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(Independent)   Remember the first half of The Stand? Yeah, now put that lab in China. What is Captain Trips in Mandarin?   (independent.co.uk ) divider line
    More: Scary, Captain Trips, Chinese, UKIP, Orthomyxoviridae, avian influenza, laboratory, H1N1 flu  
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2013-05-03 08:27:24 AM  
M-O-O-N  that spells goddammit China!
 
2013-05-03 08:39:05 AM  
Captain Tlips
 
2013-05-03 08:40:06 AM  
bumpty bump, bumpty bump

FILA FILA
 
2013-05-03 08:49:27 AM  
What are you worried about? China has a terrific track record of full disclosure and efficiency when dealing with possible biological contaminants.

static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-05-03 08:52:26 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Captain Tlips


Done in two.
 
2013-05-03 08:54:27 AM  
Baby can you dig your glorious leader?
 
2013-05-03 08:56:19 AM  
If there is one thing I'm sure of, it is that eventually, somebody, somewhere, will create something that will escape the lab, and a lot of people will die.  We've reached the singularity, as far as genetic research is concerned, and we can easily create something horrible.  So it's a given that we will (or already have), and it's a given that we'll bumble it.
 
2013-05-03 08:57:25 AM  
i224.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-03 08:57:58 AM  
The center does not hold
 
2013-05-03 08:58:14 AM  
I, for one, welcome our new viral overlords.
 
2013-05-03 08:58:16 AM  
Mixing viruses to create new ones... Why is this a thing?
Why would you ever?!
 
2013-05-03 08:59:43 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Captain Tlips


You maniacs. God damn you. God damn you all to hell.
 
2013-05-03 09:00:23 AM  

way south: Mixing viruses to create new ones... Why is this a thing?
Why would you ever?!


The Flu virus is a horny bastard that mates like crazy, if we can mix two flu viri together, its probably happening in the wild as well.
 
2013-05-03 09:01:48 AM  
Only millions of people? Even if it kills 20 million Chinese, that's .014% of the countries population.
 
2013-05-03 09:01:50 AM  
Packing my bags for Vegas.
 
2013-05-03 09:02:06 AM  
There is someone we need to send over to China
www.pitofhorror.com
 
2013-05-03 09:02:18 AM  

Kibbler: If there is one thing I'm sure of, it is that eventually, somebody, somewhere, will create something that will escape the lab, and a lot of people will die.  We've reached the singularity, as far as genetic research is concerned, and we can easily create something horrible.  So it's a given that we will (or already have), and it's a given that we'll bumble it.


something already has gotten out.
 
2013-05-03 09:03:00 AM  
Gary Sinise will remain horribly miscast.
 
2013-05-03 09:04:28 AM  
If this thing goes horribly wrong and someone needs to lay the wood to a 30-something Laura San Giacomo's butt, please give me a ring.
 
2013-05-03 09:05:57 AM  
Ahhhhhh....Shanghai Suprise!
 
2013-05-03 09:06:14 AM  

WTF Indeed: Only millions of people? Even if it kills 20 million Chinese, that's .014% of the countries population.


1.49%, Eisenstein.
 
2013-05-03 09:08:55 AM  

WTF Indeed: Only millions of people? Even if it kills 20 million Chinese, that's .014% of the countries population.


There's 143 billion people in China?
 
2013-05-03 09:10:07 AM  
Don't worry, if it's something the chinese are known for, it's rigorous safety standards which they follow to the letter.
 
2013-05-03 09:12:31 AM  

way south: Mixing viruses to create new ones... Why is this a thing?
Why would you ever?!


Aside from the obvious bioweapons answer, there is actually a research answer: to help us better understand gene interactions. Add, "so we can better combat viruses by knowing exactly which genes produce what protein to what effect in combination with the other genes its associated with".

One way of pursuing such research is by mixing and matching gene combinations and seeing what happens. You can't necessarily do this with living cells, because you have to keep enough of the genome intact for the cells to be viable. A virus doesn't really have such limitations, so researchers can adopt a try and see what happens approach. If they can detect any general trends with specific gene combinations, they could potentially produce better anti-virals, better vaccines, etc from such research.

Of course, this may very well go extremely wrong, but there are some good sound reasons for such research.
 
2013-05-03 09:12:41 AM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Gary Sinise will remain horribly miscast.


I thought he carried the entire thing on his shoulders
 
2013-05-03 09:16:38 AM  
that female offspring program wasn't doing enough, apparently.
 
2013-05-03 09:18:00 AM  
Pandemic II Erectric Boogaroo
 
2013-05-03 09:22:10 AM  
This is what happens when SCIENCE trumps JESUS.
 
2013-05-03 09:23:31 AM  

LlamaGirl: M-O-O-N  that spells goddammit China!


Done in one...
/beat me too it
 
2013-05-03 09:24:38 AM  
www.ifc.com
It's captaaiiint trrrrrrriiips.
 
2013-05-03 09:27:02 AM  

MythDragon: There is someone we need to send over to China
[www.pitofhorror.com image 320x240]


My rife for you!

Take my rife? Prease?

/got nothing
 
2013-05-03 09:28:25 AM  
Everyone's always complaining about over population, but nobody wants to man up and do anything about it.

Well here it is, in all of it's random killing glory. Who's going to put their money where their mouth is and let the genie out of the bottle?
 
