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(Some Guy's Wife)   When did Peanuts turn from a comic strip about cute kids doing cute things to a story about insecurities and pathos? February 1, 1954   (schulzmuseum.org) divider line 47
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2013-05-03 06:28:08 AM
4 votes:

Rik01: Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.


66.147.242.195

Weapon Brown: The best gritty reboot I have ever read.
2013-05-03 05:10:48 AM
4 votes:

Rik01: Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.




You have to understand one thing: without Schultz Peanuts, there would be no Calvin and Hobbes. Before him, comics were filled with vaudeville humor, adventure strips or soap opera comics. He made the comics about the characters, and he drew the pain from his own life. You would have no Calvin, unless Snoopy came before him.

And he was highly experimental in his form- he was trying to simplify the strip, until he old tell a rich full story in one panel.
2013-05-03 12:32:08 AM
4 votes:
Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.
2013-05-03 04:00:40 PM
3 votes:
The one time I got to chat with Sparky was revealing... Lucy was created during his first marriage; Lucy was the comic strip version of his wife. Peppermint Patty was the version of his second wife Jean. After he moved to Santa Rosa, he built the Redwood Empire Arena so he could play hockey. The upstairs offices have big windows where you can see the ice rink below. For a short while, he had an office with a drawing board and the tools he needed to create Peanuts near one of the windows. After he would have breakfast at his table in the Warm Puppy downstairs he would go to work. He said the work he did there was the most difficult time he had as a cartoonist. He would see the rink and want to grab a hockey stick and skates and be on the ice. So he built the office a block or so away so he couldn't see the ice and if he chose to skate he would need to walk to the rink.

Here's a phone photo of my wife and me:
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2013-05-03 12:48:57 PM
3 votes:
ristst:My daughter was in tears after this, and she demanded we stop watching it.  She could not understand why the kids didn't BLAME LUCY, since she was the one who was responsible for the lost game.  And honestly, I had no explanation....since I always had the same question when I was a kid.

Well...yeah. The whole point of Peanuts, it has always seemed to me, is to present kid life (and, through that, adult life) as it is really experienced by many. This cartoon is by the losers for the losers, but in a positive way: it's central message is if you look like one of these kids, stop it. Each of them has positive aspects, and those positive aspects are not denigrated, but each character is terribly flawed in his or her own way. Charlie Brown is certainly a decent fellow, but the girls disdain him and he is roundly abused on all side --- and both of these things are rooted in the same character flaw. He takes these repeated punishments and keeps on doing the same things in response; it's not his niceness that's the problem, it's the fact that he's a schlub and invites further abuse by sponging it up (bullies are often drawn to those they can either drive to lash out in response (rather than fighting back) or who are content to be punching bags). Linus tends toward wisdom, but he's not of this world, and misses out on what's around him (Sally, etc.). Lucy would be a great friend to have (she *will* back you up), if she could get over her extreme defensiveness (which leads to bullying) and anger issues. Schroeder has great skills and a strong work ethic, but he is fixated on one person, and one instrument, and one activity, and that is what simultaneously draws Lucy to him and keeps him from participating. Etc., etc. These kids are all messes, and they look like real kids, exaggerated a wee bit. Are they mean? Yes. Are they awful? Yes. But they are useful for instruction, both in what to expect in the world and as a picture of how not to live in a way that is good for others, and which climbs out of the narcissistic, closed worlds these kids live in (and thus encourages kids to grow into strong people who neither rely on others for approval nor need to drag others down for a moment's respite from the awfulness of their own lives).
2013-05-03 12:20:25 PM
2 votes:
Peanuts was okay, but it's no
i42.tinypic.com
2013-05-03 09:41:28 AM
2 votes:
www.whatisdeepfried.com

the new story arc is bananas. Love it.
2013-05-03 09:15:39 AM
2 votes:
I met Charles Schulz in 1994 at his office/home in Santa Rosa. He was quite approachable. His number was in the phone book! We just called and he invited us over. In real life he was actually quite depressed. He lamented the demise of the quality of cartoons and strips. He brought out his Terry and the Pirates book in his huge library and lamented that strips just don't have that quality any more.
I mentioned how many cartoonists imitate his simple lines and how revolutionary his art style was. I said "you made it look so easy!"

Another quirky fact about "sparky" was that he was more than likely autistic. He was brilliant intellectually but socially awkward and shy. I can relate having an autistic cousin who is a PHd in electronic engineering but steps back when people approach him. Exact same brilliance but very very exacting.

