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2013-05-03 06:05:33 PM
3 votes:

Wolf_Blitzer: Tatsuma: mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.

Name one head of state of the country of 'palestine' throughout history, then.

Name one true scotsman.



Robert Burns
2013-05-03 05:56:44 PM
3 votes:

Tatsuma: tallguywithglasseson: Obviously, not you.

I don't get why that's supposed to be a big deal, no.


The important thing here is that you got in right at the start to tell us how unimportant this was and how much you didn't care.
2013-05-03 08:33:31 PM
2 votes:
5/3/2013 - The day Tatsuma switched to Bing.
2013-05-03 07:33:47 PM
2 votes:

Wolf_Blitzer: Tatsuma: mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.

Name one head of state of the country of 'palestine' throughout history, then.

Name one true scotsman.


Billy Connolly
2013-05-03 06:31:47 PM
2 votes:

mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.


upload.wikimedia.org
2013-05-03 06:24:50 PM
2 votes:
Whenever I read about the Palestine-Israeli disagreement, all I see is

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One big endless circle of hate that's f*cking never going to end because both sides are assholes.
2013-05-03 06:14:05 PM
2 votes:

Wolf_Blitzer: Tatsuma: mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.

Name one head of state of the country of 'palestine' throughout history, then.

Name one true scotsman.


William Wallace
2013-05-03 06:13:51 PM
2 votes:

Tatsuma: mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.

Name one head of state of the country of 'palestine' throughout history, then.


www.standupamericaus.org
It's what you types do best.
2013-05-03 06:04:22 PM
2 votes:

Tatsuma: mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.

Name one head of state of the country of 'palestine' throughout history, then.


Name one true scotsman.
2013-05-03 06:01:40 PM
2 votes:

Wolf_Blitzer: rikkidoxx: Name one, just one Palestinian king as an example.

I thought we were an autonomous collective.



You're fooling yourself.
2013-05-03 06:00:17 PM
2 votes:
rikkidoxx: Name one, just one Palestinian king as an example.

I thought we were an autonomous collective.
2013-05-03 05:58:57 PM
2 votes:
Does that mean the paid shrills of IIDF will now tell us to Bing their propaganda instead of Googling it?
2013-05-03 05:53:49 PM
2 votes:
How the hell did a guy get into this picture? Lucky Bastard!

chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com
2013-05-03 05:13:23 PM
2 votes:

Tatsuma: Google is also a censorship tool of the Chinese and many other totalitarian regimes. So, who cares?


Obviously, not you.
2013-05-03 11:24:08 PM
1 votes:

nekulor: Tatsuma: Google is also a censorship tool of the Chinese and many other totalitarian regimes. So, who cares?

Tats, you shill so hard for Israel's right wing, you should be on the payroll.


He's not?
2013-05-03 11:12:28 PM
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Google is also a censorship tool of the Chinese and many other totalitarian regimes. So, who cares?


Tats, you shill so hard for Israel's right wing, you should be on the payroll.
2013-05-03 09:54:11 PM
1 votes:

Thunderpipes: Israelis are good people, Palestinians are not, period.


Well, I'm glad we cleared that up.  Can you settle the other big debates like cat v dog, mayo v miracle whip, and cilantro: yeah or neigh? I mean with your word being absolute and whatnot.
2013-05-03 08:53:04 PM
1 votes:

Clemkadidlefark: Anything to deny the existence of Israel, Israelites.

/I wouldn't stand close to Google


I prefer Israels to Israelites. I don't like "lite" anything - smokes, beer, soda - you name it. No flavor.
2013-05-03 07:58:06 PM
1 votes:
Ahh, building a religious state in the most volatile region in the world with arbitrary borders, foreign in tests, and military aid.

What could possibly go wrong.
2013-05-03 07:51:13 PM
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Anyway, gotta start getting ready, don't know if I'll have time to post some more before it's time.

So, Shabbat Shalom ya'll, have a nice weekend and all that.


Ah yes, the one day a week where you try to get around the rules that an omnipotent god set out for you.

Brilliant.
2013-05-03 07:43:21 PM
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Slesfo: I see what you're saying, but we're talking about who has control of a nation, not where a group of people happened to live. Just because i live in an apartment for 20 years doesn't mean i suddenly get the right to own it again, even if i owned it years ago.

Your analogy fails on many levels.


Sure. i could expand it to make it fit better, but my point is that your argument that it should belong to the jews because it belonged to them once, for 800 years is flawed on af ew basic levels.

