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2013-05-03 09:20:44 PM  
FTA: We know that the Israeli position is they will strike at Syria if they see weapons being transferred from syria to hezbollah forces in lebanon."
According to CNN, these strikes appear not to have been targeted at chemical weapons.
And, importantly, Israeli planes, according to Syria, do not appear to have entered Syrian airspace.

So... sounds like the Israeli'shiat a transfer of weapons to terrorists in a volatile region, their backyard (possibly even in their own airspace).

Better for them to help out in that region than just giving out weapons to 'rebels'.
 
2013-05-03 11:42:40 PM  
Sounds like the fit is hitting the shan.
 
2013-05-03 11:42:44 PM  
Boom Shakalaka. So it begins.
 
2013-05-03 11:43:09 PM  
www.charlock.org
 
2013-05-03 11:43:12 PM  
jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com

Just getting this one out of the way.


NostroZ: sounds like the Israeli'shiat a transfer of weapons


Heh, filterpwned.
 
2013-05-03 11:43:34 PM  
Here we go.
 
2013-05-03 11:43:48 PM  
Seems underwhelming to me.
I mean, yeah it's more newsworthy than "mugshots of hot chicks", but I don't think it's a major escalation or anything.
 
2013-05-03 11:44:43 PM  
What does CNN have to say?
 
2013-05-03 11:44:50 PM  
So no airspace violation, which I assume means missiles of some sort.

I find it hilarious this wasn't considered serious when CNN broke it, but now that MSNBC is reporting it, it seems legit.
 
2013-05-03 11:44:51 PM  
...and here we go.
 
2013-05-03 11:45:05 PM  
I call the next headline: Carnage Assad-a
 
2013-05-03 11:45:06 PM  
api.ning.com
 
2013-05-03 11:45:20 PM  
The map makes it look like Israel is the colon to Syria's stomach.
 
2013-05-03 11:45:48 PM  
www.supplementinnercircle.com
 
2013-05-03 11:45:49 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: I mean, yeah it's more newsworthy than "mugshots of hot chicks"


Hold on there, I'm thinking about that...
 
2013-05-03 11:46:10 PM  

Lsherm: So no airspace violation, which I assume means missiles of some sort.

I find it hilarious this wasn't considered serious when CNN broke it, but now that MSNBC is reporting it, it seems legit.


Unless it's a celebrity couple breaking up CNN isn't a source I would use.
 
2013-05-03 11:46:19 PM  
Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.
 
2013-05-03 11:46:36 PM  
So, Jesus is coming back?
 
2013-05-03 11:46:37 PM  
OH F*UCK
 
2013-05-03 11:47:02 PM  
Farking Israel...
 
2013-05-03 11:47:27 PM  
It has begun...
 
2013-05-03 11:48:06 PM  

whatshisname: The map makes it look like Israel is the colon to Syria's stomach.



Really?

I was thinking lamprey.
 
2013-05-03 11:48:09 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-03 11:48:36 PM  

Wittenberg Dropout: I call the next headline: Carnage Assad-a


Nice.
 
2013-05-03 11:48:48 PM  
www.charlock.org
 
2013-05-03 11:48:52 PM  
So it begins, the great shiatstorm of our time.
 
2013-05-03 11:49:30 PM  

spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.


Who says we still give a damn about what Israel does? They have their own fish to fry, and their political leaders are all zionists.

Stupid is, as stupid dies.
 
2013-05-03 11:49:41 PM  
Let me drag these old vintages out of the cellar:

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i140.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-03 11:49:46 PM  
I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Israel would attack one of its neighbors!

What is this world coming to?
 
2013-05-03 11:50:10 PM  
assets.sbnation.com
 
2013-05-03 11:50:14 PM  
i294.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-03 11:50:34 PM  
Just remember, folks: When were balls deep and billions in debt in Syria, the Israelis had NOTHING to do with it.


/Just
//Remember
///Folks


Iran, anyone?
 
2013-05-03 11:50:36 PM  

Deathfrogg: spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.

Who says we still give a damn about what Israel does? They have their own fish to fry, and their political leaders are all zionists.

Stupid is, as stupid dies.


This was going to be done, I am just glad we(the US) aren't doing it.
 
2013-05-03 11:50:47 PM  
So it's the weekend in the middle east.
 
2013-05-03 11:51:39 PM  

Amos Quito: Just remember, folks: When were balls deep and billions in debt in Syria, the Israelis had NOTHING to do with it.


/Just
//Remember
///Folks


Iran, anyone?


Yeah... there's some serious Irany there
 
2013-05-03 11:51:55 PM  

SubBass49: Farking Israel...


Yes, everything is Israel's fault. Whatever help's you sleep at night, pal.
 
2013-05-03 11:52:07 PM  

NostroZ: FTA: We know that the Israeli position is they will strike at Syria if they see weapons being transferred from syria to hezbollah forces in lebanon."
According to CNN, these strikes appear not to have been targeted at chemical weapons.
And, importantly, Israeli planes, according to Syria, do not appear to have entered Syrian airspace.

So... sounds like the Israeli'shiat a transfer of weapons to terrorists in a volatile region, their backyard (possibly even in their own airspace).

Better for them to help out in that region than just giving out weapons to 'rebels'.


That's what they want you to believe.
 
2013-05-03 11:52:18 PM  
So...it has come to this.
 
2013-05-03 11:52:47 PM  
My knowledge of geopolitics is limited, but I do enjoy a good turkey wrap on Syrian bread.
I hope this doesn't affect their availability.
 
2013-05-03 11:52:57 PM  
FALSE FLAG!!!!11!
 
2013-05-03 11:53:08 PM  
Syria wont do shiat, nothing more will come of this. They aren't going to go to war with Israel while in the middle of a civil war, that would only ensure Assad's defeat.
 
2013-05-03 11:53:38 PM  
FTA: "This would be the second time this year Israel conducted airstrikes inside Syria"

Meh.
 
2013-05-03 11:53:49 PM  
As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.
 
2013-05-03 11:54:37 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Syria wont do shiat, nothing more will come of this. They aren't going to go to war with Israel while in the middle of a civil war, that would only ensure Assad's defeat.


The Arab League might have given the IDF approval to do this as it helps the rebels, or the rebels might come back in line because teh jooz.
 
2013-05-03 11:55:44 PM  
Hezbollah's aligned themselves with Assad's regime? That's gonna put Israel (and the U.S.) on the side of the rebels. But the whole region hates Israel, so...

shiat. shiat shiat shiat.

This ain't good.
 
2013-05-03 11:55:50 PM  

Cytokine Storm: What does CNN have to say?


Israeli missiles struck a Target in Secaucus.
 
2013-05-03 11:55:58 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: Deathfrogg: spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.

Who says we still give a damn about what Israel does? They have their own fish to fry, and their political leaders are all zionists.

Stupid is, as stupid dies.

This was going to be done, I am just glad we(the US) aren't doing it.


Ziamese twins - joined at the foreskin.
 
2013-05-03 11:55:58 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Syria wont do shiat, nothing more will come of this. They aren't going to go to war with a nuclear power Israel while in the middle of a civil war, that would only ensure Assad's defeat.


and folks wonder why Iran wants nukes
 
2013-05-03 11:56:24 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: FTA: "This would be the second time this year Israel conducted airstrikes inside Syria"

Meh.


Yeah that's what I was thinking.
 
2013-05-03 11:56:38 PM  
This is what happens when Jeff Hanneman dies - the Metalocalypse has began.
 
2013-05-03 11:56:48 PM  

DarKrow: As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.


Well... it might elicit a stern scowl from ol' Pooty-poot
 
2013-05-03 11:56:54 PM  
Well, great. At least we can all be happy neighbors for a few weeks while energy prices skyrocket and retirement funds evaporate. Yay.
 
2013-05-03 11:56:58 PM  
It's getting Syrious.
 
2013-05-03 11:57:03 PM  

DarKrow: As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.


Meh, its complicated - the gov't are repressive assholes, but they're protective of minorities who might well be 'cleansed' should the rebels win.

There's probably no good outcome here.
 
2013-05-03 11:57:29 PM  
Alls I know is if we don't do what Israel wants it means our administration is anti-semitic.
 
2013-05-03 11:59:00 PM  
I am hoping nothing will come of this.
 
2013-05-03 11:59:03 PM  
We'll meet again, don't know how, don't know when!
 
2013-05-03 11:59:04 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: FALSE FLAG!!!!11!


[beats y'all like a red-headed stepchild with the Mighty Paw of Bastet]

How sick I am of that stupid stupid phrase.
 
2013-05-03 11:59:27 PM  

Smackledorfer: Alls I know is if we don't do what Israel wants it means our administration is anti-semitic.


As are you for bringing it up.

And me, for acknowledging it.

D'oh!
 
2013-05-03 11:59:33 PM  

RealAmericanHero: SubBass49: Farking Israel...

Yes, everything is Israel's fault. Whatever help's you sleep at night, pal.


Well I certainly wouldn't be sleeping well if I lived in Syria, that's for sure...
 
2013-05-04 12:00:45 AM  

MonkBard Nil: This is what happens when Jeff Hanneman dies - the Metalocalypse has began.


Nah, it's because it's Metallica Day for the Giants - Dodgers game, with Metallica performing the anthem. (The UNITED STATES NATION ANTHEM, ya big dummy.)
 
2013-05-04 12:01:22 AM  
shiat just got real.
 
2013-05-04 12:01:23 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Hezbollah's aligned themselves with Assad's regime? That's gonna put Israel (and the U.S.) on the side of the rebels. But the whole region hates Israel, so...


Hezbollah has always been a puppet supported by Hezbollah. The US and Israel have been mostly learning to the rebels the whole time. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
 
2013-05-04 12:01:26 AM  
Seems like my initial thought of "Oh, no... it has begun." is echoed throughout the thread.
 
2013-05-04 12:01:40 AM  

SubBass49: RealAmericanHero: SubBass49: Farking Israel...

Yes, everything is Israel's fault. Whatever help's you sleep at night, pal.

Well I certainly wouldn't be sleeping well if I lived in Syria, that's for sure...


As if you were the last 2 years while your President was killing your people with impunity.
 
2013-05-04 12:01:47 AM  
omgomgmogmg have we lost our shiat yet?
 
2013-05-04 12:01:56 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: I am hoping nothing will come of this.


It won't. Syria is a pariah state and anybody can do anything to them and nobody will blink. Even Russia's given up on them.
 
2013-05-04 12:01:59 AM  

jshine: DarKrow: As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.

Meh, its complicated - the gov't are repressive assholes, but they're protective of minorities who might well be 'cleansed' should the rebels win.

There's probably no good outcome here.


And the rebels are hardly a single faction, so quite possibly more war to come even if they win. Plus the U.S. sucks balls at picking replacement leaders.

Ugh.
 
2013-05-04 12:02:31 AM  
Anyone have a scanner link?
 
2013-05-04 12:02:33 AM  

bugmn99: Cytokine Storm: What does CNN have to say?

Israeli missiles struck a Target in Secaucus.


I know everybody hates new jersey, but is that really necessary?
 
2013-05-04 12:02:34 AM  
This is all part of the "gentrification" of the Middle East and North Africa.

Shouldn't you be watching something on TV?
 
2013-05-04 12:02:35 AM  
Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.
 
2013-05-04 12:02:40 AM  
Well shiat.... I guess it's time to pull out the tinfoil hat and the bomb boots.
 
2013-05-04 12:03:11 AM  

Kittypie070: shower_in_my_socks: FALSE FLAG!!!!11!

[beats y'all like a red-headed stepchild with the Mighty Paw of Bastet]

How sick I am of that stupid stupid phrase.


What we need are a good few whiffle bat smacks for everyone who says it, serious or not
 
2013-05-04 12:03:13 AM  
Did John King report it?  Because that asshole will say anything.
 
2013-05-04 12:03:18 AM  
Israeli Launch Airstrikes into Syria

Newsbros, do you even noun?

Also, I'm sure this is a great move.  The one thing that the Syrian rebels wanted was to be the pro-Israeli wing of Syrian politics.
 
2013-05-04 12:04:08 AM  

kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.


Bullets are legal to sell.
 
2013-05-04 12:04:08 AM  

spiderpaz: SubBass49: RealAmericanHero: SubBass49: Farking Israel...

Yes, everything is Israel's fault. Whatever help's you sleep at night, pal.

Well I certainly wouldn't be sleeping well if I lived in Syria, that's for sure...

As if you were the last 2 years while your President was killing your people with impunity.


Bombing...because when it's coming from TWO sources, suddenly it's not scary any more...
 
2013-05-04 12:04:14 AM  

Theory Of Null: Boom Shakalaka. So it begins.


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BOOM Skakalakaaaaaaaaaaa!

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2013-05-04 12:04:18 AM  

Smackledorfer: Alls I know is if we don't do what Israel wants it means our administration is anti-semitic.


This just in -- there's a greater range of opinion WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL on what "Israel wants", than the range of opinion in the United States on what "Israel wants".

No, scratch that, it's only news to some people.
 
2013-05-04 12:04:22 AM  
Thank God Israel is doing these attacks, I'd hate for us to be responsible for the cost of another war.
 
2013-05-04 12:04:36 AM  
But how do we know Israel hit the bad guys, and not the other bad guys?
 
2013-05-04 12:05:02 AM  
So when will Israel order US troops into Syria?
 
2013-05-04 12:05:22 AM  
Fark is gonna be awesome once all the kids get drafted.
 
2013-05-04 12:06:19 AM  
This isn't a big deal.  shiat didn't just get real; shiat is still pre-real.  Calm down.
 
2013-05-04 12:06:25 AM  
Briefly: It is against fark posting rules to call out fark members not in the thread.
 
2013-05-04 12:06:41 AM  

globalwarmingpraiser: Gdalescrboz: Syria wont do shiat, nothing more will come of this. They aren't going to go to war with Israel while in the middle of a civil war, that would only ensure Assad's defeat.

The Arab League might have given the IDF approval to do this as it helps the rebels, or the rebels might come back in line because teh jooz.


Or perhaps everybody knows why the Israelis did what they did and would also just assume Hezbollah not get those weapons.  And Assad can't depend on anyone's help-not even Iran.  Sure, they talk a good game, but are they really going to risk nukes for him?  I wouldn't count on it...

