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2013-05-03 10:56:42 AM
Liar, liar, pants on.... whoa!
 
2013-05-03 10:59:43 AM
So all those hot girls in my ZIP code aren't real?
 
2013-05-03 11:03:02 AM
Whoa whoa whoa. Let's leave xhamster out of this.

/"hey let's make a sex tape even though we've only know each other for 4 days!"
//"what could possibly go wrong?"
 
2013-05-03 11:03:51 AM
So, that one video that's copied twice with two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NAMES is....what?  Two different couples in the same floorplan bedroom with exactly the same furniture, doing the exact same things?

/One was ex-gf porn, the other was wife-gives-bj porn
//I guess the wife USED to be his gf...
 
2013-05-03 11:04:27 AM
revenge porn


go on
 
2013-05-03 11:05:14 AM
What I love about articles like this; it gives me websites I otherwise would have not have known existed.
Only one I knew was xhamster.
 
2013-05-03 11:05:22 AM
If there's any rule that kids today should be taught, it's that you should never, ever agree to being recorded naked, having sex, engaging in sexual activities, taking drugs, or drinking alcohol. You may think it is a fun idea at the time to give your sexual partner a video he/she can watch while you are not around. IT IS A BAD IDEA.

A sex tape, unless you are being paid to make it, is something you want no part of. Just say NO.
 
2013-05-03 11:06:17 AM
I guess when women post revenge porn of men they have been with it shows little peens, limp dongs and premature ejaculation.
 
2013-05-03 11:08:51 AM
Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.
 
2013-05-03 11:10:26 AM
FTFA: The earlier class-action suit was filed against revenge-porn site Texxxan.com, as well as against GoDaddy, for whatever profit it got off hosting a site dedicated to the victims' humiliation.

I understand going after the host site, but how is GoDaddy complicit in this suit? Why not sue Google for indexing it...or HP for making computers that can access it.  This seems like the typical "Throw a lawsuit at everyone and hope something sticks" approach.
 
2013-05-03 11:11:08 AM
I'm just so glad it was a white guy this time, you know?
 
2013-05-03 11:11:37 AM

Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.


I can see where you're coming from, but this is one of those "dick move" things that really does need to be clamped down on.
 
2013-05-03 11:12:18 AM

Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.


This is great. polished and professional. points deducted for early strike in obvious troll thread, but 7.89/10 irregardless
 
2013-05-03 11:12:46 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: If there's any rule that kids today should be taught, it's that you should never, ever agree to being recorded naked, having sex, engaging in sexual activities, taking drugs, or drinking alcohol. You may think it is a fun idea at the time to give your sexual partner a video he/she can watch while you are not around. IT IS A BAD IDEA.

A sex tape, unless you are being paid to make it, is something you want no part of. Just say NO.


Honestly, my wife and I are constantly praising Jeebus that camera phones and social media weren't around while we were growing up. And we're constantly cursing Jeebus for it being so prevalent now for my kids.

/no farking webcams in my house!
 
2013-05-03 11:13:22 AM
This reminds me of the trend a while back for women to look guys up on sites that published information about them as to why they were bad guys to date or whatever, and allowed women to trashtalk men. The sites got a bunch of bad press when guys found out that they were being listed maliciously, rather than because of a serious issue, and then a bunch of women got pissed when the guys launched "dontdateherbro.com" to do the exact same thing to them.
 
2013-05-03 11:14:01 AM

js34603: /no farking webcams in my house!


Good luck with that.
 
2013-05-03 11:15:18 AM
Really good idea to give away the name of four websites where that filth is propagated.

The kinds of things they do is just the lowest of the low. There is just so much wrong with taking pictures of exes, putting them online and giving away their information as well.
 
2013-05-03 11:15:19 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: If there's any rule that kids today should be taught, it's that you should never, ever agree to being recorded naked, having sex, engaging in sexual activities, taking drugs, or drinking alcohol. You may think it is a fun idea at the time to give your sexual partner a video he/she can watch while you are not around. IT IS A BAD IDEA.

A sex tape, unless you are being paid to make it, is something you want no part of. Just say NO.


post videos of your ex online without permission.  you're angry, mad and hurt and you really want to lash out but you are racking it for everyone else.  If women start to think about how making a home video could go wrong they will stop making them.
 
2013-05-03 11:15:31 AM

Bravo Two: js34603: /no farking webcams in my house!

Good luck with that.


Well until they get jobs, I don't think it will be a problem.
 
2013-05-03 11:15:57 AM
AverageAmericanGuy


If there's any rule that kids today should be taught, it's that you should never, ever agree to being recorded naked, having sex, engaging in sexual activities, taking drugs, or drinking alcohol. You may think it is a fun idea at the time to give your sexual partner a video he/she can watch while you are not around. IT IS A BAD IDEA.

