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2013-05-04 10:21:53 AM  

MFAWG: pacmanner: Not if these guys have anything to say about it.

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That's kinda the  point: That picture could have been taken anytime in the last 20 years. I'd guess the band sounds like most other similar looking bands from the last 20 years.


Why the fark does that matter man? They're rocking out and having fun. Maybe you should listen before sounding off like a tool. Better yet go listen to some pre-fab computer generated pop shiate.
 
2013-05-04 10:45:46 AM  
Popular guitar centered music is now mostly acoustic. I wouldn't call it Rock, though.
 
2013-05-04 10:55:39 AM  

Eufah Kennidiets: Fallout Boy: MrVeach: As long as there are white people, no

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I took a scan of all these obscure bands that people have mentioned in this thread and I will bet that Tom Morello can out-play all of them. Tom needs to get out of the purgatory that is RATM ASAP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yjlpPQ-UYU

Skip to 2:40.


Good God, Cornell is abysmal.  He really can't sing.

And per usual, you can't really tell about Morello's playing because it's mired in effects.



Cornell cant sing?
bitchspot.jadedragononline.com

AND

For guitar not mired in effects.
 
2013-05-04 11:10:18 AM  

pacmanner: MFAWG: pacmanner: Not if these guys have anything to say about it.

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That's kinda the  point: That picture could have been taken anytime in the last 20 years. I'd guess the band sounds like most other similar looking bands from the last 20 years.

Why the fark does that matter man? They're rocking out and having fun. Maybe you should listen before sounding off like a tool. Better yet go listen to some pre-fab computer generated pop shiate.


Decaf, dude. Then go try to create something that isn't a pale imitation of something somebody already did, and did it better.
 
2013-05-04 11:16:27 AM  
Someone writes this article every 5-6 years. Rock does its thing: it grows, it fades a little when the market is oversaturated, new toys/computers come in, everyone says rock is dead, people get sick of the toys, and guitar rock comes back.

Even now Mumford and Sons and their clones are on the local Top 40 and AC stations in town. It ain't metal or plugged in, but it's guitar rock.
 
2013-05-04 11:16:48 AM  
The new Megadeth cd with Chris Broderick will have the best guitar that you will hear this year.
 
2013-05-04 11:32:15 AM  

enderthexenocide: old school mainstream rock music is kind of in a weird place.  it's too "heavy" for most mainstream audiences who like pop music, but many actual rock fans typically lean toward the heavy metal side, so plain rock bands are too much like pop.  personally i love hard rock and heavy metal, but i can't listen to mainstream rock acts like the black keys because the music is just boring to me.

but the guitar as an instrument is still very much alive, just not in popular music at the moment.  i think that the guitar is even more vital to metal music now than it was back in the 80s when thrash was evolving and hair metal was at its peak.


...are you me? That's almost precisely the way I see things, but said better than I could word it.
 
2013-05-04 12:06:51 PM  

LemSkroob: Nope. there are good new rock bands all the time, just dont expect to hear them on the radio. Thats fine with me though.


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I haven't listened to radio in...Jeebus, 10 years.

I
 
2013-05-04 12:09:00 PM  
probably not, but it is probably not being whored out by the music industry like it used to because it's not as popular as it was in its prime
 
2013-05-04 12:19:39 PM  

Third_Uncle_Eno: Whenever I turn on the modern rock station, it's just generic meh riffs. Nothing memorable.
What happened to all the great riff makers of the 60's 70's and 80's? Has the knowledge not been passed down?


the music machine squeezes out the soul of the sound for profits
 
2013-05-04 12:36:06 PM  
Just get a better
 
2013-05-04 12:37:05 PM  
That feel when I erase everything in my post except the part I actually wanted to erase.

This band didn't vet the other acts they were going to be performing with and this made them feel out-of-place. I don't see how one band's self-caused shiatty experience translates into guitar rock as a whole being a dying art form.
 
2013-05-04 12:39:45 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Heavy Metal is angry, childish noise for adolescent boys and men who are hanging onto their youth.

Pop is mechanically-separated, sugar-coated piss in the ears of the mundane audience that adores it.

Hip-Hop is stolen rock and electronica licks with incredibly dumb, marble-mouthed idiots shouting vain obscenities over it.