Nah...this is not WWIII
 
2013-05-04 12:06:43 AM  

LawrencePerson: But how do we know Israel hit the bad guys, and not the other bad guys?



Because the bad guys are Sunni, whereas the other bad guys are shiate.

Don't cast aspersions unless you know your meme.
 
2013-05-04 12:07:29 AM  

Deathfrogg: LawrencePerson: But how do we know Israel hit the bad guys, and not the other bad guys?


Because the bad guys are Sunni, whereas the other bad guys are shiate.

Don't cast aspersions unless you know your meme.


lol @ the filters....
 
2013-05-04 12:07:57 AM  

RealAmericanHero: Hezbollah has always been a puppet supported by Hezbollah.


quizzical_dog.jpg

Assad has always been a puppet supported by Hezbollah?
 
2013-05-04 12:08:01 AM  

RealAmericanHero: Hezbollah has always been a puppet supported by Hezbollah. The US and Israel have been mostly learning to the rebels the whole time. I wouldn't worry about it too much.


Yeah, I'm drunk. I mean Hezbollah has always been supported by Syria.
 
2013-05-04 12:08:14 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Seems underwhelming to me.
I mean, yeah it's more newsworthy than "mugshots of hot chicks", but I don't think it's a major escalation or anything.


I'm with you but still say Deb' Lafave is better to look at.  Just sayin'.
 
2013-05-04 12:08:25 AM  

Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.


So is ammonia and bleach...
 
2013-05-04 12:08:33 AM  

SubBass49: Bombing...because when it's coming from TWO sources, suddenly it's not scary any more...


You see ... it's like the peaks and valleys of waves.  In the right frequencies, the explosions will cancel eachother.  This is what the US refers to as a "balanced approach" to diplomacy.  What did you think it meant?
 
2013-05-04 12:08:36 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: quizzical_dog.jpg

Assad has always been a puppet supported by Hezbollah?


See above comment.
 
2013-05-04 12:09:19 AM  
Well at least this thread happened on Friday night.  So there's that.
 
2013-05-04 12:09:54 AM  

at80eighty: omgomgmogmg have we lost our shiat yet?


This is clearly the end of the world.
 
2013-05-04 12:10:03 AM  

kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.


There are protocols to these things, you know

/we have to carefully rationalize murder into acceptable and unacceptable methods
//otherwise we'd just be murderous animals
 
2013-05-04 12:10:49 AM  

kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...


Not when mixed together.
 
2013-05-04 12:11:08 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: Fark is gonna be awesome once all the poor kids get drafted.


ftfy

The rich and amoral have always found ways to exempt themselves from civic duty requirements.  The middle class can take advantage, too.  They just have to mortgage their dreams to save their children's lives.  Of course, if you weren't born into any amount of money, you're pretty much f*cked.  AMERICA F*CK YEAH
 
2013-05-04 12:11:31 AM  

ParagonComplex: Seems like my initial thought of "Oh, no... it has begun." is echoed throughout the thread.


What has begun? The unstable dumbfarkery that's been brewing in that entire region since pretty much forever is coming to a head yet again? Pft wake me when that entire region goes more than a decade without fighting.
 
2013-05-04 12:12:02 AM  

Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.


What does it make when you mix them?

/Answer that and you're a terrorist
 
2013-05-04 12:13:08 AM  

spiderpaz: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.

What does it make when you mix them?

/Answer that and you're a terrorist


Sorry, Mr. FBI man, thats classified.
 
2013-05-04 12:13:23 AM  

imontheinternet: Popcorn Johnny: Fark is gonna be awesome once all the poor kids get drafted.

ftfy

The rich and amoral have always found ways to exempt themselves from civic duty requirements.  The middle class can take advantage, too.  They just have to mortgage their dreams to save their children's lives.  Of course, if you weren't born into any amount of money, you're pretty much f*cked.  AMERICA F*CK YEAH


Anyone not born into wealth anywhere is f*cked. Most people in the world are pretty f*cked. The f*cked people in America are still better off than most of the world. Everything is basically a bunch of bullshiat for everyone. We just pick on the one that seems most obvious to us. The fact you have a mattress and a pillow automatically puts you above most people. But keep on it!
 
2013-05-04 12:13:45 AM  

jshine: I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Israel would attack one of its neighbors!

What is this world coming to?


Calling them neighbors is being too generous.  If your 'neighbors' were constantly issuing death threats against you and funneled money and weapons to their cousins who were living on your land and who liked to shoot bottle rockets at your house randomly, you'd likely want to smack them around a bit every now and again as well.
 
2013-05-04 12:14:02 AM  
So if I got the story straight, the Israelis warned they would take out any transfer of weapons to terrorists, and their jets (without leaving Israeli airspace), turned a bunch of shady assholes into smears on the ground?  I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this.  Though I'm sure a bunch terrorist sock puppets will denounce it, anyway.
 
2013-05-04 12:14:05 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

There are protocols to these things, you know

/we have to carefully rationalize murder into acceptable and unacceptable methods
//otherwise we'd just be murderous animals


/killing
 
2013-05-04 12:14:34 AM  
This isn't the first time Israel has hit weapons heading into the Lebanon.  It won't be the last time either.  This shouldn't lead to anything major given the Syrian's are a little preoccupied killing each other to start offensive moves against Israel.  It sounds scary, but it is really a minor incident.
 
2013-05-04 12:14:42 AM  

Deathfrogg: spiderpaz: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.

What does it make when you mix them?

/Answer that and you're a terrorist

Sorry, Mr. FBI man, thats classified.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-04 12:15:12 AM  

Oldiron_79: shiat Israel just got real estate.


FTFY.
 
2013-05-04 12:15:51 AM  

Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.


Yeah I guess you're right, you can't buy premix... have to do it myself, as usual...
 
2013-05-04 12:16:15 AM  

kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...


I think the indiscriminate method in which they kill is why they are distinguished from other weapons...anyway, them's the rules..
 
2013-05-04 12:17:11 AM  
i1309.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-04 12:17:12 AM  
Would be hard to argue that a crazy dictator's chemical weapons being destroyed is a bad thing, especially if we had nothing (directly) to do with it.
 
2013-05-04 12:17:15 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: Fark is gonna be awesome once all the kids get drafted.


There will never be another draft.  Warfare isn't waged primarily through boots on the ground anymore.  It's air, missile, and drone strikes followed by much smaller numbers of troops to root out the insurgents and keep the conquered from remounting any kind of organized resistance.
 
2013-05-04 12:17:22 AM  

whatshisname: Zeppelininthesky: I am hoping nothing will come of this.

It won't. Syria is a pariah state and anybody can do anything to them and nobody will blink. Even Russia's given up on them.



That's not anti syritic, no.

/ only certain people are protected by the brainwashing
 
2013-05-04 12:17:48 AM  

Gdalescrboz: Syria wont do shiat, nothing more will come of this. They aren't going to go to war with Israel while in the middle of a civil war, that would only ensure Assad's defeat.


Unless of course they calculate that they can conduct a non-escalating limited Wag the Dog scenario to paint the rebels as Israeli backed puppets.  I doubt they could pull that off though, since Israel doesn't have a tendency to limit their response to limited responses.
 
2013-05-04 12:18:04 AM  

the_rhino: So it begins, the great shiatstorm of our time.


4.bp.blogspot.com

I read that in Kosh's voice.
 
2013-05-04 12:18:22 AM  

croesius: Thank God Israel is doing these attacks, I'd hate for us to be responsible for the cost of another war.



Hilarious!

I laughed all the way to the bank!
 
2013-05-04 12:19:07 AM  

RealAmericanHero: iAnyone not born into wealth anywhere is f*cked. Most people in the world are pretty f*cked. The f*cked people in America are still better off than most of the world. Everything is basically a bunch of bullshiat for everyone. We just pick on the one that seems most obvious to us. The fact you have a mattress and a pillow automatically puts you above most people. But keep on it!


The fact that the whole world is sh*tty isn't a defense to calling life sh*tty in any context.  Bonus:  Living in the 21st century means you probably have it better than your ancestors.  Living in the 21st century western world means that you have it better than 99% of everybody who has ever lived before you in all of history.  It's almost as though everything sucks and God doesn't love you or give a sh*t.  Imagine what the Sunday School teachers would say.
 
2013-05-04 12:19:07 AM  
The Jews, they are a violent people.
 
2013-05-04 12:19:45 AM  
NostroZ

So... sounds like the Israeli'shiat a transfer of weapons to terrorists in a volatile region, their backyard (possibly even in their own airspace).

1.bp.blogspot.com

That filter has been broken for at least a decade.
 
2013-05-04 12:20:31 AM  

imontheinternet: It's almost as though everything sucks and God doesn't love you or give a sh*t.


We find agreement.
 
2013-05-04 12:22:43 AM  
beldar.blogs.com
 
2013-05-04 12:22:54 AM  
theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com

Israel has the right to offend itself!
 
2013-05-04 12:22:57 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: jshine: I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Israel would attack one of its neighbors!

What is this world coming to?

Calling them neighbors is being too generous.  If your 'neighbors' were constantly issuing death threats against you and funneled money and weapons to their cousins who were living on your land and who liked to shoot bottle rockets at your house randomly, you'd likely want to smack them around a bit every now and again as well.


Last I checked, Israel and Syria share a border, hence 'neighbors'.
 
2013-05-04 12:25:15 AM  

globalwarmingpraiser: spiderpaz

calling out farkers not in thread.


Yeah...bad form. Shabbos started several hours ago in NY (where I believe my favorite Zionist is hanging these days), so we won't see him for another 18 hours or so.

In any case, TFA says the Israeli jets didn't enter Syrian airspace, so I imagine they waited until the convoy entered Lebanon before hitting the trucks with missiles and/or smart bombs. Shiat, maybe they launched from within Israeli airspace before hooking a hard 180 without entering the airspace of ANY other country. I also bet they had tacit Arab League approval. Those guys really don't want chemical weapons spilling out into the souqs.

/political Zionist
//two state supporter
 
2013-05-04 12:25:43 AM  

BravadoGT: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

I think the indiscriminate method in which they kill is why they are distinguished from other weapons...anyway, them's the rules..


You really saying that bullets can't be indiscriminate?
 
2013-05-04 12:26:29 AM  
It wasn't clear whether the Israelis alerted the U.S. before the attack. White House officials referred all questions to the Israelis.

Because when I have questions on a nation's foreign policies, I naturally ask their Dom sub no one can figure out who's what in this relationship ally instead of, you know, asking the nation themselves.

/What, are we de facto Israel now?
 
2013-05-04 12:26:29 AM  

studebaker hoch: NostroZ

So... sounds like the Israeli'shiat a transfer of weapons to terrorists in a volatile region, their backyard (possibly even in their own airspace).

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x259]

That filter has been broken for at least a decade.


I think we can safely assume that at this point it's no longer "broken"

/undocumented feature
 
2013-05-04 12:26:56 AM  

RealAmericanHero: imontheinternet: It's almost as though everything sucks and God doesn't love you or give a sh*t.

We find agreement.


::knucks::

The universe is neutral by nature.  Accept that horrid truth and the big questions start making sense.  I'd rather be wise and moody than dumb and happy.
 
2013-05-04 12:28:30 AM  
Remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy.

http://bible.cc/exodus/20-8.htm

Looks like someone's doing work on a Saturday over there.
 
2013-05-04 12:28:54 AM  
I don't see enough detail here to draw many conclusions, so far.
 
2013-05-04 12:28:55 AM  
Keizer_Ghidorah:

BOOM Skakalakaaaaaaaaaaa!

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 720x390]


i201.photobucket.com
When the walls fell.
 
2013-05-04 12:28:57 AM  

imontheinternet: RealAmericanHero: imontheinternet: It's almost as though everything sucks and God doesn't love you or give a sh*t.

We find agreement.

::knucks::

The universe is neutral by nature.  Accept that horrid truth and the big questions start making sense.  I'd rather be wise and moody than dumb and happy.


Personally, I went straight to cynical and b*tchy

/I think that may have been genetic, though
 
2013-05-04 12:29:04 AM  
Why is everyone so excited?  Its not like we are going to go full on WW2 employment.  Those farkers will kill each other off with old soviet and chinese shiat.
No taste for the finer things.
 
2013-05-04 12:29:06 AM  

jshine: TuteTibiImperes: jshine: I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Israel would attack one of its neighbors!

What is this world coming to?

Calling them neighbors is being too generous.  If your 'neighbors' were constantly issuing death threats against you and funneled money and weapons to their cousins who were living on your land and who liked to shoot bottle rockets at your house randomly, you'd likely want to smack them around a bit every now and again as well.

Last I checked, Israel and Syria share a border, hence 'neighbors'.


I don't dispute that.  Maybe I just read the wrong spin in the original comment.  It came across to me as 'oh, Israel at it again causing trouble, why won't they stop stirring the pot with those peaceful Arabs next door'.  Sorry about that.
 
2013-05-04 12:29:10 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-04 12:29:47 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy.

http://bible.cc/exodus/20-8.htm

Looks like someone's doing work on a Saturday over there.


*Holey
Common mistake.
 
2013-05-04 12:30:17 AM  
Good. Let Israel deal with them.
 
2013-05-04 12:31:14 AM  

Stone Meadow: globalwarmingpraiser: spiderpaz

calling out farkers not in thread.

Yeah...bad form. Shabbos started several hours ago in NY (where I believe my favorite Zionist is hanging these days), so we won't see him for another 18 hours or so.

In any case, TFA says the Israeli jets didn't enter Syrian airspace, so I imagine they waited until the convoy entered Lebanon before hitting the trucks with missiles and/or smart bombs. Shiat, maybe they launched from within Israeli airspace before hooking a hard 180 without entering the airspace of ANY other country. I also bet they had tacit Arab League approval. Those guys really don't want chemical weapons spilling out into the souqs.

/political Zionist
//two state supporter


I hope he chokes on a pork chop
 
2013-05-04 12:31:55 AM  
laroucheplanet.info
 
2013-05-04 12:31:59 AM  

Amos Quito: Oldiron_79: shiat Israel just got real estate.

FTFY.


