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2013-05-03 05:20:20 PM
Maybe, but it'll never die! \m/  \m/
 
2013-05-03 05:38:52 PM
ask the black keys. ask jack white. ask mumford and sons. ask jake bugg.
 
2013-05-03 06:23:29 PM
Ty Segall is alright musically I guess, but they're pretty boring live and it's not like they're virtuosos by any means.  The problem is that none of these bands have any sense of showmanship and everything they are playing is derivative.  90% of guitar bands since 1960 has just been the same E and A form barre chords being played in the same 10 positions.  I know there are a limited amount of notes and everything, but how hard is it to work a few extra riffs in there?  I can count on one hand the amount of legit guitar solos I have heard in an indie rock song and I like indie rock.

I know the "everything sounds the same" line is a little overdone, but guitar is such a great hobby it's literally offensive to me to see people not try to get better at it.  Also, a lot of these bands would be 100x better with a good frontman/frontwoman.  Singers with no formal training that half ass playing guitar and don't move around (or having a guitar slung around backwards while they stand there and almost never play it) is clearly not the way to go.
 
2013-05-03 06:41:16 PM
Hey hey
My my
Rock and roll will never die.
 
2013-05-03 07:44:16 PM
Wow, article mentions Hawkwind.  All y'all that like spacey guitar rock need to head to tower recordsthe pirate bay and get yourself some Space Ritual.  Not Space Ritual 2 mind you, the original circa '74'ish.
 
2013-05-03 07:50:30 PM
www.real.gr
 
2013-05-03 07:51:51 PM

lepton68: [www.real.gr image 400x300]


Is that Orianthi? Man, she can farkig SHRED like no one's business.
 
2013-05-03 07:53:17 PM
The only musical genre I listen to is whatever iCarly plays.
 
2013-05-03 07:54:04 PM
Guitar rock was bit by a spider.
 
2013-05-03 07:55:39 PM
Little Steven's Underground Garage.

^The only answer the headline question needs.
 
2013-05-03 07:58:45 PM
Freedom rock definitely isn't.  Turn it up, man!
 
2013-05-03 08:05:31 PM
i536.photobucket.com
Scott says,
"Hell no ya farkin' hippies!!!"

Hey Austin Farkers, see you at Red 7 tomorrow night to see some superior "guitar rock"
 
2013-05-03 08:06:33 PM
As long as there are white people, no
 
2013-05-03 08:08:34 PM
1^]01. half a mind to double up baby
 
2013-05-03 08:11:44 PM
I don't think so. The electric guitar has so many sonic possibilities, and there are always going to be people that find cool and interesting things to do with it. It's just that right now too many people that pick up the guitar either don't bother to really learn to play, or lack the imagination to play anything other than the same stale, tired Page/Clapton/Hendrix/SRV licks with the same gear.
 
2013-05-03 08:14:50 PM

FlashHarry: ask the black keys. ask jack white. ask mumford and sons. ask jake bugg.


Good points.  But while it's not dying, it is declining in popularity.
 
2013-05-03 08:16:22 PM
I've always said this rocking and rolling music was just a fad
 
2013-05-03 08:20:28 PM
Popular music has been on the wane since 1974, the year of the first Bad Company release.

You see, poor live performances by the likes of Chuck Berry and even Jerry Lee Lewis are destroying the music they allege to celebrate. And tests show that a Beach Boys concert is a very sad thing. This, coupled with the growing interest in ethnic music, has undermined the support base of the music that you and your friends love.
 
2013-05-03 08:21:42 PM

SilentStrider: lepton68: [www.real.gr image 400x300]

Is that Orianthi? Man, she can farkig SHRED like no one's business.


THIS.
 
2013-05-03 08:23:08 PM
It's going the way of the 20 minute drum solo...
 
2013-05-03 08:25:22 PM
I think harps will be the next big thing.
 
2013-05-03 08:25:25 PM
stereogum.com
 
2013-05-03 08:27:48 PM
Its appeal is becoming more selective.
 
2013-05-03 08:29:15 PM

SilentStrider: lepton68: [www.real.gr image 400x300]

Is that Orianthi? Man, she can farkig SHRED like no one's business.


This is what killed rock guitar, for better or worse. Playing scales really fast is a skill, bit at the end if the day it gets boring.
 
2013-05-03 08:30:32 PM

uncleacid: I think harps will be the next big thing.


The ukulele would beg to differ.
 
2013-05-03 08:33:16 PM
 
2013-05-03 08:34:57 PM
I feel like this article and its title are really misleading. They're making it sound like guitar rock is disappearing completely (it's not) when they're really asking if guitar rock is disappearing as a major player in popular music. And that happened like a decade ago.

There are a ton of great guitar rock bands out there: Cloud Nothings, Japandroids, Wild Flag, Screaming Females, Clutch, The Men, The Thermals, Titus Andronicus etc etc.
 
2013-05-03 08:38:02 PM
www.asiavips.com
 
2013-05-03 08:41:05 PM
Time to break out the lost Page riff.
 
2013-05-03 08:41:28 PM
Short answer:no
Long answer:noooooooooooooooooooooooo

Will it undergo a decline in importance and relevance as the world moves on,and the musical tastes of people all over the world fragment and Balkanize?
Sure,so? It's all cyclical anyway.
 
2013-05-03 08:43:20 PM
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation was created on April 20, 1983, officially heralding the demise of Rock and Roll. Hey hey my my.
 
2013-05-03 08:44:01 PM
Every generation finds its own heroes.

Don't ever foster the delusion that your children should like the things that you like.
 
2013-05-03 08:45:39 PM
Article was ridiculous, obviously written by an ignorant hipster.
 
2013-05-03 08:46:30 PM
Real music died with Ethel Merman.
 
2013-05-03 08:49:17 PM

BrotherKalashnikov: Short answer:no
Long answer:noooooooooooooooooooooooo

Will it undergo a decline in importance and relevance as the world moves on,and the musical tastes of people all over the world fragment and Balkanize?
Sure,so? It's all cyclical anyway.


How can you compete with dancing middle-aged Punjabis?

i2.ytimg.com

/It's got a good beat, I can't dance to it.
/pinkish hue
 
2013-05-03 08:51:35 PM
And I bet in the late 60s music journalists were complaining that Big Band music was no longer popular.
 
2013-05-03 08:54:35 PM
The Coursera "Intro to Guitar" course just started Monday, so I'm getting a real kick out of this thread.

Wait. Does this mean there's room out there for a sad song or two lamenting the death of guitar rock?
 
2013-05-03 08:55:46 PM

MFAWG: SilentStrider: lepton68: [www.real.gr image 400x300]

Is that Orianthi? Man, she can farkig SHRED like no one's business.

This is what killed rock guitar, for better or worse. Playing scales really fast is a skill, bit at the end if the day it gets boring.


