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2013-05-03 11:53:08 PM
4 votes:
Syria wont do shiat, nothing more will come of this. They aren't going to go to war with Israel while in the middle of a civil war, that would only ensure Assad's defeat.
2013-05-03 11:47:02 PM
4 votes:
Farking Israel...
2013-05-03 11:46:19 PM
4 votes:
Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.
2013-05-03 09:20:44 PM
4 votes:
FTA: We know that the Israeli position is they will strike at Syria if they see weapons being transferred from syria to hezbollah forces in lebanon."
According to CNN, these strikes appear not to have been targeted at chemical weapons.
And, importantly, Israeli planes, according to Syria, do not appear to have entered Syrian airspace.

So... sounds like the Israeli'shiat a transfer of weapons to terrorists in a volatile region, their backyard (possibly even in their own airspace).

Better for them to help out in that region than just giving out weapons to 'rebels'.
2013-05-04 02:17:33 PM
3 votes:

Amos Quito: As soon as Palestine is declared a "state" Israel will attack.


/One State solution becomes Final Solution


You know what's hilarious besides your usual ignorance and jew-hate ? the exact opposite actually happened, the moment modern Israel was declared a state back in 1948, the arabs attacked in order to slaughter every jew. They failed spectacularly.

And the palestinians declared their "state" back in 1988. You sure know your history.
2013-05-04 09:09:58 AM
3 votes:
Untwist your panties, there ain't gonna be no war, the Israelis identified a potential threat in Syrian territory and eliminated it. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last. The Israelis are not interested in starting a Syrian war and the Syrians are too busy brutally murdering each other to get involved in an Israeli war; the Egyptians are too busy spending the copious bribe money we send them each year to start swinging their teeny tiny dicks militarily. much as many of them would like to. Didn't Turkey carry out some airstrikes in Syria a few months ago? Why is it bad only when the Israelis protect themselves against an obvious threat?
2013-05-04 12:13:23 AM
3 votes:

imontheinternet: Popcorn Johnny: Fark is gonna be awesome once all the poor kids get drafted.

ftfy

The rich and amoral have always found ways to exempt themselves from civic duty requirements.  The middle class can take advantage, too.  They just have to mortgage their dreams to save their children's lives.  Of course, if you weren't born into any amount of money, you're pretty much f*cked.  AMERICA F*CK YEAH


Anyone not born into wealth anywhere is f*cked. Most people in the world are pretty f*cked. The f*cked people in America are still better off than most of the world. Everything is basically a bunch of bullshiat for everyone. We just pick on the one that seems most obvious to us. The fact you have a mattress and a pillow automatically puts you above most people. But keep on it!
2013-05-03 11:51:55 PM
3 votes:

SubBass49: Farking Israel...


Yes, everything is Israel's fault. Whatever help's you sleep at night, pal.
2013-05-03 11:50:34 PM
3 votes:
Just remember, folks: When were balls deep and billions in debt in Syria, the Israelis had NOTHING to do with it.


/Just
//Remember
///Folks


Iran, anyone?
2013-05-03 11:45:06 PM
3 votes:
api.ning.com
2013-05-03 11:43:12 PM
3 votes:
jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com

Just getting this one out of the way.


NostroZ: sounds like the Israeli'shiat a transfer of weapons


Heh, filterpwned.
2013-05-04 09:42:07 AM
2 votes:

sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]


The Gospel of John says the Serpent and Christ are kindred spirits.

John 9 & 10 tells the story of Jesus healing a blind apostate of Judaism. The story mirrors the structure of the Genesis story, featuring a man "blind since birth." Just as Adam and Eve disobeyed Jehovah by following the Serpent, so did the blind man disobey the religious authorities of his day by following Jesus. Just as Jehovah interrogates Adam and Eve after they eat from the tree, so do the pharisees interrogate the blind man after he is healed. Just as Jehovah expelled Adam and Eve for their disobedience, so do the pharisees expel the blind man from the temple for his.

Several passages indicate the Genesis reference is intentional, and intended to convey a relationship between the Serpent and Christ. First, the story uses the phrase "opened his eyes" to describe what Jesus did to the blind man. Genesis uses the phrase "opened their eyes" to describe what happened after Adam and Eve ate the fruit.

Moreover, John 9:32 says "Since the world began was it not heard that any man opened the eyes of one that was born blind." Clearly calling to mind Genesis. And again using the phrase "opened the eyes," just as Genesis uses the same phrase when Adam and Eve gain their sight.