[imokwiththis.jpeg]
 
2013-05-04 12:32:32 AM  

Stone Meadow: globalwarmingpraiser: spiderpaz

calling out farkers not in thread.

Yeah...bad form. Shabbos started several hours ago in NY (where I believe my favorite Zionist is hanging these days), so we won't see him for another 18 hours or so.

In any case, TFA says the Israeli jets didn't enter Syrian airspace, so I imagine they waited until the convoy entered Lebanon before hitting the trucks with missiles and/or smart bombs. Shiat, maybe they launched from within Israeli airspace before hooking a hard 180 without entering the airspace of ANY other country. I also bet they had tacit Arab League approval. Those guys really don't want chemical weapons spilling out into the souqs.

/political Zionist
//two state supporter



Looking at the history of the former, I really don't see where these two positions could possibly be compatible.

As soon as Palestine is declared a "state" Israel will attack.


/One State solution becomes Final Solution
 
2013-05-04 12:32:44 AM  
Is this part of Israel's plan to start building Walmarts in Syria? Blow up all the Targets first?
 
2013-05-04 12:32:58 AM  

thisisarepeat: Why is everyone so excited?  Its not like we are going to go full on WW2 employment.  Those farkers will kill each other off with old soviet and chinese shiat.
No taste for the finer things.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-04 12:34:03 AM  
So I assume that this is just mid-level officers selling tech to Hezbollah under the table? At worst it's Israel bombing trucks carrying Coke in order to provoke a larger international action?

Because if Assad were truly using chemical weapons and selling them outright to terrorist states, the attacks wouldn't be so gentle.
 
2013-05-04 12:34:24 AM  

kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.


Aww, look. It's the token thread Nihilist.

That makes the holocaust okay, right, because the Germans were just killing people?
 
2013-05-04 12:37:50 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: jshine: TuteTibiImperes: jshine: I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Israel would attack one of its neighbors!

What is this world coming to?

Calling them neighbors is being too generous.  If your 'neighbors' were constantly issuing death threats against you and funneled money and weapons to their cousins who were living on your land and who liked to shoot bottle rockets at your house randomly, you'd likely want to smack them around a bit every now and again as well.

Last I checked, Israel and Syria share a border, hence 'neighbors'.

I don't dispute that.  Maybe I just read the wrong spin in the original comment.  It came across to me as 'oh, Israel at it again causing trouble, why won't they stop stirring the pot with those peaceful Arabs next door'.  Sorry about that.


As I see it, they're the Montagues and Capulets:

Two households, both alike in dignity, In fair Verona, where we lay our scene, From ancient grudge break to new mutiny, Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean. From forth the fatal loins of these two foes A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life; Whose misadventured piteous overthrows Do with their death bury their parents' strife. The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love, And the continuance of their parents' rage, Which, but their children's end, nought could remove...

...and much like the play, there's no happy ending.
 
2013-05-04 12:39:04 AM  

MrEricSir: Would be hard to argue that a crazy dictator's chemical weapons being destroyed is a bad thing, especially if we had nothing (directly) to do with it.


It'd be even better if Israel used their own chemical weapons to take out Syria's chemical weapons...

...yo dawg
 
2013-05-04 12:39:15 AM  

DarKrow: As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.


if no one is on his side
he must be a genius and /or godzilla
 
2013-05-04 12:39:34 AM  
Yay!!!! Someone to sell tanks too.

/Just need the U.S. government to cut a check to Israel first.
//Fight your own shiat.
 
2013-05-04 12:41:05 AM  
Thank goodness we have a community organizer as our President! I'm sure he'll wait the appropriate amount of time, so others can take the flack and then make a uninspiring speech to show his lack of leadership.
 
2013-05-04 12:42:39 AM  

EnderX: Thank goodness we have a community organizer as our President! I'm sure he'll wait the appropriate amount of time, so others can take the flack and then make a uninspiring speech to show his lack of leadership.


Bin Laden looks up from Hell and wonders what drugs you're on.
 
2013-05-04 12:42:46 AM  

EnderX: Thank goodness we have a community organizer as our President! I'm sure he'll wait the appropriate amount of time, so others can take the flack and then make a uninspiring speech to show his lack of leadership.


If only we still had an actor for president, some stage-managed theatrics would surely save the day!
 
2013-05-04 12:43:56 AM  

Lsherm: So no airspace violation, which I assume means missiles of some sort.

I find it hilarious this wasn't considered serious when CNN broke it, but now that MSNBC is reporting it, it seems legit.


If it was near the border they might just have lobbed bombs in.  A fighter-bomber can fling a bomb *MANY* miles--you had better put a guidance unit on it if you want to hit your target, though.

spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.


Think Turkey is going to hit weapons headed for Hezbollah????
 
2013-05-04 12:44:11 AM  

Number1Fan: Is this part of Israel's plan to start building Walmarts in Syria? Blow up all the Targets first?


Okay. You slipped that one in under the radar and made me laugh whilst maintaining a sarcastic smirk on my face.

For that, you get Total Fark'ed for a month.

Use this power wisely.
 
2013-05-04 12:45:15 AM  
Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-04 12:47:59 AM  
Alphax

Bin Laden looks up from Hell and wonders what drugs you're on. is still laughing so hard at America he can't say anything.

/just sayin'
 
2013-05-04 12:48:25 AM  
www.steveandmarta.com
 
2013-05-04 12:49:15 AM  
CNN reporting there is a dark-skinned male suspect in custody!

i28.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-04 12:50:18 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: jshine: I'm shocked - SHOCKED - that Israel would attack one of its neighbors!

What is this world coming to?

Calling them neighbors is being too generous.  If your 'neighbors' were constantly issuing death threats against you and funneled money and weapons to their cousins who were living on your land and who liked to shoot bottle rockets at your house randomly, you'd likely want to smack them around a bit every now and again as well.


Wait, who is on someone else's land? You saying Syria is on Israel's land?

OgreMagi: So if I got the story straight, the Israelis warned they would take out any transfer of weapons to terrorists, and their jets (without leaving Israeli airspace), turned a bunch of shady assholes into smears on the ground?  I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this.  Though I'm sure a bunch terrorist sock puppets will denounce it, anyway.


You're either with us or against us, right? and certain people are assholes who deserve to be smears on the ground. It's just a question of which people are the assholes. Oh, and agree with whoever is doing the killing or we call you a terrorist. Right.
 
2013-05-04 12:50:20 AM  

JakeStone: Keizer_Ghidorah:

BOOM Skakalakaaaaaaaaaaa!

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 720x390]

[i201.photobucket.com image 190x198]
When the walls fell.


I will hear no talk of Miss Piggy's walls falling.
 
2013-05-04 12:50:27 AM  

Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.


I don't think he understands the concept of "aiming at soldiers" with bullets vs. "killing completely indescriminately" by chemical weapons.  We want to kill your soldiers, not your soldiers kids.  That's why we won't use them.

War Tard had a nice post a few months back on Assad, but I can't be bothered to search for it.
 
2013-05-04 12:53:43 AM  

findthefish: So...it has come to this.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-05-04 12:54:09 AM  

Lsherm: So no airspace violation, which I assume means missiles of some sort.

I find it hilarious this wasn't considered serious when CNN broke it, but now that MSNBC is reporting it, it seems legit.


Moar like "Not believin' CNN until there's a second source".

Seems prudent, not necessarily just because its MSNBC, but just because it's a second source.
 
2013-05-04 12:54:09 AM  
www.bobcesca.com
 
2013-05-04 12:56:52 AM  

WillyChase: Kittypie070: shower_in_my_socks: FALSE FLAG!!!!11!

[beats y'all like a red-headed stepchild with the Mighty Paw of Bastet]

How sick I am of that stupid stupid phrase.

What we need are a good few whiffle bat smacks for everyone who says it, serious or not


You are all making it very hard to avoid saying it.

Seriously. Goddamnit.

FALSE FLAG.FALSE FLAG. FALSE FLAG. FALSE FLAG.

See what you've done?
 
2013-05-04 12:57:00 AM  

Infobahn: So, Jesus is coming back?


I say we go ahead and get that shiat over with, so sane people can get on with the business of making the world the way it should be.
 
2013-05-04 12:57:11 AM  
HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!
 
2013-05-04 12:58:19 AM  
They can just keep going until Syria no longer exists for all I care.
 
2013-05-04 12:59:28 AM  

Amos Quito: Stone Meadow: /political Zionist
//two state supporter


Looking at the history of the former, I really don't see where these two positions could possibly be compatible.

Quite the contrary. There are plenty of Jews both inside and outside Israel who support both the existence of the modern State of Israel as well as the two state solution. It's a minority position, of course, but it's not like it's some form of cognitive dissonance.

As soon as Palestine is declared a "state" Israel will attack.

Nonsense. Palestine has been referring to itself as "Palestine" for some months now. The "Palestine Territories" moniker disappeared as soon as the UN gave them observer status. Israel's government has made a few grumbling noises, but they won't attack for anything like that reason.
 
2013-05-04 01:00:44 AM  
Given their geographic proximity to Syria, I'm surprised they stayed out of it for as long as they did.
 
2013-05-04 01:00:45 AM  

BafflerMeal: [www.steveandmarta.com image 250x193]


Wow you made me feel old.

/You know played Shepherd from Firefly right?
/"Get lost."
 
2013-05-04 01:02:24 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: They can just keep going until Syria no longer exists for all I care.



Or until Israel becomes Wasrael.
 
2013-05-04 01:02:38 AM  

Gdalescrboz: Syria wont do shiat, nothing more will come of this. They aren't going to go to war with Israel while in the middle of a civil war, that would only ensure Assad's defeat.


Correct.

/Same with Iran and Russia/
//word//
 
2013-05-04 01:05:10 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: FTA: "This would be the second time this year Israel conducted airstrikes inside Syria"

Meh.


This. Why the fark are some of you freaking out and wailing the world's doom?

(oh-noes.gif)
 
2013-05-04 01:06:24 AM  

Stone Meadow: Amos Quito: Stone Meadow: /political Zionist
//two state supporter

Looking at the history of the former, I really don't see where these two positions could possibly be compatible.

Quite the contrary. There are plenty of Jews both inside and outside Israel who support both the existence of the modern State of Israel as well as the two state solution. It's a minority position, of course, but it's not like it's some form of cognitive dissonance.



"Jews" and "Zionists".

These terms are not synonymous, and the latter is a pox on the former.
 
2013-05-04 01:06:48 AM  

Amish Tech Support: BafflerMeal: [www.steveandmarta.com image 250x193]

Wow you made me feel old.

/You know played Shepherd from Firefly right?
/"Get lost."



GEHENNA: MORE THAN A PLACE, A WAY OF LIFE
 
2013-05-04 01:07:15 AM  

Stone Meadow: Nonsense. Palestine has been referring to itself as "Palestine" for some months now. The "Palestine Territories" moniker disappeared as soon as the UN gave them observer status. Israel's government has made a few grumbling noises, but they won't attack for anything like that reason.


It's interesting that the UN recognizes Palestine, but not Taiwan.
 
2013-05-04 01:07:53 AM  

findthefish: So...it has come to this.


Did we run out of paper towels again?
 
2013-05-04 01:09:44 AM  
Israel is just pissed off at Google and needed to punch someone.
 
2013-05-04 01:10:10 AM  

Oldiron_79: shiat just got ISRAEL.


FTFY
 
2013-05-04 01:10:31 AM  

srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!


Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is
 
2013-05-04 01:14:55 AM  
This can't be a real thing, it's not at the top of the Drudge Report.  Surely Isreal launching an airstrike against chemical weapons being transferred from Syria to Hezbollah is more important than Obama talking about guns being purchased in the US and smuggled into Mexico.
 
2013-05-04 01:17:34 AM  

sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]


How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.
 
2013-05-04 01:17:46 AM  

Amos Quito: Stone Meadow: There are plenty of Jews both inside and outside Israel who support both the existence of the modern State of Israel as well as the two state solution. It's a minority position, of course, but it's not like it's some form of cognitive dissonance.

"Jews" and "Zionists".

These terms are not synonymous, and the latter is a pox on the former.


You're conflating the more aggressive forms of religious Zionism with political Zionism's practical recognition that Israel has existed for 65 years and isn't going to go away. As a country Israel has the right to a safe and secure existence, same as any other country. Calling them names and continuing to foment violence against them will only prolong the hostilities. Palestine knows what they need to do to make peace with Israel, and I think certain factions are scared shiatless that Assad's fall will mark the end of their support.
 
Ehh
2013-05-04 01:17:56 AM  

studebaker hoch: Israel is just pissed off at Google and needed to punch someone.


I snerked. Thank you.
 
2013-05-04 01:18:18 AM  
There's a civil war going on in Syria.
Nobody should be surprised the Israelis are sticking their dicks into it.

I'm alright with the US not committing any more to it than we already have.
 
2013-05-04 01:22:28 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is


I prefer this Holy War song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-3Z1SSJy0
 
2013-05-04 01:24:42 AM  

WillyChase: Kittypie070: shower_in_my_socks: FALSE FLAG!!!!11!

[beats y'all like a red-headed stepchild with the Mighty Paw of Bastet]

How sick I am of that stupid stupid phrase.

What we need are a good few whiffle bat smacks for everyone who says it, serious or not



Why do you hate Freedom of Speech?
 
2013-05-04 01:25:11 AM  

Testiclaw: [i.imgur.com image 403x673]


Awesome, a variant!
 
2013-05-04 01:26:01 AM  
How soon before Israel hits us up for cash, asks for the release of Johnathan Jay Pollard, and threatens to call Obama an anti-Semite if he doesn't cough up a few billion?
 
2013-05-04 01:27:02 AM  
Its to bad the Jews and  the muslims over there don't love their children.
 
2013-05-04 01:27:06 AM  

BafflerMeal: GEHENNA: MORE THAN A PLACE, A WAY OF LIFE



Are you selling time shares?
 
2013-05-04 01:27:29 AM  
tallguywithglasseson:e sticking their dicks into it.

I'm alright with the US not committing any more to it than we already have.


Well said, we can call it Operation Not Our farking Problem, Bibi
 
2013-05-04 01:28:23 AM  

ShawnDoc: MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is

I prefer this Holy War song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-3Z1SSJy0


Suffice to say "holy war" is an oxy-moron

/typically espoused by absolute-morons
 
2013-05-04 01:28:56 AM  

nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]

How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.


