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(Opposing Views)   $60,000 would buy a home in some towns, or pay a fine for selling gun-shaped lighters in New York City   (opposingviews.com) divider line 60
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2013-05-03 06:54:04 AM  
How is it illegal to sell a safe novelty item in this country? If they sold the lighter at a gun store, would that have been legal?
 
2013-05-03 06:55:23 AM  
Lighter-shaped guns still OK
www.originalprop.com
 
2013-05-03 07:01:16 AM  
wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?
 
2013-05-03 07:02:40 AM  

KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?


Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.
 
2013-05-03 07:03:14 AM  

doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.


Or try Detroit
 
2013-05-03 07:04:47 AM  

doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.


Major city?  I live in a squalid li'l town in Jersey, where the cheapest home that isn't a ramshackle piece of crap goes for well over $200K.

/I know, leave Jersey
//workin' on it
 
2013-05-03 07:05:22 AM  

You Idiots: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Or try Detroit


But it's cold in the D.
 
2013-05-03 07:09:25 AM  

doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.


Why would you want to do that?
 
2013-05-03 07:12:07 AM  
Good. NYPD don't need no excuse to shoot someone for lighting a cigarette.
/You still can smoke outdoors in NYC?
 
2013-05-03 07:12:22 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?


Tired of being around smart people? Desire to drive 50k miles a year?

/note: cheap rent when you have to drive 3 hours a day ain't really cheap.
 
2013-05-03 07:13:22 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: How is it illegal to sell a safe novelty item in this country? If they sold the lighter at a gun store, would that have been legal?


Dunno, go check out the gun stores in NYC.

/can't have Kinder Eggs, fat American kids will eat the toy
 
2013-05-03 07:14:40 AM  

doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.


My wife likes that house hunters show and we see houses all the time on there that are smaller and crappier than ours, yet sell for over 3 times what we paid.

So no water guns in NYC?  Bass Pro sells lighters that look like hunting rifles, only much much much smaller, are those illegal there too?  I'm curious as to how closely it has to resemble an actual gun for it to be illegal, or is it one of those "zero tolerance" things where if it closely resembles an L shape, it's illegal.
 
2013-05-03 07:15:02 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?


Bc u could buy a really nice house for $60K and still be within 20 minutes of a metro area that's why.

In reality, the truly nice homes here go for about $110K, but are usually in the 3500-4000 sq/ft range, and i prefer about 2500-3000.
 
2013-05-03 07:20:51 AM  
That's about right.
 
2013-05-03 07:21:01 AM  

KellyKellyKelly: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Major city?  I live in a squalid li'l town in Jersey, where the cheapest home that isn't a ramshackle piece of crap goes for well over $200K.

/I know, leave Jersey
//workin' on it


Well, yeah. Jersey's the densest populated state in the union. Of course their crap space goes for more. It ain't the demand, it's the supply.
 
2013-05-03 07:25:27 AM  
Perfect tag, subby.
 
2013-05-03 07:25:42 AM  

KeatingFive: Tired of being around smart people?


You kiss your momma with that self-fellating mouth?
 
2013-05-03 07:28:40 AM  

KellyKellyKelly: You Idiots: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Or try Detroit

But it's cold in the D.


Yes, but I have seen that you can buy houses for $1.00 in Detroit.  Please save a dog too, while you're at it.
 
2013-05-03 07:30:48 AM  
eastvalleynewsnet.com
 
2013-05-03 07:41:28 AM  
They should have just stopped and frisked the shop owner. That would have solved everything. Its a one-stop solution for Bloomie & his little army.

It would also have given the NYPD more time to devote to the seemingly unheard of and baffling idea that the Boston Bombers might have gotten to Times Square (like every other terrorist since the beginning of Times Square has wanted to), had they worked out the kinks of that pesky gas pump/ATM conundrum.

The More You Know
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-03 07:41:32 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?



Less hostile wildlife

www.foxnews.com

Lower costs for public services
 
2013-05-03 07:44:32 AM  

hasty ambush: [eastvalleynewsnet.com image 410x276]


I don't understand this picture, what about that person says "I want more government"?
 
2013-05-03 07:50:05 AM  
Not even sure the intent/point of a fine that large otherwise to drive the business under.

I can understand hitting them that much if they were being belligerent and refusing to comply with the law, but to start out with that is just dickish.  Unless the article is leaving out some details (or a lot of details).  In my experience with petty inspectors (IE, almost ALL code enforcement officers of all types everywhere), they only get dickish if you mouth off to them or in anyway try to contest their authority.
 
2013-05-03 07:51:43 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?