10:19-21 features Jews debating whether or not Jesus is from God, or is a demon possessed madman. A credulous Jew resolves the issue with the rhetorical question "These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?" The apparent import of the question being that Jesus must have come from God, because demons cannot possibly open the eyes of the blind.

But if demons can't open the eyes of the blind, then how did the Serpent? Don't get hung up on the word "demon" either. Some translations say "devil." Some say "evil spirit." The point of the question is that Jesus could not have been demon/devil/evil spirit possessed because none of them can open the eyes of the blind.

There is one answer that can rescue the orthodox Genesis interpretation from the implications of John 9 & 10. That is that the Serpent didn't open anyone's eyes, the fruit did. All the Serpent did was tell Eve to eat it. But this argument ignores all the obviously intentional parallels between the stories to get hung up on a turn of phrase. I find much more persuasive the proposition the story is intended to convey that the Serpent and Jesus came from the same place.

What is that place? Some believe John was written by a "gnostic" Christian. And if my interpretation of John 9 & 10 is correct, I would have to guess the author was what was called a "Sethian Gnostic." Sethian Gnostics in particular believed that Jehovah was the demiurge, who they viewed as a malevolent being who enslaved humans for his own narcissistic gratification. They cited numerous Old Testament passages for the proposition that Jehovah was less than omnipotent, vain, and cruel; all in all, just not very god like. The place both Jesus and the Serpent came from, to them, was called the Pleroma, or what most would think of as heaven.

So maybe it wasn't Jesus who was Satan, but Jehovah.

tl;dr John 9 & 10 suggests Jesus and the Serpent both came from God, because John 9 & 10 parallels the structure of story of the fall, uses similar language to describe what Jesus and the Serpent did, and ends with a rhetorical question the apparent answer to which indicates that neither Jesus nor the Serpent were demons/devils/evil spirits.
2013-05-04 06:07:08 AM
2 votes:

kgloverfl: Little boy and fat man? Acceptable or not? Must have been acceptable because the World Police didn't bomb us afterward.


Oh goodie, we're going into historical revisionism now with badly construed moral comparisons and ignoring historical factors that make it totally different.

Let's start off, shall we.

1) Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate military targets. This is one of the most important key factors that revisionists like to ignore, or paint as untrue.
2) Japan was given multiple instances where they would have been allowed to surrender and not suffer the wrath of the Allies through the bombings. The whole reason to demand an unconditional surrender was so that the Emperor could not remain in power as a "living God" to his people, and begin another era of Japanese imperialism.
3) The civilian people of Japan were warned through massive leaflet drop campaigns to GTFO.
4) Even after the bomb was dropped, elements of the Imperial Japanese Army stormed the imperial palace in an attempt to keep the Emperor from surrendering, and ending the war.
5) Dropping the bombs saved hundreds of thousands of lives on the Allied side, as well as possibly kept the entire Japanese people from being slaughtered, and the destruction of Japanese culture from occurring.
6) Since this event, the use of Nuclear Weapons has been deemed so horrendous and unthinkable that the world coined the phrase mutually assured destruction, and acted based on that philosophy.

But yes. Let's continue comparing this with the indiscriminate use of chemical weapons in a modern age against a civilian population with the lesser choice between two unthinkable choices during World War II.
2013-05-04 12:32:32 AM
2 votes:

Stone Meadow: globalwarmingpraiser: spiderpaz

calling out farkers not in thread.

Yeah...bad form. Shabbos started several hours ago in NY (where I believe my favorite Zionist is hanging these days), so we won't see him for another 18 hours or so.

In any case, TFA says the Israeli jets didn't enter Syrian airspace, so I imagine they waited until the convoy entered Lebanon before hitting the trucks with missiles and/or smart bombs. Shiat, maybe they launched from within Israeli airspace before hooking a hard 180 without entering the airspace of ANY other country. I also bet they had tacit Arab League approval. Those guys really don't want chemical weapons spilling out into the souqs.

/political Zionist
//two state supporter



Looking at the history of the former, I really don't see where these two positions could possibly be compatible.

As soon as Palestine is declared a "state" Israel will attack.