Or just bored and looking for a laugh. I always find it amusing when people who take their superstitions seriously get all butthurt.
 
2013-05-04 01:32:38 AM  

Lsherm: So no airspace violation, which I assume means missiles of some sort.

I find it hilarious this wasn't considered serious when CNN broke it, but now that MSNBC is reporting it, it seems legit.


The CNN story was green for 20 minutes and had three comments before being pulled.
 
2013-05-04 01:35:23 AM  
 
2013-05-04 01:36:01 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Hezbollah's aligned themselves with Assad's regime? That's gonna put Israel (and the U.S.) on the side of the rebels. But the whole region hates Israel, so...

shiat. shiat shiat shiat.

This ain't good.


and the sky is blue. what you said has been happening since 1947.
 
2013-05-04 01:36:36 AM  

Revek: Its to bad the Jews and  the muslims over there don't love their children.


Pedo.
 
2013-05-04 01:37:57 AM  

hardinparamedic: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Aww, look. It's the token thread Nihilist.

That makes the holocaust okay, right, because the Germans were just killing people?


I'm just trying to figure out the acceptable means of killing people which is making me more confused.
So bullets are ok.
Chemical weapons are not.
Little boy and fat man? Acceptable or not? Must have been acceptable because the World Police didn't bomb us afterward.

/that moment when you realize you must now bomb yourself
//awkward
 
2013-05-04 01:38:04 AM  

borg: Lsherm: So no airspace violation, which I assume means missiles of some sort.

I find it hilarious this wasn't considered serious when CNN broke it, but now that MSNBC is reporting it, it seems legit.

The CNN story was green for 20 minutes and had three comments before being pulled.


Even funnier is that an Israeli news outlet is using CNN and a tweet by Lindsey Graham as their sources for this story:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-reportedly-suspects-israeli-planes-s tr uck-syria/
 
2013-05-04 01:40:09 AM  
Eh, Syria's not in any position to strike at Israel, what with their whole revolution thing happening.

The biggest danger coming out of this might be increased threats from Iran against Israel, but again, I don't know that they're stupid enough to attack a country that they know will bring the American hammer down on them. The president aside, most of the actual rulers of Iran understand that they don't want an actual war with the US, because they'll get smacked down hard.
 
2013-05-04 01:40:28 AM  
I meant to say "a tweet that quoted Sen. Lindsey Graham". But seriously, they are getting their own news secondhand? wtf?
 
2013-05-04 01:40:30 AM  

WeenerGord: WillyChase: Kittypie070: shower_in_my_socks: FALSE FLAG!!!!11!

[beats y'all like a red-headed stepchild with the Mighty Paw of Bastet]

How sick I am of that stupid stupid phrase.

What we need are a good few whiffle bat smacks for everyone who says it, serious or not


Why do you hate Freedom of Speech?


I don't hate Freedom of Speech.

I hate stupid bullsh*t phrases ganked from that fear-peddler Alex Jones and made to strut the streets as if they were legitimate concepts deserving of respect.
 
2013-05-04 01:42:27 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: Fark is gonna be awesome once all the kids get drafted.


Yeah, those farking goddamned Republicans are always instituting the draft which affects The Poors more than anybody else, and all the rich bastards get deferments!

Just look at history: Roosevelt, Johnson...

Oh, wait.....
 
2013-05-04 01:42:29 AM  
KEEP MAKIN FRIENDS AMERICA
 
2013-05-04 01:42:59 AM  

Kittypie070: Testiclaw: [i.imgur.com image 403x673]

Awesome, a variant!


Quick and dirty for the special occasion!
 
2013-05-04 01:46:36 AM  
Help  me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt.  The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers.  That doesn't sit right with me.  Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?
 
2013-05-04 01:47:39 AM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.

I don't think he understands the concept of "aiming at soldiers" with bullets vs. "killing completely indescriminately" by chemical weapons.  We want to kill your soldiers, not your soldiers kids.  That's why we won't use them.

War Tard had a nice post a few months back on Assad, but I can't be bothered to search for it.


Rrrriiight, because bullets never killed anyone other than soldiers or their intended target.
Got it. Killing is good as long as the one you're trying to kill gets killed. If others or innocents get killed while trying to kill the intended target, then that's bad and we bomb you.

/kill
 
2013-05-04 01:49:21 AM  

srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!


You know what would be cool? Iran launches a nuke missile towards Israel and it goes off course and blows up Mecca.

Embarrassing....
 
2013-05-04 01:50:07 AM  
Just getting this out of the way:

God Hates us All
 
2013-05-04 01:52:19 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is


Damn! 1987 album? HOW the hell did I miss that? MANY thanks.
 
2013-05-04 01:52:28 AM  

tuna fingers: Help  me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt.  The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers.  That doesn't sit right with me.  Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?


Pretty simple. Assad is a secular strongman. He and his father have used extremely violent tactics to suppress opposition.

The opposition is radical Muslim fanatics. They have been put down by Assad many times. Thomas Friedman describes Assad's philosophy as 'Hama rules', a reference to the destruction of the Islamist hotbed town of Hama when it tried to rise up against Assad's father.

So you support the strongman or you support terrorists. In a way it's Iraq all over again. If the strongman goes, the radical extremists take over. If the strongman stays, human rights violations will continue.

There's no good reason to get involved.
 
2013-05-04 01:53:11 AM  

SithLord: Just getting this out of the way:

God Hates us All


However, a certain spider loved the taste of a certain guitarist's leg.

Spread the love
 
2013-05-04 01:53:36 AM  

Kittypie070: WeenerGord: WillyChase: Kittypie070: shower_in_my_socks: FALSE FLAG!!!!11!

[beats y'all like a red-headed stepchild with the Mighty Paw of Bastet]

How sick I am of that stupid stupid phrase.

What we need are a good few whiffle bat smacks for everyone who says it, serious or not


Why do you hate Freedom of Speech?

I don't hate Freedom of Speech.

I hate stupid bullsh*t phrases ganked from that fear-peddler Alex Jones and made to strut the streets as if they were legitimate concepts deserving of respect.


To be fair the phrase has been around a lot longer than Alex Jones. And it's not exactly unprecedented for a nation to gin up a reason for a war (not that I'm in any way implying that's the case in this instance).
 
2013-05-04 01:54:34 AM  
Israel is like a fishing net....trying desperately to catch a school of fish, the school of fish they designate as politically threatening Islamic believers. They will learn to catch different fish, and possibly move onto a different school of fish in the far future.
 
2013-05-04 01:56:09 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is

Damn! 1987 album? HOW the hell did I miss that? MANY thanks.


Yeah, I know. Butcher just went completely under the radar here

/popular in England, I guess
//you're very welcome, and thank you for appreciating it
 
2013-05-04 01:58:10 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Appropriate? PLAY IT LOUD!

Or perhaps this? PLAY IT EVEN LOUDER!


Actually, this is much better.
 
2013-05-04 01:59:27 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is

Damn! 1987 album? HOW the hell did I miss that? MANY thanks.

Yeah, I know. Butcher just went completely under the radar here

/popular in England, I guess
//you're very welcome, and thank you for appreciating it


Bookmarked. Gonna have to check out his links.
 
2013-05-04 02:02:28 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is

Damn! 1987 album? HOW the hell did I miss that? MANY thanks.

Yeah, I know. Butcher just went completely under the radar here

/popular in England, I guess
//you're very welcome, and thank you for appreciating it

Bookmarked. Gonna have to check out his links.


Try If Wishes Were Horses

/personal favorite
 
2013-05-04 02:02:40 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: tuna fingers: Help  me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt.  The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers.  That doesn't sit right with me.  Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?

Pretty simple. Assad is a secular strongman. He and his father have used extremely violent tactics to suppress opposition.

The opposition is radical Muslim fanatics. They have been put down by Assad many times. Thomas Friedman describes Assad's philosophy as 'Hama rules', a reference to the destruction of the Islamist hotbed town of Hama when it tried to rise up against Assad's father.

So you support the strongman or you support terrorists. In a way it's Iraq all over again. If the strongman goes, the radical extremists take over. If the strongman stays, human rights violations will continue.

There's no good reason to get involved.


I'm gonna guess we are already involved.  I'll assume that many international corporations (including American ones) are stripping the countryside of their resources.  They pay off the fat and happy elite, while the common folk can't afford food.  Amirite?
 
2013-05-04 02:04:47 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is

Damn! 1987 album? HOW the hell did I miss that? MANY thanks.

Yeah, I know. Butcher just went completely under the radar here

/popular in England, I guess
//you're very welcome, and thank you for appreciating it

Bookmarked. Gonna have to check out his links.

Try If Wishes Were Horses

/personal favorite


Did I just miss a Jazz Butcher Conspiracy thread?
Did I?
I see Butcher.  I see 1987.  It must be.  Haven't found the actual link yet.
 
2013-05-04 02:06:58 AM  
And nope.
Not Jazz Butcher Conspiracy....
 
2013-05-04 02:09:10 AM  

Kittypie070: I hate stupid bullsh*t phrases ganked from that fear-peddler Alex Jones and made to strut the streets as if they were legitimate concepts deserving of respect.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-04 02:17:55 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: Seems underwhelming to me.
I mean, yeah it's more newsworthy than "mugshots of hot chicks"


Like hell it is.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mugshots+of+hot+chicks
 
2013-05-04 02:26:36 AM  

ShawnDoc: MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is

I prefer this Holy War song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-3Z1SSJy0



Even better.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYlUe-SDqA0
 
2013-05-04 02:28:20 AM  

nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]

How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.


What do you expect from a left wing farktard?
 
2013-05-04 02:32:28 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]

How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.

What do you expect from a left wing farktard?



Well, you can't blame the Israeli soldiers for their own actions. They were just following orders.
 
2013-05-04 02:35:33 AM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

THIS IS THE BEGINNING.
 
2013-05-04 02:58:17 AM  
Good for Israel! And if it weren't for protection of borders within the U.S., the wussified, spoiled libs would have no freedom of self expression here either. There is no law without protection of borders. Your opinion doesn't count if you make it while eating a bullet.
 
2013-05-04 03:04:00 AM  

kgloverfl: White_Scarf_Syndrome: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.

I don't think he understands the concept of "aiming at soldiers" with bullets vs. "killing completely indescriminately" by chemical weapons.  We want to kill your soldiers, not your soldiers kids.  That's why we won't use them.

War Tard had a nice post a few months back on Assad, but I can't be bothered to search for it.

Rrrriiight, because bullets never killed anyone other than soldiers or their intended target.
Got it. Killing is good as long as the one you're trying to kill gets killed. If others or innocents get killed while trying to kill the intended target, then that's bad and we bomb you.

/kill



You're missing the point.  Collateral damage happens with bullets, yes.  Of course.  No one said it didn't.  The main purpose is to take out who is shooting at you.

The point is that chemical weapons take collateral damage on purpose.  They are truly weapons of mass destruction and there is a reason they've been outlawed.  Does someone need to post the photos of the dead Kurdish babies?

Killing is bad, by the way.  I'm just explaining the difference between conventional vs. chemical weapons.  I do have somewhat of a scorched earth policy, but I don't like seing dead innocent families.  I'm not sure where you got the "killing is good" bit from.

murderdeathkill! oh no!!!
 
2013-05-04 03:15:37 AM  

kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.


Pretty much, yeah.

Bullets kill what you point the gun at.
Poison gas kills every farking thing in the general area - friend, foe, and neutral and keeps on doing so for hours or even days.

Not to mention that gas is one of the most farking hideous ways to die known to man.   Mustard gas can take up to 3 (excruciatingly painful) weeks to kill you.  There's a reason every single country involved in WWI signed on to a ban on the use of chemical weapons - because that shiat is so farking scary that nobody wanted it used against them.

If you've got a strong stomach, Google for "effects of mustard gas".  And then keep in mind that modern chemical weapons make mustard gas (which is one of the oldest chemical warfare agents) look tame by comparison.
 
2013-05-04 03:17:22 AM  

Stone Meadow: globalwarmingpraiser: spiderpaz

calling out farkers not in thread.

Yeah...bad form. Shabbos started several hours ago in NY (where I believe my favorite Zionist is hanging these days), so we won't see him for another 18 hours or so.


It'll be hilarious watching him try to catch up with the 250+ comments. He'll probably also give us a liberal dose of "told you so," because he has super secret Hebrew Heroes friends that told him all about this a few days ago.

It's weird, he didn't use to be an ass on anything other than nitpicking Israel threads, but now he's poking into gun threads, porn threads, potato threads, et. al.

Was he like that even before he went Full Hetard?
 
2013-05-04 03:18:30 AM  

spiderpaz: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.

What does it make when you mix them?

/Answer that and you're a terrorist


Chloramine, dichloramine, and hydrazine. Basic redox chemistry.

/Goddamned k3wls.
 
2013-05-04 03:31:21 AM  
 
2013-05-04 03:38:18 AM  

tuna fingers: AverageAmericanGuy: tuna fingers: Help  me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt.  The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers.  That doesn't sit right with me.  Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?

Pretty simple. Assad is a secular strongman. He and his father have used extremely violent tactics to suppress opposition.

The opposition is radical Muslim fanatics. They have been put down by Assad many times. Thomas Friedman describes Assad's philosophy as 'Hama rules', a reference to the destruction of the Islamist hotbed town of Hama when it tried to rise up against Assad's father.

So you support the strongman or you support terrorists. In a way it's Iraq all over again. If the strongman goes, the radical extremists take over. If the strongman stays, human rights violations will continue.

There's no good reason to get involved.

I'm gonna guess we are already involved.  I'll assume that many international corporations (including American ones) are stripping the countryside of their resources.  They pay off the fat and happy elite, while the common folk can't afford food.  Amirite?


I hate to say it, but the only solution would be a massive economic stimulus, such as an adjustable-rate IMF loan to the final form of the Syrian transitional government, sending in Arabic-speaking Western experts as educators and engineers, get every member of the Arab League ass-deep in keeping the program steady, and have the IMF pull the rug out from under them if ethnic cleansing starts up again.