A sex tape, unless you are being paid to make it, is something you want no part of. Just say NO.


Well you can tell them that but the media (Facebook, Twitter ect) encourage sharing everything with everybody, in some cases they become narcissistic assholes who seek the instant gratification and attention as a bane of their existence. Similar to Truman Show syndrome, the media is creating shallow self absorbed weak-minded drones.
 
2013-05-03 11:15:57 AM

Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.


I'm going to have to see the evidence first before I make any judgements
 
2013-05-03 11:16:07 AM
well this is interesting

happened at a university in south Florida, you say?
 
2013-05-03 11:16:21 AM

Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.


A letter of fair use and consent is needed to go around distributing material like this.
If the only defense the person has is: 'she said it was ok', then he's pretty much screwed.
 
2013-05-03 11:16:31 AM

Cheron: AverageAmericanGuy: If there's any rule that kids today should be taught, it's that you should never, ever agree to being recorded naked, having sex, engaging in sexual activities, taking drugs, or drinking alcohol. You may think it is a fun idea at the time to give your sexual partner a video he/she can watch while you are not around. IT IS A BAD IDEA.

A sex tape, unless you are being paid to make it, is something you want no part of. Just say NO.

post videos of your ex online without permission.  you're angry, mad and hurt and you really want to lash out but you are racking it for everyone else.  If women start to think about how making a home video could go wrong they will stop making them.


That horse has already left the barn.
 
2013-05-03 11:18:04 AM

Bravo Two: This reminds me of the trend a while back for women to look guys up on sites that published information about them as to why they were bad guys to date or whatever, and allowed women to trashtalk men. The sites got a bunch of bad press when guys found out that they were being listed maliciously, rather than because of a serious issue, and then a bunch of women got pissed when the guys launched "dontdateherbro.com" to do the exact same thing to them.


That ex-cop turned cop killer Christopher Dorner was listed on a website like that. I'm pretty sure her complaints were probably legit.
 
2013-05-03 11:22:21 AM

Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.


Because Patriarchy!
 
2013-05-03 11:22:22 AM

Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.


Exactly, women, if you don't like your whorish acts being published then don't record them.

At the least take pics for reverse blackmail purposes.
 
2013-05-03 11:24:01 AM
TTIUW-links to the video and/or pictures
 
2013-05-03 11:24:13 AM

Tatsuma: Really good idea to give away the name of four websites where that filth is propagated.

The kinds of things they do is just the lowest of the low. There is just so much wrong with taking pictures of exes, putting them online and giving away their information as well.


I agree, it was a great idea to give away the name of those sites. I told two friends. and they told two friends... and so on, and so on...
 
2013-05-03 11:24:20 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.

A letter of fair use and consent is needed to go around distributing material like this.
If the only defense the person has is: 'she said it was ok', then he's pretty much screwed.


Do you have anything that supports that statement?  Looks to me like there's no requirement like that in Copyright law and (outside of a few states), no recourse for someone who is the subject of a video.
 
2013-05-03 11:25:00 AM

willfullyobscure: Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.

This is great. polished and professional. points deducted for early strike in obvious troll thread, but 7.89/10 irregardless


Really?  I would have scored it a little higher. The level of apparent lucidity is rare and deserves to be recognized.  I'd round that up to a full 8.0.
 
2013-05-03 11:25:27 AM

WhippingBoy: Tatsuma: Really good idea to give away the name of four websites where that filth is propagated.

The kinds of things they do is just the lowest of the low. There is just so much wrong with taking pictures of exes, putting them online and giving away their information as well.

I agree, it was a great idea to give away the name of those sites. I told two friends. and they told two friends... and so on, and so on...


I know I could never find porn unless I saw the name of the website in an article.
 
2013-05-03 11:25:54 AM
Girls these days don't even hit 18 before distributing nude pics and videos of themselves with smartphones. This thing will sort itself out once they get older and replace the current crop of 20-40 year-olds.
 
2013-05-03 11:26:12 AM

js34603: Whoa whoa whoa. Let's leave xhamster out of this.



This!
 
2013-05-03 11:26:52 AM

meanmutton: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.

A letter of fair use and consent is needed to go around distributing material like this.
If the only defense the person has is: 'she said it was ok', then he's pretty much screwed.

Do you have anything that supports that statement?  Looks to me like there's no requirement like that in Copyright law and (outside of a few states), no recourse for someone who is the subject of a video.


IANAL, but I'm pretty sure verbal agreements are actually far more binding than people think they are.
 
2013-05-03 11:27:20 AM
I'm genuinely curious here. How do these sites even exist, given the record-keeping requirements of 18 USC 2257, 18 USC 2257A and 28 CFR 75, etc.? They clearly don't have records identifying the names, ages, etc. of those participating in the acts depicted, and they're clearly profit-making commercial entities. Surely that's a federal charge in the making, right there.
 