PS he never wanted ANY reboots of the strip. He never allowed any assistants to touch it and he wanted the strip to die with him.
2013-05-03 08:52:28 AM
2 votes:
1954?
Whippersnappers.
I remember when Blondie was a flapper and Dagwood stood to inherit a fortune.
2013-05-03 07:38:24 AM
2 votes:
imageshack.us
July 29, 1956.

/My favourite Peanuts strip.
//Is Charlie looking at us in the last panel?  Is Linus satisfied with his solution?
///Pretty sure a sexual politics/gender issues class could spend a month on this.
2013-05-03 06:59:51 AM
2 votes:
I disagree. Charlie Brown was hated from day one...

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01-05-50

/Never forget
2013-05-03 05:50:23 AM
2 votes:

log_jammin: Darth_Lukecash: In Trek terms, Charlie would be Kirk, Linus would be Spock. And Schroeder would be McCoy.

every time I start to get cranky or annoyed with this place, someone posts something that reminds me why I'm still here.




It helps if you stay out of the political tabs....
2013-05-03 05:38:19 AM
2 votes:

log_jammin: Ghastly: Wasn't Linus Charlie Brown's closest friend?

Yes




Actually, Schroeder is his oldest friend. Linus would be his best friend. In Trek terms, Charlie would be Kirk, Linus would be Spock. And Schroeder would be McCoy.

What people don't remember is that Shermy, Patty, Violet, and Snoopy where the original cast of first/second graders. None of them liked Charlie. Snoopy wasn't even specifically Charlie Browns dog. Schroeder was introduced as a toddler who was gifted at playing a toy piano. Lucy was introduced as a kindergardener. In a few months she was Charlie Brows age and Linus was introduced as a baby.Soon enough, Linus was a year younger.

Eventually Schroeder became a love interest for Lucy. In the strangest twist, both Marcie and Peppermint Patty started competing over Charlie Brown. Who was oblivious to the whole thing.
2013-05-02 09:08:22 PM
2 votes:
Yeah, the problem came sometime in the late 70s when it turned back.

Those gloomy little kids with their existential angst and their casual cruelty to one another were awesome.
2013-05-04 04:11:58 AM
1 votes:

Astorix: I met Charles Schulz in 1994 at his office/home in Santa Rosa. He was quite approachable. His number was in the phone book! We just called and he invited us over. In real life he was actually quite depressed. He lamented the demise of the quality of cartoons and strips. He brought out his Terry and the Pirates book in his huge library and lamented that strips just don't have that quality any more.
I mentioned how many cartoonists imitate his simple lines and how revolutionary his art style was. I said "you made it look so easy!"

Another quirky fact about "sparky" was that he was more than likely autistic. He was brilliant intellectually but socially awkward and shy. I can relate having an autistic cousin who is a PHd in electronic engineering but steps back when people approach him. Exact same brilliance but very very exacting.

PS he never wanted ANY reboots of the strip. He never allowed any assistants to touch it and he wanted the strip to die with him.


Ah, but comic book artist Al Plastino was commissioned to do a run of Peanuts strips, either during one of Schulz's heath scares, or just because the Syndicates wanted him to know he could be replaced.

Now, the strips were never published, but there is a run of Non-Schulz Peanuts strips out there in some vault.

...and I hope Fantagraphics reprints them at some point in their Complete Peanuts books.
2013-05-03 07:53:00 PM
1 votes:
I can understand why the kids disliked Charlie Brown. Always writing on the walls, always goofing in the halls, always throwing spit balls...
2013-05-03 04:54:42 PM
1 votes:
For the thread as a whole:

firedaily.com
2013-05-03 04:32:57 PM
1 votes:

ristst: Rik01: Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.

I read the strips and books as a child, and I've tried to introduce my daughter to it.  She is 8yrs old.

SHE ABSOLUTELY HATES IT.

She hates how horrible all the other kids are to Charlie Brown.  We watched the one show where CB needs to kick a field goal to win the big game.  Of course, Lucy snatches the ball away and CB doesn't make the kick.  And everyone else screams at CB "you blockhead, you lost the game for us!"

My daughter was in tears after this, and she demanded we stop watching it.  She could not understand why the kids didn't BLAME LUCY, since she was the one who was responsible for the lost game.  And honestly, I had no explanation....since I always had the same question when I was a kid.


A couple of years ago, I watched the DVD of A Boy Named Charlie Brown. It was actually the theatrical edition which included a couple of scenes that had been cut out of the TV broadcast and had never been shown until the DVD version restored them. One of the cut scenes occurred right after Lucy shows Charlie Brown the slideshow that showcased his faults in painful detail. She then replays one of his attempts to kick the ball in slow motion, saying (and I'm paraphrasing from memory), "you keep trying to kick the ball, because you believe that one day you will succeed, which of course will never happen, because you are doomed for failure".

