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2013-05-03 02:22:11 PM  
Heh... It's New Hampshire. They're like New England's Alabama, and New Hampshire Republicans are best described as Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel with a New England accent. : )
 
2013-05-03 02:25:27 PM  
Burn in hell you disgusting coont.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-05-03 02:27:39 PM  
It says something about the state of the country that people like that can get elected.
 
2013-05-03 02:27:40 PM  
I said in the last thread someone should have coont punted her into next week.  I see it hasn't happened yet.
 
2013-05-03 02:31:36 PM  
Wow, that doesn't even make a lick of sense.

"The bombings were staged by the Feds!! That guy wasn't even in pain!!!"

"Um, what I meant by that is I hope their constitutional rights weren't violated.  Sure, that's it."
 
2013-05-03 02:40:23 PM  
FTFA: her comments were out of a desire to question whether the constitutional rights of Watertown, Mass., residents were violated by police searching for a bombing suspect.

Well, there it is, folks.

The police protection of public safety while an armed and dangerous criminal is on the loose is now a violation of Constitutional rights.
 
2013-05-03 02:43:22 PM  
but...but...but...Constitution!
 
2013-05-03 02:51:27 PM  

Kittypie070: FTFA: her comments were out of a desire to question whether the constitutional rights of Watertown, Mass., residents were violated by police searching for a bombing suspect.

Well, there it is, folks.

The police protection of public safety while an armed and dangerous criminal is on the loose is now a violation of Constitutional rights.


Do you not read the Facebooks?  It totes is.
 
2013-05-03 02:51:57 PM  
They elected Drunk Uncle.
 
2013-05-03 02:53:26 PM  
I think I need to save up for a pair of steel-toed boots

:(

/getting profoundly weary of this idiocy
//did not appreciate the fringe weirdo far lefty conspirascreaming about 9-11 either
 
2013-05-03 02:58:19 PM  
[commenter name redacted]
05/03/2013 01:55 PM

I am deeply offended by the initial comments that NH State Rep. Stella Tremblay made and the subsequent follow-up apology. It's bad enough that we as a nation had to endure the emotions of this event and the photographs that followed, but do we also need to listen to an elected official call out conspiracy theories and our government/her employer?

I live on Dexter Ave in Watertown and witnessed the entire shootout from my window. I would love for Mrs. Tremblay to have witnessed what my neighborhood and surrounding areas did, then question whether the police were right to search homes. I am okay with the actions of that day, they were looking out for my safety and the nations, and I loudly applaud their actions.

With her comments I am offended; with her apology I am angered. I was raised to believe that an apology means nothing if you try and justify what you meant, this is in fact what she is doing. "I am sorry, but...."

Republican, Democrat, Independent - I don't care, you were elected by the people to lead by example. You have clearly failed here. From having lived in NH, I can say I am sorry that everyone from that great state has to deal with her actions and unsympathetic remarks.
 
2013-05-03 02:59:58 PM  
It seems to be a new Republican strategy - it's the media's fault when they report something retarded or offensive they said.

Because they're the party of personal responsibility.
 
2013-05-03 03:12:45 PM  
How about these glorious golden hits of yesteryear?

Senator Kyl: "I did not intend this [statement that well over 90% of Planned Parenthood's activity is devoted to abortions] to be a factual statement."

Newt Gingrich: "Let me say on the record, any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood. Because I have said publicly those words were inaccurate and unfortunate."
 
2013-05-03 03:16:18 PM  

vygramul: It seems to be a new Republican strategy - it's the media's fault when they report something retarded or offensive they said.

Because they're the party of personal responsibility.


Maybe we've just been misinterpreting that phrase.  Maybe they mean "whenever you hear something mind-bogglingly stupid or disgusting, you can bet that someone from that party is personally responsible."
 
2013-05-03 03:16:58 PM  

keylock71: Heh... It's New Hampshire. They're like New England's Alabama


Then what's Maine?
 
2013-05-03 03:18:06 PM  

FloydA: vygramul: It seems to be a new Republican strategy - it's the media's fault when they report something retarded or offensive they said.

Because they're the party of personal responsibility.

