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2013-05-03 11:43:22 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: they're really asking if guitar rock is disappearing as a major player in popular music. And that happened like a decade ago.


That was only one of many times that the electric guitar was moved to the margins of popular music. It goes in cycles.
 
2013-05-03 11:43:36 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: uncleacid: I think harps will be the next big thing.

The ukulele would beg to differ.


Don't know if this has been posted yet...

Ukulele weeps by Jake Shimabukuro
 
2013-05-03 11:45:27 PM
When The Beatles first tried to find a record label in the US, one of the first record executives they applied to rejected them because he thought that guitar rock was dying in 1963.

Whomever that idiot was, I'll bet his bosses rewarded him for letting such a gold mine slip away by reassigning him to holding towels in the mens room.
 
2013-05-03 11:46:35 PM
Nope. there are good new rock bands all the time, just dont expect to hear them on the radio. Thats fine with me though.


media.metropulse.com
 
2013-05-03 11:46:42 PM

red5ish: Glockenspiel Hero: Then again, I can't find anything there worth listening to at all.

I've been listening to a lot of soukous music. The guitarists are impressive.


Just had a bit of a listen on YouTube. Reminds me a lot of Latin Bachata music, which my wife loves. Might let her give it a try.
 
2013-05-03 11:48:00 PM
Something cool I found literally a few minutes ago.  It's rare for me to fall in love at first listen but I think I have.  Last thing I expected from a one man band from the Middle East.  For the prog fans that have been in this thread.

http://badernana.bandcamp.com/album/anthology
 
2013-05-03 11:59:13 PM
Every time I wonder how far the guitar can be taken I check in on what Steve Vai has been up to and I get my answer.

No, guitar rock is not dead.

However modern "rock" is just mostly terrible and cliche so it's looking for anything to try and differentiate itself, ya know, other than being "good."
 
2013-05-04 12:05:22 AM

Snapper Carr: /of course it's not dying. As long as teenage boys realize that the females of their peer group are more willing to have sex with them if they play for them, the guitar will survive.


THIS.
 
2013-05-04 12:08:02 AM
Can we all just admit we're old, go home and watch Yo Gabba Gabba with our stepkids?
 
2013-05-04 12:24:24 AM
Disagrees:
img.photobucket.com
 
kab
2013-05-04 12:40:15 AM
Guitar isn't going anywhere.   Don't be silly.

Next question.
 
kab
2013-05-04 12:42:04 AM

MrVeach: As long as there are white people, no


bravewords-public.s3.amazonaws.com

right.
 
2013-05-04 12:44:01 AM

Snapper Carr: As long as teenage boys realize that the females of their peer group are more willing to have sex with them if they play for them, the guitar will survive.


A few won't make it
 
2013-05-04 12:45:50 AM

Lsherm: Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.

It's not like the old days when pretty much everything you heard, everything anyone played, all had guitars at the core.

He's old school, but Prince can rock a pretty mean guitar, and he's mainstream.  Or he was.

I really wish they'd bring back the guitar solo, but music producers have apparently decided that it interrupts the song, or something.



There are still some younger people out there writing and performing songs with strong guitar solos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5amp5OPOSTg">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=5amp5OPOSTg
 
2013-05-04 12:48:21 AM
prince is a helluva guitar player.
 
kab
2013-05-04 12:52:25 AM

Glockenspiel Hero: /Yeah, I like prog.


Do you?

Buy this, you won't be sorry:

echoesanddust.com

/album happens to have a rather incredible guitarist on it as well, so it fits this thread nicely.
//Guthrie rocks
 
kab
2013-05-04 12:59:28 AM

Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.


Not sure I agree with this at all.  Musical influence rarely has much to do with popularity, though the two can indeed coincide.  John McLaughlin, for example, is a pretty big influence to folks who are considered "good" today, and it's more than likely that all of his career has flown under the radar of popularity.

And relevance in music is a pointless topic to begin with.
 
2013-05-04 01:06:23 AM

Lsherm: Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.

It's not like the old days when pretty much everything you heard, everything anyone played, all had guitars at the core.

He's old school, but Prince can rock a pretty mean guitar, and he's mainstream.  Or he was.

I really wish they'd bring back the guitar solo, but music producers have apparently decided that it interrupts the song, or something.


I still have my first Prince single I bought in 45.

EM is the new craze amongst the youngsters now a days. I think it lends itself to MP3 distribution.
 
2013-05-04 01:07:21 AM

Ebenator: Disagrees: overrated
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FTFY
 
2013-05-04 01:13:40 AM
No.
 