/One State solution becomes Final Solution
2013-05-04 12:17:12 AM
2 votes:
Would be hard to argue that a crazy dictator's chemical weapons being destroyed is a bad thing, especially if we had nothing (directly) to do with it.
2013-05-04 12:14:02 AM
2 votes:
So if I got the story straight, the Israelis warned they would take out any transfer of weapons to terrorists, and their jets (without leaving Israeli airspace), turned a bunch of shady assholes into smears on the ground?  I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this.  Though I'm sure a bunch terrorist sock puppets will denounce it, anyway.
2013-05-04 12:10:49 AM
2 votes:

kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...


Not when mixed together.
2013-05-04 12:01:56 AM
2 votes:

Zeppelininthesky: I am hoping nothing will come of this.


It won't. Syria is a pariah state and anybody can do anything to them and nobody will blink. Even Russia's given up on them.
2013-05-03 11:57:29 PM
2 votes:
Alls I know is if we don't do what Israel wants it means our administration is anti-semitic.
2013-05-03 11:56:38 PM
2 votes:
This is what happens when Jeff Hanneman dies - the Metalocalypse has began.
2013-05-03 11:55:58 PM
2 votes:

globalwarmingpraiser: Deathfrogg: spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.

Who says we still give a damn about what Israel does? They have their own fish to fry, and their political leaders are all zionists.

Stupid is, as stupid dies.

This was going to be done, I am just glad we(the US) aren't doing it.


Ziamese twins - joined at the foreskin.
2013-05-03 11:53:49 PM
2 votes:
As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.
2013-05-03 11:52:18 PM
2 votes:
So...it has come to this.
2013-05-03 11:50:47 PM
2 votes:
So it's the weekend in the middle east.
2013-05-03 11:46:10 PM
2 votes:

Lsherm: So no airspace violation, which I assume means missiles of some sort.

I find it hilarious this wasn't considered serious when CNN broke it, but now that MSNBC is reporting it, it seems legit.


Unless it's a celebrity couple breaking up CNN isn't a source I would use.
2013-05-03 11:45:05 PM
2 votes:
I call the next headline: Carnage Assad-a
2013-05-03 11:43:48 PM
2 votes:
Seems underwhelming to me.
I mean, yeah it's more newsworthy than "mugshots of hot chicks", but I don't think it's a major escalation or anything.
2013-05-05 03:45:28 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: 'Israel may be behind Syrian chemical weapons use'


Oh i'm sure you believe that is 100% true.

Amos Quito: That's right, Colin Powell's former Chief


The same guy who was responsible for the information used by Powell in 2003 at the UN when he presented his data about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.
But what he says is against them jews so let's take his guess as fact. Right, anti-semite retard ?

Amos Quito: And as the Zionist State is in total disregard for the benefit of the Syrian People, but only for their own selfish, racist interests, I would think that it would be wise to suspect their well known duplicity, and to expect that ANY "intelligence" they offer is likely purely self-serving, and should be regarded as such until proven otherwise.


I like how you even adopted the islamic jihadists phrases, 'the zionist state'. That's why you are my favorite Fark's anti-semite.
2013-05-05 03:27:17 AM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Because clearly it did exist?


It didn't, such a country/nation never ever existed. Again, you're confusing British Mandate of Palestine with an arab country called Palestine which never existed.
This is what the palestinians are claiming, very clearly.

Amos Quito: Tappy is a piece of work.

His lies are so blatant and transparent, his arguments so ludicrous, and his positions so despicable that I honestly wonder whether he is, as he claims, an "atheist Jew" living in Israel.

Tappy lies so shamelessly that I wonder if he is in fact a clever anti-Semite pretending to be an Israeli Jew for the express purpose of making ALL Jews, Israelis and Zionists look bad.

If so, he's doing a fabulous job.


Amos Quitois apparently still in his projection stage after the last time i exposed his anti-semitic lying bullshiat and his lack of basic knowledge of history, which is evident in this thread as well.
2013-05-04 03:32:06 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_i nstrument)


Thank you for proving my point. That is part of the British Mandate of Palestine, which also includes Jordan. Not the mythical arab "palestinian state" lie.
2013-05-04 03:20:56 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Then it is you who doesn't know your history.


Apparently i know it better than you. Just like i know that a palestinian country/nation (in the context the arabs who call themselves "palestinians" today) never existed.
2013-05-04 02:34:22 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: If all that had to happen was for Palestine to declare themselves a state, why is Israel still fighting recognition?