Maybe we've just been misinterpreting that phrase.  Maybe they mean "whenever you hear something mind-bogglingly stupid or disgusting, you can bet that someone from that party is personally responsible."


Nah, it means what it always means: Someone else is personally responsible for everything bad, always.
 
2013-05-03 03:18:29 PM  

vpb: It says something about the state of the country that people like that can get elected.


They always vote for their favorite team.
 
2013-05-03 03:22:47 PM  

keylock71: Heh... It's New Hampshire. They're like New England's Alabama, and New Hampshire Republicans are best described as Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel with a New England accent. : )


No, I would say NH is more like New England's Texas, because they're more aggressive in their derp and their giant 4x4 penis extenders. If you want a state of simple, weird, rural folk, that's Maine.
 
2013-05-03 03:24:41 PM  

Mrtraveler01: keylock71: Heh... It's New Hampshire. They're like New England's Alabama

Then what's Maine?


Massachusetts' Tijuana?
 
2013-05-03 03:24:56 PM  

Kittypie070: [commenter name redacted]
05/03/2013 01:55 PM

I am deeply offended by the initial comments that NH State Rep. Stella Tremblay made and the subsequent follow-up apology. It's bad enough that we as a nation had to endure the emotions of this event and the photographs that followed, but do we also need to listen to an elected official call out conspiracy theories and our government/her employer?

I live on Dexter Ave in Watertown and witnessed the entire shootout from my window. I would love for Mrs. Tremblay to have witnessed what my neighborhood and surrounding areas did, then question whether the police were right to search homes. I am okay with the actions of that day, they were looking out for my safety and the nations, and I loudly applaud their actions.

With her comments I am offended; with her apology I am angered. I was raised to believe that an apology means nothing if you try and justify what you meant, this is in fact what she is doing. "I am sorry, but...."

Republican, Democrat, Independent - I don't care, you were elected by the people to lead by example. You have clearly failed here. From having lived in NH, I can say I am sorry that everyone from that great state has to deal with her actions and unsympathetic remarks.


while I agree with the larger point here, if the cops had insisted on searching my house I would have politely but firmly refused, assuring them that my house was secure and free of bombers.
Just because its a crisis doesn't mean we need to sacrifice our rights. In fact a crisis is precisely when we have to safeguard them the most
 
2013-05-03 03:25:16 PM  
she's just priming for the summer corn-dog tour

blogs.reuters.comView Full Size


/MB's upper-arm grooviness remind me it's the May fap-a-thon!
 
2013-05-03 03:25:31 PM  

CptnSpldng: Massachusetts' Tijuana?


Maine and Massachusetts do not share a border. It was one of the reasons why Maine became its own state.
 
2013-05-03 03:25:32 PM  
So inventing a conspiracy theory and directly challenging one of the victims was just out of concern about the police response.

 I wonder which side of the NRA's culture war this woman is on?
 
2013-05-03 03:27:52 PM  
Just quit while you're retarded. The hole can only be dug deeper.
 
2013-05-03 03:27:55 PM  
Sounds like a paulista/alex jones freak...
 
2013-05-03 03:28:48 PM  

gilgigamesh: Kittypie070: [commenter name redacted]
05/03/2013 01:55 PM

I am deeply offended by the initial comments that NH State Rep. Stella Tremblay made and the subsequent follow-up apology. It's bad enough that we as a nation had to endure the emotions of this event and the photographs that followed, but do we also need to listen to an elected official call out conspiracy theories and our government/her employer?

I live on Dexter Ave in Watertown and witnessed the entire shootout from my window. I would love for Mrs. Tremblay to have witnessed what my neighborhood and surrounding areas did, then question whether the police were right to search homes. I am okay with the actions of that day, they were looking out for my safety and the nations, and I loudly applaud their actions.

With her comments I am offended; with her apology I am angered. I was raised to believe that an apology means nothing if you try and justify what you meant, this is in fact what she is doing. "I am sorry, but...."