2013-05-03 09:30:08 AM  

jaybeezey: Everyone's always complaining about over population, but nobody wants to man up and do anything about it.

Well here it is, in all of it's random killing glory. Who's going to put their money where their mouth is and let the genie out of the bottle?


It's going to happen eventually, whether man made or a natural progression. It makes humanity a self correcting problem
 
2013-05-03 09:30:09 AM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Gary Sinise will remain horribly miscast.


You misspelled Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
 
2013-05-03 09:33:18 AM  
Well, it looks like these guys opened up a research division in China.


upload.wikimedia.org

Don't worry, they learned from their past mistakes.
 
2013-05-03 09:36:41 AM  

RussianPooper: WTF Indeed: Only millions of people? Even if it kills 20 million Chinese, that's .014% of the countries population.

There's 143 billion people in China?


They miscounted on their last census and accidentally missed a few people. This is the revised number.
 
2013-05-03 09:38:00 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: This is what happens when SCIENCE trumps JESUS.


God creates man.   Man creates virus.  Virus eats man.  God is a jerk.
 
2013-05-03 09:43:31 AM  
This is done by mutating the virus so that it can pass by airborne droplets between laboratory ferrets, the standard "animal model" of human influenza.

You soulless assholes.

The criticism led to researchers to impose a voluntary moratorium on their H5N1 research, banning transmission studies using ferrets.

Woohoo!!

However they decided to lift the ban earlier this year, arguing that they have now consulted widely with health organisations and the public over safety concerns.

You soulless assholes... is it still terrorism if you do it to China?
 
2013-05-03 09:48:49 AM  

mamoru: way south: Mixing viruses to create new ones... Why is this a thing?
Why would you ever?!

Aside from the obvious bioweapons answer, there is actually a research answer: to help us better understand gene interactions. Add, "so we can better combat viruses by knowing exactly which genes produce what protein to what effect in combination with the other genes its associated with".

One way of pursuing such research is by mixing and matching gene combinations and seeing what happens. You can't necessarily do this with living cells, because you have to keep enough of the genome intact for the cells to be viable. A virus doesn't really have such limitations, so researchers can adopt a try and see what happens approach. If they can detect any general trends with specific gene combinations, they could potentially produce better anti-virals, better vaccines, etc from such research.

Of course, this may very well go extremely wrong, but there are some good sound reasons for such research.


I agree on theory.  In practice the risk is far too high.  Let's do it "the hard way".
 
2013-05-03 09:48:59 AM  

Wrath of Heaven: This is done by mutating the virus so that it can pass by airborne droplets between laboratory ferrets, the standard "animal model" of human influenza.

You soulless assholes.

The criticism led to researchers to impose a voluntary moratorium on their H5N1 research, banning transmission studies using ferrets.

Woohoo!!

However they decided to lift the ban earlier this year, arguing that they have now consulted widely with health organisations and the public over safety concerns.

You soulless assholes... is it still terrorism if you do it to China?


Its actually pretty logical from a consiracy theory mindset.  The only way you could ever invade and control a nation such as China or the USA is to wipe out 90% of the population first but leave its infrastructure intact.  The only way to do that is with biological weapons.  Hard part is wiping out most of the enemy while leaving enough of your populace alive to move in and set up shop.  Also not getting caught, because worldwide genocides tend to piss off your neighbors.  Wonder how you can make a virus that only kills non-asians.
 
2013-05-03 09:50:24 AM  
Insert disparaging comment about China here, but I'm not comfortable with any government funding or engaging in this sort of thing. Pure research is awesome, but maybe let not play with that sort of fire.

Makes the mantle drill project look rather tame by comparison.
 
2013-05-03 09:57:58 AM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-05-03 09:59:22 AM  

WTF Indeed: Only millions of people? Even if it kills 20 million Chinese, that's .014% of the countries population.


Are you using pro-gun logic?
 
2013-05-03 10:07:22 AM  

Tenga: Ahhhhhh....Shanghai Suprise!


you owe me a new ipad...

If this ever breaks protocol, I am voting we call it that!
 
2013-05-03 10:11:35 AM  
Son of a biatch Chen
 
2013-05-03 10:18:10 AM  

way south: Mixing viruses to create new ones... Why is this a thing?
Why would you ever?!


Because they wanted to know if this was something that would actually happen if the two viruses were to interact in nature.

I actually can't be too hard on the Chinese for this. They have a significant portion of their population that still live side-by-side with farm animals in less than sanitary conditions. Knowing that this can in fact take place is worthwhile for them.
 
2013-05-03 10:30:18 AM  
This thread is WASCIST
 
2013-05-03 10:35:48 AM  
Where's the Chinese Blue Öyster Cult cover band?
 
2013-05-03 10:46:57 AM  

WTF Indeed: Only millions of people? Even if it kills 20 million Chinese, that's .014% of the countries population.


I wanted to post that Stalin quote about millions of deaths just being a statistic, but I think your math is off.

Anyway, I agree with others, it's a matter of when not if. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but if you're a terrorist trying to damage a large group/nation, maybe stories like this spur you to stop worrying about nukes and start working on deadly aerosol canisters.

I wonder what the scariest bio-warfare research going on NOT by governments or "morally correct" researchers? e.g. what's the scariest materials in the hands of outright bad guys?
 
2013-05-03 10:48:24 AM  
Seasons don't feel the leaper.
 
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