Dubstep is the noise a synthesizer makes when you beat it with a rock and then flip the arpeggio on "auto loop" for fifteen minutes.

Country is steel guitars and drums playing the same blues riff while a redneck whines about his dog, girl, truck, or politics.

Acid Jazz is what happens when you throw a jazz band into a meat grinder connected to an amp.

Blues is one song with different words.

J-Pop is one song with different-but-similar words.

Modern R&B is the auto-tuned advertising jingle for the town harlot.

Classical is old white guys playing scales on ancient instruments for three hours.

Everybody knows the only real music is New Age.

/Everyone's music sucks.
//Kanye West's most of all.


I don't think I could be this old man if I tried.  Bravo sir.

No kid wants to hear a boring vocal/guitar/bass/drum setup band like their parents were listening to 20 years ago.  And what kids like is cool because kids are idiots and spend all their money on music.

We did a lot with the guitar.  It was UBIQUITOUS.  You couldn't have a "rock band" without a guitar, it was unthinkable.  The fact that other non-guitar based bands can now become popular does not mean the guitar is dead anymore than white people are extinct due to more minorities.  Get over it, and stop worrying that the sky is falling and young people like something different (mostly for different's sake!)
 
2013-05-04 12:47:42 PM  
Don't worry, last time it happened DGC Records invented grunge
 
2013-05-04 12:58:46 PM  
lepton68:
www.real.gr

Weaksauce^

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2013-05-04 02:20:37 PM  
That was as retarded as anything else you will read in that crap publication.

Thanks for the laugh.
 
2013-05-04 02:22:29 PM  
I will say this, I live in a top-50 radio market and we have no modern rock radio station. Zero. Nada.

We have a classic rock station that will play older Nirvana and Pearl Jam songs, but nothing new. We also have 2-3 pop stations and 3-4 country stations.

I listen to Octane on XM when I'm in my GF's truck, I hardly recognize the names of the bands.

Ugh.
 
2013-05-04 02:42:19 PM  

Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.


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2013-05-04 02:49:48 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

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Sorry you band sucked.

/off to play
 
2013-05-04 02:53:16 PM  

SilentStrider: lepton68: [www.real.gr image 400x300]

Is that Orianthi? Man, she can farkig SHRED like no one's business.


Yeah she can. Best female guiraist I've seen since the late April Lawton.
 
2013-05-04 03:03:05 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Two words.
Frank
Marino

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw_MEs0xOAg


I love me some Mahogany Rush. "Sister Change" is one of my faves.
 
2013-05-04 03:14:26 PM  

kab: John McLaughlin, for example, is a pretty big influence to folks who are considered "good" today, and it's more than likely that all of his career has flown under the radar of popularity.


Saw McLaughlin(playing with Chick Corea) once on the old Don Kirshner's Rock Concert and got hooked on his music. We didn't hear any of that kind of music in my area of the country(still don't) and it was a real eye-opener for me.
 
2013-05-04 04:59:50 PM  

Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

No, guitar rock isn't dead.


Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist.  My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.  Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)
 
2013-05-04 05:38:33 PM  

bhcompy:   Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)


Always felt embarrassed for them when they used those gimmicks. Everyone in the band doesn't have to be the frontman.

I am a keyboardist too, I understand it doesn't have the whole "lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me" factor that lead guitar does. Keyboardists get the smarter girls who are not just wowed by flash and sparkles.
 
2013-05-04 05:46:29 PM  

Dragonflew: bhcompy:   Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)

Always felt embarrassed for them when they used those gimmicks. Everyone in the band doesn't have to be the frontman.

I am a keyboardist too, I understand it doesn't have the whole "lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me" factor that lead guitar does. Keyboardists get the smarter girls who are not just wowed by flash and sparkles.


Same here. Been married to my only groupie for almost 9 years.

True that guitarists got all the tail, except it seems more directed at lead singers these days.
 
2013-05-04 06:37:20 PM  

bhcompy: Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist. My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.


That's not what the keyboardist is for.

They're the pads, not the leads.
 
2013-05-04 06:50:26 PM  

bhcompy: Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

No, guitar rock isn't dead.

Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist.  My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.  Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)


oi43.tinypic.com
Keytar Jesus approves
 
2013-05-04 06:52:04 PM  
Yes. Why?