It's probably the most rage-inducing scene in any of the movies or specials. And it makes the ending even more heart breaking, where Charlie comes back home after having lost the spelling bee, sees Lucy with the ball, thinks he can sneak up om her, but of course she yanks the ball away again. Not even at his lowest can she allow him to enjoy one tiny victory.
2013-05-03 02:27:29 PM
1 votes:

feanorn: ristst:My daughter was in tears after this, and she demanded we stop watching it.  She could not understand why the kids didn't BLAME LUCY, since she was the one who was responsible for the lost game.  And honestly, I had no explanation....since I always had the same question when I was a kid.

Well...yeah. The whole point of Peanuts, it has always seemed to me, is to present kid life (and, through that, adult life) as it is really experienced by many. This cartoon is by the losers for the losers, but in a positive way: it's central message is if you look like one of these kids, stop it. Each of them has positive aspects, and those positive aspects are not denigrated, but each character is terribly flawed in his or her own way. Charlie Brown is certainly a decent fellow, but the girls disdain him and he is roundly abused on all side --- and both of these things are rooted in the same character flaw. He takes these repeated punishments and keeps on doing the same things in response; it's not his niceness that's the problem, it's the fact that he's a schlub and invites further abuse by sponging it up (bullies are often drawn to those they can either drive to lash out in response (rather than fighting back) or who are content to be punching bags). Linus tends toward wisdom, but he's not of this world, and misses out on what's around him (Sally, etc.). Lucy would be a great friend to have (she *will* back you up), if she could get over her extreme defensiveness (which leads to bullying) and anger issues. Schroeder has great skills and a strong work ethic, but he is fixated on one person, and one instrument, and one activity, and that is what simultaneously draws Lucy to him and keeps him from participating. Etc., etc. These kids are all messes, and they look like real kids, exaggerated a wee bit. Are they mean? Yes. Are they awful? Yes. But they are useful for instruction, both in what to expect in the world and as a picture of how not to live in a way that is good for ...


You make a good argument, and for the most part it appears to be a sound point.  And I won't say she immediately hated it, she's watched a good deal of stuff with behavior that could be termed unsavory....Hey Arnold & Rugrats come to mind.  Over time she began to have problems with some of the inequities in Peanuts.  But she really got upset at the football game, and I can't say I blame her for that.  It's one thing to be hateful.  But it's another thing entirely to blame CB - in an extremely viscious manner - for something that was absolutely not his fault.  What's more, it wasn't as if it were hearsay....*all* the other kids saw what happened, and NOT ONE OF THEM stood up and said "wait, that's *Lucy's* fault, not CB's!"  Not even Linus, who repeatedly quotes the Bible.  I remember seeing the same thing as a kid, and I wanted CB to jump up and beat the living shiat out of Lucy, girl or no.

But my daughter couldn't understand this scene, and I can't explain it.  It's great that we can wax philosophically about it as adults, but I have trouble explaining it to her since CB doesn't really do anything to deserve all the hatred.  I suppose it would make a little more sense if he was an ass, but the truth is he's just kind of bland and unexciting.  Dealing with continual hated merely for being dull is difficult to explain.

And she surprised me as (over time) she began to voice her dislike of the cartoons.  When I asked why, she answered that she didn't really like how all the other kids were so hateful to CB when he didn't do anything to them and was actually nice to them.

So if anyone wants to flame me, feel free.  But I'm proud that my daughter cares about others' feelings at such a young age.  Compassion seems to be a commodity in short supply in this country - not to mention the world.  We could use a lot more of it.

/I now formally step down from my soapbox and toss it in the trash
2013-05-03 01:18:11 PM
1 votes:
www.mdusd.k12.ca.us

Emo before it was cool.
2013-05-03 11:48:54 AM
1 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: I think people can relate to failure and feeling like the world is overwhelming. And yet despite his failings, Charlie Brown keeps trying to kick that football...


oi40.tinypic.com
(Oct 11, 1970)
2013-05-03 11:05:13 AM
1 votes:

Tyrone Slothrop: BreezyWheeze: Rik01: I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

I think that's the most casually condescending comment I've ever read on Fark, and I've written a lot of condescending shiat over the years.

Mmmmm, no. Pogo was better than nearly any comic strip out there. Little Nemo, Far Side, and Calvin and Hobs are the only ones that could compete.