I suppose an ethnic cleansing mob could be dispersed by military-grade lachrymatory agents delivered via drone, but a sociopolitical solution is preferable.
 
2013-05-04 03:39:52 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]

How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.

What do you expect from a left wing farktard?


That's it. Plonk.
 
2013-05-04 03:42:01 AM  
Hey remember that time Israel blew up a Syrian nuclear reactor? Fun times

Also the last strike into Syria/Lebanon was to stop Hezbollah from getting SAMs not chemical weapons
 
2013-05-04 03:43:14 AM  

clyph: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Pretty much, yeah.

Bullets kill what you point the gun at.
Poison gas kills every farking thing in the general area - friend, foe, and neutral and keeps on doing so for hours or even days.

Not to mention that gas is one of the most farking hideous ways to die known to man.   Mustard gas can take up to 3 (excruciatingly painful) weeks to kill you.  There's a reason every single country involved in WWI signed on to a ban on the use of chemical weapons - because that shiat is so farking scary that nobody wanted it used against them.

If you've got a strong stomach, Google for "effects of mustard gas".  And then keep in mind that modern chemical weapons make mustard gas (which is one of the oldest chemical warfare agents) look tame by comparison.


Mustard gas is a blister agent. Nerve gas is just Raid Fast-Kill Low-IrritantTM for people. It also breaks down in the presence of water or sunlight. This instability is a main reason why verifying its use is so difficult.
 
2013-05-04 03:44:56 AM  
I am disturbed by the lack of hot IDF chicks in this thread.   Y'all are slipping.

img545.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-04 03:53:00 AM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Mustard gas is a blister agent. Nerve gas is just Raid Fast-Kill Low-IrritantTM for people. It also breaks down in the presence of water or sunlight. This instability is a main reason why verifying its use is so difficult.


Whereas mustard is so farking persistent that there's shiat in France that's still contaminated after 100 years, and that's not even counting the unexploded shells that get found on a near-daily basis.

Also, mustard gas can still kill / fark up your ass even if you're wearing a gas mask.   It basically melts flesh, especially warm moist flesh.   Like your crotch.  And you probably won't even notice you've been exposed until 8 - 12 hours after it happened and your junk is a mass of oozing chemical burns.
 
2013-05-04 03:57:22 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: Number1Fan: Is this part of Israel's plan to start building Walmarts in Syria? Blow up all the Targets first?

Okay. You slipped that one in under the radar and made me laugh whilst maintaining a sarcastic smirk on my face.

For that, you get Total Fark'ed for a month.

Use this power wisely.


Why thank you very much, kind sir.
 
2013-05-04 04:17:13 AM  
This war's buzz-phrase will be "Red Line", just as the Iraq War had "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Obama referenced it earlier in the week, stating that chemical weapons used on civilians would cross his "Red Line". The article here references it, stating Syria crossed Israel's "Red Line". It wouldn't surprise me if the eventual carpet bombing of Assad's remaining forces by the US is called "Operation Red Line".
 
2013-05-04 04:20:32 AM  
I seems as though the oil has hit the anus.

/you're welcome
 
2013-05-04 04:27:05 AM  
Well this is going to be one hell of a sh-

Oh. That said 'Syria'. Not 'Iran'.

Nothing special. Carry on.
 
2013-05-04 04:49:22 AM  

mongbiohazard: ShawnDoc: MaudlinMutantMollusk: srhp29: HOLY WAR!!! HOLY WAR!!!

Here ya go link

/amazing how relevant that still is

I prefer this Holy War song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-3Z1SSJy0


Even better.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYlUe-SDqA0


About damn time someone linked this song.
 
2013-05-04 04:55:06 AM  

doofusgumby: It's the sabbath, you silly goose.


He doesn't work, he doesn't get in a car, he doesn't farking ride in a car, he doesn't pick up the phone, he doesn't turn on the oven, and he sure as shiat does not farking post.
 
2013-05-04 05:07:24 AM  

whatshisname: Zeppelininthesky: I am hoping nothing will come of this.

It won't. Syria is a pariah state and anybody can do anything to them and nobody will blink. Even Russia's given up on them.


Has Russia stopped backing them?  wouldn't suprise me, just hadn't heard that.

Syria's arms-purchasing budget must be empty...
 
2013-05-04 05:11:48 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Popcorn Johnny: Fark is gonna be awesome once all the kids get drafted.

There will never be another draft.  Warfare isn't waged primarily through boots on the ground anymore.  It's air, missile, and drone strikes followed by much smaller numbers of troops to root out the insurgents and keep the conquered from remounting any kind of organized resistance.


It would be nice, but, never say never.

The modern nation state still deals with existential threats by 1) throwing money at the problem, and 2) throwing bodies, usually young male bodies, at the problem.

The U.S. had the draft in the 19th and 20th centuries; I wouldn't bet any amount of money we won't see it again in the 21st.
 
2013-05-04 05:14:43 AM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: tuna fingers: AverageAmericanGuy: tuna fingers: Help  me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt.  The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers.  That doesn't sit right with me.  Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?

Pretty simple. Assad is a secular strongman. He and his father have used extremely violent tactics to suppress opposition.

The opposition is radical Muslim fanatics. They have been put down by Assad many times. Thomas Friedman describes Assad's philosophy as 'Hama rules', a reference to the destruction of the Islamist hotbed town of Hama when it tried to rise up against Assad's father.

So you support the strongman or you support terrorists. In a way it's Iraq all over again. If the strongman goes, the radical extremists take over. If the strongman stays, human rights violations will continue.

There's no good reason to get involved.

I'm gonna guess we are already involved.  I'll assume that many international corporations (including American ones) are stripping the countryside of their resources.  They pay off the fat and happy elite, while the common folk can't afford food.  Amirite?

I hate to say it, but the only solution would be a massive economic stimulus, such as an adjustable-rate IMF loan to the final form of the Syrian transitional government, sending in Arabic-speaking Western experts as educators and engineers, get every member of the Arab League ass-deep in keeping the program steady, and have the IMF pull the rug out from under them if ethnic cleansing starts up again.


I might be wrong, but my impression of the Arab League is that half of them would prefer that any given operation like that fail miserably...
 
2013-05-04 05:32:15 AM  
Assholes in the Middle East are fighting each other?

How incredibly odd. Surely nobody could ever have possibly predicted this.

Here is my shocked face:
 
2013-05-04 05:57:56 AM  

clyph: I am disturbed by the lack of hot IDF chicks in this thread.   Y'all are slipping.


That is seriously the most retarded meme ever.

Why not just post pics of "hot Kim Jong-un concubines" while you're at it?
 
2013-05-04 06:07:08 AM  

kgloverfl: Little boy and fat man? Acceptable or not? Must have been acceptable because the World Police didn't bomb us afterward.


Oh goodie, we're going into historical revisionism now with badly construed moral comparisons and ignoring historical factors that make it totally different.

Let's start off, shall we.

1) Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate military targets. This is one of the most important key factors that revisionists like to ignore, or paint as untrue.
2) Japan was given multiple instances where they would have been allowed to surrender and not suffer the wrath of the Allies through the bombings. The whole reason to demand an unconditional surrender was so that the Emperor could not remain in power as a "living God" to his people, and begin another era of Japanese imperialism.
3) The civilian people of Japan were warned through massive leaflet drop campaigns to GTFO.
4) Even after the bomb was dropped, elements of the Imperial Japanese Army stormed the imperial palace in an attempt to keep the Emperor from surrendering, and ending the war.
5) Dropping the bombs saved hundreds of thousands of lives on the Allied side, as well as possibly kept the entire Japanese people from being slaughtered, and the destruction of Japanese culture from occurring.
6) Since this event, the use of Nuclear Weapons has been deemed so horrendous and unthinkable that the world coined the phrase mutually assured destruction, and acted based on that philosophy.

But yes. Let's continue comparing this with the indiscriminate use of chemical weapons in a modern age against a civilian population with the lesser choice between two unthinkable choices during World War II.
 
2013-05-04 06:33:21 AM  

ShawnDoc: This can't be a real thing, it's not at the top of the Drudge Report.  Surely Isreal launching an airstrike against chemical weapons being transferred from Syria to Hezbollah is more important than Obama talking about guns being purchased in the US and smuggled into Mexico.


Wut?

You mean like Eric holders plan to just sell the cartels guns directly and then?.. What? Profit? Who farking knows right because fast and furious was under a democrat so no uproar?


Or that bankers that orchestrated/are orchestrating one of the biggest frauds against the American people in like ever? But are "too big to jail" in his own words?

I hope your double secret negative post baiting..
 
2013-05-04 06:48:23 AM  

Trapper439: Assholes in the Middle East are fighting each other?

How incredibly odd. Surely nobody could ever have possibly predicted this.

Here is my shocked face:


Lol, if I'm alive 50 years from now and get to read the kids comment from Hong Kong that is exactly that but about the former us, well, I'll just smile.
 
2013-05-04 07:48:53 AM  
FTA:  Ya'alon said any Syrian delivery of sophisticated weapons to rogue elements like Hezbollah would be a "red line" for Israel and "when they crossed this red line, we operated. We acted."

i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-05-04 07:59:20 AM  
The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.
 
2013-05-04 08:14:04 AM  

bugmn99: Cytokine Storm: What does CNN have to say?

Israeli missiles struck a Target in Secaucus.


At 15 times the speed of light.
 
2013-05-04 08:24:25 AM  

MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.


Thats how the British Empire rationalized itself. And the French, and the Belgians and the Spanish. It's funny how nationalists and reactionaries consider their own perception to be the only legitimate and acceptable one. WE don't like what YOU are doing, because what YOU are doing is interfering with our bankers and industrialists desires to rob you farking blind. If you do not cease to interfere with our robbery, we will kill you and everyone we deem as having a resemblance to you.

This line of thought has always been the legitimacy offered to the domestic population of the Nation doing the conquering.  Even the "educated, enlightened liberal pacifist" types accepted the British Crown's propaganda about it during the Zulu and Boer Wars and the slaughters in Kenya, Rhodesia, Burma and India. Germany systematically executed 11 million people in WW2, and inflicted another 15-20 million casualties through combat action. They had a long country mile to go before they would have caught up with the British, French and Belgians over the 250 years previous to WW2.
 
2013-05-04 08:28:58 AM  
See? They're big boys and don't need our blood and money. Good luck out there, Israel. Try not to sink any American ships.
 
2013-05-04 08:29:20 AM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: hydrazine


Hydrazine you say? Very interesting..... now where did I see that Astralite recipe..?
 
2013-05-04 08:38:40 AM  

Psylence: omnibus_necanda_sunt: hydrazine

Hydrazine you say? Very interesting..... now where did I see that Astralite recipe..?


You do NOT wanna fark with hydrazine. It melts things.
 
2013-05-04 08:43:41 AM  
i.imgur.com

/seriously not happening
//would be freaking awesome though if it was.
 
2013-05-04 08:47:23 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Revek: Its to bad the Jews and  the muslims over there don't love their children.

Pedo.


You need to work on your technique.
 
2013-05-04 08:47:41 AM  

Deathfrogg: MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.

Thats how the British Empire rationalized itself. And the French, and the Belgians and the Spanish. It's funny how nationalists and reactionaries consider their own perception to be the only legitimate and acceptable one. WE don't like what YOU are doing, because what YOU are doing is interfering with our bankers and industrialists desires to rob you farking blind. If you do not cease to interfere with our robbery, we will kill you and everyone we deem as having a resemblance to you.

This line of thought has always been the legitimacy offered to the domestic population of the Nation doing the conquering.  Even the "educated, enlightened liberal pacifist" types accepted the British Crown's propaganda about it during the Zulu and Boer Wars and the slaughters in Kenya, Rhodesia, Burma and India. Germany systematically executed 11 million people in WW2, and inflicted another 15-20 million casualties through combat action. They had a long country mile to go before they would have caught up with the British, French and Belgians over the 250 years previous to WW2.


Point taken, and certainly greed has been a motivation to bring civility to the barbarians in the past, but at the same time we cannot justify war in the current manner in which we fight it.

However do we allow human rights violations to continue, or do we intervene with a permanent game plan or a temporary one. Perhaps becoming a US territory is unneeded after the fact, but in these human rights situations instant sovereignty with a democracy is not the answer. They need a generation to grow up in relative peace and a decent education before natural change will occur, and that won't happen if the same type of assholes are allowed to reconstruct the government.
 
2013-05-04 08:49:04 AM  
Highly corrosive AND toxic to boot, and you can make the most powerful non-nuclear explosive with it. Thankfully outside the skillset of your average dumbassed wannabe jihadi.
 
2013-05-04 08:51:23 AM  
img.fark.net

PEW PEW PEW
 
2013-05-04 08:53:15 AM  

MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.


Oh you're saying we need to go back a few hundred years to an imperialist stance and conquer those savages in the middle east.  It's this holier than thou attitude that got us into the messes in Vietnam and Iraq, and I don't care how we fight, its our very mindset that makes these puppet regimes untenable.  It's a noble cause to want to end human rights violations, but it needs to be done by the will of these countries' own people without the intervention of any third parties.  The US or Israel rolling in with their big swinging dicks just makes it harder for the side that fights for liberty to maintain their momentum, it makes it easier to turn youth and the uneducated to the side of the authoritarians.   Can you blame common Afghani's, Iraqi's, South Vietnamese, for being apprehensive when a bunch of foreigners roll into their town like they own place? It becomes incredibly easy to convince the masses that these foreigners are lying/corrupt and are going to take over the country. These civil wars and revolutions, as bloody and lousy as they are, need to be let to run their own, organic, course...they need to be fully owned by the Syrian people, if the cause gets "corporate sponsorship" from some random other country, it just ends up doing more harm than good.

The best we can do is just to cut off any economic relationship with the regimes that are guilty of human rights violations.  This is easier said than done, especially when the regime(s) in question sit in a region that is loaded with huge deposits of oil...
 
2013-05-04 09:03:59 AM  

chocolate covered poop: MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.