Because most of the popular icons / top sellers in that genre are around 60 years old, give or take. Yeah, THOSE acts still have followers and bring in the cash, true, but QUICK! name any "guitar rock" act that's anywhere near the top whose performers are under 30.

Yeah, I thought so.
 
2013-05-04 07:04:38 PM  

Ishkur: bhcompy: Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist. My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.

That's not what the keyboardist is for.

They're the pads, not the leads.


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There are lead guitarists and rhythm guitarists...  and sometimes even the rhythm guitarists have solos..

Sonata Arctica does it pretty well..
 
2013-05-04 07:20:35 PM  

bhcompy: There are lead guitarists and rhythm guitarists... and sometimes even the rhythm guitarists have solos..


You're not going to have two keyboardists on stage.
 
2013-05-04 07:25:17 PM  

Ishkur: bhcompy: There are lead guitarists and rhythm guitarists... and sometimes even the rhythm guitarists have solos..

You're not going to have two keyboardists on stage.


Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal
 
2013-05-04 08:44:41 PM  

bhcompy: Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

No, guitar rock isn't dead.

Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist.  My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.  Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)


No.

First of all, I play with BOTH hands, often two manuals/keyboards at once, or I'm manipulating drawbacks, rotary speed, a filter, setting up my next sound, etc. Mostly, though, those things sound awful, and look ridiculously insipid.

Plus, if you play one, you're required by the musicians' union to wear giant, loose white slacks and do the keytar dance - hop, hop, hop, turn, hop, hop, hop, turn - and that's not easy to do while playing Widespread Panic, Allman Brothers, Grateful Dead, Black Crows, etc.
 
2013-05-04 08:45:48 PM  
/drawBARS
//stupid autocorrect
 
2013-05-04 09:09:53 PM  

bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal


Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker is all you need.
 
2013-05-04 09:13:16 PM  
 
2013-05-04 09:18:43 PM  

Ishkur: bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal

Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker is all you need.


naturally..
 
2013-05-04 09:55:58 PM  

Ishkur: bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal

Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker, and a truss is all you need.

U

nsolicited Hammond trivia: If you're playing an outdoor show that runs off a generator, make sure it runs at a constant, exactly 60 cycles, or the organ will out of tune because the tone wheels aren't running at the proper speed.

I went through that problem as a keyboard tech touring with a major (now deceased) keyboard player, and the show almost didn't happen until I finally figured out the problem because the B3 was a signature part of his sound.
That, and a Hohner Clavinet T.
 
2013-05-04 10:19:05 PM  
Village Voice? Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "no, you hipster douchebag".
 
2013-05-04 11:53:18 PM  

TommyymmoT: Ishkur: bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal

Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker, and a truss is all you need.

Unsolicited Hammond trivia: If you're playing an outdoor show that runs off a generator, make sure it runs at a constant, exactly 60 cycles, or the organ will out of tune because the tone wheels aren't running at the proper speed.

I went through that problem as a keyboard tech touring with a major (now deceased) keyboard player, and the show almost didn't happen until I finally figured out the problem because the B3 was a signature part of his sound.
That, and a Hohner Clavinet T.


Sounds like the Mellotron problems some of the early prog bands had when lugging their 'trons to the US the first time.  Voltage stabilizers FTW.
 
2013-05-05 01:32:37 AM  
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2013-05-05 03:13:10 AM  

GypsyJoker: TommyymmoT: Ishkur: bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal

Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker, and a truss is all you need.

Unsolicited Hammond trivia: If you're playing an outdoor show that runs off a generator, make sure it runs at a constant, exactly 60 cycles, or the organ will out of tune because the tone wheels aren't running at the proper speed.

I went through that problem as a keyboard tech touring with a major (now deceased) keyboard player, and the show almost didn't happen until I finally figured out the problem because the B3 was a signature part of his sound.
That, and a Hohner Clavinet T.

Sounds like the Mellotron problems some of the early prog bands had when lugging their 'trons to the US the first time.  Voltage stabilizers FTW.


I used to work for a band called Renaissance back in the late 70s.
When I merely suggested to their keyboard guy at the time, (John Tout) that he should consider a Mellotron, he looked at me like I was insane.

What a nightmare. Racks of spare magnetic tape loops that wore out on a constant basis, and demagnetising  something like 61 tape heads a few times a week.
No thanks.
 
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