First, it doesn't add up to 800, it adds up to about  726, (if you count all the way back to the historically dubious Joshua conquest) but you're still counting the Exile as time where it was controlled by Jews, which is strange. If you count from the time of david, the first time Israel was consolidated together in a fashion that would look like an actual nation, that brings the total down to 526

Next, that total time wasn't even  consecutively, mind you- They controlled it, then lost it, then controlled it, then lost it for 70 years, then controlled it again, then lost it again),

Next, that was a very, VERY long time ago, and many different groups have legitimately owned and controlled it since then. The people from whom it was taken had it for a comparable amount of time. Israel only even had it for a longer (broken up) period if you count the Joshua date, which isn't historically a responsible thing to do. It was under Muslim control from 1291 - 1917= 626 years. And they had it that long CONSECUTIVELY. The longest straight period of time that Jews controlled it was much much shorter.

So, God tells me that I get to own a car. I have to Take it from somebody else by force, but at that time in my country, hey, that's how you got a car. So I go take this car.

Woo hoo, I go joy riding, and boy does this car get jacked up, but people still like it. After a while, somebody, let's call him Baby, Comes along, beats me up, and steals it from me for a few years, during which time, i just walk everywhere. Somebody else, let's call him Persi steals it from him, and then says, "hey bro, I'll let you rent it from me."

Sweet. I get my car back! Then somebody else, Let's call her Helen, comes along and jacks him up, and says to me, "Hey, nice car. It's mine now, I'll let you keep riding in it, but you're not gonna be able to really drive it. My buddy here is gonna drive, but you can sorta back-seat drive, cool?"

Then this new guy comes along, let's call him Roman, starts sleeping with Helen in a sort of abusive, love-hate relationship, and takes all of her assets, but is still like, I love you baby. He comes in and says, " Hi. Uh.. Helen was doing this pretty well. I'm gonna do things her way, and just have my bro here drive. Cool. Peace out."

So I'm sitting here in Roman's car, but dammit, I really wanna drive, and i don't like where he's going with it. after a few weeks, I start throwing a hissy fit here in the back seat. Roman gets fed up with this, pulls the car over, yanks me out, beats the shiat out of me, and drives off. 

I'm left to just walk, and the car changes hands a couple of times after that, but then decades later, I see my car again. It was looking pretty nice- lot of the dings I left in it were smoothed out, and it hadn't been in any wrecks recently, like when i was driving, or when the other assholes were driving.

I DGAF though, and I want it back. I start nagging my friend, Aurthur, driving an Aston Martin, to make him give it to me. He can't be bothered, but eventually, after I get run over by a truck and hospitalized, he feels real bad for me, and decides, "hey, this guy needs a car." So he finds the guy driving the car, Mo, kicks him out of the driver's seat, and puts me in the driver's seat. 

So now, here i am, driving my car, and this asshole, Mo, in the back seat, won't stop biatching and moaning about how I took his car.

Why won't he understand that it's rightfully mine? 


Tatsuma:What if I was John Lennon, uh? Ever thought about that, big boy?

I've thought about that many, many times.
2013-05-03 06:40:33 PM
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Israel was, is, and will always be ours.


I don't think so.
2013-05-03 06:40:02 PM
1 votes:

Wolf_Blitzer: Tatsuma: mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.

Name one head of state of the country of 'palestine' throughout history, then.

Name one true scotsman.


chuckjonescenter.org
Angus McRory!
2013-05-03 06:38:36 PM
1 votes:

Tatsuma: Wolf_Blitzer: You're 2,000 years old?

No. I am 3,335 years old.

It was fate that delivered me and my contemporaries into this great era, when the Jews returned to and re-established their homeland. I am no longer a wandering Jew who migrates from country to country, from exile to exile. But all Jews in every generation must regard themselves as if they had been there, in previous generations, places, and events. Therefore, I am still a wandering Jew, but not along the far-flung paths of the world. Now I migrate through the expanses of time, from generation to generation, down the paths of memory.

Memory shortens distances.

Two hundred generations have passed since my people first came into being, and to me they seem like a few days.
Only two hundred generations have passed since a man named Abraham rose up and left his country and birthplace for the country that is today mine.
Only two hundred generations have elapsed from the day Abraham purchased the Cave of Makhpela in the city of Hebron to the murderous conflicts that have taken place there in my generation.
Only one hundred fifty generations have passed from the Pillar of Fire of the Exodus from Egypt to the pillars of smoke from the Holocaust.
And I, a descendant of Abraham, born in Abraham's country, have witnessed them all.

I was a slave in Egypt.
I received the Torah at Mount Sinai.
Together with Joshua and Elijah, I crossed the Jordan River.
I entered Jerusalem with David, was exiled from it with Zedekiah, and did not forget it by the rivers of Babylon.
When the Lord returned the captives of Zion, I dreamed among the builders of its ramparts.
I fought the Romans and was banished from Spain.
I was bound to the stake in Mainz.
I studied Torah in Yemen and lost my family in Kishinev.
I was incinerated in Treblinka, rebelled in Warsaw, and emigrated to the Land of Israel, the country when I had been exiled and where I had been born, from which I come and to which I return.

