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(NJ.com)   NJ Port Authority police officer has saved 5 people from committing suicide off the George Washington Bridge. This year   (nj.com) divider line 42
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2013-05-03 06:10:44 AM
Well, if you had to live around all the Guidos in New Jersey, you'd be suicidal too.
 
2013-05-03 07:06:09 AM
Why is he getting in the way of people's self deTermination?
 
2013-05-03 07:10:56 AM
Right, but how much weed was confiscated from Farkers by this farkin pig, maaaan?

/beat up my gramma and killed my dog too, maaan
//farkin pig
 
2013-05-03 07:12:34 AM
FTFA: The officer's actions are described as "an heroic feat"

*snicker*
 
2013-05-03 07:20:17 AM

LDM90: FTFA: The officer's actions are described as "an heroic feat"

*snicker*


Lmao! Didn't catch that. Nicely done by both the cop and the writer.
 
2013-05-03 07:21:01 AM
Will the cop be back in three weeks when the person tries to jump again?
 
2013-05-03 07:33:41 AM
if I were so suicidal that I wanted to jump off a bridge I'd just kill myself and get it over with....
 
2013-05-03 07:43:16 AM
25.media.tumblr.com

Mr. Sansweet didn't asked to be saved. Mr. Sansweet didn't want to be saved. And the injuries received from Mr.Incredible's "actions," so-called, causes him daily pain.

//hot
 
2013-05-03 07:47:52 AM

skinink: Will the cop be back in three weeks when the person tries to jump again?


Actually, the vast majority, something like 94% of people who attempt suicide but are interrupted or fail, do not attempt again.  It is, however, a very popular misconception.
 
2013-05-03 07:52:18 AM
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If you get this I'm impressed.
 
2013-05-03 08:08:01 AM
Frank Costanzas attorney?
 
2013-05-03 08:10:14 AM
I'm rather torn about this. If someone's life is so messed up that they want to end it by jumping off the GW bridge, why stop them? On the other hand, it may help them if it shows that someone does care.
 
2013-05-03 08:11:45 AM
I suggest a net instead.
 
2013-05-03 08:19:42 AM

Onagarf: I'm rather torn about this. If someone's life is so messed up that they want to end it by jumping off the GW bridge, why stop them? On the other hand, it may help them if it shows that someone does care.


It's been found that suicide is a very situational thing. Many people who attempt it unsuccessfully don't attempt it again shortly after. If someone tried to OD on pills but get their stomach pumped, you usually don't see them flinging themselves off of a building the next day.

Suicidal states are rare and it can besurprisingly difficult to kill ones self. Its one of the reasons that suicides are more common in homes that have guns. People may be just aslikely to be suicidal in homes without guns as in ones with guns, but guns do make the whole thing easier.
 
2013-05-03 08:20:13 AM
Still out of work, he resorted to armed robbery to make ends meet.

Thanks.
 
2013-05-03 08:21:18 AM
We are very good at forcing people who want to die to live in this country. We then abandon all responsibility for them, until the next suicide attempt.

If someone wants to go, that's their right. You can't be pro-choice or libertarian and consistently support arresting people who want to end their lives. People should have access to help, but in the end, it's their decision. It's wrong to force someone to continue living in abject pain and/or psychological torment and then walk away patting yourself on the back. If you prevent a suicide, you now are obligated to be that persons best friend.
 
2013-05-03 08:21:40 AM
Ah bridge jumpers.  We get them here, though certainly not as frequently.  The last one, if I recall, was a young man who was on his way back from his friend's funeral.  Stopped the car on the bridge, jumped off and well, he missed the water (might have been his intention) and landed on the road nearby.  Mission accomplished, I suppose.  Always wonder what drives people to such things.
 
2013-05-03 08:24:42 AM
25.media.tumblr.com

picture of the officer?
 
2013-05-03 08:31:45 AM

Onagarf: I'm rather torn about this. If someone's life is so messed up that they want to end it by jumping off the GW bridge, why stop them? On the other hand, it may help them if it shows that someone does care.