2013-05-04 01:17:55 AM

fusillade762: Two of my favorite current shredders:

[blog.zap2it.com image 555x369]

[i41.tinypic.com image 800x534]


I prefer this one:
www.thetechnodrome.com
 
2013-05-04 01:32:49 AM
I farkin hope not.
 
2013-05-04 01:52:30 AM
NOT IN MY HOUSE M'FERS!

*strums G-C9 on an acoustic 6 loaded with .010 strings and a .73 mm Dunlop pick to open up some Skid M'fn Row.*

shiat yeah. Friday night!

:/ not kidding
 
2013-05-04 01:52:33 AM

AntiQ: There are still some younger people out there writing and performing songs with strong guitar solos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5amp5OPOSTg">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=5amp5OPOSTg


She's great, but all of that was self-indulgent.  I was talking about songs with strong guitar solos, not ten minute jam sessions.  That's the only thing that's going to bring solos back.
 
2013-05-04 02:02:26 AM

MrVeach: As long as there are white people, no

www.freeinfosociety.com


I took a scan of all these obscure bands that people have mentioned in this thread and I will bet that Tom Morello can out-play all of them. Tom needs to get out of the purgatory that is RATM ASAP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yjlpPQ-UYU

Skip to 2:40.
 
2013-05-04 02:03:12 AM
Whenever I turn on the modern rock station, it's just generic meh riffs. Nothing memorable.
What happened to all the great riff makers of the 60's 70's and 80's? Has the knowledge not been passed down?
 
2013-05-04 02:13:12 AM
old school mainstream rock music is kind of in a weird place.  it's too "heavy" for most mainstream audiences who like pop music, but many actual rock fans typically lean toward the heavy metal side, so plain rock bands are too much like pop.  personally i love hard rock and heavy metal, but i can't listen to mainstream rock acts like the black keys because the music is just boring to me.

but the guitar as an instrument is still very much alive, just not in popular music at the moment.  i think that the guitar is even more vital to metal music now than it was back in the 80s when thrash was evolving and hair metal was at its peak.
 
2013-05-04 02:27:37 AM

kab: Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.

Not sure I agree with this at all.  Musical influence rarely has much to do with popularity, though the two can indeed coincide.  John McLaughlin, for example, is a pretty big influence to folks who are considered "good" today, and it's more than likely that all of his career has flown under the radar of popularity.

And relevance in music is a pointless topic to begin with.



www.nationnotes.us
newsbusters.org
crooksandliars.com
 
2013-05-04 02:45:59 AM
This article was retarded, if you can only think of guitar rock bands, one you're pigeonholing, and two, you have no business being a music critic, as you're obviously ignorant. Especially that line about hardcore musicians being able to play their instruments, isn't that a little too generalized? It's insulting.
 
2013-05-04 02:47:49 AM
Heavy Metal is angry, childish noise for adolescent boys and men who are hanging onto their youth.

Pop is mechanically-separated, sugar-coated piss in the ears of the mundane audience that adores it.

Hip-Hop is stolen rock and electronica licks with incredibly dumb, marble-mouthed idiots shouting vain obscenities over it.

Dubstep is the noise a synthesizer makes when you beat it with a rock and then flip the arpeggio on "auto loop" for fifteen minutes.

Country is steel guitars and drums playing the same blues riff while a redneck whines about his dog, girl, truck, or politics.

Acid Jazz is what happens when you throw a jazz band into a meat grinder connected to an amp.

Blues is one song with different words.

J-Pop is one song with different-but-similar words.

Modern R&B is the auto-tuned advertising jingle for the town harlot.

Classical is old white guys playing scales on ancient instruments for three hours.

Everybody knows the only real music is New Age.

/Everyone's music sucks.
//Kanye West's most of all.
 
2013-05-04 02:56:07 AM
Watching Mia Dyson as I read this.  The answer is no, it is just getting more affordable to see in small clubs.
ustralian.com
 
2013-05-04 02:57:00 AM
Everything is impermanent.
 
2013-05-04 03:07:10 AM

ZeroCorpse: Heavy Metal is angry, childish noise for adolescent boys and men who are hanging onto their youth.

Pop is mechanically-separated, sugar-coated piss in the ears of the mundane audience that adores it.

Hip-Hop is stolen rock and electronica licks with incredibly dumb, marble-mouthed idiots shouting vain obscenities over it.

Dubstep is the noise a synthesizer makes when you beat it with a rock and then flip the arpeggio on "auto loop" for fifteen minutes.

Country is steel guitars and drums playing the same blues riff while a redneck whines about his dog, girl, truck, or politics.

Acid Jazz is what happens when you throw a jazz band into a meat grinder connected to an amp.