As someone who loves guitar rock, THIS.  Grunge, Rap, Hip-Hop and what have you did NOT kill guitar rock.  Guitar Rock killed itself. Hair band overload became bland, predictable formulaic garbage.  Winger, Poison, Cinderella... just nails in the coffin.  As least Def Leppard was original when they did it.  After a while, though, everything sounded the same, more or less.  *sigh*

Get the fark off my lawn.

\Please note that I did not say these bands sucked - my opinion is mute on that.  They are very good technicians.  Just uninspired.  I still love guitar rock, but good God man, stop with the copy/paste.
 
2013-05-03 09:01:45 PM
No. People ask the same question once a decade.
 
2013-05-03 09:02:22 PM
Such is the problem of shredding. Bands who really shred -- not punk or hardcore bands who can barely play their instruments, not bands who incorporate guitars into larger clouds of musical emotion, but bands who've made their name with guitar-based pop(ish) music and really farking shred -- are increasingly finding themselves at the margins of musical culture.

Meh, maybe in the US.  Metal, with shredding guitars everywhere, is alive and well in Japan and Europe, with China also having a growing metal market.
 
2013-05-03 09:04:14 PM

uncleacid: I think harps will be the next big thing.


If that means I have to listen to more Joanna Newsom, I am giving up music.
 
2013-05-03 09:06:51 PM
 
2013-05-03 09:07:57 PM
Less popular? Yes.

Dying? No.

Getting better? All the time.

/Parquet Courts
//Thee Oh Sees
 
2013-05-03 09:10:30 PM
Every generation goes through a period of time when they are sure that history will end with them.

This too shall pass.
 
2013-05-03 09:11:40 PM

somemoron: As someone who loves guitar rock, THIS. Grunge, Rap, Hip-Hop and what have you did NOT kill guitar rock. Guitar Rock killed itself. Hair band overload became bland, predictable formulaic garbage. Winger, Poison, Cinderella... just nails in the coffin. As least Def Leppard was original when they did it. After a while, though, everything sounded the same, more or less. *sigh*

Get the fark off my lawn.

\Please note that I did not say these bands sucked - my opinion is mute on that. They are very good technicians. Just uninspired. I still love guitar rock, but good God man, stop with the copy/paste


You can't kill The Metal.
 
2013-05-03 09:30:30 PM

somemoron: MFAWG: SilentStrider: lepton68: [www.real.gr image 400x300]

Is that Orianthi? Man, she can farkig SHRED like no one's business.

This is what killed rock guitar, for better or worse. Playing scales really fast is a skill, bit at the end if the day it gets boring.

As someone who loves guitar rock, THIS.  Grunge, Rap, Hip-Hop and what have you did NOT kill guitar rock.  Guitar Rock killed itself. Hair band overload became bland, predictable formulaic garbage.  Winger, Poison, Cinderella... just nails in the coffin.  As least Def Leppard was original when they did it.  After a while, though, everything sounded the same, more or less.  *sigh*

Get the fark off my lawn.

\Please note that I did not say these bands sucked - my opinion is mute on that.  They are very good technicians.  Just uninspired.  I still love guitar rock, but good God man, stop with the copy/paste.


I'll give you 2 of those.
Rethink Cinderella though. They were a highlight in that mess.  Not perfect, but, better than a lot of what was out there.
Also, Tesla was a throwback band who just happened to hit at the time. Much different sounding than the rack-effect sound that was prevalent at the time.
 
2013-05-03 09:30:59 PM

Snotnose: Wow, article mentions Hawkwind.  All y'all that like spacey guitar rock need to head to tower recordsthe pirate bay and get yourself some Space Ritual.  Not Space Ritual 2 mind you, the original circa '74'ish.


I still like Explosions in the Sky.  Great music to chill out to.
 
2013-05-03 09:31:39 PM
I predict the zither will become the backbone of the next musical revolution.
img838.imageshack.us
 
2013-05-03 09:35:19 PM
Two of my favorite current shredders:

blog.zap2it.com

i41.tinypic.com

Plus Ritzy is just adorable.
g.purevolumecdn.com
 
2013-05-03 09:37:01 PM
It's over. You got here just in time for the death rattle, the last gasp, the last grope.

/obscure?
 
2013-05-03 09:39:16 PM

red5ish: I predict the zither will become the backbone of the next musical revolution.
[img838.imageshack.us image 600x596]


Wrong.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-03 09:40:37 PM

xanadian: It's over. You got here just in time for the death rattle, the last gasp, the last grope.

/obscure?


Nah, HBO has been showing that 5 times a week for the last 3 years.
 
2013-05-03 09:41:27 PM
I listen to AltNation on SiriusXM, also XMU and it really seems that a lot of "alternative rock" is getting mixed with a lot of electronica and even pop. I find it amusing that Foster the People is considered alternative.

Satellite radio is still perplexing to me. Channels that play, for example, older Ben Folds Five, but have never played anything off the new CD. An artist like Amanda Palmer and the GTO isn't played anywhere, even though you'd think they'd be seriously alternative and definitely something to be played on the XMU channel.
 
2013-05-03 09:45:35 PM
Short answer: no.

Long answer, it goes in cycles, it'll be back, it always comes back.
 
2013-05-03 09:48:54 PM

TommyymmoT: red5ish: I predict the zither will become the backbone of the next musical revolution.
[img838.imageshack.us image 600x596]

Wrong.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 340x309]


imageshack.us
I thought I'd never get to use this again.
 
2013-05-03 09:49:20 PM
Yes, guitar rock is dying.  Why, I can't find a single guitar rock album in the "Top 40" list on Rolling Stone.

Then again, I can't find anything there worth listening to at all.  I haven't turned on a radio station in 5 years- there's nothing there worth listening to either.

But I have the Internet, and I find new bands every single freaking day.  I'm listening to a Polish progressive metal band right now for the first time (Animations) and they blow the doors off of anything I've heard lately.  There are amazing musicians in every genre you would care to hear available whenever you want.  You don't need to listen to RS, or Village Voice, or anyone at all, and so long as there are people picking up the instrument it's not going anywhere

/Yeah, I like prog.  Bite me
 
2013-05-03 09:49:21 PM
Yo La Tengo
Tame Impala
Unknown Mortal Orchestra
Stephen Malkmus
et. al...

Don't these articles pop up every other year or so?
 
2013-05-03 09:53:07 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Then again, I can't find anything there worth listening to at all.


I've been listening to a lot of soukous music. The guitarists are impressive.
 
2013-05-03 09:57:32 PM

xanadian: It's over. You got here just in time for the death rattle, the last gasp, the last grope.

/obscure?


Almost have it, just on the tip of my tongue, Forget it And Maybe OUr fellow farkerS will chime in.
 
2013-05-03 09:59:05 PM
When I think of "guitar rock" I think of really terrible bands like Pearl Jam, STP, Nickelback and that whole crop of terrible pop groups from the late 90s like Seven Mary Three or that band that did that Cumbersome song.

