TappingTheVein: Because it was The British Mandate of Palestine, which also included Jordan, ruled by the British.
cameroncrazy1984: Okay, and? The 13 American colonies were a set of British colonies which also included part of Canada, ruled by the British. Does that necessarily preclude a free American state on the North American continent?Obviously it doesn't, and that's the point.
TappingTheVein: How does that bare any comparison to the arab claim of their "arab nation of Palestine" which never existed
cameroncrazy1984: It's hard to argue with someone whose entire position is that America should not have a free state on the North American continent because prior to its founding it was called the American Colonies and was ruled by the British, therefore no Americans ever lived there prior to 1787.
Amos Quito: cameroncrazy1984: It's hard to argue with someone whose entire position is that America should not have a free state on the North American continent because prior to its founding it was called the American Colonies and was ruled by the British, therefore no Americans ever lived there prior to 1787.Tappy is a piece of work.His lies are so blatant and transparent, his arguments so ludicrous, and his positions so despicable that I honestly wonder whether he is, as he claims, an "atheist Jew" living in Israel.Tappy lies so shamelessly that I wonder if he is in fact a clever anti-Semite pretending to be an Israeli Jew for the express purpose of making ALL Jews, Israelis and Zionists look bad.If so, he's doing a fabulous job.And speaking of Zionists - Shabbat ends at 8:39 PM New York Time so I suspect we'll be hearing from the "Unsettled Settler" within the hour.
nmemkha: mongbiohazard: nmemkha: jso2897: nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.[i.imgur.com image 640x444]How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel? Pretty damn ignorant.Or just bored and looking for a laugh. I always find it amusing when people who take their superstitions seriously get all butthurt.No its willful ignorance of the subject matter. If I came here stating falsehoods about science would you give me a pass 'for blowing off steam'?See now I'd think willful ignorance is pretending that the judeo-christian god is kind and loving and NOT an evil piece of garbage despite him ordering his followers to murder anyone who insists on worshiping other gods, ordering/permitting his followers to enslave other humans, justifying rape and instructing his followers to commit horrific war crimes... but I guess I must have been mistaken.That's from the Old Testament and a great critique of Judaic Tradition (and relevant to this thread). But, what did Christ Himself specifically have to say on the issues you mentioned?
Deathfrogg: Sorry, Mr. FBI man, thats classified.
BuckTurgidson: "research center"?
quatchi: BuckTurgidson: "research center"?The Jamraya research center just outside Damascus.Israel already struck the place with missiles albeit less spectacularly back in January and this attack is now the third by Israel within Syria this year.Israel are calling the sophisticated ground to ground missiles "game changing" in terms of the impact they would have if Lebanese based Hezbollah militia guys got their hands on them and I can see their point.
Amos Quito: That's right, Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff is seriously implying that Israel may have deployed chemical weapons in Syria as a "False Flag" op with the intent of dragging the US (et al) into the conflict to serve the interests of the Zionist Regime.Would you be surprised?
quatchi: Amos Quito: That's right, Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff is seriously implying that Israel may have deployed chemical weapons in Syria as a "False Flag" op with the intent of dragging the US (et al) into the conflict to serve the interests of the Zionist Regime.Would you be surprised?A "Former" COS to the SOS and "retired" military man speculating with many qualifiers on Current TV that we don't have enough information to discern the truth behind the WMD use allegations at this point is not particularly surprising.Him throwing "false flag" charge into the mix *was* a bit of an eye opener."We don't know what the chain of custody is. This could've been an Israeli false flag operation, it could've been an opposition in Syria... or it could've been an actual use by Bashar Assad. But we certainly don't know with the evidence we've been given. And what I'm hearing from the intelligence community is that that evidence is really flakey," retired Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff, told Cenk Uygur in an interview with Current TV.Funny how current military types never seem to be able to speak out like this.
quatchi: Not saying his speculation is totally baseless here but it is a little wild and not particularly helpful.
quatchi: Bottom line is that Obama has already stated that he doesn't envision US boots on the ground in Syria and that Israel with Turkey's help should be able to deal with the situation.
quatchi: In the meantime government backed forces are killing Sunni families by the dozens in Banias causing thousands to flee for their lives.So there's that.There's no real good solution here just various degrees of hellish and less hellish.
TheGregiss: chocolate covered poop: MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.Oh you're saying we need to go back a few hundred years to an imperialist stance and conquer those savages in the middle east. It's this holier than thou attitude that got us into the messes in Vietnam and Iraq, and I don't care how we fight, its our very mindset that makes these puppet regimes untenable. It's a noble cause to want to end human rights violations, but it needs to be done by the will of these countries' own people without the intervention of any third parties. The US or Israel rolling in with their big swinging dicks just makes it harder for the side that fights for liberty to maintain their momentum, it makes it easier to turn youth and the uneducated to the side of the authoritarians. Can you blame common Afghani's, Iraqi's, South Vietnamese, for being apprehensive when a bunch of foreigners roll into their town like they own place? It becomes incredibly easy to convince the masses that these foreigners are lying/corrupt and are going to take over the country. These civil wars and revolutions, as bloody and lousy as they are, need to be let to run their own, organic, course...they need to be fully owned by the Syrian people, if the cause gets "corporate sponsorship" from some random other country, it just ends up doing more harm than good.The best we can do is just to cut off any economic relationship with the regimes that are guilty of human rights violations. This is easier said than done, especially when the regime(s) in question sit in a region that is loaded with huge deposits of oil...I've always been of the persuasion ...
cameroncrazy1984: Because clearly it did exist?
Amos Quito: Tappy is a piece of work.His lies are so blatant and transparent, his arguments so ludicrous, and his positions so despicable that I honestly wonder whether he is, as he claims, an "atheist Jew" living in Israel.Tappy lies so shamelessly that I wonder if he is in fact a clever anti-Semite pretending to be an Israeli Jew for the express purpose of making ALL Jews, Israelis and Zionists look bad.If so, he's doing a fabulous job.
Amos Quito: 'Israel may be behind Syrian chemical weapons use'
Amos Quito: That's right, Colin Powell's former Chief
Amos Quito: And as the Zionist State is in total disregard for the benefit of the Syrian People, but only for their own selfish, racist interests, I would think that it would be wise to suspect their well known duplicity, and to expect that ANY "intelligence" they offer is likely purely self-serving, and should be regarded as such until proven otherwise.
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