Blues is one song with different words.

J-Pop is one song with different-but-similar words.

Modern R&B is the auto-tuned advertising jingle for the town harlot.

Classical is old white guys playing scales on ancient instruments for three hours.

Everybody knows the only real music is New Age.

/Everyone's music sucks.
//Kanye West's most of all.


I noticed you left out Bluegrass

/ it's not country
 
2013-05-04 03:23:47 AM
What the death of guitar rock may sound like:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-nf9O3l5Us

/not really though
//they actually have some pretty good stuff
 
2013-05-04 03:55:31 AM
For everyone wondering where good rock guitar has gone, I suggest picking up a copy, or even subscribing to, Classic Rock magazine. It's British, and therefore more expensive, but you can also get it on the iPad cheaper through iTunes. It is the most well written, thorough rock magazine in the world. They review many rock albums every month by new and established artists and report on some of the most obscure stories. Hell, they even had a short piece a couple of years ago about the death of one member of Point Blank, a Houston band that had a minor hit in the 80's. It wasn't even mentioned here in Houston. Get it, you won't be sorry.
 
2013-05-04 04:24:45 AM
Manny s people have forgotten the tradition of the independent guitar store. Musicians once had to have a row every time they were looking for an instrument. Now for the ate street is nearly baren. It's sad watching all tat turn to ash before your very eyes. Guitars were once everywhere like a Colony surrounded by the brill iant building of tin pans alley. Now it's rude e alone to sell the axis. The rocker has only one old stairway left  to what was Once his or her idea of heaven. It would be cool if someone understood that lost tradition. I bet if someone were to put in enough effort you could even do an show with just one old, broken, bass ic guitar that was so beloved even to most famous payers in the world (or any baas playing maniac) would literally wait on line on stage for a turn to play. no fretting just fend her jazz with the kind of cones and ten inches aluminum that show quite clearly the doom we all face but you cant just see thru a window anymore. Even the harmonie are artificial. the cabinet are missing now. It would ould be cool if that kind of show happened.
 
2013-05-04 06:32:39 AM
Probably not, but hard rock is no where to be seen in mainstream alternative and rock, indie folk hipster people run the genre right now.
 
2013-05-04 07:16:48 AM
I know when I'm looking for an informed opinion regarding "guitar rock", the first venue I think of is "The Village Voice".

Yup.

/Nope.
 
2013-05-04 07:48:11 AM

ZeroCorpse: Acid Jazz is what happens when you throw a jazz band into a meat grinder connected to an amp.


Psychedelic jazz?
 
2013-05-04 08:01:14 AM
Stephen Egerton would like to have a word.
 
2013-05-04 08:06:40 AM
most rock guitarists play like they're masturbating out loud.
 
2013-05-04 08:30:15 AM
Drive by Truckers say "Aw, hell naw!"

Mobile no linky check "marry me", "sink hole", etc.

Also Magnolia Electric Co/Songs:Ohia (RIP Jason Molina)
 
2013-05-04 08:55:18 AM
It's not dead, it's just gone fishing with Les Claypool.
 
2013-05-04 09:08:40 AM
Wyld Stallyons!
 
2013-05-04 09:40:15 AM
Not if these guys have anything to say about it.

i662.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-04 09:47:48 AM
"We were playing with a band that was mostly backing tracks," says Wells, describing a recent show. "The singer was, like, break-dancing on stage,"

Thats where I, like, stopped reading.
 
2013-05-04 09:51:25 AM

pacmanner: Not if these guys have anything to say about it.

[i662.photobucket.com image 720x479]


That's kinda the  point: That picture could have been taken anytime in the last 20 years. I'd guess the band sounds like most other similar looking bands from the last 20 years.
 
2013-05-04 10:12:29 AM

TheGhostofFarkPast: No not at all-

[www.chicagonow.com image 500x500]
One of the most under rated bands in existence. "Pack up the Cats" was a great album that got no love in the 90's and "here comes the zoo" is a masterpiece.


are you a high fivin' mother farker?
 
2013-05-04 10:18:35 AM

Fallout Boy: MrVeach: As long as there are white people, no

[www.freeinfosociety.com image 300x317]

I took a scan of all these obscure bands that people have mentioned in this thread and I will bet that Tom Morello can out-play all of them. Tom needs to get out of the purgatory that is RATM ASAP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yjlpPQ-UYU

Skip to 2:40.



Good God, Cornell is abysmal.  He really can't sing.

And per usual, you can't really tell about Morello's playing because it's mired in effects.
 
2013-05-04 10:20:37 AM
I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

No, guitar rock isn't dead.
 
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