I think Israel is a bit upset that the palestinian state as de-facto declared by both palestinian factions, places their "state" where Israel now stands.

it was kind of awkward when Obama visited Rammallah and the palestinians had to remove statues of their "palestinian state" placed on what is now Israel.
2013-05-04 01:56:20 PM
1 votes:

nmemkha: jso2897: nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]

How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.

Or just bored and looking for a laugh. I always find it amusing when people who take their superstitions seriously get all butthurt.

No its willful ignorance of the subject matter. If I came here stating falsehoods about science would you give me a pass 'for blowing off steam'?


See now I'd think willful ignorance is pretending that the judeo-christian god is kind and loving and NOT an evil piece of garbage despite him ordering his followers to murder anyone who insists on worshiping other gods, ordering/permitting his followers to enslave other humans, justifying rape and instructing his followers to commit horrific war crimes... but I guess I must have been mistaken.
2013-05-04 12:24:24 PM
1 votes:

spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.


Yeah it's a good thing the Turks have never committed a genocide, stole land, or oppressed minorities...I guess it's OK though since they're muslim and did this to christians.
2013-05-04 12:02:06 PM
1 votes:

Stone Meadow: I'm going to give both Bush and Obama passing marks for the whole 'Arab Spring' thing. Sure, some countries went from bad to worse, but I think of it as a phase they have to go through to 'grow up' into responsible countries. There simply is no shortcut from dictatorship to relaxed, responsible majority rule that respects the rights of minorities.


All governments of that type have a short life expectancy in this day and age, North Korea night be excluded. Same with some Sub-Sharan African nations. If your people find way to get an internet connection, they are going to find out the sky isn't purple and their leader is not God.

It's not so much about "growing-up" as it is with wresting power from a handful of people and distributing it out to a different group of people. Sometimes it's just new boss, same as the old boss. Sometimes, after a lot of work and effort, and death, it can work out. We'll be studying the whole thing as it develops over the next few decades. I don't see the Kurds not fighting for a carve out to form a state. To me, that's still the biggest underlying threat because it involves like 6 countries and would basically impact the entire Middle East. So far so good. It just seems like that, to me, is going to be the next big thing after the Syrian thing plays itself out.
2013-05-04 11:21:17 AM
1 votes:

bugontherug: Sethian Gnostics in particular believed that Jehovah was the demiurge, who they viewed as a malevolent being who enslaved humans for his own narcissistic gratification.


This is always fun to bring up with Bible/Koran/Torah thumpers. All Abrahamic religion is based on picking-and-choosing what is convenient from the mythical traditions and events of the day and ignoring the stuff that gets (got) in the way of the desired message. For some reason, some seem to think age = credibility...sorry, just because a religion is old doesn't make it less laughable, folks.

The Sethians viewpoints actually make a lot more sense than the more common viewpoint that the murderous and morally ambivalent douchebag of a god in the Old Testament was actually worthy of adoration.
2013-05-04 10:54:12 AM
1 votes:

tuna fingers: Help me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt. The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers. That doesn't sit right with me. Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?


The "Arab Spring" has been an illusion all along.  While the people might want the dictators gone they're just replacing moderate dictators with Islamist ones.  This is a case of jumping from the frying pan to the fire.

KarmicDisaster: Last time Israel attacked Syria like this, they bombed a reactor under construction. The Syrians came in and cleaned it all up and pretended that nothing ever happened, so don't count on this starting a war.


No.  Last time was a shipment of missiles to Hezbollah.  Syria claimed a research facility was bombed but when you look the booms were in the parking lot.

You're thinking of a previous attack.
2013-05-04 10:41:51 AM
1 votes:
Last time Israel attacked Syria like this, they bombed a reactor under construction. The Syrians came in and cleaned it all up and pretended that nothing ever happened, so don't count on this starting a war.
2013-05-04 08:53:15 AM
1 votes:

MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.


Oh you're saying we need to go back a few hundred years to an imperialist stance and conquer those savages in the middle east.  It's this holier than thou attitude that got us into the messes in Vietnam and Iraq, and I don't care how we fight, its our very mindset that makes these puppet regimes untenable.  It's a noble cause to want to end human rights violations, but it needs to be done by the will of these countries' own people without the intervention of any third parties.  The US or Israel rolling in with their big swinging dicks just makes it harder for the side that fights for liberty to maintain their momentum, it makes it easier to turn youth and the uneducated to the side of the authoritarians.   Can you blame common Afghani's, Iraqi's, South Vietnamese, for being apprehensive when a bunch of foreigners roll into their town like they own place? It becomes incredibly easy to convince the masses that these foreigners are lying/corrupt and are going to take over the country. These civil wars and revolutions, as bloody and lousy as they are, need to be let to run their own, organic, course...they need to be fully owned by the Syrian people, if the cause gets "corporate sponsorship" from some random other country, it just ends up doing more harm than good.