2013-05-03 11:28:05 AM

meanmutton: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Warlordtrooper: Did she consent to the act being recorded?

Did he own the video equipment?  (And therefore the rights to the video produced)

If Yes to both of them I fail to see why she should be able to sue.

A letter of fair use and consent is needed to go around distributing material like this.
If the only defense the person has is: 'she said it was ok', then he's pretty much screwed.

Do you have anything that supports that statement?  Looks to me like there's no requirement like that in Copyright law and (outside of a few states), no recourse for someone who is the subject of a video.


Among other things,  distributors of nude photographs in Florida are required to maintain records (A specific document, I forget the form number) proving that the models are of legal age.   So at the very least,   these nogoodniks can be gotten on that statute.
 
2013-05-03 11:28:44 AM
That's what you get for having pre-marital sex you little hussy!
 
2013-05-03 11:28:50 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: If there's any rule that kids today should be taught, it's that you should never, ever agree to being recorded naked, having sex, engaging in sexual activities, taking drugs, or drinking alcohol. You may think it is a fun idea at the time to give your sexual partner a video he/she can watch while you are not around. IT IS A BAD IDEA.

A sex tape, unless you are being paid to make it, is something you want no part of. Just say NO.


We are going to need a law requiring a signature before a drunk photo is posted online.

Sluts
 
2013-05-03 11:29:05 AM

gweilo8888: I'm genuinely curious here. How do these sites even exist, given the record-keeping requirements of 18 USC 2257, 18 USC 2257A and 28 CFR 75, etc.? They clearly don't have records identifying the names, ages, etc. of those participating in the acts depicted, and they're clearly profit-making commercial entities. Surely that's a federal charge in the making, right there.


Damn you,  posting in between when I started typing and entering, and with the actual code numbers I forgot! :)
 
2013-05-03 11:30:03 AM

gweilo8888: I'm genuinely curious here. How do these sites even exist, given the record-keeping requirements of 18 USC 2257, 18 USC 2257A and 28 CFR 75, etc.? They clearly don't have records identifying the names, ages, etc. of those participating in the acts depicted, and they're clearly profit-making commercial entities. Surely that's a federal charge in the making, right there.


Probably based out of a country other than the US.
 
2013-05-03 11:32:22 AM

js34603: Probably based out of a country other than the US.


In which case how are they targeted by a revenge porn lawsuit in the US, and what possible impact can the suit have?
 
2013-05-03 11:38:41 AM
Gorgor was the all time MASTER of revenge porn.

/Of all time.
//Too bad that we lost him during the "Family Friendly Fark" purge.
///I never grew weary of his zany shenanigans.
 
2013-05-03 11:41:19 AM
Speaking of these porn tube sites, can they stop with the disgusting goddamn banner ads already? There's nothing worse than clicking on a video and being greeted with 3x10" banner of a naked 300 lbs Ron Jeremy advertising penis growth juice.
 
2013-05-03 11:42:10 AM

gweilo8888: js34603: Probably based out of a country other than the US.

In which case how are they targeted by a revenge porn lawsuit in the US, and what possible impact can the suit have?


I'm guessing (not my area of speciality) they are subject to a civil suit by virtue of doing "business" here. But merely doing "business" here would not necessarily subject them to the record keeping requirements you mentioned.

As far as the impact on them, would be the same as on any US based business, they could have a judgment entered against them and either pay up or face the consequences, which will never be the same.

If they are actually based out of the country, I'm sure they will challenge the civil suit on grounds of lack of jurisdiction.
 
2013-05-03 11:42:51 AM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Gorgor was the all time MASTER of revenge porn.

/Of all time.
//Too bad that we lost him during the "Family Friendly Fark" purge.
///I never grew weary of his zany shenanigans.


Ah, He-who-should-not-be-named-that-is-now-named...

You knew what you where going to see when you clicked on it.  YOU KNEW IT!  But you went ahead and clicked anyway...

/counterpoint.jpg
 
2013-05-03 11:43:33 AM
I'm so disappointed no farkers found any pictures of the plaintiff
 
2013-05-03 11:44:29 AM
So...is she hot?
 
2013-05-03 11:44:59 AM
Oral contracts are just as legally binding as written contracts.

The rub is, they are much harder to get to stand up in court. In fact, often impossible.

Or, as is sometimes said "an oral agreement is worth less than the paper it was writ upon".
 
2013-05-03 11:47:52 AM

Munchkin City Coroner: So...is she hot?


Lotta teeth, but yeah, easy on the eyes. I'd like to review some of the evidence in question here...
 
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