So no, I don't think bland guitar-driven "rock" is going away any time soon as long as there are ball caps to rock backwards, lite beer to chug and WOOOOOOS to WOOOOOOOO!

Conversely, I think that bands have gotten better at writing music that uses guitars. So it's an even tradeoff- the pendulum of ROCK! swings back and forth. That's what rock pendulums do.
 
2013-05-03 09:59:35 PM
It depends on what you are doing with the guitar.
 
2013-05-03 10:01:18 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Yes, guitar rock is dying.  Why, I can't find a single guitar rock album in the "Top 40" list on Rolling Stone.

Then again, I can't find anything there worth listening to at all.  I haven't turned on a radio station in 5 years- there's nothing there worth listening to either.

But I have the Internet, and I find new bands every single freaking day.  I'm listening to a Polish progressive metal band right now for the first time (Animations) and they blow the doors off of anything I've heard lately.  There are amazing musicians in every genre you would care to hear available whenever you want.  You don't need to listen to RS, or Village Voice, or anyone at all, and so long as there are people picking up the instrument it's not going anywhere

/Yeah, I like prog.  Bite me



Interesting. I can't wait to get home and listen to this. I love Riverside and Lunatic Soul. If this compares in any way, I'll be happy.

Listening to Agalloch right now (Into the Painted Gray).
 
2013-05-03 10:06:31 PM
Btw:
Wooden Shjips
Moon Duo
Alcest
Black Rebel Motocycle Club
Dead Meadow
Katatonia
Opeth
Leprous
My Dying Bride
OSI
Porcupine Tree / Steven Wilson / Blackfield
The Sword
Riverside
......all guitar-driven and (for the most part) accessible to most listeners
 
2013-05-03 10:08:53 PM
as much as i love chuck berry he really did kill the piano and saxophone in rock and roll
 
2013-05-03 10:10:24 PM

EdenLiesObscured: Interesting. I can't wait to get home and listen to this. I love Riverside and Lunatic Soul. If this compares in any way, I'll be happy.

Listening to Agalloch right now (Into the Painted Gray).


Personally, they sound a lot like Liquid Tension Experiment to me.

/Off to practice guitar and listen to some more soukous music.  (Didn't even know the genre before 20 minutes ago and it's a great change of pace)
 
2013-05-03 10:12:57 PM

Dutch Pilsner: Don't these articles pop up every other year or so?


This x 100.

Shows I've seen lately or am seeing soon:

Tame Impala
Mudhoney
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
Black Angels
Black Moth Super Rainbow
Bad Brains
Yo La Tengo (maybe)

Only one of these falls into the "not guitar rock" category.

Boring lazy journalism. Just how much attention did Slayer get yesterday?  Anyone?  Bueller?
 
2013-05-03 10:14:28 PM
By the way, Ty Segall (aka Busiest Man in Rock and Roll) has another new band called Fuzz that, if the two singles are any proof, will have an album out soon that will melt everyone's faces off.  He is awesome.
 
2013-05-03 10:15:19 PM
Good.
 
2013-05-03 10:17:35 PM
Americana is picking up pretty well in the south east. People around here are starting to refocus on local rock. Good stuff, not quite the same as the 80s-90s guitar solo stuff, but definitely still guitar rock.

/Muscle Shoals
 
2013-05-03 10:20:08 PM

Solid State Vittles: Dutch Pilsner: Don't these articles pop up every other year or so?

This x 100.

Shows I've seen lately or am seeing soon:

Tame Impala
Mudhoney
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
Black Angels
Black Moth Super Rainbow
Bad Brains
Yo La Tengo (maybe)

Only one of these falls into the "not guitar rock" category.

Boring lazy journalism. Just how much attention did Slayer get yesterday?  Anyone?  Bueller?


There's an awful lot of "black" in there. But definitely worthy bands.
I'm seeing Slayer news on every major site, front page, near the headlines.
 
2013-05-03 10:20:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YzZjH6gfbc

The old ways can still be new again.  Delta blues metal.

Ignore the tatted up hot mess in front, she was only slightly distracting for me.
 
2013-05-03 10:21:45 PM
That article would have got a C- as a grade 9 high school essay.
 
2013-05-03 10:21:52 PM
www.billboard.com

literally
 
2013-05-03 10:22:00 PM

EdenLiesObscured: There's an awful lot of "black" in there. But definitely worthy bands.


I bought tickets to all three Black bands at the same time at the Fillmore box office.  Lady behind the glass was amused.
 
2013-05-03 10:23:24 PM
No not at all-

www.chicagonow.com
One of the most under rated bands in existence. "Pack up the Cats" was a great album that got no love in the 90's and "here comes the zoo" is a masterpiece.
 
2013-05-03 10:24:08 PM

EdenLiesObscured: I'm seeing Slayer news on every major site, front page, near the headlines.


And, yeah, I guess that's the whole point.  I don't think that you'd see the same attention if someone from Stereolab died.  Rock is still very big.
 
2013-05-03 10:34:09 PM
I sold guitars for 11 years. The state of the guitar music drives guitar sales and over the last 5 or so years it got worse and worse. Guitar Hero and Rock Band sort of propped it up for a few years, but kids found out quickly that the game was a lot easier to learn than actually fretting a guitar.

The interest in learning guitar is as low as it's been in a LONG time and that alone will affect the musical outcome for a long time.
 
2013-05-03 10:35:50 PM
Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.

It's not like the old days when pretty much everything you heard, everything anyone played, all had guitars at the core.
 
2013-05-03 10:37:36 PM

CigaretteSmokingMan: [www.asiavips.com image 414x549]


 "guitar groups are on the way out" said the Decca executive in regard to the Beatles.
 
2013-05-03 10:42:52 PM

Birnone: The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.


I'm not sure if I'd call them an obscure niche act...

Birnone: It's not like the old days when pretty much everything you heard, everything anyone played, all had guitars at the core.


...but this point is well taken.  That said, I would like to mention that the synth new wave and rap of the 80's was supposedly the death knell for guitar rock at the time according to music experts.  It wasn't
 
2013-05-03 10:46:08 PM

SilentStrider: Hey hey
My my
Rock and roll will never die.


Let your hair down in your eyes
You can make a million dollars

\nothing is obscure on fark
 
2013-05-03 10:47:16 PM

Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.

It's not like the old days when pretty much everything you heard, everything anyone played, all had guitars at the core.


He's old school, but Prince can rock a pretty mean guitar, and he's mainstream.  Or he was.

I really wish they'd bring back the guitar solo, but music producers have apparently decided that it interrupts the song, or something.
 
2013-05-03 10:52:27 PM

GypsyJoker: Its appeal is becoming more selective.


Except in Boston; it's not a big college town.
 