The best we can do is just to cut off any economic relationship with the regimes that are guilty of human rights violations.  This is easier said than done, especially when the regime(s) in question sit in a region that is loaded with huge deposits of oil...
2013-05-04 08:38:40 AM
1 votes:

Psylence: omnibus_necanda_sunt: hydrazine

Hydrazine you say? Very interesting..... now where did I see that Astralite recipe..?


You do NOT wanna fark with hydrazine. It melts things.
2013-05-04 08:24:25 AM
1 votes:

MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.


Thats how the British Empire rationalized itself. And the French, and the Belgians and the Spanish. It's funny how nationalists and reactionaries consider their own perception to be the only legitimate and acceptable one. WE don't like what YOU are doing, because what YOU are doing is interfering with our bankers and industrialists desires to rob you farking blind. If you do not cease to interfere with our robbery, we will kill you and everyone we deem as having a resemblance to you.

This line of thought has always been the legitimacy offered to the domestic population of the Nation doing the conquering.  Even the "educated, enlightened liberal pacifist" types accepted the British Crown's propaganda about it during the Zulu and Boer Wars and the slaughters in Kenya, Rhodesia, Burma and India. Germany systematically executed 11 million people in WW2, and inflicted another 15-20 million casualties through combat action. They had a long country mile to go before they would have caught up with the British, French and Belgians over the 250 years previous to WW2.
2013-05-04 07:59:20 AM
1 votes:
The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.
2013-05-04 05:11:48 AM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Popcorn Johnny: Fark is gonna be awesome once all the kids get drafted.

There will never be another draft.  Warfare isn't waged primarily through boots on the ground anymore.  It's air, missile, and drone strikes followed by much smaller numbers of troops to root out the insurgents and keep the conquered from remounting any kind of organized resistance.


It would be nice, but, never say never.

The modern nation state still deals with existential threats by 1) throwing money at the problem, and 2) throwing bodies, usually young male bodies, at the problem.

The U.S. had the draft in the 19th and 20th centuries; I wouldn't bet any amount of money we won't see it again in the 21st.
2013-05-04 04:20:32 AM
1 votes:
I seems as though the oil has hit the anus.

/you're welcome
2013-05-04 03:53:00 AM
1 votes:

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Mustard gas is a blister agent. Nerve gas is just Raid Fast-Kill Low-IrritantTM for people. It also breaks down in the presence of water or sunlight. This instability is a main reason why verifying its use is so difficult.


Whereas mustard is so farking persistent that there's shiat in France that's still contaminated after 100 years, and that's not even counting the unexploded shells that get found on a near-daily basis.

Also, mustard gas can still kill / fark up your ass even if you're wearing a gas mask.   It basically melts flesh, especially warm moist flesh.   Like your crotch.  And you probably won't even notice you've been exposed until 8 - 12 hours after it happened and your junk is a mass of oozing chemical burns.
2013-05-04 03:42:01 AM
1 votes:
Hey remember that time Israel blew up a Syrian nuclear reactor? Fun times

Also the last strike into Syria/Lebanon was to stop Hezbollah from getting SAMs not chemical weapons
2013-05-04 03:15:37 AM
1 votes:

kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.


Pretty much, yeah.

Bullets kill what you point the gun at.
Poison gas kills every farking thing in the general area - friend, foe, and neutral and keeps on doing so for hours or even days.

Not to mention that gas is one of the most farking hideous ways to die known to man.   Mustard gas can take up to 3 (excruciatingly painful) weeks to kill you.  There's a reason every single country involved in WWI signed on to a ban on the use of chemical weapons - because that shiat is so farking scary that nobody wanted it used against them.

If you've got a strong stomach, Google for "effects of mustard gas".  And then keep in mind that modern chemical weapons make mustard gas (which is one of the oldest chemical warfare agents) look tame by comparison.
2013-05-04 02:26:36 AM
1 votes:

ShawnDoc: MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is

I prefer this Holy War song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-3Z1SSJy0



Even better.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYlUe-SDqA0
2013-05-04 01:40:30 AM
1 votes:

WeenerGord: WillyChase: Kittypie070: shower_in_my_socks: FALSE FLAG!!!!11!