Republican, Democrat, Independent - I don't care, you were elected by the people to lead by example. You have clearly failed here. From having lived in NH, I can say I am sorry that everyone from that great state has to deal with her actions and unsympathetic remarks.

while I agree with the larger point here, if the cops had insisted on searching my house I would have politely but firmly refused, assuring them that my house was secure and free of bombers.
Just because its a crisis doesn't mean we need to sacrifice our rights. In fact a crisis is precisely when we have to safeguard them the most


So if he chose to hide in your boat/basement/attic and you assured them he wasn't there because you are "standing up for your rights". You better not call back for help when you found him later.
 
2013-05-03 03:29:10 PM  

gilgigamesh: while I agree with the larger point here, if the cops had insisted on searching my house I would have politely but firmly refused, assuring them that my house was secure and free of bombers.
Just because its a crisis doesn't mean we need to sacrifice our rights. In fact a crisis is precisely when we have to safeguard them the most




An emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, or destruction of evidence. There is no ready litmus test for determining whether such circumstances exist, and in each case the extraordinary situation must be measured by the facts known by officials.[1]
Those circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry (or other relevant prompt action) was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons, the destruction of relevant evidence, the escape of a suspect, or some other consequence improperly frustrating legitimate law enforcement efforts.

United States v. McConney, 728 F. 2d 1195, 1199 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 824 (1984)

The don't need your permission
 
2013-05-03 03:29:15 PM  
Tremblay has called Woodrow Wilson a follower of Hitler.

She is also a leader of the movement to restore the real 13th amendment to the US constition, replacing the fake version which was secretly swapped in to free the slaves.
And she's a birther.

In other words...mainstream Republican.
 
2013-05-03 03:30:03 PM  

Mrtraveler01: keylock71: Heh... It's New Hampshire. They're like New England's Alabama

Then what's Maine?


I don't know... Kentucky? : )


theorellior: keylock71: Heh... It's New Hampshire. They're like New England's Alabama, and New Hampshire Republicans are best described as Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel with a New England accent. : )

No, I would say NH is more like New England's Texas, because they're more aggressive in their derp and their giant 4x4 penis extenders. If you want a state of simple, weird, rural folk, that's Maine.



Touché...
 
2013-05-03 03:31:09 PM  

vpb: It says something about the state of the country Republican Party that so many people like that can get elected.


I mean, come on. . . .
 
2013-05-03 03:32:19 PM  
These are the same class of people that format their apologies as "I'm sorry anyone was offended"
 
2013-05-03 03:34:13 PM  

jaytkay: Tremblay has called Woodrow Wilson a follower of Hitler.

She is also a leader of the movement to restore the real 13th amendment to the US constition, replacing the fake version which was secretly swapped in to free the slaves.
And she's a birther.

In other words...mainstream Republican.


Woah. Fake 13th? I hadn't heard that one before.
 
2013-05-03 03:35:36 PM  
Some folks feel the need to place the blame on somebody for these tragedies. It's easy to see the Muslims, the Masons, the Illuminati or others as threats that undermine our liberties. There are a lot of half baked theories out there, but when you peel back the layers, when you do your own thinking and come to understand and see the truth, it should be really clear who is in the driver's seat. I don't know any of the conspiracy theorists that want to admit it, but deep down they know who the real master of the world is: Nobody. See, the folks that are passionate about it, those who place themselves behind a microphone, yelling over airwaves about how the government is out to get us, want their theories to be true because the alternative is more frightening.

It's quite scary to think about who is in the driver's seat: no one. And these folks desperately yearn to be on a ship fighting together against an evil tyrant than face the madness of an unpredictably chaotic sea, because at least you can fight back against the captain.

Our experience with large bureaucracy has shown that each person in it tries to carve out their own fiefdom to work in, a result that ends up undermining others in order to control any small patch of authority they can, each a current that pulls the ship this way and that. A sea containing thousands of currents might make survival seem hopeless. And our government is full of currents. That's really what's really going on, if you study it out.
 
2013-05-03 03:35:58 PM  

Cheron: gilgigamesh: while I agree with the larger point here, if the cops had insisted on searching my house I would have politely but firmly refused, assuring them that my house was secure and free of bombers.
Just because its a crisis doesn't mean we need to sacrifice our rights. In fact a crisis is precisely when we have to safeguard them the most


An emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, or destruction of evidence. There is no ready litmus test for determining whether such circumstances exist, and in each case the extraordinary situation must be measured by the facts known by officials.[1]
Those circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry (or other relevant prompt action) was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons, the destruction of relevant evidence, the escape of a suspect, or some other consequence improperly frustrating legitimate law enforcement efforts.
United States v. McConney, 728 F. 2d 1195, 1199 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 824 (1984)

The don't need your permission


Stop clouding the issues with the facts.
 