2013-05-03 10:52:55 PM
Omahawg: as much as i love chuck berry he really did kill the piano and saxophone in rock and roll

Johnnie Johnson [RIP] would disagree with you. He wrote and/or arranged, and played on - even though uncredited - most of Chuck's greatest stuff in the late 50s onward. On the piano. As Chuck's main sideman. And when Johnnie left, the hits stopped coming.

/not to take anything away from Chuck. He was a showman and that country boy could play guitar. But you got to give Johnnie his proper due.
/Little Richard and Jerry Lee would also like to have a word with you.
 
2013-05-03 10:55:10 PM
Last great guitar album was Climbing by Mountain, 1970
 
2013-05-03 10:58:39 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Maybe, but it'll never die! \m/  \m/


\m/  |||^||| \m/

/whippin what lil hair I got
 
2013-05-03 11:04:04 PM
Just think, people used to sit through long classic rock songs when they were on the radio.

A young band may have already written the next Stairway or Free Bird and may be on YouTube right now...but once the average person hears it has a 30 second musical intro; "Ain't nobody got time for that!"
 
2013-05-03 11:05:23 PM

Top Geezer: Omahawg: as much as i love chuck berry he really did kill the piano and saxophone in rock and roll

Johnnie Johnson [RIP] would disagree with you. He wrote and/or arranged, and played on - even though uncredited - most of Chuck's greatest stuff in the late 50s onward. On the piano. As Chuck's main sideman. And when Johnnie left, the hits stopped coming.

/not to take anything away from Chuck. He was a showman and that country boy could play guitar. But you got to give Johnnie his proper due.
/Little Richard and Jerry Lee would also like to have a word with you.


as well as professor longhair and fats

the fact remains, chuck (and buddy) made rock and roll a gee-tar game and paved the way for such technically brilliant but still soulless travesties as steve vai and what's his name from rush
 
2013-05-03 11:08:23 PM
It's Kraftwerk's fault.
 
2013-05-03 11:14:50 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Yes, guitar rock is dying.  Why, I can't find a single guitar rock album in the "Top 40" list on Rolling Stone.

Then again, I can't find anything there worth listening to at all.  I haven't turned on a radio station in 5 years- there's nothing there worth listening to either.

But I have the Internet, and I find new bands every single freaking day.  I'm listening to a Polish progressive metal band right now for the first time (Animations) and they blow the doors off of anything I've heard lately.  There are amazing musicians in every genre you would care to hear available whenever you want.  You don't need to listen to RS, or Village Voice, or anyone at all, and so long as there are people picking up the instrument it's not going anywhere

/Yeah, I like prog.  Bite me


i too gave up on radio, for well over ten years. there is a possibility you may find some joy on this commercial free volunteer run mixed show format station:
http://www.wfmu.org/
 
2013-05-03 11:18:17 PM
Guitar rock died a long long time ago...

blues.is
 
2013-05-03 11:18:39 PM
Joe Bonamassa shreds.
 
2013-05-03 11:21:51 PM
Clamfight live.

Clamfight sophomore album. It's quickly become my favorite of the year.

And that's even with hearing the new Uncle Acid,
 
2013-05-03 11:22:10 PM

Charlie Freak: I sold guitars for 11 years. The state of the guitar music drives guitar sales and over the last 5 or so years it got worse and worse. Guitar Hero and Rock Band sort of propped it up for a few years, but kids found out quickly that the game was a lot easier to learn than actually fretting a guitar.

The interest in learning guitar is as low as it's been in a LONG time and that alone will affect the musical outcome for a long time.


If it makes you feel any better, I started playing again after a 38 year layoff. New Gretsch solid body because Billy Zoom, that's why.
 
2013-05-03 11:23:06 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: I'm listening to a Polish progressive metal band right now for the first time (Animations) and they blow the doors off of anything I've heard lately.


That's awfully bland stuff. If you want some non-generic instrumental prog metal, check out Blotted Science.
 
2013-05-03 11:25:21 PM
 
2013-05-03 11:32:27 PM
Yes Subby, guitar rock is dying. It's easy to understand why. Let me explain.


Say you have 12 beer....

i.ytimg.com
/of course it's not dying. As long as teenage boys realize that the females of their peer group are more willing to have sex with them if they play for them, the guitar will survive.
 
2013-05-03 11:33:25 PM

Adebisi: Glockenspiel Hero: I'm listening to a Polish progressive metal band right now for the first time (Animations) and they blow the doors off of anything I've heard lately.

That's awfully bland stuff. If you want some non-generic instrumental prog metal, check out Blotted Science.


I actually do listen to them from time to time.  To say one is blander than the other is odd- listen to the progressions and rhythms.  They're quite similar in a lot of cases.  Yes, BS plays a bit faster and with more distortion, but it's clear they're from the same genre.

If I'm looking for real oddball metal, I go listen to Devin Townsend for a while.  He claims to write best when he's off his meds.
 
2013-05-03 11:33:26 PM
Omahawg: as much as i love chuck berry he really did kill the piano and saxophone in rock and roll

Top Geezer: Johnnie Johnson [RIP] would disagree with you. He wrote and/or arranged, and played on - even though uncredited - most of Chuck's greatest stuff in the late 50s onward. On the piano. As Chuck's main sideman. And when Johnnie left, the hits stopped coming.

/not to take anything away from Chuck. He was a showman and that country boy could play guitar. But you got to give Johnnie his proper due.
/Little Richard and Jerry Lee would also like to have a word with you.


Omahawg: as well as professor longhair and fats

the fact remains, chuck (and buddy) made rock and roll a gee-tar game and paved the way for such technically brilliant but still soulless travesties as steve vai and what's his name from rush


Fats & Fess are both dear to me, esp Fess - I have way too many and at the same time not nearly enough records by him. And yeah, I get your point. Hell, Oldham screwed Ian Stewart out of a full position in the Stones which might have mitigated some of Brian/Mick/Ronnie & Keith's "six strings up front" excesses [and don't get me wrong, I loves me some Stones, too]. I can go post-Berry rock piano & sax on ya all night, but you'll be needing to spend your reply time with other concerns as by the time I even finish typing this you're already going to have been flamed by every Rush & Vai farker on here. Good luck, I hope you chose your battle well.

/at the top of my N'awlins pianny wizards is James Booker. Bach & rock, Amen.
//first big concert I ever saw was Rush c.Hemispheres
///and yet I still bought the new Mudhoney record - wanna talk guitar rock?
 
2013-05-03 11:35:20 PM
Is the Obvious tag dying?
 
2013-05-03 11:43:22 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: they're really asking if guitar rock is disappearing as a major player in popular music. And that happened like a decade ago.


That was only one of many times that the electric guitar was moved to the margins of popular music. It goes in cycles.
 
2013-05-03 11:43:36 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: uncleacid: I think harps will be the next big thing.

The ukulele would beg to differ.


Don't know if this has been posted yet...