[beats y'all like a red-headed stepchild with the Mighty Paw of Bastet]

How sick I am of that stupid stupid phrase.

What we need are a good few whiffle bat smacks for everyone who says it, serious or not


Why do you hate Freedom of Speech?


I don't hate Freedom of Speech.

I hate stupid bullsh*t phrases ganked from that fear-peddler Alex Jones and made to strut the streets as if they were legitimate concepts deserving of respect.
2013-05-04 01:36:36 AM
1 votes:

Revek: Its to bad the Jews and  the muslims over there don't love their children.


Pedo.
2013-05-04 01:27:29 AM
1 votes:
tallguywithglasseson:e sticking their dicks into it.

I'm alright with the US not committing any more to it than we already have.


Well said, we can call it Operation Not Our farking Problem, Bibi
2013-05-04 01:27:02 AM
1 votes:
Its to bad the Jews and  the muslims over there don't love their children.
2013-05-04 01:25:11 AM
1 votes:

Testiclaw: [i.imgur.com image 403x673]


Awesome, a variant!
2013-05-04 01:18:18 AM
1 votes:
There's a civil war going on in Syria.
Nobody should be surprised the Israelis are sticking their dicks into it.

I'm alright with the US not committing any more to it than we already have.
2013-05-04 01:17:46 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Stone Meadow: There are plenty of Jews both inside and outside Israel who support both the existence of the modern State of Israel as well as the two state solution. It's a minority position, of course, but it's not like it's some form of cognitive dissonance.

"Jews" and "Zionists".

These terms are not synonymous, and the latter is a pox on the former.


You're conflating the more aggressive forms of religious Zionism with political Zionism's practical recognition that Israel has existed for 65 years and isn't going to go away. As a country Israel has the right to a safe and secure existence, same as any other country. Calling them names and continuing to foment violence against them will only prolong the hostilities. Palestine knows what they need to do to make peace with Israel, and I think certain factions are scared shiatless that Assad's fall will mark the end of their support.
2013-05-04 01:14:55 AM
1 votes:
This can't be a real thing, it's not at the top of the Drudge Report.  Surely Isreal launching an airstrike against chemical weapons being transferred from Syria to Hezbollah is more important than Obama talking about guns being purchased in the US and smuggled into Mexico.
2013-05-04 01:10:10 AM
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: shiat just got ISRAEL.


FTFY
2013-05-04 01:09:44 AM
1 votes:
Israel is just pissed off at Google and needed to punch someone.
2013-05-04 01:07:15 AM
1 votes:

Stone Meadow: Nonsense. Palestine has been referring to itself as "Palestine" for some months now. The "Palestine Territories" moniker disappeared as soon as the UN gave them observer status. Israel's government has made a few grumbling noises, but they won't attack for anything like that reason.


It's interesting that the UN recognizes Palestine, but not Taiwan.
2013-05-04 01:06:48 AM
1 votes:

Amish Tech Support: BafflerMeal: [www.steveandmarta.com image 250x193]

Wow you made me feel old.

/You know played Shepherd from Firefly right?
/"Get lost."



GEHENNA: MORE THAN A PLACE, A WAY OF LIFE
2013-05-04 01:05:10 AM
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: FTA: "This would be the second time this year Israel conducted airstrikes inside Syria"

Meh.


This. Why the fark are some of you freaking out and wailing the world's doom?

(oh-noes.gif)
2013-05-04 01:00:45 AM
1 votes:

BafflerMeal: [www.steveandmarta.com image 250x193]


Wow you made me feel old.

/You know played Shepherd from Firefly right?
/"Get lost."
2013-05-04 01:00:44 AM
1 votes:
Given their geographic proximity to Syria, I'm surprised they stayed out of it for as long as they did.
2013-05-04 12:59:28 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Stone Meadow: /political Zionist
//two state supporter


Looking at the history of the former, I really don't see where these two positions could possibly be compatible.

Quite the contrary. There are plenty of Jews both inside and outside Israel who support both the existence of the modern State of Israel as well as the two state solution. It's a minority position, of course, but it's not like it's some form of cognitive dissonance.