If it's depression there's help for that.   Not a cure but there is help.
The other side of the coin is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dax_Cowart
who should have been allowed to expire.

nekom: Ah bridge jumpers.  We get them here, though certainly not as frequently.  The last one, if I recall, was a young man who was on his way back from his friend's funeral.  Stopped the car on the bridge, jumped off and well, he missed the water (might have been his intention) and landed on the road nearby.  Mission accomplished, I suppose.  Always wonder what drives people to such things.


This is what some of the Gun Control folks are speaking about.  It seems that there is a "window of despair" (my term) that if the person can get through that time period the thought of self-preservation returns and suicidal thoughts fade away.  Problem being the easy availability of a weapon during that time.

Authorities have found that if prevented bridge jumpers do not (usually) make another attempt - only the seriously determined try again.
 
2013-05-03 08:37:32 AM

Thisbymaster


I suggest a net instead.


Can't. She died a few weeks ago.
 
2013-05-03 08:45:47 AM
This has nothing to do with the economy.  Move along, citizen.
 
2013-05-03 08:48:47 AM
Marcintosh:
This is what some of the Gun Control folks are speaking about.  It seems that there is a "window of despair" (my term) that if the person can get through that time period the thought of self-preservation returns and suicidal thoughts fade away.  Problem being the easy availability of a weapon during that time.

Authorities have found that if prevented bridge jumpers do not (usually) make another attempt - only the seriously determined try again.


Oh there is no doubt that having a gun around makes suicide in the heat of the moment a lot easier.  For men, at least, statistics show that women seem to prefer to overdose on pills.  I recall a documentary about a handful of golden gate jumpers that survived, and every single one of them said as soon as they jumped, their thoughts were along the lines of "My god, what have I done?  I don't want to die!"  I suppose those were the last thoughts for many, but those that survived seemed to acknowledge their mistake, and cherish how lucky they were to be alive.

So... install nets?  Might help.
 
2013-05-03 09:03:30 AM
nekom: Marcintosh:
This is what some of the Gun Control folks are speaking about.  It seems that there is a "window of despair" (my term) that if the person can get through that time period the thought of self-preservation returns and suicidal thoughts fade away.  Problem being the easy availability of a weapon during that time.
Authorities have found that if prevented bridge jumpers do not (usually) make another attempt - only the seriously determined try again.
Oh there is no doubt that having a gun around makes suicide in the heat of the moment a lot easier.  For men, at least, statistics show that women seem to prefer to overdose on pills.  I recall a documentary about a handful of golden gate jumpers that survived, and every single one of them said as soon as they jumped, their thoughts were along the lines of "My god, what have I done?  I don't want to die!"  I suppose those were the last thoughts for many, but those that survived seemed to acknowledge their mistake, and cherish how lucky they were to be alive.


So... install nets?  Might help.

Do a quick cost / benefit analysis - Police and River Patrol already on payroll vs Bidding, Environmental Impact Statement, Installation and Maintenance costs.

That cops got a job as a hero as long as he wants it.


Sometimes I really don't care for that coldly analytical side of me that pops up now and again.  I'm sure we all have it, I'd rather not though.
 
2013-05-03 09:05:58 AM
The guy was unemployed for three years? He should have moved to India, Bangladesh, China, Philippines or other countries we're outsourcing to.
 
2013-05-03 09:07:56 AM
In case anyone was wondering what cops in New Jersey look like, that's what cops in New Jersey look like.

Good for this guy, hopefully the people he's stopped can turn their lives around for the better.
 
2013-05-03 09:19:56 AM

Thisbymaster: I suggest a net instead.


Or a few cinder-blocks.
 
2013-05-03 09:42:26 AM

hardinparamedic: Well, if you had to live around all the Guidos in New Jersey, you'd be suicidal too.


0/10, hillbilly dumbass.
 
2013-05-03 10:43:09 AM

unfarkingbelievable: hardinparamedic: Well, if you had to live around all the Guidos in New Jersey, you'd be suicidal too.

0/10, hillbilly dumbass.


Yeah, everybody knows those spikey-haired Oompa-Loopmas originated on Staten Island.
 
2013-05-03 11:25:13 AM

hardinparamedic: Well, if you had to live around all the Guidos in New Jersey, you'd be suicidal too.


Sigh.

True.
 