2013-05-03 03:36:26 PM  
"Hey, that guy with his legs blown off looks like he's faking it!" And by that I mean "I wonder if his constitutional rights were violated?" = a lesson in how to make a stupid statement sound even dumber.
 
2013-05-03 03:37:51 PM  

theorellior: CptnSpldng: Massachusetts' Tijuana?

Maine and Massachusetts do not share a border. It was one of the reasons why Maine became its own state.


So New Hampshire is sorta the condom between MA & ME?
 
2013-05-03 03:39:13 PM  

papafree: Some folks feel the need to place the blame on somebody for these tragedies. It's easy to see the Muslims, the Masons, the Illuminati or others as threats that undermine our liberties. There are a lot of half baked theories out there, but when you peel back the layers, when you do your own thinking and come to understand and see the truth, it should be really clear who is in the driver's seat. I don't know any of the conspiracy theorists that want to admit it, but deep down they know who the real master of the world is: Nobody. See, the folks that are passionate about it, those who place themselves behind a microphone, yelling over airwaves about how the government is out to get us, want their theories to be true because the alternative is more frightening.

It's quite scary to think about who is in the driver's seat: no one. And these folks desperately yearn to be on a ship fighting together against an evil tyrant than face the madness of an unpredictably chaotic sea, because at least you can fight back against the captain.

Our experience with large bureaucracy has shown that each person in it tries to carve out their own fiefdom to work in, a result that ends up undermining others in order to control any small patch of authority they can, each a current that pulls the ship this way and that. A sea containing thousands of currents might make survival seem hopeless. And our government is full of currents. That's really what's really going on, if you study it out.


Pretty close to the truth. It's easier and simpler to think life is an injustice as a result of an individual or cabal than it is to accept that life is chaotic, random, and things cannot be what they want them to be. Ever.
 
2013-05-03 03:42:40 PM  

Lsherm: coont punted


I'm glad this is a thing.
 
2013-05-03 03:43:33 PM  

CptnSpldng: theorellior: CptnSpldng: Massachusetts' Tijuana?

Maine and Massachusetts do not share a border. It was one of the reasons why Maine became its own state.

So New Hampshire is sorta the condom between MA & ME?


Heh... That's actually a pretty good description of the area between Seabrook and Portsmouth.
 
2013-05-03 03:44:32 PM  

Mrtraveler01: keylock71: Heh... It's New Hampshire. They're like New England's Alabama

Then what's Maine?


America's Newfoundland?
 
2013-05-03 03:45:03 PM  

Kittypie070: I think I need to save up for a pair of steel-toed boots

:(

/getting profoundly weary of this idiocy
//did not appreciate the fringe weirdo far lefty conspirascreaming about 9-11 either


If I steal the word "conspirascreaming" and forget to give you credit, will you please not kick me in the balls with those steel-toed boots?

Yes, the truthers grated my last nerve, and made the rest of us with valid Bush criticisms look like idiots. To be fair, wingnuttery knows no ideological affiliation. I've met my share of 'baggers who, when tired of truthing, caught the connecting flight to birtherism. Wingnuts gonna wing as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.
 
2013-05-03 03:46:05 PM  

Cheron: gilgigamesh: while I agree with the larger point here, if the cops had insisted on searching my house I would have politely but firmly refused, assuring them that my house was secure and free of bombers.
Just because its a crisis doesn't mean we need to sacrifice our rights. In fact a crisis is precisely when we have to safeguard them the most


An emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, or destruction of evidence. There is no ready litmus test for determining whether such circumstances exist, and in each case the extraordinary situation must be measured by the facts known by officials.[1]
Those circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry (or other relevant prompt action) was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons, the destruction of relevant evidence, the escape of a suspect, or some other consequence improperly frustrating legitimate law enforcement efforts.
United States v. McConney, 728 F. 2d 1195, 1199 (9th Cir.), cert. denied, 469 U.S. 824 (1984)

The don't need your permission


yeah... No. Selective Wikipedia quotes do not case law make. It isn't quite that simple.
 