As soon as Palestine is declared a "state" Israel will attack.

Nonsense. Palestine has been referring to itself as "Palestine" for some months now. The "Palestine Territories" moniker disappeared as soon as the UN gave them observer status. Israel's government has made a few grumbling noises, but they won't attack for anything like that reason.
2013-05-04 12:50:18 AM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: jshine: I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Israel would attack one of its neighbors!

What is this world coming to?

Calling them neighbors is being too generous.  If your 'neighbors' were constantly issuing death threats against you and funneled money and weapons to their cousins who were living on your land and who liked to shoot bottle rockets at your house randomly, you'd likely want to smack them around a bit every now and again as well.


Wait, who is on someone else's land? You saying Syria is on Israel's land?

OgreMagi: So if I got the story straight, the Israelis warned they would take out any transfer of weapons to terrorists, and their jets (without leaving Israeli airspace), turned a bunch of shady assholes into smears on the ground?  I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this.  Though I'm sure a bunch terrorist sock puppets will denounce it, anyway.


You're either with us or against us, right? and certain people are assholes who deserve to be smears on the ground. It's just a question of which people are the assholes. Oh, and agree with whoever is doing the killing or we call you a terrorist. Right.
2013-05-04 12:48:25 AM
1 votes:
www.steveandmarta.com
2013-05-04 12:47:59 AM
1 votes:
Alphax

Bin Laden looks up from Hell and wonders what drugs you're on. is still laughing so hard at America he can't say anything.

/just sayin'
2013-05-04 12:45:15 AM
1 votes:
Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

i.imgur.com
2013-05-04 12:44:11 AM
1 votes:

Number1Fan: Is this part of Israel's plan to start building Walmarts in Syria? Blow up all the Targets first?


Okay. You slipped that one in under the radar and made me laugh whilst maintaining a sarcastic smirk on my face.

For that, you get Total Fark'ed for a month.

Use this power wisely.
2013-05-04 12:42:46 AM
1 votes:

EnderX: Thank goodness we have a community organizer as our President! I'm sure he'll wait the appropriate amount of time, so others can take the flack and then make a uninspiring speech to show his lack of leadership.


If only we still had an actor for president, some stage-managed theatrics would surely save the day!
2013-05-04 12:42:39 AM
1 votes:

EnderX: Thank goodness we have a community organizer as our President! I'm sure he'll wait the appropriate amount of time, so others can take the flack and then make a uninspiring speech to show his lack of leadership.


Bin Laden looks up from Hell and wonders what drugs you're on.
2013-05-04 12:41:05 AM
1 votes:
Thank goodness we have a community organizer as our President! I'm sure he'll wait the appropriate amount of time, so others can take the flack and then make a uninspiring speech to show his lack of leadership.
2013-05-04 12:39:34 AM
1 votes:
Yay!!!! Someone to sell tanks too.

/Just need the U.S. government to cut a check to Israel first.
//Fight your own shiat.
2013-05-04 12:34:24 AM
1 votes:

kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.


Aww, look. It's the token thread Nihilist.

That makes the holocaust okay, right, because the Germans were just killing people?
2013-05-04 12:26:29 AM
1 votes:
It wasn't clear whether the Israelis alerted the U.S. before the attack. White House officials referred all questions to the Israelis.

Because when I have questions on a nation's foreign policies, I naturally ask their Dom sub no one can figure out who's what in this relationship ally instead of, you know, asking the nation themselves.

/What, are we de facto Israel now?
2013-05-04 12:25:43 AM
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BravadoGT: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

I think the indiscriminate method in which they kill is why they are distinguished from other weapons...anyway, them's the rules..


You really saying that bullets can't be indiscriminate?
2013-05-04 12:25:15 AM
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globalwarmingpraiser: spiderpaz

calling out farkers not in thread.


Yeah...bad form. Shabbos started several hours ago in NY (where I believe my favorite Zionist is hanging these days), so we won't see him for another 18 hours or so.

In any case, TFA says the Israeli jets didn't enter Syrian airspace, so I imagine they waited until the convoy entered Lebanon before hitting the trucks with missiles and/or smart bombs. Shiat, maybe they launched from within Israeli airspace before hooking a hard 180 without entering the airspace of ANY other country. I also bet they had tacit Arab League approval. Those guys really don't want chemical weapons spilling out into the souqs.