2013-05-03 11:26:05 AM

Tio_Holtzmann: LDM90: FTFA: The officer's actions are described as "an heroic feat"

*snicker*

Lmao! Didn't catch that. Nicely done by both the cop and the writer.


dafuq?
 
2013-05-03 11:29:37 AM

give me doughnuts: unfarkingbelievable: hardinparamedic: Well, if you had to live around all the Guidos in New Jersey, you'd be suicidal too.

0/10, hillbilly dumbass.

Yeah, everybody knows those spikey-haired Oompa-Loopmas originated on Staten Island.


Also true!
 
2013-05-03 01:27:32 PM

Tommy Moo: We are very good at forcing people who want to die to live in this country. We then abandon all responsibility for them, until the next suicide attempt.

If someone wants to go, that's their right. You can't be pro-choice or libertarian and consistently support arresting people who want to end their lives. People should have access to help, but in the end, it's their decision. It's wrong to force someone to continue living in abject pain and/or psychological torment and then walk away patting yourself on the back. If you prevent a suicide, you now are obligated to be that persons best friend.


You could if you argue that suicide prevention supports the public good. But that would be a situational argument that depends on the current population. And since overcrowding is a problem in more places than undercrowding is...
 
2013-05-03 02:04:31 PM
Go big or go home.
 
2013-05-03 02:05:10 PM
^

well there was supposed to be a picture of the golden gate bridge. Oh well..
 
2013-05-03 02:33:07 PM

Thisbymaster: I suggest a net instead.


But then everyone would be doing it.
 
2013-05-03 03:52:15 PM
What is wrong with this country and its priorities?  This is a big problem and its barely even discussed.  I'm sure we all agree that it's high time these people in desperate need had widely available access to low cost, perhaps even free, conveniently located suicide parlors.
 
2013-05-03 04:00:46 PM
What happens to the would-be jumpers who get caught?  That's a jailin'?  I'm sure that that will make you forget joblessness or the loss of a loved one.
 
2013-05-03 07:18:01 PM
I'LL GOUGE YOUR RIGHT EYE OUT WITH MY THUMB YOU LITTLE FREAK, I SHIATE YOU NOT.
 
2013-05-03 09:42:29 PM
So what was an officer of the NJ Port Authority doing on the GW when it belongs to PANYNJ?

What is the NJ Port Authority?

/worked at PANYNJ for a few years and never heard of it
 
2013-05-04 01:42:18 AM

trappedspirit: Tio_Holtzmann: LDM90: FTFA: The officer's actions are described as "an heroic feat"

*snicker*

Lmao! Didn't catch that. Nicely done by both the cop and the writer.

dafuq?


I don't get it. Is it a local thing?
 
2013-05-04 02:30:41 AM

maachubo: Tommy Moo: We are very good at forcing people who want to die to live in this country. We then abandon all responsibility for them, until the next suicide attempt.

If someone wants to go, that's their right. You can't be pro-choice or libertarian and consistently support arresting people who want to end their lives. People should have access to help, but in the end, it's their decision. It's wrong to force someone to continue living in abject pain and/or psychological torment and then walk away patting yourself on the back. If you prevent a suicide, you now are obligated to be that persons best friend.

You could if you argue that suicide prevention supports the public good. But that would be a situational argument that depends on the current population. And since overcrowding is a problem in more places than undercrowding is...


Suicide is a huge problem in terms of numbers. In Australia more people die by suicide than in road accidents.

In the US over 105 people commit suicide per day. That's one every 13.7 minutes. It is estimated that there are at least 25 attempted suicides for each successful one. That is an awful lot of people in extreme pain.

So you stop a jumper and send him for a psychiatric evaluation, but most psychiatric facilities are woefully underfunded and short of places for people who need them. For most people life post-suicide attempt is not going to be any better than it was pre-suicide attempt. For some, like example above of the guy just after a funeral, the situation may only be temporary in nature, but Mr Three-years-without-a-job is no closer to employment now than he was before. It would actually make more sense if he did attempt suicide again.

Denying people access to a suicide method without giving them reason to feel their life is worth living, seems a little like those pro-lifers whose only concern is that a fetus not be aborted, and don't care at all what happens to it once it is born.
 
2013-05-04 09:26:56 AM
Shana, they bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash
 
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