Bc u could buy a really nice house for $60K and still be within 20 minutes of a metro area that's why.

In reality, the truly nice homes here go for about $110K, but are usually in the 3500-4000 sq/ft range, and i prefer about 2500-3000.


Sure, but it's a third-rate symphony
 
2013-05-03 07:53:00 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: hasty ambush: [eastvalleynewsnet.com image 410x276]

I don't understand this picture, what about that person says "I want more government"?


OWS type wanting more government, well at least more government "free stuff".
 
2013-05-03 07:55:14 AM  

hasty ambush: HotWingConspiracy: hasty ambush: [eastvalleynewsnet.com image 410x276]

I don't understand this picture, what about that person says "I want more government"?

OWS type wanting more government, well at least more government "free stuff".


That makes absolutely no sense.
 
2013-05-03 07:57:39 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?


Some of us hate cities. I've lived in SF, Chicago, Denver, and been through NY and Houston. I HATE the crush of people.
 
2013-05-03 08:00:10 AM  
New York City Law Department?

The Police Cops?
 
2013-05-03 08:00:49 AM  
US Camera & Computers sent the gun-shaped lighters back to the manufacturer after getting the citation, but was still told to pay the massive fine. It also claims it wasn't allowed to present evidence to defend itself and is asking the courts to remove the fine.

media.tumblr.com

The due date is on the bottom. This summons cannot be contested in any court of law. Failure to remit
before the due date will result in a charge of criminal negligence, and a warrant will be issued for
your arrest. Have a nice day.

/wrong guy, I know.
 
2013-05-03 08:09:05 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: hasty ambush: HotWingConspiracy: hasty ambush: [eastvalleynewsnet.com image 410x276]

I don't understand this picture, what about that person says "I want more government"?

OWS type wanting more government, well at least more government "free stuff".

That makes absolutely no sense.


It will make sense once you stop being obtuse.
 
2013-05-03 08:09:29 AM  
Today, suspicious bodega cigarette lighter sales, tomorrow a crackdown on suspicious playground activities.

srstern.com

Danger at every turn. Lions, tigers and bears...oh my!
www.skinnymoose.com
 
2013-05-03 08:11:50 AM  

Bravo Two: Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?

Some of us hate cities. I've lived in SF, Chicago, Denver, and been through NY and Houston. I HATE the crush of people.


Thank God I've finally seen someone here who dares say this.  Too many people in too little space = low quality of life, or as I like to think:  people who live in NYC deserve it.
 
2013-05-03 08:14:51 AM  
Remember back in the 80's when movies portrayed New Yorkers as people who don't put up with shiat?
 
2013-05-03 08:15:18 AM  

doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.


Yup.  Move to a small town, and you can get a modest little 1400 sq ft 2 BR, 1 BA house with a yard for $60k or less without a problem.

4 BR, 1 BA 1426 Sq ft, 0.22 acres of land in Springfield, KY for $59,900

3 BR, 2 BA 1728 Sq ft, 1.02 acres of land in Stanford, KY for $58,500

3 BR, 2 BA, 1424 Sq ft, 7.97 acres of land in London, KY for $59.900
 
2013-05-03 08:17:08 AM  

Bslim: HotWingConspiracy: hasty ambush: HotWingConspiracy: hasty ambush: [eastvalleynewsnet.com image 410x276]

I don't understand this picture, what about that person says "I want more government"?

OWS type wanting more government, well at least more government "free stuff".

That makes absolutely no sense.

It will make sense once you stop being obtuse.


Does she want free stuff like a fat person scooter perhaps?
 
2013-05-03 08:18:48 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Remember back in the 80's when movies portrayed New Yorkers as people who don't put up with shiat?


A freedom loving bad ass like you should come and show New Yorkers what it's all about. I'm sure it will go great.
 
2013-05-03 08:19:00 AM  
Nanny York City.
 
2013-05-03 08:22:40 AM  
So wait...the sale of items that are shaped like guns are prohibited because they might be mistaken for real guns?

So instead of giving the cops better weapons identification and training; easier just to ban the item because you're too lazy or too cheap...

God Bless America.  Land of the Free Ignorant; Home of the  Brave Lazy
 
2013-05-03 08:25:27 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Remember back in the 80's when movies portrayed New Yorkers as people who don't put up with shiat?


Yeah, they socially engineered that out of New York, took them about 20 years to do it.

The 21st century New Yorker stereotype is an obedient and docile vassal of Lord Bloomberg, who lives in constant fear of guns and terrorism.
 
2013-05-03 08:25:47 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Remember back in the 80's when movies portrayed New Yorkers as people who don't put up with shiat?