If puns are the highest form of comedy, then Pogo is the greatest strip. For its time Pogo was unchallenged, but we've since realized that puns suck as humor, so Pogo is severely dated (for its comedy, not its commentary).
2013-05-03 11:02:46 AM
1 votes:

MBooda: ristst: I read the strips and books as a child, and I've tried to introduce my daughter to it.  She is 8yrs old.

SHE ABSOLUTELY HATES IT.

She hates how horrible all the other kids are to Charlie Brown.  We watched the one show where CB needs to kick a field goal to win the big game.  Of course, Lucy snatches the ball away and CB doesn't make the kick.  And everyone else screams at CB "you blockhead, you lost the game for us!"

My daughter was in tears after this, and she demanded we stop watching it.  She could not understand why the kids didn't BLAME LUCY, since she was the one who was responsible for the lost game.  And honestly, I had no explanation....since I always had the same question when I was a kid.

Your daughter is a developing product of the Nanny State, where everyone must be nice to each other, bullying is unthinkable and worse than murder, and students are being prepared for a world of butterflies, baby bunnies and unicorns riding rainbows.

The attitudes displayed in Peanuts closely resembled what I and most other people born before 1970 experienced in school, except that the students in our schools weren't quite as erudite.

Slap her around a little bit, move to England and enroll her in a Public School.  Or enlist her in Marine Boot Camp.  She'll straighten up in no time.


Did you inhale a lot of asbestos during those years?  I was born in 1960, so I'm well acquainted with the aforementioned behaviors.

I've taught my daughter to pay no attention to people such as yourself.  She lives by the Golden Rule.  And she understands that the world is often neither fair nor is it nice.  What's important is how she lives her life and how she treats others.....the way she would like to be treated herself.

She'd even treat a douche such as you with respect.
2013-05-03 10:48:43 AM
1 votes:
Somewhere around here I've got a book titled The Gospel According to Peanuts. I read the strip for years without realizing there was a good degree of Biblical references.
2013-05-03 10:23:55 AM
1 votes:

ristst: I read the strips and books as a child, and I've tried to introduce my daughter to it.  She is 8yrs old.

SHE ABSOLUTELY HATES IT.

She hates how horrible all the other kids are to Charlie Brown.  We watched the one show where CB needs to kick a field goal to win the big game.  Of course, Lucy snatches the ball away and CB doesn't make the kick.  And everyone else screams at CB "you blockhead, you lost the game for us!"

My daughter was in tears after this, and she demanded we stop watching it.  She could not understand why the kids didn't BLAME LUCY, since she was the one who was responsible for the lost game.  And honestly, I had no explanation....since I always had the same question when I was a kid.


Your daughter is a developing product of the Nanny State, where everyone must be nice to each other, bullying is unthinkable and worse than murder, and students are being prepared for a world of butterflies, baby bunnies and unicorns riding rainbows.

The attitudes displayed in Peanuts closely resembled what I and most other people born before 1970 experienced in school, except that the students in our schools weren't quite as erudite.

Slap her around a little bit, move to England and enroll her in a Public School.  Or enlist her in Marine Boot Camp.  She'll straighten up in no time.
2013-05-03 10:14:47 AM
1 votes:

Rik01: Never liked the 'Peanuts' comic strip.
Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.

Lucy I wanted desperately for Charlie Brown to smack in the mouth.
The moral of the strip seemed to be that 'nice guys finish last'. None of his friends ever learned how reliable and loyal Charlie was.

By the time I was in my 20's, I no longer watched even the specials.

I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.


I read the strips and books as a child, and I've tried to introduce my daughter to it.  She is 8yrs old.

SHE ABSOLUTELY HATES IT.

She hates how horrible all the other kids are to Charlie Brown.  We watched the one show where CB needs to kick a field goal to win the big game.  Of course, Lucy snatches the ball away and CB doesn't make the kick.  And everyone else screams at CB "you blockhead, you lost the game for us!"

My daughter was in tears after this, and she demanded we stop watching it.  She could not understand why the kids didn't BLAME LUCY, since she was the one who was responsible for the lost game.  And honestly, I had no explanation....since I always had the same question when I was a kid.
2013-05-03 10:00:23 AM
1 votes:
www.theworkshopfc.net

I enjoyed Charlie better after he returned from Japan
2013-05-03 09:00:14 AM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: 1954?
Whippersnappers.
I remember when Blondie was a flapper and Dagwood stood to inherit a fortune.


Blondie was never more than According To Jim in a different medium. Peanuts always had an existential angst to it.
2013-05-03 08:47:01 AM
1 votes:
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
White people problems.
2013-05-03 08:44:25 AM
1 votes:
This might be my single favorite Peanuts comic.