Ukulele weeps by Jake Shimabukuro
 
2013-05-03 11:45:27 PM
When The Beatles first tried to find a record label in the US, one of the first record executives they applied to rejected them because he thought that guitar rock was dying in 1963.

Whomever that idiot was, I'll bet his bosses rewarded him for letting such a gold mine slip away by reassigning him to holding towels in the mens room.
 
2013-05-03 11:46:35 PM
Nope. there are good new rock bands all the time, just dont expect to hear them on the radio. Thats fine with me though.


media.metropulse.com
 
2013-05-03 11:46:42 PM

red5ish: Glockenspiel Hero: Then again, I can't find anything there worth listening to at all.

I've been listening to a lot of soukous music. The guitarists are impressive.


Just had a bit of a listen on YouTube. Reminds me a lot of Latin Bachata music, which my wife loves. Might let her give it a try.
 
2013-05-03 11:48:00 PM
Something cool I found literally a few minutes ago.  It's rare for me to fall in love at first listen but I think I have.  Last thing I expected from a one man band from the Middle East.  For the prog fans that have been in this thread.

http://badernana.bandcamp.com/album/anthology
 
2013-05-03 11:59:13 PM
Every time I wonder how far the guitar can be taken I check in on what Steve Vai has been up to and I get my answer.

No, guitar rock is not dead.

However modern "rock" is just mostly terrible and cliche so it's looking for anything to try and differentiate itself, ya know, other than being "good."
 
2013-05-04 12:05:22 AM

Snapper Carr: /of course it's not dying. As long as teenage boys realize that the females of their peer group are more willing to have sex with them if they play for them, the guitar will survive.


THIS.
 
2013-05-04 12:08:02 AM
Can we all just admit we're old, go home and watch Yo Gabba Gabba with our stepkids?
 
2013-05-04 12:24:24 AM
Disagrees:
img.photobucket.com
 
kab
2013-05-04 12:40:15 AM
Guitar isn't going anywhere.   Don't be silly.

Next question.
 
kab
2013-05-04 12:42:04 AM

MrVeach: As long as there are white people, no


bravewords-public.s3.amazonaws.com

right.
 
2013-05-04 12:44:01 AM

Snapper Carr: As long as teenage boys realize that the females of their peer group are more willing to have sex with them if they play for them, the guitar will survive.


A few won't make it
 
2013-05-04 12:45:50 AM

Lsherm: Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.

It's not like the old days when pretty much everything you heard, everything anyone played, all had guitars at the core.

He's old school, but Prince can rock a pretty mean guitar, and he's mainstream.  Or he was.

I really wish they'd bring back the guitar solo, but music producers have apparently decided that it interrupts the song, or something.



There are still some younger people out there writing and performing songs with strong guitar solos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5amp5OPOSTg">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=5amp5OPOSTg
 
2013-05-04 12:48:21 AM
prince is a helluva guitar player.
 
kab
2013-05-04 12:52:25 AM

Glockenspiel Hero: /Yeah, I like prog.


Do you?

Buy this, you won't be sorry:

echoesanddust.com

/album happens to have a rather incredible guitarist on it as well, so it fits this thread nicely.
//Guthrie rocks
 
kab
2013-05-04 12:59:28 AM

Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.


Not sure I agree with this at all.  Musical influence rarely has much to do with popularity, though the two can indeed coincide.  John McLaughlin, for example, is a pretty big influence to folks who are considered "good" today, and it's more than likely that all of his career has flown under the radar of popularity.

And relevance in music is a pointless topic to begin with.
 
2013-05-04 01:06:23 AM

Lsherm: Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.

It's not like the old days when pretty much everything you heard, everything anyone played, all had guitars at the core.

He's old school, but Prince can rock a pretty mean guitar, and he's mainstream.  Or he was.

I really wish they'd bring back the guitar solo, but music producers have apparently decided that it interrupts the song, or something.


I still have my first Prince single I bought in 45.

EM is the new craze amongst the youngsters now a days. I think it lends itself to MP3 distribution.
 
2013-05-04 01:07:21 AM

Ebenator: Disagrees: overrated
[img.photobucket.com image 800x572]


FTFY
 
2013-05-04 01:13:40 AM
No.
 
2013-05-04 01:17:55 AM

fusillade762: Two of my favorite current shredders:

[blog.zap2it.com image 555x369]

[i41.tinypic.com image 800x534]


I prefer this one:
www.thetechnodrome.com
 
2013-05-04 01:32:49 AM
I farkin hope not.
 
2013-05-04 01:52:30 AM
NOT IN MY HOUSE M'FERS!

*strums G-C9 on an acoustic 6 loaded with .010 strings and a .73 mm Dunlop pick to open up some Skid M'fn Row.*

shiat yeah. Friday night!

:/ not kidding
 
2013-05-04 01:52:33 AM

AntiQ: There are still some younger people out there writing and performing songs with strong guitar solos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5amp5OPOSTg">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=5amp5OPOSTg


She's great, but all of that was self-indulgent.  I was talking about songs with strong guitar solos, not ten minute jam sessions.  That's the only thing that's going to bring solos back.
 
2013-05-04 02:02:26 AM

MrVeach: As long as there are white people, no

www.freeinfosociety.com


I took a scan of all these obscure bands that people have mentioned in this thread and I will bet that Tom Morello can out-play all of them. Tom needs to get out of the purgatory that is RATM ASAP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yjlpPQ-UYU

Skip to 2:40.
 
2013-05-04 02:03:12 AM
Whenever I turn on the modern rock station, it's just generic meh riffs. Nothing memorable.
What happened to all the great riff makers of the 60's 70's and 80's? Has the knowledge not been passed down?
 
2013-05-04 02:13:12 AM
old school mainstream rock music is kind of in a weird place.  it's too "heavy" for most mainstream audiences who like pop music, but many actual rock fans typically lean toward the heavy metal side, so plain rock bands are too much like pop.  personally i love hard rock and heavy metal, but i can't listen to mainstream rock acts like the black keys because the music is just boring to me.

but the guitar as an instrument is still very much alive, just not in popular music at the moment.  i think that the guitar is even more vital to metal music now than it was back in the 80s when thrash was evolving and hair metal was at its peak.
 
2013-05-04 02:27:37 AM

kab: Birnone: Guitar rock had its time and that time is over.   Popular music, as in music that sells, hasn't been based on guitar performance for a long time now.   The stuff people are pointing to(BRMC and the like) are obscure niche acts in the big picture.

If you were to name the most influential rock guitar players, you'll notice that once you get past Eddie Van Halen the pickings are really slim.   He hit the scene over 30 years ago.  Oh, I'm sure you can name your favorite, and very talented, innovators from the last 15 or 20 years, but they are influencing no one of any relevance.  It's not influential when the only people hearing it and being influenced by it are people within that particular subculture.

