05-04 02:13:42 AM  

skullkrusher: The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: The All-Powerful Atheismo: skullkrusher: brichter: When future historians are autopsying the corpse of the american empire, I think this kind of thing is going to be very interesting.

People blindly accepting claims that an article makes without actually reading what it refers to?

you're right, the article was inaccurate.  They just have to approve that the research follows the board's political agenda BEFORE instead of after.

That's way better.

the author of TFA just made some shiat up

Point and you are in no danger of a mid-air collision

ah, the old "any criticism of undesirable thing X is valid regardless of veracity". You win


Point and you are in separate time zones
 
2013-05-04 02:17:51 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Too late. I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.


Nope. There are multiple topics where if the research comes out of America, we need to substantiate the hell out of it from other sources outside at which point, why not just use that other research?
 
2013-05-04 02:21:44 AM  
These hillbilly POS d!ckheads need to secede or STFU. I don't want to be in a country that's associated with these dumbshiats anymore. These rednecks need to GTFO or STFU.
 
2013-05-04 02:30:46 AM  
WTF? this bill needs to die so fast it catches fire.
 
2013-05-04 02:30:51 AM  
Its the party of "small" government at it again.

i.qkme.me
 
2013-05-04 02:43:02 AM  
It's funny how much Republicans mirror Communists. They have their own huge propaganda network in Fox News and co., Presidents and presidential candidates who make the Party look bad are basically ignored, other Presidents are elevated to near-legendary status, they attempt to force their political system onto other nations because it's CLEARLY the best....

Like I said, funny.
 
2013-05-04 02:45:15 AM  
The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.
 
2013-05-04 02:48:19 AM  

LordJiro: It's funny how much Republicans mirror Communists. They have their own huge propaganda network in Fox News and co., Presidents and presidential candidates who make the Party look bad are basically ignored, other Presidents are elevated to near-legendary status, they attempt to force their political system onto other nations because it's CLEARLY the best....

Like I said, funny.


Seems a bit like Animal Farm, Part 2.
 
2013-05-04 02:51:33 AM  

make me some tea: Benevolent Misanthrope: Congressman Lamar Smith is a leading example as to the disconnect within the Republican Party and reality. His "improvement" would compromise scientific research, and dismantle what little America has left for integrity.

Too late.  I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.

Pretty much. We've ceded that to the Asians and the Europeans.


Credibility has resided in multinational reviewed journals pretty exclusively for a little over half a century now.  Though, that said, European and American researchers certainly have a leg up on the "actually considered real scientists" thing since China and eastern Asia in general have produced a large volume of blatantly incorrect papers in the last few decades.

Basically, if the government of the UK or France or whatever publishes something, it won't be particularly considered necessarily reliable either.  Which is why we mostly just fund it and it's reviewed and published by, y'know, science orgs instead of governments.
 
2013-05-04 02:53:24 AM  
Wait, you mean Canada has done something before the United States?

thanks a lot Harper you ass-clown.
 
2013-05-04 02:53:50 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.


After all, the only things we need as a society are things that CEOs can profit off of, right? Or will corporations sink money into research with no immediately-obvious profit potential?
 
2013-05-04 02:55:51 AM  
Sounds about like what I would expect from a defanged head crab.
 
2013-05-04 02:58:41 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.


and research universities should be defunded. All those graduate students are wasting their time and should get real jobs in the food services.
 
2013-05-04 03:00:16 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.


So who exactly should be funding basic research in your opinion?  The tooth fairy?
 
2013-05-04 03:02:07 AM  

ucfknightryan: AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.

So who exactly should be funding basic research in your opinion?  The tooth fairy?


I think he was sarcastic, but it's hard to tell.
 
2013-05-04 03:05:22 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Congressman Lamar Smith is a leading example as to the disconnect within the Republican Party and reality. His "improvement" would compromise scientific research, and dismantle what little America has left for integrity.

Too late.  I dont think anyone sees America as having scientific or political integrity any more.


Or integrity for that matter
 
2013-05-04 03:06:33 AM  

Phoenix87ta: mtlls: So stupid I cant even form a worthwhile comment

It's not as if you've received approval to submit such a comment anyways.

Animooted
 
2013-05-04 03:10:54 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.


This is such an obviously idiotic statement I don't even have to make a joke about your impressive stupidity. Thanks a lot jerk!
 
2013-05-04 03:11:34 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: Why is this farkstick in charge of anything having to do with sciencepossession of his own skin?


This is what tarring and feathering were made for.
 
2013-05-04 03:12:28 AM  

ScaryBottles: AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.

This is such an obviously idiotic statement I don't even have to make a joke about your impressive stupidity. Thanks a lot jerk!


You done bit on one of our more infamous trolls.

/Welcome to Fark.
 
2013-05-04 03:17:26 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.


It takes someone who received a SPECIAL brand of EDUCATION to make a comment that enlightened.
 
2013-05-04 03:20:08 AM  
The party of small government, ladies and gentlemen!
 
2013-05-04 03:20:18 AM  

ucfknightryan: AverageAmericanGuy: The government shouldn't be in the business of funding research anyway.

So who exactly should be funding basic research in your opinion?  The tooth fairy?


If a student is dead set on investigating a topic, then he should pay for the chance to research it. If a school feels that such research is worthwhile, the school ought to provide additional funds to allow the student to see the research to fruition. Those funds can come from tuition, private grants, alumni endowments, partnerships with business, or bake sales, if that's what it takes to raise those funds.

Demanding that the entire nation pay up so some 23 year old can study the mating habits of high school graduates in a high-pressure academic environment is worse than demanding that we all pay up for socialized medicine. At least we all benefit from socialized medicine.
 
2013-05-04 03:20:34 AM  
Inquisitors and apparatchiks implementing their progrom, that is all, comrade citizen. In order to prove, once and for all, that `big' government is the enemy, they throw wrecking bars into the turbines and then, when the lights start going out, blame the `regulations; of Big Government for the blackout.

If any of this shiat actually made it past the `nuisance' stage, just who did Smith appoint to chair the Science Subcommittee on Investigations and Oversight?  Why, Rep. Broun, of course.  You remember:

All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell.

/only thing that would improve my outlook on these two would be their commitment to testing their research hypothesis on the existence of heaven by eating their NRA issued side arms immediately
//peer reviews? anyone??
 
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