1.bp.blogspot.com
2013-05-03 08:40:21 AM
1 votes:
But where's the one where he called the English teacher "Daddy-o?"
2013-05-03 08:38:35 AM
1 votes:

Rik01: I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)


I think that's the most casually condescending comment I've ever read on Fark, and I've written a lot of condescending shiat over the years.
2013-05-03 07:47:29 AM
1 votes:

bill4935: [imageshack.us image 600x126]
July 29, 1956.

/My favourite Peanuts strip.
//Is Charlie looking at us in the last panel?  Is Linus satisfied with his solution?
///Pretty sure a sexual politics/gender issues class could spend a month on this.


Holy crap, that's awesome!
Somewhere between domestic violence charges and romantic comedies is that gem.
2013-05-03 06:51:57 AM
1 votes:
Charlie Brown without Snoopy. The original John Arbuckle without Garfield.
bbsimg.ngfiles.com
2013-05-03 06:11:15 AM
1 votes:
I did't realize Schultz wrote about internal server errors in 1954. He was really ahead of his time.
2013-05-03 05:53:45 AM
1 votes:
I disagree with the author of TFA though - I think the quoted strip from a few days prior (where Charlie is laughing at the end) is in a way equally filled with youthful despair.
2013-05-03 05:47:52 AM
1 votes:

thamike: BarkingUnicorn: A lot of people secretly view themselves as noble martyrs. That's why they sympathize with Charlie.

Yeah, they're passive aggressive dicks.  That's why I sympathize with Peppermint Patty.


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Peppermint Patty was based on his second Wife-who was a big tomboy when she was a girl. She had things that made her feel like an outcast as well.

And I don't think Charlie Brown as a Nobel Martyr. I think people can relate to failure and feeling like the world is overwhelming. And yet despite his failings, Charlie Brown keeps trying to kick that football...
2013-05-03 05:46:35 AM
1 votes:

Rik01: I much preferred Calvin and Hobbs or Hagar the Horrible.


Helga: I'm tired of you going away from months on your business trips.  Why can you work closer to home.
Hagar: ... ... ... They'd throw me in jail if I worked closer to home.
2013-05-03 05:40:35 AM
1 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: In Trek terms, Charlie would be Kirk, Linus would be Spock. And Schroeder would be McCoy.


every time I start to get cranky or annoyed with this place, someone posts something that reminds me why I'm still here.
2013-05-03 05:14:06 AM
1 votes:

Ghastly: Wasn't Linus Charlie Brown's closest friend?


Yes
2013-05-03 05:12:07 AM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Rik01: Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)

A lot of people secretly view themselves as noble martyrs.  That's why they sympathize with Charlie.


Wasn't Linus Charlie Brown's closest friend?
2013-05-03 04:03:19 AM
1 votes:

Rik01: Even as a kid, it didn't take me long to notice that Charlie Brown, the level headed, thoughtful and kind kid was made the butt of all of the nasty jokes, humiliated, taunted and ridiculed.

Even his dog turned against him in later years, mocking him periodically.

His closest friend, Schroder, basically stood by as Charlie was humiliated again and again and rarely, if ever, rose to his defense.

I've never understood the over all public fondness for the strip. I thought 'Pogo' was better. (Look it up.)


A lot of people secretly view themselves as noble martyrs.  That's why they sympathize with Charlie.
2013-05-03 02:22:48 AM
1 votes:

Sid_6.7: Perry Bible Fellowship


best comic EVAR!
2013-05-03 01:25:37 AM
1 votes:

Rik01: Every holiday special they had Charlie Brown being blamed for a myriad of things and then, at the end, after being chastised and ridiculed, he pulls it all together and not one of his friends even thanks him.


Note:

Just like Jesus in his lifetime. NTTAWWT.

Gig103: Even some XKCD strips get too preachy for me; I stick to SMBC and Dilbert for the comfort of a quick laugh.


Concerning XKCD, do you have an example of "too preachy". I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just not sure I've 'experienced' it myself, so please, really, share if you can.

Also, are you familiar with Perry Bible Fellowship (not what it sounds like, and possibly NSFW)? Might be one of the most balanced comics ever, if you don't mind all the gallows humor.

Also, Red Meat.
2013-05-03 01:19:21 AM
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doglover: Ghastly: Don't forget the lesbian sex.

Snoopy and Woodstock are boys.


straightlesbian.com

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Honestly, I think it's reading too much into the characters.
2013-05-03 12:05:12 AM
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if Charlie Brown existed in the real world he would definitely shoot up a school.
2013-05-02 08:25:29 PM
1 votes:
I liked that.
 
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