Not sure I agree with this at all.  Musical influence rarely has much to do with popularity, though the two can indeed coincide.  John McLaughlin, for example, is a pretty big influence to folks who are considered "good" today, and it's more than likely that all of his career has flown under the radar of popularity.

And relevance in music is a pointless topic to begin with.



www.nationnotes.us
newsbusters.org
crooksandliars.com
 
2013-05-04 02:45:59 AM
This article was retarded, if you can only think of guitar rock bands, one you're pigeonholing, and two, you have no business being a music critic, as you're obviously ignorant. Especially that line about hardcore musicians being able to play their instruments, isn't that a little too generalized? It's insulting.
 
2013-05-04 02:47:49 AM
Heavy Metal is angry, childish noise for adolescent boys and men who are hanging onto their youth.

Pop is mechanically-separated, sugar-coated piss in the ears of the mundane audience that adores it.

Hip-Hop is stolen rock and electronica licks with incredibly dumb, marble-mouthed idiots shouting vain obscenities over it.

Dubstep is the noise a synthesizer makes when you beat it with a rock and then flip the arpeggio on "auto loop" for fifteen minutes.

Country is steel guitars and drums playing the same blues riff while a redneck whines about his dog, girl, truck, or politics.

Acid Jazz is what happens when you throw a jazz band into a meat grinder connected to an amp.

Blues is one song with different words.

J-Pop is one song with different-but-similar words.

Modern R&B is the auto-tuned advertising jingle for the town harlot.

Classical is old white guys playing scales on ancient instruments for three hours.

Everybody knows the only real music is New Age.

/Everyone's music sucks.
//Kanye West's most of all.
 
2013-05-04 02:56:07 AM
Watching Mia Dyson as I read this.  The answer is no, it is just getting more affordable to see in small clubs.
ustralian.com
 
2013-05-04 02:57:00 AM
Everything is impermanent.
 
2013-05-04 03:07:10 AM

ZeroCorpse: Heavy Metal is angry, childish noise for adolescent boys and men who are hanging onto their youth.

Pop is mechanically-separated, sugar-coated piss in the ears of the mundane audience that adores it.

Hip-Hop is stolen rock and electronica licks with incredibly dumb, marble-mouthed idiots shouting vain obscenities over it.

Dubstep is the noise a synthesizer makes when you beat it with a rock and then flip the arpeggio on "auto loop" for fifteen minutes.

Country is steel guitars and drums playing the same blues riff while a redneck whines about his dog, girl, truck, or politics.

Acid Jazz is what happens when you throw a jazz band into a meat grinder connected to an amp.

Blues is one song with different words.

J-Pop is one song with different-but-similar words.

Modern R&B is the auto-tuned advertising jingle for the town harlot.

Classical is old white guys playing scales on ancient instruments for three hours.

Everybody knows the only real music is New Age.

/Everyone's music sucks.
//Kanye West's most of all.


I noticed you left out Bluegrass

/ it's not country
 
2013-05-04 03:23:47 AM
What the death of guitar rock may sound like:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-nf9O3l5Us

/not really though
//they actually have some pretty good stuff
 
2013-05-04 03:55:31 AM
For everyone wondering where good rock guitar has gone, I suggest picking up a copy, or even subscribing to, Classic Rock magazine. It's British, and therefore more expensive, but you can also get it on the iPad cheaper through iTunes. It is the most well written, thorough rock magazine in the world. They review many rock albums every month by new and established artists and report on some of the most obscure stories. Hell, they even had a short piece a couple of years ago about the death of one member of Point Blank, a Houston band that had a minor hit in the 80's. It wasn't even mentioned here in Houston. Get it, you won't be sorry.
 
2013-05-04 04:24:45 AM
Manny s people have forgotten the tradition of the independent guitar store. Musicians once had to have a row every time they were looking for an instrument. Now for the ate street is nearly baren. It's sad watching all tat turn to ash before your very eyes. Guitars were once everywhere like a Colony surrounded by the brill iant building of tin pans alley. Now it's rude e alone to sell the axis. The rocker has only one old stairway left  to what was Once his or her idea of heaven. It would be cool if someone understood that lost tradition. I bet if someone were to put in enough effort you could even do an show with just one old, broken, bass ic guitar that was so beloved even to most famous payers in the world (or any baas playing maniac) would literally wait on line on stage for a turn to play. no fretting just fend her jazz with the kind of cones and ten inches aluminum that show quite clearly the doom we all face but you cant just see thru a window anymore. Even the harmonie are artificial. the cabinet are missing now. It would ould be cool if that kind of show happened.
 
2013-05-04 06:32:39 AM
Probably not, but hard rock is no where to be seen in mainstream alternative and rock, indie folk hipster people run the genre right now.
 
2013-05-04 07:16:48 AM
I know when I'm looking for an informed opinion regarding "guitar rock", the first venue I think of is "The Village Voice".

Yup.

/Nope.
 
2013-05-04 07:48:11 AM

ZeroCorpse: Acid Jazz is what happens when you throw a jazz band into a meat grinder connected to an amp.


Psychedelic jazz?
 
2013-05-04 08:01:14 AM
Stephen Egerton would like to have a word.
 
2013-05-04 08:06:40 AM
most rock guitarists play like they're masturbating out loud.
 
2013-05-04 08:30:15 AM
Drive by Truckers say "Aw, hell naw!"

Mobile no linky check "marry me", "sink hole", etc.

Also Magnolia Electric Co/Songs:Ohia (RIP Jason Molina)
 
2013-05-04 08:55:18 AM
It's not dead, it's just gone fishing with Les Claypool.
 
2013-05-04 09:08:40 AM
Wyld Stallyons!
 
2013-05-04 09:40:15 AM
Not if these guys have anything to say about it.

i662.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-04 09:47:48 AM
"We were playing with a band that was mostly backing tracks," says Wells, describing a recent show. "The singer was, like, break-dancing on stage,"

Thats where I, like, stopped reading.
 
2013-05-04 09:51:25 AM

pacmanner: Not if these guys have anything to say about it.

[i662.photobucket.com image 720x479]


That's kinda the  point: That picture could have been taken anytime in the last 20 years. I'd guess the band sounds like most other similar looking bands from the last 20 years.
 
2013-05-04 10:12:29 AM

TheGhostofFarkPast: No not at all-

[www.chicagonow.com image 500x500]
One of the most under rated bands in existence. "Pack up the Cats" was a great album that got no love in the 90's and "here comes the zoo" is a masterpiece.


are you a high fivin' mother farker?
 
2013-05-04 10:18:35 AM

Fallout Boy: MrVeach: As long as there are white people, no

[www.freeinfosociety.com image 300x317]

I took a scan of all these obscure bands that people have mentioned in this thread and I will bet that Tom Morello can out-play all of them. Tom needs to get out of the purgatory that is RATM ASAP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yjlpPQ-UYU

Skip to 2:40.