Oh you're saying we need to go back a few hundred years to an imperialist stance and conquer those savages in the middle east.  It's this holier than thou attitude that got us into the messes in Vietnam and Iraq, and I don't care how we fight, its our very mindset that makes these puppet regimes untenable.  It's a noble cause to want to end human rights violations, but it needs to be done by the will of these countries' own people without the intervention of any third parties.  The US or Israel rolling in with their big swinging dicks just makes it harder for the side that fights for liberty to maintain their momentum, it makes it easier to turn youth and the uneducated to the side of the authoritarians.   Can you blame common Afghani's, Iraqi's, South Vietnamese, for being apprehensive when a bunch of foreigners roll into their town like they own place? It becomes incredibly easy to convince the masses that these foreigners are lying/corrupt and are going to take over the country. These civil wars and revolutions, as bloody and lousy as they are, need to be let to run their own, organic, course...they need to be fully owned by the Syrian people, if the cause gets "corporate sponsorship" from some random other country, it just ends up doing more harm than good.

The best we can do is just to cut off any economic relationship with the regimes that are guilty of human rights violations.  This is easier said than done, especially when the regime(s) in question sit in a region that is loaded with huge deposits of oil...


I've always been of the persuasion that whenever we invade a country like Iraq, or Afghanistan, we should just stay there. Grant them statehood and make their citizens American citizens who now fall under American law. It's not colonizing, it's just adding another state to the union.
 
2013-05-04 09:07:33 AM  

spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.


I agree if they went after chemical weapons, but if other articles are corre t they went after a convoy that had ground to ground missiles that were going to Hezbollah in Lebanon.
 
2013-05-04 09:09:58 AM  
Untwist your panties, there ain't gonna be no war, the Israelis identified a potential threat in Syrian territory and eliminated it. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last. The Israelis are not interested in starting a Syrian war and the Syrians are too busy brutally murdering each other to get involved in an Israeli war; the Egyptians are too busy spending the copious bribe money we send them each year to start swinging their teeny tiny dicks militarily. much as many of them would like to. Didn't Turkey carry out some airstrikes in Syria a few months ago? Why is it bad only when the Israelis protect themselves against an obvious threat?
 
2013-05-04 09:11:45 AM  
www.usmagazine.com
 
2013-05-04 09:15:03 AM  

Amos Quito: Your Average Witty Fark User: They can just keep going until Syria no longer exists for all I care.


Or until Israel becomes Wasrael.


bluebuddies.com
 
2013-05-04 09:16:39 AM  

sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]


Holy moley I love that poster. I shall shamelessly poach it. YOINK!
 
2013-05-04 09:30:52 AM  

Apik0r0s:


Why am I not surprised you are agreeing with that clown despite the civil war going on for months?
 
2013-05-04 09:42:07 AM  

sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]


The Gospel of John says the Serpent and Christ are kindred spirits.

John 9 & 10 tells the story of Jesus healing a blind apostate of Judaism. The story mirrors the structure of the Genesis story, featuring a man "blind since birth." Just as Adam and Eve disobeyed Jehovah by following the Serpent, so did the blind man disobey the religious authorities of his day by following Jesus. Just as Jehovah interrogates Adam and Eve after they eat from the tree, so do the pharisees interrogate the blind man after he is healed. Just as Jehovah expelled Adam and Eve for their disobedience, so do the pharisees expel the blind man from the temple for his.

Several passages indicate the Genesis reference is intentional, and intended to convey a relationship between the Serpent and Christ. First, the story uses the phrase "opened his eyes" to describe what Jesus did to the blind man. Genesis uses the phrase "opened their eyes" to describe what happened after Adam and Eve ate the fruit.

Moreover, John 9:32 says "Since the world began was it not heard that any man opened the eyes of one that was born blind." Clearly calling to mind Genesis. And again using the phrase "opened the eyes," just as Genesis uses the same phrase when Adam and Eve gain their sight.

10:19-21 features Jews debating whether or not Jesus is from God, or is a demon possessed madman. A credulous Jew resolves the issue with the rhetorical question "These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?" The apparent import of the question being that Jesus must have come from God, because demons cannot possibly open the eyes of the blind.

But if demons can't open the eyes of the blind, then how did the Serpent? Don't get hung up on the word "demon" either. Some translations say "devil." Some say "evil spirit." The point of the question is that Jesus could not have been demon/devil/evil spirit possessed because none of them can open the eyes of the blind.

There is one answer that can rescue the orthodox Genesis interpretation from the implications of John 9 & 10. That is that the Serpent didn't open anyone's eyes, the fruit did. All the Serpent did was tell Eve to eat it. But this argument ignores all the obviously intentional parallels between the stories to get hung up on a turn of phrase. I find much more persuasive the proposition the story is intended to convey that the Serpent and Jesus came from the same place.

What is that place? Some believe John was written by a "gnostic" Christian. And if my interpretation of John 9 & 10 is correct, I would have to guess the author was what was called a "Sethian Gnostic." Sethian Gnostics in particular believed that Jehovah was the demiurge, who they viewed as a malevolent being who enslaved humans for his own narcissistic gratification. They cited numerous Old Testament passages for the proposition that Jehovah was less than omnipotent, vain, and cruel; all in all, just not very god like. The place both Jesus and the Serpent came from, to them, was called the Pleroma, or what most would think of as heaven.

So maybe it wasn't Jesus who was Satan, but Jehovah.

tl;dr John 9 & 10 suggests Jesus and the Serpent both came from God, because John 9 & 10 parallels the structure of story of the fall, uses similar language to describe what Jesus and the Serpent did, and ends with a rhetorical question the apparent answer to which indicates that neither Jesus nor the Serpent were demons/devils/evil spirits.
 
2013-05-04 09:51:01 AM  

TheGregiss: chocolate covered poop: MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.

I've always been of the persuasion .

..that whenever we invade a country like Iraq, or Afghanistan, we should just stay there. Grant them statehood and make their citizens American citizens who now fall under American law. It's not colonizing, it's just adding another state to the union.

If their citizens democratically choose to become a territory/state of the US, then I wouldn't take any issue.  Just showing up and saying "We saved you!!! you're officially AmericansTMnow! Congratulations, here's your American flag lapel pins..." doesn't work for me however.
 
2013-05-04 09:59:22 AM  

TheGregiss: [i.imgur.com image 680x512]

/seriously not happening
//would be freaking awesome though if it was.


Good thing we live in a different ecosystem .....wait...what do you mean it's the same one? Well son of a.......
 
2013-05-04 10:03:50 AM  
What happens if we bomb all sides. Or the entire middle east. Then would all of this sh*t end?
 
2013-05-04 10:14:37 AM  

indarwinsshadow: What happens if we bomb all sides. Or the entire middle east. Then would all of this sh*t end?


a collective sigh of relief would be heard round the world.
the dow would dip, then jump.
we'd get over it.
 
2013-05-04 10:19:06 AM  
If they want to pock to hornet's nest fine, don't expect us to back you up.
 
2013-05-04 10:22:17 AM  

indarwinsshadow: What happens if we bomb all sides. Or the entire middle east. Then would all of this sh*t end?


"We can bomb the world to pieces
But we can't bomb it into peace"
 
2013-05-04 10:22:19 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-04 10:41:51 AM  
Last time Israel attacked Syria like this, they bombed a reactor under construction. The Syrians came in and cleaned it all up and pretended that nothing ever happened, so don't count on this starting a war.
 
2013-05-04 10:54:12 AM  

tuna fingers: Help me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt. The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers. That doesn't sit right with me. Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?


The "Arab Spring" has been an illusion all along.  While the people might want the dictators gone they're just replacing moderate dictators with Islamist ones.  This is a case of jumping from the frying pan to the fire.

KarmicDisaster: Last time Israel attacked Syria like this, they bombed a reactor under construction. The Syrians came in and cleaned it all up and pretended that nothing ever happened, so don't count on this starting a war.


No.  Last time was a shipment of missiles to Hezbollah.  Syria claimed a research facility was bombed but when you look the booms were in the parking lot.

You're thinking of a previous attack.
 
2013-05-04 10:56:29 AM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: spiderpaz: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Deathfrogg: kgloverfl: Killing people with bullets = ok
Killing people with chemical weapons = not ok

Got it.

Bullets are legal to sell.

So is ammonia and bleach...

Not when mixed together.

What does it make when you mix them?

/Answer that and you're a terrorist

Chloramine, dichloramine, and hydrazine. Basic redox chemistry.

/Goddamned k3wls.


That's nothing compared to this unconventional recipe for
dioxygen difluoride (O2F2) :  http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/

Now that's some scary shiat.
 
2013-05-04 11:02:04 AM  
This wouldn't bother me if Israel wasn't reliant on the US and state-side lobbyists in order for such action to even be considered. They're like the mouthy b*tch at the bar who hides behind her boyfriend while throwing drinks at people. The US really needs to crack down on Israel and make all aid dependent on them being 100% transparent (including getting Mossad the f*ck out of the US) and not taking any action without permission first.
 
2013-05-04 11:05:17 AM  
malvasiabianca.org
 
2013-05-04 11:05:57 AM  
They didn't hit targets in Syria, they hit Syria.

Calling them targets is a subtle way of implying they should have been hit. Well played.
 
2013-05-04 11:16:10 AM  
Can I hook this up to a 3D printer and create my own Israeli airstrike at home?
 
2013-05-04 11:19:41 AM  
Does the media still try to give Obama credit for the Arab Spring?
 
2013-05-04 11:20:58 AM  
So, if Israel performed these bombings aligned with rebel interests, and one of the major rebel supporters is al-Qaeda, is Israel then aligning itself with radical Islamists?
 
2013-05-04 11:21:17 AM  

bugontherug: Sethian Gnostics in particular believed that Jehovah was the demiurge, who they viewed as a malevolent being who enslaved humans for his own narcissistic gratification.


This is always fun to bring up with Bible/Koran/Torah thumpers. All Abrahamic religion is based on picking-and-choosing what is convenient from the mythical traditions and events of the day and ignoring the stuff that gets (got) in the way of the desired message. For some reason, some seem to think age = credibility...sorry, just because a religion is old doesn't make it less laughable, folks.

The Sethians viewpoints actually make a lot more sense than the more common viewpoint that the murderous and morally ambivalent douchebag of a god in the Old Testament was actually worthy of adoration.
 
2013-05-04 11:24:00 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Does the media still try to give Obama credit for the Arab Spring?


No, that was all Bush. He showed just how positive it was when you remove the head of state. Rainbows and little chocolates for everyone.
 
2013-05-04 11:28:47 AM  

MrEricSir: Would be hard to argue that a crazy dictator's chemical weapons being destroyed is a bad thing, especially if we had nothing (directly) to do with it.


I am really confused...  So cock-blocking terrorists is now a good thing only if we are not involved?
 
2013-05-04 11:32:32 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Can I hook this up to a 3D printer and create my own Israeli airstrike at home?


For fark's sake, not everything is related to the American gun debate. fark that shiat right off.
 
2013-05-04 11:41:22 AM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: NewportBarGuy: Can I hook this up to a 3D printer and create my own Israeli airstrike at home?

For fark's sake, not everything is related to the American gun debate. fark that shiat right off.


Nothing to do with guns, pal. I think the technology is incredibly cool. I was just making a joke. Relax.
 
2013-05-04 11:53:17 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Nemo's Brother: Does the media still try to give Obama credit for the Arab Spring?

No, that was all Bush. He showed just how positive it was when you remove the head of state. Rainbows and little chocolates for everyone.


I'm going to give both Bush and Obama passing marks for the whole 'Arab Spring' thing. Sure, some countries went from bad to worse, but I think of it as a phase they have to go through to 'grow up' into responsible countries. There simply is no shortcut from dictatorship to relaxed, responsible majority rule that respects the rights of minorities.
 
2013-05-04 12:02:06 PM  

Stone Meadow: I'm going to give both Bush and Obama passing marks for the whole 'Arab Spring' thing. Sure, some countries went from bad to worse, but I think of it as a phase they have to go through to 'grow up' into responsible countries. There simply is no shortcut from dictatorship to relaxed, responsible majority rule that respects the rights of minorities.


All governments of that type have a short life expectancy in this day and age, North Korea night be excluded. Same with some Sub-Sharan African nations. If your people find way to get an internet connection, they are going to find out the sky isn't purple and their leader is not God.

It's not so much about "growing-up" as it is with wresting power from a handful of people and distributing it out to a different group of people. Sometimes it's just new boss, same as the old boss. Sometimes, after a lot of work and effort, and death, it can work out. We'll be studying the whole thing as it develops over the next few decades. I don't see the Kurds not fighting for a carve out to form a state. To me, that's still the biggest underlying threat because it involves like 6 countries and would basically impact the entire Middle East. So far so good. It just seems like that, to me, is going to be the next big thing after the Syrian thing plays itself out.
 
2013-05-04 12:09:15 PM  

Deathfrogg: spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.

Who says we still give a damn about what Israel does? They have their own fish to fry, and their political leaders are all zionists.

Stupid is, as stupid dies.


Indeed.  fark Israel.  They've pulled enough shiat to deserve going down in flames with the rest of the crazies in the region.
 
2013-05-04 12:11:24 PM  
Israel must not be Orthodox because they allowed their military to work on the sabbath.
 
2013-05-04 12:24:24 PM  

spiderpaz: Using Israel to carry out any of these kind of strikes is the dumbest tactic possible.  Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey.  ANYTHING Israel does will be viewed in the worst light possible.  There is too much baggage there.


Yeah it's a good thing the Turks have never committed a genocide, stole land, or oppressed minorities...I guess it's OK though since they're muslim and did this to christians.
 
2013-05-04 12:25:56 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Israel must not be Orthodox because they allowed their military to work on the sabbath.


i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-04 12:47:37 PM  

tuna fingers: Help  me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt.  The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers.  That doesn't sit right with me.  Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?


They didn't get the arms they needed to actually overthrow Assad for last two years. Meanwhile they saw 70,000 of their countrymen slaughtered.

During the same time the only people willing to supply arms were al qaeda and related groups. The result was that the rebels became disenfranchised with the west and democratic countries that stood by and did nothing.

The result was that the rebels embraced the one group actually willing to help them and became radicals. Standing by and doing nothing created another hardline fundamentalist government waiting to take over.
 
2013-05-04 12:48:57 PM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Stone Meadow: globalwarmingpraiser: spiderpaz

calling out farkers not in thread.