A freedom loving bad ass like you should come and show New Yorkers what it's all about. I'm sure it will go great.


New Yorkers don't take any shiat about their hard-won freedom from freedom.
 
2013-05-03 08:26:04 AM  

hasty ambush: otWingConspiracy: hasty ambush: [eastvalleynewsnet.com image 410x276]

I don't understand this picture, what about that person says "I want more government"?

OWS type wanting more government, well at least more government "free stuff".



Sort of like these patriotic welfare queens?

AHF Says Corporate Welfare Fuels Gilead's Record Q1 Profits (marketwatch.com)
Hefty tax breaks for Westchester developers have foes demanding end to corporate welfare (newsday.com)
S.C. commerce department doles out corporate welfare in secret meeting (watchdog.org)

I could go on but I am sure you have stopped reading and are probably studying up on your fave Alex Jones quotes by now.
static01.mediaite.com
 
2013-05-03 08:30:10 AM  

Cold_Sassy: Bravo Two: Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?

Some of us hate cities. I've lived in SF, Chicago, Denver, and been through NY and Houston. I HATE the crush of people.

Thank God I've finally seen someone here who dares say this.  Too many people in too little space = low quality of life, or as I like to think:  people who live in NYC deserve it.


Yep.  I have a 5 BR on 6 acres for less then an apartment "in town".  Yesterday I mowed the lawn, cut up some branches with my chain saw, and then relaxed out in the backyard with a beer,with nothing but the slight sound of the wind through the trees and the birds chirping. No traffic, no neighbors, just nature.

Does it have it bad times?  Yes, like when I had to drop $1000 to get a new pump for the well (and I am in terror to think of the cost if something happens to the septic tank) and don't get me started on internet access, but damn when it is a perfect day it is about as close to heaven on earth as you can get.
 
2013-05-03 08:32:46 AM  

Nem Wan: HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Remember back in the 80's when movies portrayed New Yorkers as people who don't put up with shiat?

A freedom loving bad ass like you should come and show New Yorkers what it's all about. I'm sure it will go great.

New Yorkers don't take any shiat about their hard-won freedom from freedom.


Yeah the founding fathers must be spinning in their graves over this.

Maybe you can dress up like Braveheart and make an impassioned speech about how they can take your gun shaped lighters, but not your freedom. Do it in the subway and put out a hat, you might even make some cash.
 
2013-05-03 08:35:10 AM  

Burr: Cold_Sassy: Bravo Two: Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?

Some of us hate cities. I've lived in SF, Chicago, Denver, and been through NY and Houston. I HATE the crush of people.

Thank God I've finally seen someone here who dares say this.  Too many people in too little space = low quality of life, or as I like to think:  people who live in NYC deserve it.

Yep.  I have a 5 BR on 6 acres for less then an apartment "in town".  Yesterday I mowed the lawn, cut up some branches with my chain saw, and then relaxed out in the backyard with a beer,with nothing but the slight sound of the wind through the trees and the birds chirping. No traffic, no neighbors, just nature.

Does it have it bad times?  Yes, like when I had to drop $1000 to get a new pump for the well (and I am in terror to think of the cost if something happens to the septic tank) and don't get me started on internet access, but damn when it is a perfect day it is about as close to heaven on earth as you can get.


I like you Burr, you've been on my favoites for awhile.
 
2013-05-03 08:35:50 AM  
"Organ"-shaped lighters still OK though I'm sure.
 
2013-05-03 08:45:27 AM  

Cold_Sassy: I like you Burr


I tell my wife that was her first mistake....

/eh, I am mostly harmless
//but thank you!
 
2013-05-03 08:47:32 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Dead for Tax Reasons: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Why would you want to do that?

Bc u could buy a really nice house for $60K and still be within 20 minutes of a metro area that's why.

In reality, the truly nice homes here go for about $110K, but are usually in the 3500-4000 sq/ft range, and i prefer about 2500-3000.


obviously you are speaking from your parents basement or Kansas.  There are fire damaged wrecks around here selling for over $100k.
 
2013-05-03 09:02:16 AM  

KellyKellyKelly: doglover: KellyKellyKelly: wait wait wait... you can get a house for $60K?

Yeah. Move out of a major city sometime.

Major city?  I live in a squalid li'l town in Jersey, where the cheapest home that isn't a ramshackle piece of crap goes for well over $200K.

/I know, leave Jersey
//workin' on it


Only $200k? You must live in South Jersey.
 
2013-05-03 09:19:21 AM  
You'll burn your eye out kid.
 
2013-05-03 09:23:35 AM  
HotWingConspiracy is either a world class troll, or is still trying to complete second grade.
 
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