Good God, Cornell is abysmal.  He really can't sing.

And per usual, you can't really tell about Morello's playing because it's mired in effects.
 
2013-05-04 10:20:37 AM
I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

No, guitar rock isn't dead.
 
2013-05-04 10:21:53 AM

MFAWG: pacmanner: Not if these guys have anything to say about it.

[i662.photobucket.com image 720x479]

That's kinda the  point: That picture could have been taken anytime in the last 20 years. I'd guess the band sounds like most other similar looking bands from the last 20 years.


Why the fark does that matter man? They're rocking out and having fun. Maybe you should listen before sounding off like a tool. Better yet go listen to some pre-fab computer generated pop shiate.
 
2013-05-04 10:45:46 AM
Popular guitar centered music is now mostly acoustic. I wouldn't call it Rock, though.
 
2013-05-04 10:55:39 AM

Eufah Kennidiets: Fallout Boy: MrVeach: As long as there are white people, no

[www.freeinfosociety.com image 300x317]

I took a scan of all these obscure bands that people have mentioned in this thread and I will bet that Tom Morello can out-play all of them. Tom needs to get out of the purgatory that is RATM ASAP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yjlpPQ-UYU

Skip to 2:40.


Good God, Cornell is abysmal.  He really can't sing.

And per usual, you can't really tell about Morello's playing because it's mired in effects.



Cornell cant sing?
bitchspot.jadedragononline.com

AND

For guitar not mired in effects.
 
2013-05-04 11:10:18 AM

pacmanner: MFAWG: pacmanner: Not if these guys have anything to say about it.

[i662.photobucket.com image 720x479]

That's kinda the  point: That picture could have been taken anytime in the last 20 years. I'd guess the band sounds like most other similar looking bands from the last 20 years.

Why the fark does that matter man? They're rocking out and having fun. Maybe you should listen before sounding off like a tool. Better yet go listen to some pre-fab computer generated pop shiate.


Decaf, dude. Then go try to create something that isn't a pale imitation of something somebody already did, and did it better.
 
2013-05-04 11:16:27 AM
Someone writes this article every 5-6 years. Rock does its thing: it grows, it fades a little when the market is oversaturated, new toys/computers come in, everyone says rock is dead, people get sick of the toys, and guitar rock comes back.

Even now Mumford and Sons and their clones are on the local Top 40 and AC stations in town. It ain't metal or plugged in, but it's guitar rock.
 
2013-05-04 11:16:48 AM
The new Megadeth cd with Chris Broderick will have the best guitar that you will hear this year.
 
2013-05-04 11:32:15 AM

enderthexenocide: old school mainstream rock music is kind of in a weird place.  it's too "heavy" for most mainstream audiences who like pop music, but many actual rock fans typically lean toward the heavy metal side, so plain rock bands are too much like pop.  personally i love hard rock and heavy metal, but i can't listen to mainstream rock acts like the black keys because the music is just boring to me.

but the guitar as an instrument is still very much alive, just not in popular music at the moment.  i think that the guitar is even more vital to metal music now than it was back in the 80s when thrash was evolving and hair metal was at its peak.


...are you me? That's almost precisely the way I see things, but said better than I could word it.
 
2013-05-04 12:06:51 PM

LemSkroob: Nope. there are good new rock bands all the time, just dont expect to hear them on the radio. Thats fine with me though.


[media.metropulse.com image 588x383]


I haven't listened to radio in...Jeebus, 10 years.

I
 
2013-05-04 12:09:00 PM
probably not, but it is probably not being whored out by the music industry like it used to because it's not as popular as it was in its prime
 
2013-05-04 12:19:39 PM

Third_Uncle_Eno: Whenever I turn on the modern rock station, it's just generic meh riffs. Nothing memorable.
What happened to all the great riff makers of the 60's 70's and 80's? Has the knowledge not been passed down?


the music machine squeezes out the soul of the sound for profits
 
2013-05-04 12:36:06 PM
Just get a better
 
2013-05-04 12:37:05 PM
That feel when I erase everything in my post except the part I actually wanted to erase.

This band didn't vet the other acts they were going to be performing with and this made them feel out-of-place. I don't see how one band's self-caused shiatty experience translates into guitar rock as a whole being a dying art form.
 
2013-05-04 12:39:45 PM

ZeroCorpse: Heavy Metal is angry, childish noise for adolescent boys and men who are hanging onto their youth.

Pop is mechanically-separated, sugar-coated piss in the ears of the mundane audience that adores it.

Hip-Hop is stolen rock and electronica licks with incredibly dumb, marble-mouthed idiots shouting vain obscenities over it.

Dubstep is the noise a synthesizer makes when you beat it with a rock and then flip the arpeggio on "auto loop" for fifteen minutes.

Country is steel guitars and drums playing the same blues riff while a redneck whines about his dog, girl, truck, or politics.

Acid Jazz is what happens when you throw a jazz band into a meat grinder connected to an amp.

Blues is one song with different words.

J-Pop is one song with different-but-similar words.

Modern R&B is the auto-tuned advertising jingle for the town harlot.

Classical is old white guys playing scales on ancient instruments for three hours.

Everybody knows the only real music is New Age.

/Everyone's music sucks.
//Kanye West's most of all.


I don't think I could be this old man if I tried.  Bravo sir.

No kid wants to hear a boring vocal/guitar/bass/drum setup band like their parents were listening to 20 years ago.  And what kids like is cool because kids are idiots and spend all their money on music.

We did a lot with the guitar.  It was UBIQUITOUS.  You couldn't have a "rock band" without a guitar, it was unthinkable.  The fact that other non-guitar based bands can now become popular does not mean the guitar is dead anymore than white people are extinct due to more minorities.  Get over it, and stop worrying that the sky is falling and young people like something different (mostly for different's sake!)
 
2013-05-04 12:47:42 PM
Don't worry, last time it happened DGC Records invented grunge
 
2013-05-04 12:58:46 PM
lepton68:
www.real.gr

Weaksauce^

images.starpulse.com
 
2013-05-04 02:20:37 PM
That was as retarded as anything else you will read in that crap publication.

Thanks for the laugh.
 
2013-05-04 02:22:29 PM
I will say this, I live in a top-50 radio market and we have no modern rock radio station. Zero. Nada.

We have a classic rock station that will play older Nirvana and Pearl Jam songs, but nothing new. We also have 2-3 pop stations and 3-4 country stations.

I listen to Octane on XM when I'm in my GF's truck, I hardly recognize the names of the bands.

Ugh.
 
2013-05-04 02:42:19 PM

Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.


www.sirpierre.se
 
2013-05-04 02:49:48 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

[www.sirpierre.se image 500x317]




Sorry you band sucked.

/off to play
 
2013-05-04 02:53:16 PM

SilentStrider: lepton68: [www.real.gr image 400x300]

Is that Orianthi? Man, she can farkig SHRED like no one's business.