Yeah...bad form. Shabbos started several hours ago in NY (where I believe my favorite Zionist is hanging these days), so we won't see him for another 18 hours or so.

It'll be hilarious watching him try to catch up with the 250+ comments. He'll probably also give us a liberal dose of "told you so," because he has super secret Hebrew Heroes friends that told him all about this a few days ago.

It's weird, he didn't use to be an ass on anything other than nitpicking Israel threads, but now he's poking into gun threads, porn threads, potato threads, et. al.

Was he like that even before he went Full Hetard?


Know what bugs me the most?

When he tells us what Americans think on pop culture issues.

Even if you live here it is presumptuous to make those sweeping statements.
 
2013-05-04 12:56:19 PM  
www.taghribnews.com
Everyone is fanning the flames.
 
2013-05-04 01:13:03 PM  
The avalance has begun
i.ytimg.com
It is too late for the pebbles to vote

 
2013-05-04 01:29:43 PM  

NostroZ: FTA: We know that the Israeli position is they will strike at Syria if they see weapons being transferred from syria to hezbollah forces in lebanon."
According to CNN, these strikes appear not to have been targeted at chemical weapons.
And, importantly, Israeli planes, according to Syria, do not appear to have entered Syrian airspace.

So... sounds like the Israeli'shiat a transfer of weapons to terrorists in a volatile region, their backyard (possibly even in their own airspace).

Better for them to help out in that region than just giving out weapons to 'rebels'.


I think you mean their neighbor's backyard.
 
2013-05-04 01:33:19 PM  

jso2897: nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]

How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.

Or just bored and looking for a laugh. I always find it amusing when people who take their superstitions seriously get all butthurt.


No its willful ignorance of the subject matter. If I came here stating falsehoods about science would you give me a pass 'for blowing off steam'?
 
2013-05-04 01:51:20 PM  
I don't care for what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinian population, but this isn't the first time they've done this, and if they have actionable intelligence, they should... well... act on it.
 
2013-05-04 01:54:21 PM  

that bosnian sniper: So, if Israel performed these bombings aligned with rebel interests, and one of the major rebel supporters is al-Qaeda, is Israel then aligning itself with radical Islamists?


Israel stopping weapons transfer from Syria to the islamic terrorist organization Hezbollah in Lebanon ismore along the lines of preventing an islamic terrorist organization from having advanced missiles because they tend to fire their missiles at Israel on occasion.
 
2013-05-04 01:56:20 PM  

nmemkha: jso2897: nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]

How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.

Or just bored and looking for a laugh. I always find it amusing when people who take their superstitions seriously get all butthurt.

No its willful ignorance of the subject matter. If I came here stating falsehoods about science would you give me a pass 'for blowing off steam'?


See now I'd think willful ignorance is pretending that the judeo-christian god is kind and loving and NOT an evil piece of garbage despite him ordering his followers to murder anyone who insists on worshiping other gods, ordering/permitting his followers to enslave other humans, justifying rape and instructing his followers to commit horrific war crimes... but I guess I must have been mistaken.
 
2013-05-04 02:01:26 PM  

mongbiohazard: nmemkha: jso2897: nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

[i.imgur.com image 640x444]

How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.

Or just bored and looking for a laugh. I always find it amusing when people who take their superstitions seriously get all butthurt.

No its willful ignorance of the subject matter. If I came here stating falsehoods about science would you give me a pass 'for blowing off steam'?

See now I'd think willful ignorance is pretending that the judeo-christian god is kind and loving and NOT an evil piece of garbage despite him ordering his followers to murder anyone who insists on worshiping other gods, ordering/permitting his followers to enslave other humans, justifying rape and instructing his followers to commit horrific war crimes... but I guess I must have been mistaken.


That's from the Old Testament and a great critique of Judaic Tradition (and relevant to this thread). But, what did Christ Himself specifically have to say on the issues you mentioned?
 
2013-05-04 02:08:45 PM  
There were unconfirmed reports last month, that Syria's President Assad, was shot and killed, by a bodyguard. Has anyone seen any proof, one way or the other? Also, that his older brother, may have been killed, or crippled, last year. Any confirmation? Are there any Assads left? Who is really running the Syrian government right now?
 
2013-05-04 02:16:43 PM  

smitty04: [www.taghribnews.com image 600x387]
Everyone is fanning the flames.


Of course. We apparently haven't had enough of war. Hope you've enjoyed the momentary positive bump in the economy.
 
2013-05-04 02:17:33 PM  

Amos Quito: As soon as Palestine is declared a "state" Israel will attack.


/One State solution becomes Final Solution


You know what's hilarious besides your usual ignorance and jew-hate ? the exact opposite actually happened, the moment modern Israel was declared a state back in 1948, the arabs attacked in order to slaughter every jew. They failed spectacularly.

And the palestinians declared their "state" back in 1988. You sure know your history.
 
2013-05-04 02:21:59 PM  
Good on the Jews. Now that Obama is absolved of having to lead on this isssue, maybe the U.S can help out too.
 
2013-05-04 02:26:51 PM  

TappingTheVein: And the palestinians declared their "state" back in 1988. You sure know your history.


If all that had to happen was for Palestine to declare themselves a state, why is Israel still fighting recognition?
 
2013-05-04 02:34:22 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: If all that had to happen was for Palestine to declare themselves a state, why is Israel still fighting recognition?


I think Israel is a bit upset that the palestinian state as de-facto declared by both palestinian factions, places their "state" where Israel now stands.

it was kind of awkward when Obama visited Rammallah and the palestinians had to remove statues of their "palestinian state" placed on what is now Israel.
 
2013-05-04 02:45:56 PM  

TappingTheVein: I think Israel is a bit upset that the palestinian state as de-facto declared by both palestinian factions, places their "state" where Israel now stands.


I'm still not sure what your point is. Is Israel not bulldozing Palestinian settlements illegally? Trying to paint the Israelis as the victims in this does nothing but make you look foolish.
 
2013-05-04 02:52:32 PM  

TheGregiss: I've always been of the persuasion that whenever we invade a country like Iraq, or Afghanistan, we should just stay there. Grant them statehood and make their citizens American citizens who now fall under American law. It's not colonizing, it's just adding another state to the union.



What a great idea! Then they can all freely immigrate into your neighborhood en masse! Seems to be working out just fine for Great Britain!
 
2013-05-04 02:56:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I'm still not sure what your point is. Is Israel not bulldozing Palestinian settlements illegally?


I'm not sure how this is relevant, but Israel destroys houses of suicide bombers, weapons hideouts, snipers etc. They also destroy houses of israeli settlers built illegally.

cameroncrazy1984: Trying to paint the Israelis as the victims in this does nothing but make you look foolish.


What ? i was talking about Amos Quito's usual hilarious ignorance. you find it odd that Israel dislikes the notion that the palestinians declaring their state in Israel's location ? Ok..

in other words, what the hell are you talking about ?
 
2013-05-04 03:00:42 PM  

TappingTheVein: you find it odd that Israel dislikes the notion that the palestinians declaring their state in Israel's location ? Ok..


What's funny is that YOU don't find it odd that the Israelis are doing the exact same thing to the Palestinians.
 
2013-05-04 03:02:42 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: What's funny is that YOU don't find it odd that the Israelis are doing the exact same thing to the Palestinians.


Mainly because they don't.
 
2013-05-04 03:05:01 PM  

chocolate covered poop: These civil wars and revolutions, as bloody and lousy as they are, need to be let to run their own, organic, course...they need to be fully owned by the Syrian people, if the cause gets "corporate sponsorship" from some random other country, it just ends up doing more harm than good.
The best we can do is just to cut off any economic relationship with the regimes that are guilty of human rights violations.  This is easier said than done, especially when the regime(s) in question sit in a region that is loaded with huge deposits of oil...


Are you kidding? There is big money to be made in warmongering. Do you expect Halliburton to pass that up? why do you hate the job creators?
 
2013-05-04 03:06:17 PM  

TappingTheVein: cameroncrazy1984: What's funny is that YOU don't find it odd that the Israelis are doing the exact same thing to the Palestinians.

Mainly because they don't.


Then it is you who doesn't know your history.
 
2013-05-04 03:20:56 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Then it is you who doesn't know your history.


Apparently i know it better than you. Just like i know that a palestinian country/nation (in the context the arabs who call themselves "palestinians" today) never existed.
 
2013-05-04 03:26:59 PM  

TappingTheVein: Just like i know that a palestinian country/nation (in the context the arabs who call themselves "palestinians" today) never existed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_i nstrument)
 
2013-05-04 03:32:06 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_i nstrument)


Thank you for proving my point. That is part of the British Mandate of Palestine, which also includes Jordan. Not the mythical arab "palestinian state" lie.
 
2013-05-04 03:33:02 PM  

TappingTheVein: cameroncrazy1984: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_for_Palestine_(legal_i nstrument)

Thank you for proving my point. That is part of the British Mandate of Palestine, which also includes Jordan. Not the mythical arab "palestinian state" lie.


I'm sorry, but at what point does that denote that a Palestine never existed in that area?
 
2013-05-04 03:39:00 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I'm sorry, but at what point does that denote that a Palestine never existed in that area?


Because you fail to understand that "Palestine" refers to different things in different times. For example, a century ago when you were referring to 'palestinians' you were talking about the jews living in the region.

The British Mandate does not equal the "palestinian state" the arabs lie about, mainly because it never existed.
You mentioned knowledge of history ?
 
2013-05-04 03:40:06 PM  

TappingTheVein: cameroncrazy1984: I'm sorry, but at what point does that denote that a Palestine never existed in that area?

Because you fail to understand that "Palestine" refers to different things in different times. For example, a century ago when you were referring to 'palestinians' you were talking about the jews living in the region.

The British Mandate does not equal the "palestinian state" the arabs lie about, mainly because it never existed.
You mentioned knowledge of history ?


Sort of like how America used to refer to a collection of British colonies? So, are we not allowed to have a free country on the continent called America?
 
2013-05-04 03:43:26 PM  

tuna fingers: Help  me out here.
I'm one to read the comments on liveleak, and it appears that the opinions there support the govt.  The rebels are mostly "terrorists" according to liveleak presusers.  That doesn't sit right with me.  Has the Arab Spring just gone tired?
Who is in the right here?


In the case of the Syrian Government and the so called "Rebels", you have bad and worse.
Which one is "Bad" and which one is "Worse"?
It is up to you to research both sides and make a decision as to which label belongs to which group.
Research and choose wisely.
I hope the U.S. Government stays on the sidelines a while longer and just lets Syria consume itself.
 
2013-05-04 03:44:14 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Sort of like how America used to refer to a collection of British colonies?


No, not remotely resembling the situation i'm talking about.
 
2013-05-04 03:47:20 PM  

TappingTheVein: cameroncrazy1984: Sort of like how America used to refer to a collection of British colonies?

No, not remotely resembling the situation i'm talking about.


And exactly why is that? Your position cannot be that there was nobody in the mandate of Palestine of Arab descent prior to 1948, because that's literally untrue. So, how is it different?
 
2013-05-04 03:52:07 PM  
You know what the best part of this thread is?

The lack of a jingo fundamentalist.
 
2013-05-04 03:58:52 PM  

Raharu: You know what the best part of this thread is?

The lack of a jingo fundamentalist.


Gotta love arbirtrary god-rules!
 
2013-05-04 04:19:48 PM  
So I wonder at what point do China and Russia start getting sick of our lapdog shiat?

Or are they already on board with the US being an out of control international bulldog controlled by neocons?
 
2013-05-04 04:20:15 PM  

spiderpaz: "Our best, most valuable ally in this theater is and has always been Turkey."



Haven't done much reading about Turkey's political trajectory over the past 10 years, have we?
 
2013-05-04 04:34:10 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Raharu: You know what the best part of this thread is?

The lack of a jingo fundamentalist.

Gotta love arbirtrary god-rules!


I'm surprised he doesn't use one of the many ways around them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbat_elevator

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y6E_6FUttUY/T2-VjSKPGlI/AAAAAAAARDc/8Puhgl 8o BpE/s1600/0202128.jpg
 
2013-05-04 04:43:27 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: And exactly why is that? Your position cannot be that there was nobody in the mandate of Palestine of Arab descent prior to 1948, because that's literally untrue. So, how is it different?


Because both jews and arabs lived there and it was not the mythical arab "palestinian state" the arabs lie about.
And if you actually know any history of the region you would know that the original plan was to partition the land based on existing jews/arab populations, guess who accepted and who rejected it and tried to slaughter the other side ?
 
2013-05-04 04:55:21 PM  

Theory Of Null: Boom Shakalaka. So it begins.


Proxy war! The USA's favourite hobby!
 
2013-05-04 05:07:47 PM  

TappingTheVein: Because both jews and arabs lived there and it was not the mythical arab "palestinian state" the arabs lie about.


It was also not strictly Israel then, was it? Again, going back to the American colonial analogy.
 
2013-05-04 05:09:42 PM  

DarKrow: As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.


Hezbollah, Iran and Russia would like a word.
 
2013-05-04 05:35:15 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: It was also not strictly Israel then, was it? Again, going back to the American colonial analogy.


No, hence Partition Plan. It was when Israel won the war in 48. Again, your analogy has nothing to do with the history of the region. The palestinians claim it was a mythical arab country called "palestine" which never existed. The British Mandate does not equal the "palestinian state".

You don't seem to know the basic history of the region and you obviously don't understand what the palestinians are claiming.
 
2013-05-04 05:47:06 PM  

TappingTheVein: The palestinians claim it was a mythical arab country called "palestine" which never existed. The British Mandate does not equal the "palestinian state".


Why not? It was literally a place called Palestine in the same exact place. Exactly how does that not equal Palestine?
 
2013-05-04 05:59:18 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Why not? It was literally a place called Palestine in the same exact place. Exactly how does that not equal Palestine?


Because it was The British Mandate of Palestine, which also included Jordan, ruled by the British. Where also jews lived. It was not an arab country or nation, it was not the arab lie of an arab nation of "palestine". Like i said, the word "Palestine" meant different things in different time periods.
The arab "palestinian" nationality is a modern artificial concept, they admit to it themselves.

This is not rocket science, i don't understand why it seems to be so difficult for you to understand.
 