I am a wandering Jew who follow ...


The opening scroll text of the Assassin's Creed movie.
2013-05-03 06:38:30 PM
1 votes:

Slesfo: I don't know why he's making this argument. The Muslims had the land longer consecutively (under the Ottoman Empire), than the Jews did collectively, and the Jews haven't had it since the Greeks took it from them... more than 2000 years ago. This is kinda like arguing that I have the right to my late grandfather's stolen car even though it's been bought, sold, and modified a dozen times since, and the current owner has had it longer than he ever did.


We lived under various occupiers in our land for the last 1877 years since the destruction of our Beit HaMikdash. Whether it was the Greeks, or the Romans, or the various Muslim empires fighting each others, we were still living on our land in and the year 5708, or 1948, we finally had our own state again, on the land we've lived, live and will continue to live on. Israel was, is, and will always be ours.

www.haaretz.com
2013-05-03 06:34:42 PM
1 votes:

Wolf_Blitzer: You're 2,000 years old?


No. I am 3,335 years old.

It was fate that delivered me and my contemporaries into this great era, when the Jews returned to and re-established their homeland. I am no longer a wandering Jew who migrates from country to country, from exile to exile. But all Jews in every generation must regard themselves as if they had been there, in previous generations, places, and events. Therefore, I am still a wandering Jew, but not along the far-flung paths of the world. Now I migrate through the expanses of time, from generation to generation, down the paths of memory.

Memory shortens distances.

Two hundred generations have passed since my people first came into being, and to me they seem like a few days.
Only two hundred generations have passed since a man named Abraham rose up and left his country and birthplace for the country that is today mine.
Only two hundred generations have elapsed from the day Abraham purchased the Cave of Makhpela in the city of Hebron to the murderous conflicts that have taken place there in my generation.
Only one hundred fifty generations have passed from the Pillar of Fire of the Exodus from Egypt to the pillars of smoke from the Holocaust.
And I, a descendant of Abraham, born in Abraham's country, have witnessed them all.

I was a slave in Egypt.
I received the Torah at Mount Sinai.
Together with Joshua and Elijah, I crossed the Jordan River.
I entered Jerusalem with David, was exiled from it with Zedekiah, and did not forget it by the rivers of Babylon.
When the Lord returned the captives of Zion, I dreamed among the builders of its ramparts.
I fought the Romans and was banished from Spain.
I was bound to the stake in Mainz.
I studied Torah in Yemen and lost my family in Kishinev.
I was incinerated in Treblinka, rebelled in Warsaw, and emigrated to the Land of Israel, the country when I had been exiled and where I had been born, from which I come and to which I return.

I am a wandering Jew who follows in the footsteps of his forebears, and just as I escorted them there and then, so do my forebears accompany me and stand here with me today.
2013-05-03 06:28:50 PM
1 votes:
How about:

Palestine gives Israel all its land.
Israel gives all Palestinians full citizenship and equality.

One state, one people.

/ ducks
2013-05-03 06:24:55 PM
1 votes:

mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.


I can name an Emperor.
2013-05-03 06:18:28 PM
1 votes:

DORMAMU: Wolf_Blitzer: Tatsuma: mrlewish: Name one King of the United States.

Name one head of state of the country of 'palestine' throughout history, then.

Name one true scotsman.

William Wallace


I have it on good authority that he's Australian.

/actually he's from New York
2013-05-03 06:06:59 PM
1 votes:
How do you recognize on island? You go, "exc... Hey, wait. No, don't tell me. Wait, wait, didn't we meet last year at the Feinman bar mitzvah? You look a lot like Hawaii. Didn't we meet last year at the Peninsula Club? No."

a7maarte.files.wordpress.com
2013-05-03 06:00:16 PM
1 votes:
5/18 comments so far...
2013-05-03 05:58:29 PM
1 votes:

rikkidoxx: There are no such people as Palestinians nor is there a country named Palestine. Name one, just one Palestinian king as an example. Those people euphemistically called Palestinians are actually from Jordan and that area.


Name one King of the United States.
2013-05-03 05:56:36 PM
1 votes:

JosephFinn: Good. Now maybe Israel will stop practicing piracy on shops headed toward Palestinian territorial waters.


All the sea shops belong to us
2013-05-03 05:53:22 PM
1 votes:
That extra word was transmitting .0000001 kilowatts of energy, this was a cost cutting measure
2013-05-03 05:52:38 PM
1 votes:
Did anyone else read that as "placing the name "Palestine" on its search engine instead of "Palestinian Terrorists"."
2013-05-03 05:39:55 PM
1 votes:
IDF I meant.

and for the ladies

ts3.mm.bing.net

He seems to be praying, I hope it is not in bad taste to post a picture of a hot guy praying.
 
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