/political Zionist
//two state supporter
2013-05-04 12:13:45 AM
1 votes:

jshine: I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Israel would attack one of its neighbors!

What is this world coming to?


Calling them neighbors is being too generous.  If your 'neighbors' were constantly issuing death threats against you and funneled money and weapons to their cousins who were living on your land and who liked to shoot bottle rockets at your house randomly, you'd likely want to smack them around a bit every now and again as well.
2013-05-04 12:11:08 AM
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: Fark is gonna be awesome once all the poor kids get drafted.


ftfy

The rich and amoral have always found ways to exempt themselves from civic duty requirements.  The middle class can take advantage, too.  They just have to mortgage their dreams to save their children's lives.  Of course, if you weren't born into any amount of money, you're pretty much f*cked.  AMERICA F*CK YEAH
2013-05-04 12:08:01 AM
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RealAmericanHero: Hezbollah has always been a puppet supported by Hezbollah. The US and Israel have been mostly learning to the rebels the whole time. I wouldn't worry about it too much.


Yeah, I'm drunk. I mean Hezbollah has always been supported by Syria.
2013-05-04 12:05:02 AM
1 votes:
So when will Israel order US troops into Syria?
2013-05-04 12:02:35 AM
1 votes:
Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.
2013-05-04 12:01:59 AM
1 votes:

jshine: DarKrow: As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.

Meh, its complicated - the gov't are repressive assholes, but they're protective of minorities who might well be 'cleansed' should the rebels win.

There's probably no good outcome here.


And the rebels are hardly a single faction, so quite possibly more war to come even if they win. Plus the U.S. sucks balls at picking replacement leaders.

Ugh.
2013-05-04 12:01:40 AM
1 votes:

SubBass49: RealAmericanHero: SubBass49: Farking Israel...

Yes, everything is Israel's fault. Whatever help's you sleep at night, pal.

Well I certainly wouldn't be sleeping well if I lived in Syria, that's for sure...


As if you were the last 2 years while your President was killing your people with impunity.
2013-05-04 12:00:45 AM
1 votes:

MonkBard Nil: This is what happens when Jeff Hanneman dies - the Metalocalypse has began.


Nah, it's because it's Metallica Day for the Giants - Dodgers game, with Metallica performing the anthem. (The UNITED STATES NATION ANTHEM, ya big dummy.)
2013-05-03 11:59:04 PM
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: FALSE FLAG!!!!11!


[beats y'all like a red-headed stepchild with the Mighty Paw of Bastet]

How sick I am of that stupid stupid phrase.
2013-05-03 11:57:03 PM
1 votes:

DarKrow: As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.


Meh, its complicated - the gov't are repressive assholes, but they're protective of minorities who might well be 'cleansed' should the rebels win.

There's probably no good outcome here.
2013-05-03 11:55:44 PM
1 votes:
Hezbollah's aligned themselves with Assad's regime? That's gonna put Israel (and the U.S.) on the side of the rebels. But the whole region hates Israel, so...

shiat. shiat shiat shiat.

This ain't good.
2013-05-03 11:52:57 PM
1 votes:
FALSE FLAG!!!!11!
2013-05-03 11:50:36 PM
1 votes:

Deathfrogg: spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.

Who says we still give a damn about what Israel does? They have their own fish to fry, and their political leaders are all zionists.

Stupid is, as stupid dies.


This was going to be done, I am just glad we(the US) aren't doing it.
2013-05-03 11:49:41 PM
1 votes:
Let me drag these old vintages out of the cellar:

i140.photobucket.com

i140.photobucket.com
2013-05-03 11:49:30 PM
1 votes:

spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.


Who says we still give a damn about what Israel does? They have their own fish to fry, and their political leaders are all zionists.

Stupid is, as stupid dies.
2013-05-03 11:48:52 PM
1 votes:
So it begins, the great shiatstorm of our time.
2013-05-03 11:48:48 PM
1 votes:
www.charlock.org
2013-05-03 11:48:36 PM
1 votes:

Wittenberg Dropout: I call the next headline: Carnage Assad-a


Nice.
2013-05-03 11:48:09 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-05-03 11:47:27 PM
1 votes:
It has begun...
2013-05-03 11:46:37 PM
1 votes:
OH F*UCK
2013-05-03 11:45:48 PM
1 votes:
www.supplementinnercircle.com
2013-05-03 11:44:43 PM
1 votes:
What does CNN have to say?
 
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