Yeah she can. Best female guiraist I've seen since the late April Lawton.
 
2013-05-04 03:03:05 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Two words.
Frank
Marino

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw_MEs0xOAg


I love me some Mahogany Rush. "Sister Change" is one of my faves.
 
2013-05-04 03:14:26 PM

kab: John McLaughlin, for example, is a pretty big influence to folks who are considered "good" today, and it's more than likely that all of his career has flown under the radar of popularity.


Saw McLaughlin(playing with Chick Corea) once on the old Don Kirshner's Rock Concert and got hooked on his music. We didn't hear any of that kind of music in my area of the country(still don't) and it was a real eye-opener for me.
 
2013-05-04 04:59:50 PM

Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

No, guitar rock isn't dead.


Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist.  My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.  Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)
 
2013-05-04 05:38:33 PM

bhcompy:   Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)


Always felt embarrassed for them when they used those gimmicks. Everyone in the band doesn't have to be the frontman.

I am a keyboardist too, I understand it doesn't have the whole "lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me" factor that lead guitar does. Keyboardists get the smarter girls who are not just wowed by flash and sparkles.
 
2013-05-04 05:46:29 PM

Dragonflew: bhcompy:   Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)

Always felt embarrassed for them when they used those gimmicks. Everyone in the band doesn't have to be the frontman.

I am a keyboardist too, I understand it doesn't have the whole "lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me-lookit-me" factor that lead guitar does. Keyboardists get the smarter girls who are not just wowed by flash and sparkles.


Same here. Been married to my only groupie for almost 9 years.

True that guitarists got all the tail, except it seems more directed at lead singers these days.
 
2013-05-04 06:37:20 PM

bhcompy: Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist. My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.


That's not what the keyboardist is for.

They're the pads, not the leads.
 
2013-05-04 06:50:26 PM

bhcompy: Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

No, guitar rock isn't dead.

Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist.  My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.  Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)


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Keytar Jesus approves
 
2013-05-04 06:52:04 PM
Yes. Why?

Because most of the popular icons / top sellers in that genre are around 60 years old, give or take. Yeah, THOSE acts still have followers and bring in the cash, true, but QUICK! name any "guitar rock" act that's anywhere near the top whose performers are under 30.

Yeah, I thought so.
 
2013-05-04 07:04:38 PM

Ishkur: bhcompy: Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist. My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.

That's not what the keyboardist is for.

They're the pads, not the leads.


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There are lead guitarists and rhythm guitarists...  and sometimes even the rhythm guitarists have solos..

Sonata Arctica does it pretty well..
 
2013-05-04 07:20:35 PM

bhcompy: There are lead guitarists and rhythm guitarists... and sometimes even the rhythm guitarists have solos..


You're not going to have two keyboardists on stage.
 
2013-05-04 07:25:17 PM

Ishkur: bhcompy: There are lead guitarists and rhythm guitarists... and sometimes even the rhythm guitarists have solos..

You're not going to have two keyboardists on stage.


Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal
 
2013-05-04 08:44:41 PM

bhcompy: Lernaeus: I'm the pianist / keyboardist in two bands, and the women without fail gravitate towards the guitarists. Even the bass players get some action.

No, guitar rock isn't dead.

Unless your name is Jens Johansson or Henrik Klingenbergm, people are probably surprised that the bands even have a keyboardist.  My suggestion would be the learn the keytar like Henrik so you can have a stage presence.  Drummers are often in the same boat, which is why they play on elevated platforms, with spinning kits(Peart), or flying kits(Lee)


No.

First of all, I play with BOTH hands, often two manuals/keyboards at once, or I'm manipulating drawbacks, rotary speed, a filter, setting up my next sound, etc. Mostly, though, those things sound awful, and look ridiculously insipid.

Plus, if you play one, you're required by the musicians' union to wear giant, loose white slacks and do the keytar dance - hop, hop, hop, turn, hop, hop, hop, turn - and that's not easy to do while playing Widespread Panic, Allman Brothers, Grateful Dead, Black Crows, etc.
 
2013-05-04 08:45:48 PM
/drawBARS
//stupid autocorrect
 
2013-05-04 09:09:53 PM

bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal


Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker is all you need.
 
2013-05-04 09:13:16 PM
 
2013-05-04 09:18:43 PM

Ishkur: bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal

Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker is all you need.


naturally..
 
2013-05-04 09:55:58 PM

Ishkur: bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal

Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker, and a truss is all you need.

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nsolicited Hammond trivia: If you're playing an outdoor show that runs off a generator, make sure it runs at a constant, exactly 60 cycles, or the organ will out of tune because the tone wheels aren't running at the proper speed.

I went through that problem as a keyboard tech touring with a major (now deceased) keyboard player, and the show almost didn't happen until I finally figured out the problem because the B3 was a signature part of his sound.
That, and a Hohner Clavinet T.
 
2013-05-04 10:19:05 PM
Village Voice? Yeah I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "no, you hipster douchebag".
 
2013-05-04 11:53:18 PM

TommyymmoT: Ishkur: bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal

Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker, and a truss is all you need.

Unsolicited Hammond trivia: If you're playing an outdoor show that runs off a generator, make sure it runs at a constant, exactly 60 cycles, or the organ will out of tune because the tone wheels aren't running at the proper speed.

I went through that problem as a keyboard tech touring with a major (now deceased) keyboard player, and the show almost didn't happen until I finally figured out the problem because the B3 was a signature part of his sound.
That, and a Hohner Clavinet T.


Sounds like the Mellotron problems some of the early prog bands had when lugging their 'trons to the US the first time.  Voltage stabilizers FTW.
 
2013-05-05 01:32:37 AM
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2013-05-05 03:13:10 AM

GypsyJoker: TommyymmoT: Ishkur: bhcompy: Maybe not in American rock or metal.. not unreasonable in Euro metal

Put that noodly wankery away, son. A Hammond B3 with a leslie speaker, and a truss is all you need.

Unsolicited Hammond trivia: If you're playing an outdoor show that runs off a generator, make sure it runs at a constant, exactly 60 cycles, or the organ will out of tune because the tone wheels aren't running at the proper speed.

I went through that problem as a keyboard tech touring with a major (now deceased) keyboard player, and the show almost didn't happen until I finally figured out the problem because the B3 was a signature part of his sound.
That, and a Hohner Clavinet T.

Sounds like the Mellotron problems some of the early prog bands had when lugging their 'trons to the US the first time.  Voltage stabilizers FTW.


I used to work for a band called Renaissance back in the late 70s.
When I merely suggested to their keyboard guy at the time, (John Tout) that he should consider a Mellotron, he looked at me like I was insane.

What a nightmare. Racks of spare magnetic tape loops that wore out on a constant basis, and demagnetising  something like 61 tape heads a few times a week.
No thanks.
 
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