2013-05-03 03:50:37 PM  
Both Sides Are Bad So Vote coont.
 
2013-05-03 03:51:29 PM  

gilgigamesh: Kittypie070: [commenter name redacted]
05/03/2013 01:55 PM

I am deeply offended by the initial comments that NH State Rep. Stella Tremblay made and the subsequent follow-up apology. It's bad enough that we as a nation had to endure the emotions of this event and the photographs that followed, but do we also need to listen to an elected official call out conspiracy theories and our government/her employer?

I live on Dexter Ave in Watertown and witnessed the entire shootout from my window. I would love for Mrs. Tremblay to have witnessed what my neighborhood and surrounding areas did, then question whether the police were right to search homes. I am okay with the actions of that day, they were looking out for my safety and the nations, and I loudly applaud their actions.

With her comments I am offended; with her apology I am angered. I was raised to believe that an apology means nothing if you try and justify what you meant, this is in fact what she is doing. "I am sorry, but...."

Republican, Democrat, Independent - I don't care, you were elected by the people to lead by example. You have clearly failed here. From having lived in NH, I can say I am sorry that everyone from that great state has to deal with her actions and unsympathetic remarks.

while I agree with the larger point here, if the cops had insisted on searching my house I would have politely but firmly refused, assuring them that my house was secure and free of bombers.
Just because its a crisis doesn't mean we need to sacrifice our rights. In fact a crisis is precisely when we have to safeguard them the most


These were bombers. BOMBERS. As in, people with an unknown quantity of BOMBS which could explode and endanger more than just your attic! Even though their further bomb count turned out to be zero and they were instead merely armed and dangerous, I'd like to think the police would be perfectly justified in searching your home for them to make sure your neighbors aren't subjected to explosions and flying house shards from your former vicinity.
 
2013-05-03 03:51:51 PM  

dickfreckle: Kittypie070: I think I need to save up for a pair of steel-toed boots

:(

/getting profoundly weary of this idiocy
//did not appreciate the fringe weirdo far lefty conspirascreaming about 9-11 either


If I steal the word "conspirascreaming" and forget to give you credit, will you please not kick me in the balls with those steel-toed boots?

Yes, the truthers grated my last nerve, and made the rest of us with valid Bush criticisms look like idiots. To be fair, wingnuttery knows no ideological affiliation. I've met my share of 'baggers who, when tired of truthing, caught the connecting flight to birtherism. Wingnuts gonna wing as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.


You are free to gank my stuff completely without credit any old time. :)

You are also not on my kicking list.
 
2013-05-03 03:52:50 PM  

vygramul: It seems to be a new Republican strategy - it's the media's fault when they report something retarded or offensive they said.

Because they're the party of personal responsibility.


They are the party of other people's responsibility (i.e. it's always someone else's fault).
 
2013-05-03 03:53:26 PM  

JusticeandIndependence: jaytkay: Tremblay has called Woodrow Wilson a follower of Hitler.

She is also a leader of the movement to restore the real 13th amendment to the US constition, replacing the fake version which was secretly swapped in to free the slaves.
And she's a birther.

In other words...mainstream Republican.

Woah. Fake 13th? I hadn't heard that one before.



So... you're saying you have heard one about a president who died in 1924 being a Hitler follower?
 
2013-05-03 03:56:15 PM  

keylock71: Heh... It's New Hampshire. They're like New England's Alabama, and New Hampshire Republicans are best described as Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel with a New England accent. : )


I've never understood that.  They're surrounded by hippies and commies on all sides.  One would think some of it would rub off on them, eventually.
 
2013-05-03 03:57:01 PM  
The most lucrative contract in government history is the one that purchases alcohol and antacids for Republican public relations offices.
 
2013-05-03 04:00:20 PM  

jaytkay: Tremblay has called Woodrow Wilson a follower of Hitler.


Are you sure she didn't say that Wilson's involvement in WWI and the Versailles Treaty led to the rise of Hitler and the Nazis?

She could have gotten than all mixed up.
 
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