2013-05-04 06:12:49 PM  

TappingTheVein: Because it was The British Mandate of Palestine, which also included Jordan, ruled by the British.


Okay, and? The 13 American colonies were a set of British colonies which also included part of Canada, ruled by the British. Does that necessarily preclude a free American state on the North American continent?

Obviously it doesn't, and that's the point.
 
2013-05-04 06:26:58 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Okay, and? The 13 American colonies were a set of British colonies which also included part of Canada, ruled by the British. Does that necessarily preclude a free American state on the North American continent?

Obviously it doesn't, and that's the point.


How does that bare any comparison to the arab claim of their "arab nation of Palestine" which never existed ? you seem to be having a lot of difficulty grasping the difference between British Mandate and an arab nation of "palestine". not to mention your ignorance of the historic significance of the Partition Plan and who rejected it and what they did next which basically sets the motion to everything which happened in the region since.
 
2013-05-04 06:55:58 PM  

TappingTheVein: How does that bare any comparison to the arab claim of their "arab nation of Palestine" which never existed


Because clearly it did exist?
 
2013-05-04 06:58:58 PM  
It's hard to argue with someone whose entire position is that America should not have a free state on the North American continent because prior to its founding it was called the American Colonies and was ruled by the British, therefore no Americans ever lived there prior to 1787.
 
2013-05-04 07:53:24 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: It's hard to argue with someone whose entire position is that America should not have a free state on the North American continent because prior to its founding it was called the American Colonies and was ruled by the British, therefore no Americans ever lived there prior to 1787.



Tappy is a piece of work.

His lies are so blatant and transparent, his arguments so ludicrous, and his positions so despicable that I honestly wonder whether he is, as he claims, an "atheist Jew" living in Israel.

Tappy lies so shamelessly that I wonder if he is in fact a clever anti-Semite pretending to be an Israeli Jew for the express purpose of making ALL Jews, Israelis and Zionists look bad.

If so, he's doing a fabulous job.

And speaking of Zionists - Shabbat ends at 8:39 PM New York Time so I suspect we'll be hearing from the "Unsettled Settler" within the hour.
 
2013-05-04 08:13:17 PM  

Amos Quito: cameroncrazy1984: It's hard to argue with someone whose entire position is that America should not have a free state on the North American continent because prior to its founding it was called the American Colonies and was ruled by the British, therefore no Americans ever lived there prior to 1787.


Tappy is a piece of work.

His lies are so blatant and transparent, his arguments so ludicrous, and his positions so despicable that I honestly wonder whether he is, as he claims, an "atheist Jew" living in Israel.

Tappy lies so shamelessly that I wonder if he is in fact a clever anti-Semite pretending to be an Israeli Jew for the express purpose of making ALL Jews, Israelis and Zionists look bad.

If so, he's doing a fabulous job.

And speaking of Zionists - Shabbat ends at 8:39 PM New York Time so I suspect we'll be hearing from the "Unsettled Settler" within the hour.


Five bucks says his first words are 'called it!'
 
2013-05-04 08:35:38 PM  

nmemkha: mongbiohazard: nmemkha: jso2897: nmemkha: sheep snorter: Religious wars are fun. More souls for the stew.

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How ignorant do you have to be to condemn Christianity in a thread about the actions of Israel?  Pretty damn ignorant.

Or just bored and looking for a laugh. I always find it amusing when people who take their superstitions seriously get all butthurt.

No its willful ignorance of the subject matter. If I came here stating falsehoods about science would you give me a pass 'for blowing off steam'?

See now I'd think willful ignorance is pretending that the judeo-christian god is kind and loving and NOT an evil piece of garbage despite him ordering his followers to murder anyone who insists on worshiping other gods, ordering/permitting his followers to enslave other humans, justifying rape and instructing his followers to commit horrific war crimes... but I guess I must have been mistaken.

That's from the Old Testament and a great critique of Judaic Tradition (and relevant to this thread). But, what did Christ Himself specifically have to say on the issues you mentioned?


That he came not to destroy the word but to uphold it, and that he came bearing not peace but a sword, and that we must all abandon each other and follow him if we want into heaven.
 
2013-05-04 10:04:40 PM  
"research center"?
 
2013-05-04 10:32:54 PM  
DarKrow: As if anyone's on Syria's side at this point.

Well... it might elicit a stern scowl from ol' Pooty-poot



Well...Pooty-poot has a bunch of ships parked offshore, so he's clearly paying attention.
 
2013-05-04 10:33:24 PM  
Ooooooooh, an airstrike on some trucks that may or may not have been carrying military targets and may or may not have been in enemy territory.  Ooooooohhhhhh.  This totally isn't something that happens on a weekly basis in the ME.

Everyone's making like this is a big deal, but if this kind of shiat actually mattered, we'd be in World War 137 by now.
 
2013-05-04 10:37:45 PM  

Deathfrogg: Sorry, Mr. FBI man, thats classified.


Then why did my high school chemistry teacher tell us the answer?

He was teaching us kitchen safety. Also, chemistry teachers like to blow things up.
 
2013-05-04 11:02:21 PM  

BuckTurgidson: "research center"?


The Jamraya research center just outside Damascus.

Israel already struck the place with missiles albeit less spectacularly back in January and this attack is now the third by Israel within Syria this year.

Israel are calling the sophisticated ground to ground missiles "game changing" in terms of the impact they would have if Lebanese based Hezbollah militia guys got their hands on them and I can see their point.
 
2013-05-04 11:35:09 PM  

quatchi: BuckTurgidson: "research center"?

The Jamraya research center just outside Damascus.

Israel already struck the place with missiles albeit less spectacularly back in January and this attack is now the third by Israel within Syria this year.

Israel are calling the sophisticated ground to ground missiles "game changing" in terms of the impact they would have if Lebanese based Hezbollah militia guys got their hands on them and I can see their point.



Funny that "America" (politicians - including Obama) seems to agree that Is-Ra-El has the "right to defend itself" - but that their enemies have no such right.

Do you recall what Izzy did to Lebanon during their last scuffle?


And as we're at the end of the thread (WHAR FEARLESS LEADER, WHAR?) I may as well throw this in:

'Israel may be behind Syrian chemical weapons use'

"Former Bush administration official says Syrian chemical weapons use might've been "false flag operation" of Israel"

That's right, Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff is seriously implying that Israel may have deployed chemical weapons in Syria as a "False Flag" op with the intent of dragging the US (et al) into the conflict to serve the interests of the Zionist Regime.

Would you be surprised?
 
2013-05-05 12:42:13 AM  

Amos Quito: That's right, Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff is seriously implying that Israel may have deployed chemical weapons in Syria as a "False Flag" op with the intent of dragging the US (et al) into the conflict to serve the interests of the Zionist Regime.

Would you be surprised?


A "Former" COS to the SOS and "retired" military man speculating with many qualifiers on Current TV that we don't have enough information to discern the truth behind the WMD use allegations at this point is not particularly surprising.

Him throwing "false flag" charge into the mix *was* a bit of an eye opener.

"We don't know what the chain of custody is. This could've been an Israeli false flag operation, it could've been an opposition in Syria... or it could've been an actual use by Bashar Assad. But we certainly don't know with the evidence we've been given. And what I'm hearing from the intelligence community is that that evidence is really flakey," retired Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff, told Cenk Uygur in an interview with Current TV.

Funny how current military types never seem to be able to speak out like this.

Not saying his speculation is totally baseless here but it is a little wild and not particularly helpful.

Bottom line is that Obama has already stated that he doesn't envision US boots on the ground in Syria and that Israel with Turkey's help should be able to deal with the situation.

In the meantime government backed forces are killing Sunni families by the dozens in Banias causing thousands to flee for their lives.

So there's that.

There's no real good solution here just various degrees of hellish and less hellish.
 
2013-05-05 01:19:39 AM  

quatchi: Amos Quito: That's right, Colin Powell's former Chief of Staff is seriously implying that Israel may have deployed chemical weapons in Syria as a "False Flag" op with the intent of dragging the US (et al) into the conflict to serve the interests of the Zionist Regime.

Would you be surprised?

A "Former" COS to the SOS and "retired" military man speculating with many qualifiers on Current TV that we don't have enough information to discern the truth behind the WMD use allegations at this point is not particularly surprising.

Him throwing "false flag" charge into the mix *was* a bit of an eye opener.

"We don't know what the chain of custody is. This could've been an Israeli false flag operation, it could've been an opposition in Syria... or it could've been an actual use by Bashar Assad. But we certainly don't know with the evidence we've been given. And what I'm hearing from the intelligence community is that that evidence is really flakey," retired Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff, told Cenk Uygur in an interview with Current TV.

Funny how current military types never seem to be able to speak out like this.



"Current military types" are restrained by the rigid restrictions placed on them by their superiors, and face dire consequences should they deviate.

Didn't anyone tell you?


quatchi: Not saying his speculation is totally baseless here but it is a little wild and not particularly helpful.



I suspect his "speculation" arises from his experience in dealing with the false intelligence and other shenanigans that he and his fellows faced when dealing with the duplicitous behavior of Israel - especially during the period preceding the US' unjustified attack on Iraq - effectively serving Israeli interests.


quatchi: Bottom line is that Obama has already stated that he doesn't envision US boots on the ground in Syria and that Israel with Turkey's help should be able to deal with the situation.



Apparently (hopefully?) Obama sees through Israel's deception, and is determined NOT to follow Bush into the pitfall that the Zionist State has laid for their own convenient benefit.

Good for him.

Little wonder that the Israelis despise him.


quatchi: In the meantime government backed forces are killing Sunni families by the dozens in Banias causing thousands to flee for their lives.

So there's that.

There's no real good solution here just various degrees of hellish and less hellish.



Then "less hellish" should be the clear choice.

And as the Zionist State is in total disregard for the benefit of the Syrian People, but only for their own selfish, racist interests, I would think that it would be wise to suspect their well known duplicity, and to expect that ANY "intelligence" they offer is likely purely self-serving, and should be regarded as such until proven otherwise.

There is NOTHING that Israel would like more than to have the US intervene - BOOTS ON THE GROUND - in Syria, installing an Israel-Friendly puppet government to replace the pesky Assad - and then on to Iran, as the Zionist hegemony continues to metastasize throughout the Middle East.
 
2013-05-05 02:00:24 AM  

TheGregiss: chocolate covered poop: MayoSlather: The US needs to stay the fark out. That is, unless we change how we fight wars. No more vietnams, or Iraq type fighting. If a country is unstable and rife with human rights issues then we go in instantly remove the controlling regime, and after 10 years living under our defined law it becomes a US territory with a secular democracy. Basically, if you suck you lose your sovereignty.

Oh you're saying we need to go back a few hundred years to an imperialist stance and conquer those savages in the middle east.  It's this holier than thou attitude that got us into the messes in Vietnam and Iraq, and I don't care how we fight, its our very mindset that makes these puppet regimes untenable.  It's a noble cause to want to end human rights violations, but it needs to be done by the will of these countries' own people without the intervention of any third parties.  The US or Israel rolling in with their big swinging dicks just makes it harder for the side that fights for liberty to maintain their momentum, it makes it easier to turn youth and the uneducated to the side of the authoritarians.   Can you blame common Afghani's, Iraqi's, South Vietnamese, for being apprehensive when a bunch of foreigners roll into their town like they own place? It becomes incredibly easy to convince the masses that these foreigners are lying/corrupt and are going to take over the country. These civil wars and revolutions, as bloody and lousy as they are, need to be let to run their own, organic, course...they need to be fully owned by the Syrian people, if the cause gets "corporate sponsorship" from some random other country, it just ends up doing more harm than good.

The best we can do is just to cut off any economic relationship with the regimes that are guilty of human rights violations.  This is easier said than done, especially when the regime(s) in question sit in a region that is loaded with huge deposits of oil...

I've always been of the persuasion ...


thats thats
hmmm actually theres some sense to that
still has the "convert or die" flavor
but has the advantage of eventually being done, once and for all
with everyone on one side (for a while)
 
2013-05-05 03:27:17 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Because clearly it did exist?


It didn't, such a country/nation never ever existed. Again, you're confusing British Mandate of Palestine with an arab country called Palestine which never existed.
This is what the palestinians are claiming, very clearly.

Amos Quito: Tappy is a piece of work.

His lies are so blatant and transparent, his arguments so ludicrous, and his positions so despicable that I honestly wonder whether he is, as he claims, an "atheist Jew" living in Israel.

Tappy lies so shamelessly that I wonder if he is in fact a clever anti-Semite pretending to be an Israeli Jew for the express purpose of making ALL Jews, Israelis and Zionists look bad.

If so, he's doing a fabulous job.


Amos Quitois apparently still in his projection stage after the last time i exposed his anti-semitic lying bullshiat and his lack of basic knowledge of history, which is evident in this thread as well.
 
2013-05-05 03:28:34 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: It's hard to argue with someone whose entire position is that America should not have a free state on the North American continent because prior to its founding it was called the American Colonies and was ruled by the British, therefore no Americans ever lived there prior to 1787.


That's not what i'm saying and it's not remotely relevant to the situation in the Middle-East as i explained repeatedly, besides all of that you are absolutely correct.
 
2013-05-05 03:45:28 AM  

Amos Quito: 'Israel may be behind Syrian chemical weapons use'


Oh i'm sure you believe that is 100% true.

Amos Quito: That's right, Colin Powell's former Chief


The same guy who was responsible for the information used by Powell in 2003 at the UN when he presented his data about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.
But what he says is against them jews so let's take his guess as fact. Right, anti-semite retard ?

Amos Quito: And as the Zionist State is in total disregard for the benefit of the Syrian People, but only for their own selfish, racist interests, I would think that it would be wise to suspect their well known duplicity, and to expect that ANY "intelligence" they offer is likely purely self-serving, and should be regarded as such until proven otherwise.


I like how you even adopted the islamic jihadists phrases, 'the zionist state'. That's why you are my favorite Fark's anti-semite.
 
2013-05-05 10:58:14 AM  
guys guys guys
its a done deal
dont fight - watch tv and watch other people fight
get your popcorn    i expect the w-porn to get good

plenty of bodies and pretty explosions

the only thing left is to convince people that we do these things for humanitarian reasons and not self interest
 
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